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00:11:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-157-46.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:16:40 <DoubleYou> how do i install openttd 1.0.5 next to 1.1.0-beta4? 00:16:54 <DoubleYou> it says 'you have a newer version, setup will now exit' 00:17:06 <DoubleYou> but online games in 1.1.0-beta4 are basically inexistent 00:20:35 <Ammler> DoubleYou: use the zip 00:20:37 <Eddi|zuHause> don't use the installer. download the zip 00:20:45 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: :-P 00:21:14 <DoubleYou> heh sounds logical :) 00:22:27 <Eddi|zuHause> theoretically you should be able to unpack the installer as well, but using the zip is probably easier ;) 00:29:15 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:29:16 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-198-83.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:29:51 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30:52 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:30:57 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:36:41 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-4d0372dd.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:26:49 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.11.14.158] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 01:27:25 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 03:31:29 *** andrew12 [me@pool-71-166-130-45.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:32:18 *** andrew12 [~me@pool-71-166-130-45.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:49:25 *** Milo [~Milo@173-18-255-216.client.mchsi.com] has joined #openttd 04:02:32 *** Milo [~Milo@173-18-255-216.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 04:42:13 <andrew12> openttd needs some sort of sandbox mode 04:46:14 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:82e:1e3a:7eb0:6cab] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:04:45 <Eddi|zuHause> tried ctrl+alt+c? 05:06:59 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 05:21:48 <andrew12> Eddi|zuHause: that isn't quite what i meant ;) 05:24:54 <andrew12> i mean like a flat world with nothing on it.. and you get to build industries 05:25:09 <andrew12> it'd be useful to test things like junctions to see if you understand them properly.. :p 05:26:09 <andrew12> though making an empty scenario works :p 05:50:21 <andrew12> except the whole "only 1 allowed per town" 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7682B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76971.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:57:53 <andrew12> of course, there's an advanced setting for that 05:59:05 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:26:09 <andrew12> i wonder if this is turing complete ;) 07:03:45 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 07:06:09 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:08:58 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e06ec12.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:14:10 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 07:24:29 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:31:06 <Terkhen> good morning 07:31:33 <Terkhen> andrew12: if you are interested there are some posts about logic gates at the forum 07:33:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:35:15 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:40:11 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:45:27 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:47:34 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 07:48:48 <planetmaker> moin 08:10:18 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 08:15:38 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC39E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:28:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B78B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:59:52 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:07:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A4F5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D6D3.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 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#openttd 12:49:36 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 13:02:50 <DanMacK> Hey Lakie 13:02:58 <Lakie> Hi DanMacK 13:04:44 <planetmaker> heya 13:04:50 <Lakie> Hi planetmaker 13:05:23 * Lakie wonders if kemnat realizes the work behind splitting larger projects... 