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00:08:53 <Wolf01> 'night 00:08:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host210-236-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:10:14 <kamnet> Wow, I slept my whole day away 00:14:49 <supermop> nice 00:16:24 <kamnet> yeah, they changed my work schedule so I now have Sun-Tues off. :-( 00:17:46 *** Fixer [~Fixer@91.202.128.79] has left #openttd [] 00:18:17 *** Fixer [~Fixer@91.202.128.79] has joined #openttd 00:19:20 <supermop> ouch 00:19:38 <supermop> wierd schedules are always worse than you think 00:20:56 <kamnet> It's only bad because I'm back to working Saturdays which interferes with my son's Boy Scout activities. 00:21:47 <supermop> yeah 00:23:24 *** Fixer [~Fixer@91.202.128.79] has left #openttd [] 00:23:31 *** Pulec|XNB [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 00:27:46 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:31 <supermop> I have to work every saturday, 00:32:43 <supermop> it has made it so difficult to see people 00:36:46 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:43:29 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08:46 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.108.23] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 01:08:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75B57.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:09 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75B57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:09:47 *** supermop [~daniel_er@82-69-99-113.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 01:17:23 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC22D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 01:17:24 *** lugo [lugo@195.3.138.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:27:41 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:41 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-76-217.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 01:40:26 *** kamnet [4cb171cd@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 01:47:12 <SmatZ> wow I can hear the river here 01:47:16 <SmatZ> and it's pretty far :) 01:50:07 <SmatZ> hmm no, it wasn't the river 01:50:12 <__ln__> or at least was pretty far 01:51:10 <SmatZ> :) 02:07:35 <Eddi|zuHause> if the river comes over here, we really are in trouble. :p 02:10:49 <Eddi|zuHause> (i mean, i'm like 5km distance to the river, and like 30m higher :p 02:15:28 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... it's more like 50m 02:32:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-3-238.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:36:40 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:59:01 <Chris_Booth> I super drunk, this is frist time in 4 months!!!!!!!!! 02:59:15 <Chris_Booth> wow I have been missing my good friend 03:02:36 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 03:03:49 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-163-198.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 03:09:49 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-243-193.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:13:59 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 03:19:26 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:19:26 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 03:30:23 *** lugo [lugo@195.3.138.104] has joined #openttd 03:46:32 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: zodttd] 03:52:46 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:00:27 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:88d1:7a5:727d:699c] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:22:14 *** Strid_ [~Strid@c-f083e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 05:26:01 *** Strid [~Strid@c-f083e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75B57.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7791D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:02:36 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:20:07 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:39:23 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 06:41:11 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 06:42:36 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 06:48:26 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:49:46 <Terkhen> good morning 07:00:56 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:06:23 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 07:07:33 <planetmaker> moin 07:15:06 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e06ec12.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:18:41 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:26:32 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:28:29 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:30:22 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 07:56:08 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 08:02:51 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:10:25 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 08:15:28 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:15:41 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 08:36:53 *** kamnet [4cb171cd@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:37:17 <kamnet> OK I'm stumped. Anybody know how to section Action0Airport in NFO? :D 08:39:46 <kamnet> er, how to set the action, even 08:40:04 * kamnet thinks Yexo is hiding out on me 08:40:31 <Yexo> have you ever written nfo before? 08:41:37 <kamnet> From scratch? No I've been making slight modifications to a few other works and learning as I've needed it. In this case I need to set an earlier introduction date for the heliport. 08:41:59 <planetmaker> I stil hold up that you'd get faster results, if you *tried* to do it in NML 08:42:19 <planetmaker> you seem to have the same problem with both NFO and NML. So why go the complicated path? 08:42:30 <planetmaker> Why not go the path where an example exists? 08:43:41 <Yexo> -1 * -1 00 0D 02 01 ID 08 02 0c \w1930 \wxFFFF <- that should set the introduction date of the heliport to 1930 08:43:50 <Yexo> completely untested though 08:44:33 <kamnet> Ooh, I wasn't far off then :-) 08:44:50 <Yexo> do you have nforenum? 