13:10:54 <planetmaker> :-) 13:11:18 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 13:11:36 <planetmaker> I meanwhile think that there's a reasonable size and boundaries for projects 13:12:01 <planetmaker> The natural boundaries IMHO are the feature boundaries. Combining them makes it harder for the player without much need coding-wise 13:12:08 <planetmaker> most often 13:12:21 <planetmaker> Including a dock in a ship set... well :-) 13:12:26 <planetmaker> those are border cases 13:12:45 <Lakie> Hehe 13:12:50 <planetmaker> Also one can split e.g. a road vehicle set between busses, trams and trucks 13:12:51 <Lakie> Stations with a train grf? 13:13:01 <planetmaker> nah, they're separate :-) 13:13:05 <planetmaker> They're not really related 13:13:10 <Lakie> True 13:13:25 <planetmaker> but a station grf with one station: also silly 13:13:41 <planetmaker> so: one station: ok and border-line. But if it gets bigger: better split 13:14:09 <Lakie> I guess 13:14:17 <planetmaker> so better split it in the beginning ;-) and sell it as taster station grf... difficult, yes 13:14:48 <Lakie> Heh, well not really difficualt more inconvient 13:14:49 <planetmaker> too many 1-thing grfs bloat the grf list 13:15:02 <planetmaker> difficult decision I meant. Yes :-) 13:15:06 <Lakie> But cherry picking each object / station in a grf is somewhat unfeasable sometimes. 13:15:14 <planetmaker> oh, sure. 13:15:27 <planetmaker> Cherry picking every single engine in a set like 2ccTS: impossible 13:15:46 <planetmaker> Cherry-picking "steamers", "metro", "small subset": very desirable 13:16:10 <planetmaker> also: no player is forced to use every vehicle. 13:16:23 <planetmaker> even in a MP environment: you can agree to not use vehicle XY 13:16:25 <planetmaker> no problem 13:16:33 <DanMacK> Exactly... people comment on NARS being too "packed" 13:16:45 <DanMacK> Not many railroads used all locos ;) 13:16:53 <planetmaker> :-) 13:17:08 <Lakie> Heh 13:17:16 <Lakie> Use the ones you like leave the rest... 13:17:21 <Lakie> People do that anyway... 13:17:42 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:17:48 <planetmaker> yeah. But yes, it makes sense for big vehicle sets to possibly offer the option to cut down the choice to a still logical and sensible subset 13:17:54 * andythenorth couldn't resist replying to the stupid stupid thread 13:17:56 <andythenorth> oh 13:17:59 <andythenorth> you're discussing it too? 13:18:04 <DanMacK> Hey Andy 13:18:04 <andythenorth> where's the fricking wat? 13:18:07 <planetmaker> not sure :-) moin andy 13:18:08 <andythenorth> war /s 13:18:16 <andythenorth> where's the war? 13:18:22 <Lakie> Hi andythenorth 13:18:26 <Lakie> Don't see one... 13:19:00 * DanMacK neither 13:19:04 <andythenorth> apparently I'm at war with someone 13:19:13 <andythenorth> I don't know if I'm a 'designer' or a 'developer' though :P 13:19:18 <planetmaker> gah. why did you mention that thread, andythenorth ? I totally ignored and forgot it - till now :S 13:19:26 <andythenorth> he 13:19:34 <andythenorth> nothing like wasting a short part of our short lives s;P 13:19:43 <planetmaker> lol :-) 13:19:43 <DanMacK> Andy... I'd say both 13:19:58 * andythenorth has is about to get sucked into a flame war like an internet noob 13:20:04 <Lakie> I'd prefer no war, I'd hate to end up having to lock and warn peeps... 13:20:13 <planetmaker> :-) 13:20:17 <peter1138> hmm? 13:21:06 <DanMacK> Throw water on it before it's too late :P 13:21:14 <planetmaker> on sodium? 13:21:40 <Lakie> Bang? 13:27:49 * andythenorth wonders 13:27:59 <andythenorth> could new objects have tile-based cargo acceptance? 13:28:14 <andythenorth> this would be pure black-hole stuff 13:28:22 <andythenorth> no code to do anything with the cargo 13:28:39 <planetmaker> they know nothing about cargo 13:28:52 *** DayDreamer [~pouzara@80.95.101.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:29:14 <andythenorth> so to get PAX acceptance at something like a lighthouse or hydro-power plant, better to do an industry? 13:30:13 <planetmaker> you'd need to, yes. 13:30:21 <planetmaker> or a house. But you cannot place that... 13:30:25 <Lakie> objects have no code to do with cargo stuff at all... (simplicity was their purpose) 13:30:29 * andythenorth ponders 'eye candy industries' 13:30:43 <andythenorth> what are HQs conceptually? 13:30:45 * planetmaker has an eye candy power plant ;-) 13:30:47 <andythenorth> houses, or 'HQs' 13:30:57 <planetmaker> HQs are HQs ;-) 13:31:13 <planetmaker> though they count internally as a kind of special object. At least in OpenTTD 13:31:18 <Lakie> Same 13:31:24 <Lakie> Special object... 13:31:40 * Lakie was too lazy to have to hack it around... 13:31:47 <planetmaker> :-) 13:32:05 <andythenorth> I want to do a lightship 13:32:11 <andythenorth> to which I can deliver PAX and stuff 13:32:31 <planetmaker> he. "Elbe 1"? 13:32:59 <planetmaker> it would need to be an industry, I guess. Currently there's no other option. 13:33:03 <andythenorth> the world's largest lightship? 13:33:07 <andythenorth> doesn't look that big :P 13:33:34 <Lakie> 'lightlship'? 13:33:38 <Lakie> Going futuristic? 13:34:04 <planetmaker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightvessel 13:34:56 <Lakie> Hmm... that could be a small problem in testing... 13:35:23 <Lakie> Needs like vista upwards (windows api changes) and only got win7 to test the check is working... 13:35:42 * andythenorth back to work 13:35:42 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 13:47:08 <Eddi|zuHause> better to do an object and live without the ability to have cargo acceptance 13:47:24 <planetmaker> hm... my e-mail address dedicated to communications with Sun now receives e-mail from Oracle :S 13:47:54 <Lakie> Did Sun get bought by Oracle? 