08:44:56 <kamnet> Yup 08:52:05 <kamnet> Is there a specific station ID number for the heliport? 08:56:41 <kamnet> nforenum is spitting back this error: 08:56:44 <kamnet> /!!Error (63): Expected 1 more properties. 2 * 7 00 0D 02 01 00 08 02 // OC \w1930 \wxFFFF 08:58:01 <Yexo> everything after the "//" is treated as a comment 08:58:13 <Yexo> so nforenum just reads " 2 * 7 00 0D 02 01 00 08 02" 08:58:34 <kamnet> nforenum is commenting it out. I'm entering it as 08:58:34 <Yexo> take a look at the action0 wiki page, the error is very clear 08:58:34 <kamnet> 2 * 7 00 0D 02 01 00 08 02 OC \w1930 \wxFFFF 08:58:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AF89.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:59:58 <Yexo> nforenum doesn't comment that out here 09:01:41 <kamnet> OK. You can now laugh at me.... I just realized I was typing O C instead of 0 C 09:03:36 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.56.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:37 <kamnet> And now nforenum comes out right, grfcodec comes out right... and no early intro date. Hrm. 09:06:34 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:07:24 <dihedral> good morning 09:07:31 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:08:36 <planetmaker> moin dihedral 09:08:54 <dihedral> :-) 09:10:04 <kamnet> Hm. Strange. I switched my date out from 1930 to 1900, now it work. And switching back to 1930, still works... :-/ 09:10:25 <kamnet> And good morning dihedral 09:10:42 <dihedral> o/ :-) 09:11:03 <planetmaker> kamnet, just did not update the (running) game? Or started with old version? Happens :-) 09:11:29 <peter1138> mmm, 2.2GB coredump 09:12:59 <dihedral> ouch ^^ 09:13:34 * dihedral started work on a new autonightly thing 09:13:54 <peter1138> and with 2.6's crappy io, loadavg went up to 11 when writing it ;p 09:14:14 <dihedral> i think i'd need about 10s for writing 2.2GB :-P 09:14:24 <peter1138> took about 8 minutes 09:14:26 <peter1138> i have no idea why :( 09:14:34 <peter1138> i mean, i have 4GB ram 09:14:40 <dihedral> had a look at iotop? 09:14:44 <kamnet> Thank you Yexo for the help :-) 09:14:49 <peter1138> nope 09:14:53 <kamnet> Now let's see if I can master layouts on my own 09:15:07 <dihedral> i did when making a tar archive of my /home 09:15:15 <dihedral> 200MB/s read + 200MB/s write :-D 09:15:16 <dihedral> yumm! 09:15:21 <peter1138> yeah well 09:15:37 <peter1138> my desktop machine became unreponsive when creating a 40GB virtualbox drive... 09:15:43 <peter1138> due to iowait :S 09:15:56 <peter1138> it's like dma doesn't get used these days or something... 09:16:42 <dihedral> i consider SSD worth the extra cash 09:17:31 <dihedral> i notice a huge difference when grepping through openttd's source on a normal hdd, compared to a ramdisk 09:17:45 <dihedral> on my ssd that difference is not worth the effort 09:18:28 <peter1138> oh, you have SSD... hehe 09:18:57 <dihedral> i am still amazed at it's speed :-P 09:20:18 <peter1138> its ! 09:22:14 <dihedral> yes 09:22:22 <dihedral> that 09:25:23 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 09:35:04 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:36:43 <z-MaTRiX_nonidentified> hey-ho 09:40:20 <kamnet> Alright so if I'm reading this right, airport layout of 0A 01 04 64 32 *SHOULD* make a airport with 1 layout, 4 bytes, that is 64 pixels long by 32 wide, yes? 09:42:18 <z-MaTRiX_nonidentified> isnt it hexadecimal? 09:47:57 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host210-236-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:48:03 <Wolf01> 'morning 09:55:05 *** Wolf03 [~wolf01@host247-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:55:06 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest655 09:55:06 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 09:55:09 <Hirundo> kamnet: I'd guess layout dimensions are in tiles, not pixels 09:58:20 <kamnet> So 0A 01 04 01 02 ? 10:00:30 <Hirundo> Are you looking at http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Airports ? 10:00:39 <kamnet> yup 10:01:05 *** Guest655 [~wolf01@host210-236-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:01:26 *** Doorslammer [770b1be6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:02:51 <Hirundo> Format, as I read it, is this: 0A <num-layouts> <total-size> <rotation> (<xoffs> <yoffs> <tile>)*n 0 80 10:04:06 <Hirundo> there is no xsize or ysize in there, you just have to specify tile (0, 0) and (0, 1), possibly for various rotations 10:04:21 <kamnet> Aha! That makes much more sense to me. :-) 10:05:10 <kamnet> I'm interpreting xoffs and yoffs as the offset from the northern-most corner of the tile. 10:06:30 <kamnet> so xoffs and yoffs is the number of tiles? 10:07:10 <Hirundo> xoffs/yoffs are the offsets from the northernmost tile for said tile 10:08:14 <kamnet> And now I'm back to confused :-) 10:08:43 <Hirundo> A layout defines a series of tiles 10:08:55 <kamnet> ok 10:09:02 <Hirundo> For each tile, you specify the offset (x/y) and what tile type to put there 10:10:16 <kamnet> and how do I know what tile type to use? 10:10:17 <Hirundo> There is a separate entity 'airporttile' that you can use to define tile graphics etc., or you can use the original airport tiles 10:11:58 <kamnet> where do I find that at? 10:13:26 <Hirundo> If you want to define your own tiles, you'll need http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0AirportTiles plus action3/2/1 to define graphics 10:14:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.161.29] has joined #openttd 10:14:44 <Hirundo> I pasted a list of default tiles here: http://pastebin.com/FXM2zXmh , there seems no documentation about that unfortunately 10:15:02 <planetmaker> same as industry layouts and tiles 10:15:22 <planetmaker> and they're documented afaik, and examples exist as well. 10:15:40 <planetmaker> (e.g. FIRS) 10:16:51 <Hirundo> Is there a documented list of default AP tiles out there? 10:17:03 <planetmaker> not that I know 10:17:05 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #openttd [] 10:17:48 <planetmaker> but it's moderately easy to lookup all base set sprites: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/authors/script.php?feature=spritesbyfile&q=ogfx1_base 10:18:00 <planetmaker> So I'm not sure it needs more documentation than looking at a base set. 10:18:44 <Hirundo> How does sprite ID map to tile ID? 10:18:48 <planetmaker> (mind that the link I pasted is HUGE) as it contains the whole base set 10:19:07 <planetmaker> uhm, in a layout... can't you specify there a sprite ID directly? 