13:48:01 <planetmaker> even though they discontinue everything I ever found interesting to register an e-mail at sun... 13:48:08 <FauxFaux> Lakie: ... 13:48:12 <planetmaker> yes, I know too well... 13:51:27 <Lakie> Didn't* ? 13:51:35 * Lakie wasn't sure, was a while back... 13:52:28 <planetmaker> oracle bought sun, yes. 13:53:46 *** elmz_ [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 14:00:41 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:18:03 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d017:9361:79f2:798a] has joined #openttd 14:18:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:31:22 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 14:38:22 <Belugas> hello 14:39:34 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:16:10 *** rellig [~rellig@vs1191017.vserver.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:16:21 *** rellig [~rellig@vs1191017.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 15:39:51 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:40:05 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49:32 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:53 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@45.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 15:58:57 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:06:01 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 16:17:07 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 16:17:32 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30:44 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:31:22 *** shmore [~shmore@dhcp-0-12-17-51-3b-2d.cpe.mountaincable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:45:31 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e06ec12.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:48:05 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 16:51:06 * DanMacK thinks enhanced bouys needs to be brought into OTTD 16:51:21 <Terkhen> enhanced in which way? 16:51:56 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=927805#p927805 <--- err. wtf? 16:51:56 <DanMacK> as in TTDP to use them as docks 16:52:13 <Eddi|zuHause> DanMacK: nah, that's silly 16:52:29 <Eddi|zuHause> DanMacK: rather "extended docks" need to be brought into ottd 16:53:28 <Eddi|zuHause> like "river docks" that don't need sloped land. or "ocean platforms" if you really need a buoy-like dock in the middle of nowhere 16:54:06 <DanMacK> well, I'd like the ability to have a station alongside a water slope and the ships actually go lengthwise along it 16:54:35 <Ammler> I wonder, shouldn't it be possible to make a oil rig, which does not procude any oil? 16:54:41 <DanMacK> mainly eye candy, I'll admit, but it looks better 16:55:12 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: you can have any industry create a dock/heliport like an oil rig 16:55:18 <planetmaker> yes. But Eddi is right: buoys is the wrong concept. Newgrf ports is proper ;-) 16:55:29 <planetmaker> which allow somewhat arbitrary ground tiles 16:57:32 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: only industries? 16:57:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd15b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:57:42 <planetmaker> so far: yes 16:57:45 <Ammler> maybe also objects does allow that? 16:57:53 <planetmaker> no, not as station 16:58:02 <Ammler> ah indeed 17:02:26 *** Milo [~Milo@173-18-255-216.client.mchsi.com] has joined #openttd 17:07:05 *** guru3_ is now known as guru3 17:19:03 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:21:12 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 17:21:34 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 17:23:47 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@45.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]] 17:25:35 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 17:25:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 17:30:38 *** fjb is now known as Guest2264 17:30:39 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE683.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:34:48 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 17:35:07 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35:16 *** Maedhros [~d417gm@crystal-gauss.chem.dur.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:36:33 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 17:37:54 *** Guest2264 [~frank@p5DDFD167.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:41:41 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fetzig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:42:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:49:11 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF935A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:06:50 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:07:55 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 18:22:06 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 18:24:18 *** Lakie is now known as Guest2270 18:24:19 *** Lakie` is now known as Lakie 18:29:01 *** Guest2270 [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:50 *** Milo [~Milo@173-18-255-216.