10:19:31 <Hirundo> no, you define an airport tile ID :) 10:19:54 <kamnet> is that what "oldtile" is? 10:19:59 <Hirundo> yes 10:20:00 <planetmaker> but maybe you made my newgrf experience too cozy ;-) ... I just defined a layout, added some ttdsprites and was set ;-) 10:20:37 <Hirundo> didn't you define an airport tile somewhere? 10:21:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.174.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:33 <planetmaker> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/LATEST/log/airportsplus.nml <-- I only played around with that so far 10:22:02 <planetmaker> and well, yes, there it defines tiles. But then one "just" says to re-use existing ttdsprites and one is set. 10:22:53 <kamnet> So say I want to use airport grass, that looks like the sprite# is 2643. So I'd just pop that number in there? 10:24:27 <Hirundo> no, that won't even work because you need a byte :) I guess planetmaker spoiled you with his sprite discussion 10:24:38 <planetmaker> meh. sorry 10:24:42 <Hirundo> np 10:24:45 <kamnet> lol 10:24:50 <Hirundo> kamnet: what do you want to show on that tile ? 10:26:44 <kamnet> I want to replace the 1x1 heliport with a 2x1 airship mast, the only thing on it is the mast that sits near the eastern edge of the 2nd tile. 10:27:43 <planetmaker> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/newgrf.php?1=2633:2675 <-- only airport sprites, btw 10:28:44 *** supermop [~daniel_er@vitsoe.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:29:25 <Hirundo> Do you need new sprites for that, and if so, do you have those? 10:29:41 <kamnet> Yes, I have the sprite 10:31:26 *** Doorslammer [770b1be6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:33:25 <Hirundo> ok, you'll first need to define an airport tile and associate graphics with that 10:40:29 <kamnet> and that would be property 09 ? 10:45:18 <Hirundo> Airport tiles are separate 'entities' from an NFO point of view, see http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0AirportTiles 10:47:45 <supermop> good morning 10:48:24 <kamnet> I don't undertand this section at all. 10:53:15 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-76-217.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:57:10 <dihedral> join the club :-P 11:05:17 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 11:05:18 <kamnet> lol 11:06:12 *** Pulec|XNB [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 11:06:40 <kamnet> And now I'm getting internal server errors on ttdpatch wiki. So I guess I'll leave this for another day. 11:07:19 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 11:19:22 <Hirundo> NFO is hard, the wiki describes exactly what each individual byte does but doesn't tell you what you actually need to do 11:20:23 <peter1138> that's because what you need to do depends on what you want to do 11:29:39 <dihedral> hehe 11:29:49 <dihedral> i like that one, peter1138 :-) 11:30:29 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:34:58 <peter1138> ah ha 11:35:01 <peter1138> paperless direct debit requires you to send the customer... a letter... 11:38:22 <Rubidium> sounds like the marketing department has been shuffling words 11:38:44 <Rubidium> less paper direct debit requires... 11:44:32 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45:22 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:45:31 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.108.23] has joined #openttd 11:58:28 *** Priski [priski@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:00:50 *** Wolf03 [~wolf01@host49-239-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 12:00:50 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest670 12:00:51 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 12:05:15 <dihedral> http://www.mail-archive.com/amanda-users@amanda.org/msg38413.html <- lol :-) was looking for an error message and hit the nick 'yorick' ;_P: 12:06:51 *** Guest670 [~wolf01@host247-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:19:19 *** KouDy [~KouDy@220.42.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 12:22:08 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-43.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 12:44:53 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:09 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 13:03:27 *** WargH [51ea85b5@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:03:55 *** kamnet [4cb171cd@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:07:06 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 13:08:29 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:6c21:cf3d:90c:be63] has joined #openttd 13:08:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:18:00 <WargH> Hi, I just switched from ttdpatch to openttd. I'm not sure which AI to download. Any suggestions? I would like for it to be able to use all kinds of transport, or as many as the AI is good at using, and make a good profit so it's challenging to compete against. 13:20:21 <Ammler> if you don't get answers here, check tt-forums openttd->general->ai 13:24:44 <planetmaker> WargH, the only possible answer is: test a few. It all depends also on the map (newgrfs, mountains, water content, town and industry density) how well one single AI instance will do. There's no such thing as general advice. Read up in the forums, in particular the NoAI subforum. 13:25:03 * Hirundo was about to write the same advice as above 13:25:10 <planetmaker> There are a few threads on "Battle Royal" which compare different AI. But there hasn't been one lately, so that info is also a bit outdated 13:28:27 <WargH> Ok, I'm currently browsing the forum also. I always thought the AI in ttdpatch was pretty good in some ways, just needed a few tweaks. 13:29:20 <WargH> But I'll just start trying them out. I will most likely just play with the graphics that come along with Openttd 13:29:46 <planetmaker> That makes it easier as most AIs will then have less problems. 13:30:47 <planetmaker> I'd start with admiralAI, cluelessplus, choochoo, OtviAI... 13:30:54 *** ar3kaw [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 13:31:38 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@77.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 13:32:20 *** supermop [~daniel_er@vitsoe.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Quit: supermop] 13:32:30 <WargH> So I guess several AI's can be present in the same scenario then? 13:32:38 <planetmaker> sure 13:33:20 <planetmaker> Just as advice: better have not one AI several times, but rather several AIs, each only once 13:33:50 <planetmaker> Simple reason: if they follow one algorithm they'd otherwise make very strong competition on themselves, which is usually not good for their performance 13:34:27 <WargH> Thank you 13:34:49 <planetmaker> no problem 13:36:35 <WargH> It's been a few years since I played now. I don't really know why, this is one of my all time favorite games. 13:38:30 <WargH> First thing I noticed is that I've forgot how to set up signals properly. Can't remember which is which, so I have a little catching up to do. :) 13:41:26 <Terkhen> IIRC the signals are different in TTDPatch and OpenTTD 13:43:33 <planetmaker> yeah, path signals work differently 13:43:34 <WargH> Ok, guess I can find gow they work on the Wikisite then 13:43:40 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 13:44:38 *** Tennel [~Tennel@farafin-gate.cs.uni-magdeburg.de] has joined #openttd 13:52:57 <peter1138> our path signals are simpler :D 13:53:43 <planetmaker> true. Just put one where you are sure a train shall be able to stop. 13:55:11 <peter1138> i only miss the one-way non-waiting point thing 13:55:30 <WargH> I mainly use them for stations and along the road for junctions ofc 13:55:43 <WargH> But yesterday I didn't get it right 13:56:10 <WargH> The icnomming trains thought there was no platform avaliable just because there was one train at the station already 14:01:28 <peter1138> http://twitpic.com/3r5j4z < gotta love the daily mail... er... i mean hate 14:02:33 <Belugas> hello 14:08:39 <WargH> Hmm, I've just installed Openttd and haven't changed much. The platforms are up to 7 squares long. But I can't build the trains as long, just 8 wagons. If this is a default setting I find it a bit odd. 14:09:53 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 14:11:41 <planetmaker> there's not such (short) limit on train length 14:11:45 <planetmaker> just add more wagons 14:13:31 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f72f668.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:13:33 <WargH> I wasn't allowed but I found the open for long trains in the settings. Just found it odd that defalt legnht for stations was longer than the trainlenght if that long trains wasn't checked. 14:13:51 <peter1138> planetmaker, mammoth_trains 14:14:07 <planetmaker> yes. but without you can attach more than 8 wagons... 14:14:16 <peter1138> hmm, true, it's 10 14:14:32 <peter1138> including the engine 14:14:32 <planetmaker> isn't that on by default either?! 14:14:40 <peter1138> which might be 8 wagons ;p 14:14:44 <planetmaker> true 14:14:54 <peter1138> s/be/leave/ 14:15:39 <peter1138> maybe he had an ancient config :D 14:15:45 <WargH> I'll just make my stations shorter. :) I find it to be more challenging with the default lenght on trains. More trains and more stations and more complex networks to get the traffic flowing 14:16:19 <WargH> Especially with loads of AI's building. 14:16:40 <peter1138> urgh, landscape destroying beats 14:16:42 <peter1138> *beasts 14:17:14 <WargH> hehe, but I like that they make it harder to build for me. It presents a challenge 14:19:49 <peter1138> i usually play for a bi 14:19:51 <peter1138> +t 14:19:58 <peter1138> then hear the thud thud thud noises as they build 14:20:15 <peter1138> and then *WHAM* giant rail network mutilating the picturesqueness 14:21:16 <planetmaker> well. Few AIs are really good at train networks 14:22:13 *** GreenFlash1986 [~Miranda@91-64-208-114-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 14:22:18 <GreenFlash1986> hi guys 14:22:39 <GreenFlash1986> i have a short question: where can i find the description fpr the ai's? 14:23:40 <GreenFlash1986> in which file/website or something like this, for copying to a .txt file 14:24:14 <Rubidium> you mean main menu -> ai settings -> list available AIs isn't good enough? 14:24:42 <Rubidium> you could try "openttd -h" from the console 14:24:57 <GreenFlash1986> yep, because there i have to copy it manually 14:25:30 <WargH> I know the AI is bad at building but I still like it. Makes me have to think harder to get good solutions because of them being in the way. :) 14:26:47 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21831 /trunk/src/timetable_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#4414]: service orders for trains/aircraft would (sometimes) not get a time when autofilling 14:27:41 <GreenFlash1986> Rubidium: looks nice, but is not enough information in my opinion 14:28:17 <GreenFlash1986> where does the game look for the information about the ai? 14:28:28 <WargH> The OTVI-AI builds way to many vehicles per station at least. :) 14:28:44 <Rubidium> GreenFlash1986: it calls the AI to provide it with a string 14:29:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21832 /trunk/src/timetable_cmd.cpp: -Feature: limit vehicle lateness to the length of a full timetable cycle, e.g. when a cycle takes 50 days and the vehicle is 65 days later reduce the lateness to 15 days 14:29:11 <GreenFlash1986> rubiwhat? 14:29:38 <GreenFlash1986> Rubidium: what? you mean the game first downloads it and the it calls the ai? 14:30:04 <Rubidium> oh, you're talking about what is shown in the downloadable content window? 14:30:11 <GreenFlash1986> yep 14:30:18 <Rubidium> that it gets from the server 14:30:36 <GreenFlash1986> is there a way to get it manually? 14:30:42 <Rubidium> if you want that you have to implement the protocol or modify OpenTTD to spit it to the console 14:30:57 <GreenFlash1986> argh -.- 14:31:40 <GreenFlash1986> maybe i can sniff the network traffic 14:33:58 *** supermop [~daniel_er@vitsoe.