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 18:44:42 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6FB92.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:30 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: translators * r21931 /trunk/src/lang/vietnamese.txt: 18:45:30 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:30 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: vietnamese - 81 changes by myquartz 18:50:46 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 18:51:29 <IchGuckLive> Hi all ,what happens to the vehicles if they run out of the years ? 18:51:46 <IchGuckLive> will they stop at the depo or break down ? 18:52:00 <Markk> Depends. 18:52:12 <Markk> If you have vehicle breakdowns on, yes. 18:52:20 <IchGuckLive> or shoudt i considder to renew them years bevore 18:52:20 <Markk> They will break down more and more often. 18:52:58 <IchGuckLive> 260 trains 120 car 18:53:12 <IchGuckLive> thats alot of work 18:53:38 <Markk> They can renew themself. 18:53:53 <Markk> If you activate it and put some depots here and there. 18:53:58 <IchGuckLive> oh got to find this in wiki 18:54:22 <IchGuckLive> its in the settings ? 18:54:49 <Markk> Yes 18:54:52 <Markk> Can check where 18:55:05 <IchGuckLive> il find it 18:55:40 <Markk> Advanced Settings -> Vehicles -> Autorenew. 18:56:05 <IchGuckLive> thanks 18:56:11 <IchGuckLive> got it already 19:00:07 <IchGuckLive> one more Question in the Trailer there are 2 tracks without stations at the cole mine to the left ,WHAT are this for ? 19:00:31 <IchGuckLive> yust spacing to the city 19:01:39 <Markk> Which trailer? 19:01:49 <Eddi|zuHause> it doesn't have any purpose 19:01:53 <Eddi|zuHause> Markk: the intro game 19:02:20 <IchGuckLive> thanks and bye 19:02:36 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f72613b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:37 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100423140709]] 19:03:00 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.182.119] has joined #openttd 19:03:01 <Markk> Eddi|zuHause: Ah 19:03:04 <Markk> That one :) 19:03:18 <DanMacK> hey andy 19:03:19 <andythenorth> DanMacK: interesting freighter :P 19:03:24 <DanMacK> Isn't it though 19:03:29 <andythenorth> I can't think what cargo that would be :) 19:03:48 <DanMacK> well, I'd say Vehicles... 19:04:01 <DanMacK> but there's no vehicle chain in FIRS :P 19:04:25 <andythenorth> I can't think where steam locomotives would be delivered to :P 19:05:34 <DanMacK> yeah... a harbour maybe... 19:08:00 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6FB92.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:08:13 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:48 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:11:03 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 19:14:41 <planetmaker> [20:04] <DanMacK> but there's no vehicle chain in FIRS :P <-- some vehicles can perfectly well be farm supplies ;-) 19:15:12 <andythenorth> planetmaker: this one would be stretching that :) 19:15:12 <andythenorth> http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1246710 19:16:40 <planetmaker> :-D 19:24:56 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:42 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5DC6BE23.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:26:46 <Eddi|zuHause> does logging into steam take forever for anyone besides me? 19:28:19 * andythenorth is feeling grumpy 19:28:21 <andythenorth> and ranty 19:28:34 <Eddi|zuHause> (i mean that question seriously) 19:29:29 <Terkhen> Eddi|zuHause: it took a bit more seconds than usual but it logged in fine for me 19:30:00 <Eddi|zuHause> Terkhen: it seems to be done now, but it took way more than a minute for me... 19:30:21 *** starn [~starn@adsl-68-90-156-237.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #openttd 19:30:35 <starn> Hello, everyone 19:30:58 <Terkhen> hi starn 19:31:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no comparative data on whether it's because of my relatively low connection bandwidth, or because i'm running wine, or something else... 19:31:32 <starn> how are you Terkhen? 19:32:16 <starn> openttd and opendune makes me want opensimfarm and opensimearth and others ahahaha :P 19:32:48 <Terkhen> Eddi|zuHause: right now I tried on windows, when I log in under wine it needs more time 19:43:39 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.6.141] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45:41 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.6.141] has joined #openttd 19:48:12 <ccfreak2k> Eddi|zuHause, slow all the time? 19:48:30 <Eddi|zuHause> ccfreak2k: pretty much, but this time it was kinda extreme 19:49:12 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 19:56:38 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.197.143] has quit [Quit: Don't follow me] 20:00:13 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:02:59 <Zuu> lol, I added soo many rail/road level crossings in my last title game without even thinking about that they can be noisy. 