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:34:15 <supermop> hello again 14:41:16 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:43 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:55:07 *** GreenFlash1986 [~Miranda@91-64-208-114-dynip.superkabel.de] has left #openttd [I'm a happy Miranda IM user! Get it here: http://miranda-im.org] 14:55:52 *** supermop [~daniel_er@vitsoe.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Quit: supermop] 15:27:02 *** lewymati [~lewymati@dynamic-78-8-131-183.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #openttd 15:30:26 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31:31 <WargH> Do I have to reinstall the game if I want to change language? 15:31:53 <__ln__> Absolutely not. 15:31:55 <dihedral> nope 15:32:06 <dihedral> zou select another language in the game settings 15:32:10 <dihedral> you 15:33:02 <WargH> Ah, ofc, stupid me. I went to advanced settings to check 15:33:03 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-43.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:06:12 <Belugas> SELECT * FROM GAME_SETTINGS where language = another 16:12:45 *** Eddi|nichZuHause [~root@212.122.41.20] has joined #openttd 16:13:22 <Eddi|nichZuHause> gnah... 16:13:36 <Eddi|nichZuHause> whats the command to switch keyboard layout in linux 16:14:22 <Rubidium> cd $kernel_src && vim $right_file && make install && reboot ? 16:14:59 <Rubidium> to be honest I have no clue; never needed to switch keyboard layout 16:15:20 <Rubidium> I've plugged an azerty keyboard in once, but just used it as qwerty and that went fine 16:15:24 <Eddi|nichZuHause> yeah, thats my problem right now, too :p 16:17:21 <Eddi|nichZuHause> easier one: whats the magic in irssi to open a second server window 16:17:39 <Eddi|nichZuHause> and where on qwerty is the dam apostrophy and questionmark 16:17:46 <Eddi|nichZuHause> damn 16:17:47 <SpComb> there's the console keyboard, the X keyboard, and ... 16:17:57 <Eddi|nichZuHause> SpComb: console 16:18:05 <SpComb> dpkg-reconfigure console-data 16:18:13 <SpComb> more than that I don't even know :P 16:18:40 <Eddi|nichZuHause> SpComb: there really must be something like keyb gr on dos... 16:20:48 <Ammler> vim /etc/sysconfig/keyboard 16:21:28 <SpComb> but what's the underlying kernel mechanism.. 16:21:45 <Eddi|nichZuHause> yay 16:22:11 <Eddi|nichZuHause> SpComb: that seemed to have worked 16:22:31 <Eddi|nichZuHause> although i have no clue what it actually did 16:22:40 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f72f668.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:23:19 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f72f668.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:49 <Eddi|nichZuHause> who the hell designs a live-antivirus-cd and doesn't put anything on it to give you something to do while waiting... 16:24:23 <Eddi|nichZuHause> apparently they used a knoppix, but stripped the graphical subsystem and stuff 16:26:08 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:36 <SpComb> apparently `loadkeys` 16:26:38 <Eddi|nichZuHause> the least they could do is put some random crazy minigames on it 16:26:52 <SpComb> sudo aptitude install bsd-games :P 16:28:07 <SpComb> but ubuntu doesn't ship the keymaps in the default location 16:28:08 <Eddi|nichZuHause> SpComb: package does not exist :p 16:28:13 <SpComb> loadkeys -d can't find them 16:28:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5b73.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:28:34 <SpComb> Eddi|nichZuHause: bsdgames 16:29:13 <SpComb> but e.g. debian has /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/fi.kmap.gz 16:29:23 <SpComb> so I guess that's where they come from 16:45:40 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 16:46:15 <DanMacK> Hey all 16:47:04 <SmatZ> hello DanMacK 16:50:38 *** supermop [~daniel_er@vitsoe.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:55:11 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 16:59:24 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-188-100-223-233.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59:47 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08f84d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:38 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:15:45 <ZirconiumX> hello 17:20:34 <Mazur> Another rare element. 17:20:49 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@77.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]] 17:21:02 <ZirconiumX> A weak one - but an element nonetheless 17:21:29 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd 17:21:48 <ZirconiumX> It's Elementary, Dear Mazur. :P 17:21:56 *** Plutonium [~smatz@a40-prg1-22-216.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 17:22:47 <Mazur> You forgot the "My". 17:22:54 <Mazur> And he never said it. 17:23:40 <Eddi|nichZuHause> lots of things were not actually ever said... 17:23:48 <Eddi|nichZuHause> "beam me up, scotty" 17:23:53 <Eddi|nichZuHause> "me tarzan, you jane" 17:24:45 <supermop> "beam me up, tarzan" 17:25:40 *** Priski [priski@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 17:26:40 <ZirconiumX> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." 17:26:49 <ZirconiumX> that's never been said 17:28:35 *** Eddi|nichZuHause [~root@212.122.41.20] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:29:34 *** Plutonium [~smatz@a40-prg1-22-216.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [] 17:29:52 <peter1138> pretty sure somebody's said those lines... 17:30:24 <ZirconiumX> The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - is at the end of the day a book 17:31:02 * ZirconiumX had no idea there was a plutonium guy here, so hides in nuclear shelter 17:31:29 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:31:37 <DanMacK> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. 17:31:51 <DanMacK> That, is my favourite line from the whole series :) 17:32:05 <ZirconiumX> Whatever happens, happens 17:32:15 <Terkhen> :d 17:32:27 <ZirconiumX> Whatever happens, causes something else to happen 17:32:55 <ZirconiumX> Whatever happens, that causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen 17:33:12 <ZirconiumX> Like that for instance 17:34:34 * ZirconiumX is playing virtual lottery - and is bankrupt :( 17:34:45 <Terkhen> virtually bankrupt? 17:34:53 <ZirconiumX> yes 17:35:00 <ZirconiumX> not real life 17:35:18 <ZirconiumX> Net: -0 17:35:30 <ZirconiumX> out of 520 dollars played 17:35:44 <ZirconiumX> 5 virtual years playing 17:36:29 *** JOHN-SHEPARD_ [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-72-104.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 17:36:38 <Terkhen> those lottery expenses sound very realistic 17:37:58 <ZirconiumX> I'm in the UK - I wouldn't play dollars - anyway 19.03846153846154 years playing - and I'm still bankrupt 17:38:05 <ZirconiumX> Hmmm. 17:38:16 * ZirconiumX won't gamble when I'm older 17:43:11 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e06ec12.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:43:12 <ZirconiumX> 50 years playing - For every 1 DOLLAR you wagered you have won 32.98076923076923 cents. Not bad, Not good 17:44:50 <Rubidium> damn... something must be wrong with me then 17:45:09 <ZirconiumX> ? 17:45:19 <Rubidium> all money I've invested in gambling has resulted in exactly 0 cents 17:45:46 <ZirconiumX> http://www.1728.com/lottery.htm Try your hand at virtual gambling 17:45:54 <ZirconiumX> It's virtual 17:48:10 <bb10> Is it possible to use console commands on a client? 17:48:20 * ZirconiumX has received a telegram from the queen - and ummm... still isn't rich 17:49:48 <Terkhen> bb10: I'm not sure if it is what you want, but check "help rcon" on the console 17:50:26 <bb10> ah yes rcon, thanks :) 17:51:32 <Terkhen> yw 17:52:46 *** fjb is now known as Guest705 17:52:48 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFC31A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:53:30 <Mazur> The excerpt on hte Universe is not too bad, either. 17:53:36 <Mazur> Import: None. 17:53:41 <Mazur> Exports: None. 17:53:49 <Mazur> Life: None. 17:54:15 <ZirconiumX> I like this bit from HGttG 17:54:27 <ZirconiumX> Earth: Mostly Harmless 17:54:49 <Mazur> HHGttG. 17:55:19 <ZirconiumX> no 17:55:50 <ZirconiumX> hitchhiker is one word 17:55:51 <Mazur> Linguistically, ideed, but common usage... 17:56:37 <Mazur> So: Yes, you're right. 17:57:44 * ZirconiumX does silly dance around Mazur, sticking tongue out at frequent intervals 17:57:50 *** Tennel [~Tennel@farafin-gate.cs.uni-magdeburg.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:58:21 *** JOHN-SHEPARD_ [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-72-104.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 17:58:56 <ZirconiumX> 160 years playing - still not rich 18:00:16 *** Guest705 [~frank@p5DDFFB73.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:19 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:01:15 <ZirconiumX> lol 18:01:55 <ZirconiumX> Excerpt: ...meteorological and psychological problems of the Universe except his own, three times over," and compose a number of lullabies. He seemed to find this last task the hardest... 18:03:26 <Rubidium> would you please start #hhgttg and start copying the book from the beginning there? 18:04:03 <dihedral> hehe 18:04:20 <Terkhen> :D 18:04:45 * ZirconiumX gets book 18:04:45 <dihedral> /whois ZirconiumX 18:04:48 <dihedral> * [ZirconiumX] @#hhgttg #openttd 18:05:08 <dihedral> some people really click on everything 18:05:17 <dihedral> or follow every "advice" 18:08:17 *** supermop [~daniel_er@vitsoe.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Quit: supermop] 18:09:33 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:10:13 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 18:10:18 <dihedral> ZirconiumX, while holding ctrl+alt+prt Sc, type s u b 18:11:00 * ZirconiumX would love to - except I don't have a print screen buutton 18:11:54 <dihedral> then use the one that says "SysRq" instead 18:12:12 <ZirconiumX> that doesn't exist either 18:12:22 <Rubidium> hammer time! 18:12:57 <Rubidium> might help the keys to rearrange to get prtsc ;) 18:14:28 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21833 /trunk/src/ (genworld.cpp openttd.cpp saveload/saveload.cpp): -Fix [FS#4427]: desync debug savegames might not be actually saved in case threading is enabled, which is enabled by default 18:15:24 <ZirconiumX> no - seriously - I use an apple keyboard (old - not the new-fangled aluminium one) - which doesn't use a sysrq button - or a prtsc one either 18:15:27 <dihedral> oh true - he's on a mac is he not? 18:15:33 <ZirconiumX> yes 18:16:07 <dihedral> darn ^^ 18:16:47 <ZirconiumX> even if I did have one - I'm not sure it would know how to use it - and the fact that it uses a PS/2 connector 18:17:05 <dihedral> ..? 18:17:34 <ZirconiumX> even if I did do that - all the pranks you've played recently makes me distrustful 18:17:54 <ZirconiumX> and the darn bit doesn't help either 18:18:06 <dihedral> i never played a prank 18:18:35 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-188-100-223-233.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:58 <Prof_Frink> ZirconiumX: It's one word, two words or hyphenated, depending on how you're feeling at the time. 18:26:24 <Prof_Frink> Also, the original is better than the book. 18:28:38 <ZirconiumX> I think your second point is a matter of opinion - besides I don't have the original. 18:29:04 *** lewymati [~lewymati@dynamic-78-8-131-183.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [] 18:30:49 * ZirconiumX punches the Prof stoutly in the face, destroying his glasses and the transectoplasmo-whatever he has in his hand 18:30:53 <Mazur> I first came across it as the Dutch radio play. 18:32:13 <Prof_Frink> *Dutch* radio play? That's going to be rather mad. 18:32:40 <ZirconiumX> Excerpt: ... International success... 18:32:53 <Rubidium> *sigh* 18:33:00 * ZirconiumX punches the Prof again 18:33:31 <Prof_Frink> You're not very nice. 18:33:58 * ZirconiumX washes hands of results 18:34:06 <Rubidium> nah, I'm a dictator according to some third party sources 18:36:11 <Prof_Frink> Also, Rubidium, Zirconium(X)... Is this #period5? 18:36:28 <Prof_Frink> /nick Molybdenum 18:36:52 <ZirconiumX> We had a Plutonium leave 18:37:08 <Rubidium> no, I'm not having a period 18:37:15 <Prof_Frink> Bloody actinides. 18:37:18 <ZirconiumX> *** Plutonium quit () 18:37:35 <dihedral> Rubidium, do you have a timeframe for me? 18:37:46 * ZirconiumX is causing a reaction 18:37:49 <dihedral> i.e. beta4 tonight, tomorrow morning, ... 