20:03:58 <ccfreak2k> dingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingding 20:04:08 <frosch123> hmm, when loading a tto game... two-way signals only is a pain :s 20:05:34 <Zuu> well, I didn't even hear a single ding dong with OpenGFX. (I didn't use my hearing aids and my high frequecy hearing is about 40dB worse than lower ferquecies. :-p 20:18:34 <planetmaker> well. OpenGFX has no sounds ;-) 20:18:43 <planetmaker> You need to turn them on by using a sound set :-P 20:24:15 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-170-123.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:24:32 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27:45 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21932 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Document: some tidbits related to vehicles 20:31:25 *** Fenris2 [~fenris@p5DC6BE23.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:32:19 *** Fenris3 [~fenris@p5DC6BE23.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:10 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:38:13 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5DC6BE23.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:52 <DanMacK> Frosch, that brings back memories... lol 20:39:30 *** Fenris2 [~fenris@p5DC6BE23.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:40:21 * DanMacK remembers trying to build complex networks in TTO 20:42:12 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc0c96.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:44:42 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: frosch * r21933 /trunk/src/ (17 files in 3 dirs): 20:44:42 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Split cur_order_index into cur_auto_order_index and cur_real_order_index to keep track of the current real order in an unambiguous way. 20:44:42 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#4440]: Automatic orders behave now stable wrt. service orders and are not added or removed depending on the need of servicing. 20:44:42 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: -Fix: Various other issues with automatic orders, e.g. vehicles getting stuck with "no orders" when there are automatic orders at the end of the order list. 20:47:21 <perk11> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=927805#p927805 <--- err. wtf? 20:47:22 <perk11> lol 20:48:24 <frosch123> oh, windows knows 'localhost' these days? 20:48:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i actually managed to build one-way rails using two-way signals back then ;) 20:48:51 <perk11> it's been a while since it knew it 20:49:32 <perk11> Eddi|zuHause: how? 20:56:14 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: frosch * r21934 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r21933): The original plan was to run the regression before committing. 20:57:08 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:01:12 <Prof_Frink> I remember the main annoyance being no signals on diagonal track 21:07:23 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.197.143] has joined #openttd 21:12:24 <Terkhen> I did not even know about signals back then 21:20:49 * DanMacK learned by watching the AI :P 21:21:46 <Terkhen> didn't you end up with a compulsion to terraform with no reason? 21:22:28 <frosch123> :p 21:23:36 <DanMacK> sometimes... lol 21:24:02 <Terkhen> :D 21:26:01 * DanMacK thinks turnouts need to show the direction they're for 21:33:48 <Wolf01> http://wiki.daviddarts.com/PirateBox interesting 21:39:08 *** Fenris3 [~fenris@p5DC6BE23.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:51:05 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc0c96.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:29 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:07 <Wolf01> 'night 22:04:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host218-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:09:45 <andythenorth> good night 22:09:46 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.182.119] has left #openttd [] 22:15:07 *** mib_r8h2dk [5472b1fc@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:15:12 *** mib_r8h2dk [5472b1fc@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [] 22:15:28 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:15:35 <Nite> Hi 22:16:14 <Nite> is anyone thinking of a reworked service/breakdown system atm? 22:17:26 <SmatZ> hi, I don't think so 22:17:32 <Zuu> planetmaker: I ment to say OpenSFX :-D 22:19:29 <Nite> ottd is a silent game for me, all noises are muted always 22:20:08 <frosch123> night 22:20:14 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd15b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:42 <Nite> have to go cya 22:23:44 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip3.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 22:26:02 <Terkhen> good night 22:39:08 <planetmaker> hehe, Zuu :-) 22:39:35 <planetmaker> good night though. 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