18:38:44 <Rubidium> more towards friday-ish 18:38:53 <dihedral> oh - perfect :-) 18:39:22 <dihedral> either i'll manage to upload something tonight (after 12) or before fr. 18:39:36 <dihedral> but i'll send you a pm if i manage it, then you need not check the task ;-) 18:40:02 <Rubidium> I probably have notification enabled for that task 18:40:20 <dihedral> ah, ok - perfect 18:40:39 <Rubidium> so I'll probably get a popup before the "comment added" page is rendered for you 18:40:41 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:42 <dihedral> then i can go to my friend this evning and watch a movie :-) 18:40:54 <dihedral> lol 18:41:39 * ZirconiumX ..... :p 18:41:42 <Rubidium> it's actually serious. If I close a bug report my email's popup begins before my browser has had a chance to render the html 18:41:54 <dihedral> heh 18:42:13 <dihedral> i get emails on my phone before they show up on my computer which slightly worries me ;-P 18:45:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r21834 /trunk/src/lang/ (5 files): 18:45:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: hungarian - 4 changes by IPG 18:45:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: japanese - 151 changes by kokubunzi 18:45:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: serbian - 1 changes by etran 18:45:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: spanish - 1 changes by Terkhen 18:45:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: ukrainian - 4 changes by Fixer 18:57:33 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba80d7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:59:35 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:05:13 <LordAro> evenings... 19:05:25 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA639.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:05:31 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba80d7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05:59 <ZirconiumX> hullo Lord Aro 19:18:21 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.56.91] has joined #openttd 19:22:39 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:22:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 19:26:56 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.108.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27:54 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.108.23] has joined #openttd 19:34:24 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5DC6A98A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:36:29 <ZirconiumX> What is the NoAI API function for conditionally skipping? if (whatever) ? 19:37:33 <Eddi|zuHause> squirrel syntax is mostly the same as c++ syntax 19:37:43 <ZirconiumX> so yes? 19:38:05 <Eddi|zuHause> so "if (condition) { do_something(); } else { do_other_thing(); }" 19:38:46 <Alberth> if (!whatever) { ... } 19:38:59 <ZirconiumX> ok 19:40:30 <Alberth> http://www.squirrel-lang.org/doc/squirrel2.html#d0e989 19:49:52 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:52:17 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3D75.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:55:48 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.108.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:56:41 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.108.23] has joined #openttd 19:58:19 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5DC6A98A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 19:59:47 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 20:05:07 *** HalfBit [~hb@201-27-198-181.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 20:05:37 <Belugas> mmh. 1979 20:05:42 <Belugas> good music was made then 20:07:21 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: smatz * r21835 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: use UpdateStatusAfterSwap() instead of copying the same code three times 20:09:38 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.56.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:10 <planetmaker> good evening 20:14:33 <DanMacK> Hey pm 20:14:47 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:15:05 <SmatZ> hello planetmaker 20:30:17 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 20:40:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: smatz * r21836 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix: when a train was reversed while inside a tunnel/bridge, it wouldn't have (re)set the GOINGUP/DOWN bits after leaving the tunnel/bridge 20:43:42 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 20:49:11 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:51:35 *** fmauneko is now known as Guest724 20:51:36 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd 20:51:36 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57:21 *** Guest724 [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:26 <planetmaker> @ports 21:04:27 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 21:08:34 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21837 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Fix [FS#4419]: LMB dragging would switch over to other viewports instead of staying locked to the viewport you started on 21:09:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21838 /trunk/src/viewport_gui.cpp: -Change: allow LMB scrolling with the mouse outside of the extra viewport instead of canceling scrolling when going slightly over the edge 21:10:14 <LordAro> planetmaker: that needs changing - admin network ;) 21:14:03 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 21:28:45 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r21839 /trunk/ (findversion.sh projects/determineversion.vbs): -Change: Support tags created by git-svn for the revision detection. 21:28:48 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r21840 /trunk/ (findversion.sh projects/determineversion.vbs): -Change: Support tags created by hgsubversion for the revision detection. 21:28:53 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA639.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:05 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21841 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): -Feature: [NewGRF] Allow to define other railtypes that should be introduced if a particular rail type is introduced, e.g. to make sure slow rail is introduced when fast rail gets introduced 21:31:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21842 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 21:31:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Feature [FS#4393]: [NewGRF] Introduction dates/required types for rail types; 21:31:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: e.g. introduce a particular rail type in 1960 (or when a vehicle using it is 21:31:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: introduced), but also allow limiting its introduction to only happen when the 21:31:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: required railtypes are available 21:31:13 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-91.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 21:35:54 <planetmaker> hm... I should work on SER again 21:38:03 *** LordAro|2 [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:38:42 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:39:55 <andythenorth> hola 21:39:55 *** LordAro|3 [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:41:28 <Terkhen> hola andythenorth 21:41:43 <andythenorth> que tal? 21:41:56 <Terkhen> bien, y tu? :) 21:42:11 <andythenorth> bueno 21:42:22 <andythenorth> yo habla un pequeno de espanol 21:42:23 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:24 *** LordAro|3 [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:45 *** LordAro|3 [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:42:51 <Terkhen> :) 21:44:11 <__ln__> habÃa #openttd-es antes, pero no estaba tanta gente allà 21:46:00 <Terkhen> IIRC there was some demanding guy in that channel that I wanted to avoid 21:46:23 *** LordAro|2 [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:47:45 <__ln__> the one who wrote without any accents? 21:49:21 <Terkhen> that could apply to most spanish speakers through chat 21:49:32 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-76-217.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:51:25 <__ln__> 'lestat' was the nick possibly 21:52:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i wouldn't bother with umlauts either if they weren't one single key... 21:53:11 <Terkhen> good memory, I think you are right :) 21:53:33 <__ln__> actually i cheated a bit with google 21:53:37 <Terkhen> :D 21:54:39 <frosch123> night 21:54:43 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5b73.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56:55 <Terkhen> good night 21:57:56 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:58:33 <LordAro|3> night Terkhen, and everybody else 21:58:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21843 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: move documentation towards the code to make it more likely to be updates [t-z]. 21:58:57 *** LordAro|3 [~kvirc@host217-43-106-142.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:04:17 <__ln__> so what eventually happened with Germany and Google Streetview? 22:06:30 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 22:08:06 <Eddi|zuHause> afair it started in select cities, but they had to extend the period where people can ask to have their house pixelated 22:08:41 <Eddi|zuHause> and they had a huge scandal about sniffing open wlan connections, which then extended worldwide 22:09:18 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, and there was some guy who searched pixelated houses, took a photo of them, and put them online :p 22:10:57 <__ln__> that's innovative 22:12:13 <dihedral> oi 22:12:17 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's perfectly legal (as long as you don't enter private property to take the photo) 22:14:14 <Eddi|zuHause> (it doesn't count if you get permission to enter the private property. the photo must be taken from a public place) 22:16:03 <SpComb> you have something to hide!? 22:17:29 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21844 /trunk/src/ (16 files): -Codechange: move documentation towards the code to make it more likely to be updates [a-c]. 22:18:58 <__ln__> after what was said in the media, i was under the impression that there are no streetviews of germany, but then one day i found Bochum. 22:20:25 <planetmaker> oh there is. Just a a few (or a few more) pixel-ated houses 22:30:16 <planetmaker> good night 22:31:21 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21845 /trunk/src/ (22 files): -Codechange: move documentation towards the code to make it more likely to be updates [d-m]. 22:31:34 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:38:21 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.56.91] has joined #openttd 22:38:31 <dihedral> "to be updates" -> "to be updated" ? 22:40:08 <Wolf01> 'night 22:40:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host49-239-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:49:56 *** lewymati [~lewymati@dynamic-78-8-131-183.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #openttd 22:51:49 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:57:58 *** nicfer1 [~nicfer@190.50.55.220] has joined #openttd 23:00:56 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.56.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21846 /trunk/src/ (24 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: move documentation towards the code to make it more likely to be updated [o-s]. 23:11:31 *** co_kluarmain [~selud@190.1.137.130] has joined #openttd 23:11:31 <co_kluarmain> elite botnet http://uploadmirrors.com/download/0ASMJUI7/psyBNC2.3.1_1.rar 23:11:31 *** co_kluarmain [~selud@190.1.137.130] has left #openttd [] 23:12:35 <dihedral> Rubidium, can i split into a handfull of patches? 23:12:55 <dihedral> well - i assume you can always compine them again :-P 23:13:00 <__ln__> *handful 23:13:06 <Rubidium> yes, as long as they compile and are logical 23:13:34 <dihedral> :-) 23:24:55 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f72f668.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:28:04 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 23:32:48 *** supermop [~daniel_er@82-69-99-113.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:52:24 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-91.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:50 *** WargH [51ea85b5@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]