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00:01:18 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:16:15 <rane> what's the ratio between mail production and passenger production in a city 00:16:27 <rane> is it something like 1 bag of mail per 3 passengers? 00:23:53 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8942.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:37:44 <Yexo> it depends on the house 00:44:16 <rane> but there's must be some magic number city-wide 00:44:32 <rane> assuming all cities have certain percentage of centres, suburbs and office buildings 00:45:20 <supermop> that would depend on the house set 00:48:32 <Yexo> generate a new game with several big cities and take a look at the city window after a few months 00:48:42 <Yexo> easy to get a ballpark number yourself that way 00:58:13 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 01:06:59 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.11.184.238] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 01:10:28 <welshdragon> can anybody see the server 86.25.231.227 01:10:38 <welshdragon> running 1.1.0RC1 01:21:47 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-132-1.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:21:48 <glx> check the servers page 01:22:01 <glx> if it's not there, nobody will see it 01:23:00 <welshdragon> problem solved 01:23:28 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:25:48 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:48:00 <Nite> rane 01:48:26 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:48:53 <Nite> mail to pax is roughly 1 to 4 with vanilla towns 01:49:29 <Nite> 1 to 3 is not enough when towns grow 1 to 4 is almost to much 01:50:08 <Nite> what i do is 1 to 3 on every train - and having one or two mail only trains ... 01:52:20 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:53:29 <Nite> i tiyped rubbish 01:54:00 <Nite> roughly 1 to 3 01:54:11 <Nite> 2 to 3 is too much 01:54:25 <Nite> waht i do is the same 01:54:34 <Nite> btu i geuss he isnt there anyway ;) 01:54:58 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-157-024.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:55:36 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-157-024.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 01:56:13 *** kampasky [pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined #openttd 01:57:18 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:59:18 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-157-024.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:59:39 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-157-024.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:12:02 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 02:31:16 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3F97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 02:48:45 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480034.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 02:59:03 *** Pikka 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<__ln__> andythenorth: @439 09:45:55 * andythenorth forgot to stay away from suggestions forum :( 09:47:39 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:34 <planetmaker> nice improvement on the lime kiln, andythenorth :-) 10:00:45 <andythenorth> I am getting a bit obsessed with it :P 10:00:56 <planetmaker> :-P 10:02:23 <andythenorth> I am slowly improving FIRS graphics 10:02:28 <andythenorth> the lighting is wrong in many of them 10:02:47 <andythenorth> and I've understand more how SF drew originals 10:04:12 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@zomg.dongues.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:15 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@zomg.dongues.com] has joined #openttd 10:11:33 <planetmaker> hehe 10:12:02 <planetmaker> and let's hope for the snow that frosch's layout-extension is soonish finished ;-) 10:12:11 <planetmaker> hm... or is it already? 10:13:29 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14:05 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 10:14:34 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@zomg.dongues.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:16:11 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@zomg.dongues.com] has joined #openttd 10:16:54 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:18:06 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:20:17 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:20:31 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:21:21 <andythenorth> planetmaker: I am hoping for FIRS that the extended tile spec is in some 1.1.x variant 10:21:30 <andythenorth> it would be handy as FIRS requires 1.1 anyway 10:22:00 <andythenorth> it's not something either where backward compatibility can be maintained 10:22:07 <planetmaker> well... 1.1 is the minimum but it'd be a bit of a hassle to have to skip it for now in order to keep it 10:22:08 <planetmaker> yes 10:25:26 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26:41 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:39:31 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@115.240.32.84] has joined #openttd 10:39:39 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:46 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:45:02 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:45:13 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 10:45:53 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.242.23.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:59 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 10:46:03 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 11:12:01 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 11:18:41 *** green-devil 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<perk11> planetmaker: when does the second round of voting for title screen starts? 12:26:47 <perk11> and who are the winners of the first? 12:27:30 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@115.240.32.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:58 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cc24c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:26 <planetmaker> perk11, the 2nd round will start somewhen tomorrow when also the final standings of the 1st round will be announced. 12:29:32 <perk11> ok 12:29:42 <perk11> thank you 12:29:43 <planetmaker> As March 1st is not history yet, votes are not closed ;-) 12:29:48 *** Muddy [~muddy@playing.OpenTTD.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:37:00 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:41:39 *** fjb is now known as Guest3101 12:41:40 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFED75.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:42:04 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:47:33 *** 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 13:34:12 *** DayDreamer1 [~pouzara@80.95.101.194] has joined #openttd 13:38:30 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.103.248] has joined #openttd 13:39:03 * andythenorth ponders pros and cons of splitting HEQS in two 13:44:59 <planetmaker> what parts? 13:47:30 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 13:50:06 <andythenorth> trams + the rest 13:50:32 <andythenorth> I like a set to be either clearly an add-on (not a main set), or a main set 13:50:36 <andythenorth> FISH and FIRS are clear 13:50:40 <andythenorth> HEQS is confused 13:50:54 <andythenorth> I'm playing a game where trams are the main transport 1850-1930 13:56:35 <Belugas> hello 13:56:39 <andythenorth> quak 13:56:41 <andythenorth> hmm 13:56:43 <andythenorth> wrong animal 13:57:04 *** DayDreamer1 [~pouzara@80.95.101.194] has left #openttd [] 13:58:17 <Ammler> peep maybe 13:59:04 <Ammler> andythenorth: it wouldn't hurt, if you could disable the other part 13:59:35 <andythenorth> I also think players don't really know what HEQS is 14:01:07 <Noldo> bzzz 14:03:26 *** DayDreamer1 [~pouzara@80.95.101.194] has joined #openttd 14:03:30 *** DayDreamer1 [~pouzara@80.95.101.194] has left #openttd [] 14:04:43 <planetmaker> andythenorth, what is? 14:05:36 <andythenorth> ? 14:06:46 <Noldo> Heavy Equipment SEt 14:06:51 <planetmaker> what is HEQS in your eyes? 14:07:19 <andythenorth> add on set 14:07:26 <andythenorth> quirky / esoteric vehicles 14:07:29 <andythenorth> mostly useful, not entirely 14:07:42 <andythenorth> and also road / rail (and in future) sea / air 14:07:42 <planetmaker> for me it's an add-on set mostly for eye candy and vehicles for (very) short routes which can supply a feeder stations from nearby industries 14:07:54 <andythenorth> yes 14:07:58 <andythenorth> that's it 14:08:27 <andythenorth> but in early games trams are the main transportation for me 14:08:28 <andythenorth> danmack is finding same 14:08:38 <andythenorth> which argues towards a new set 14:08:46 <planetmaker> :-) They are powerful early on 14:08:55 <planetmaker> why does it do so? 14:08:59 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 14:09:04 <andythenorth> not eye candy or feeders? 14:09:17 <andythenorth> also - I know what's planned for development :D 14:09:26 <andythenorth> there are two more steam trams waiting to go in, quite large 14:09:32 <andythenorth> plus diesel and horse trams 14:10:09 * andythenorth tries painting some FIRS factory doors yellow and black 14:10:15 <andythenorth> it will suck - and isn't TTD style 14:10:19 <andythenorth> but worth trying 14:10:21 <planetmaker> I don't quite see the need for a split on grounds that some vehicles are actually useful. 14:10:54 <planetmaker> useful for different things than short feeder routes 14:11:09 <planetmaker> If people use a tram as long-distance vehicle - it's a game, let them 14:11:22 <andythenorth> I don't mind how they use it :) 14:11:38 <andythenorth> but it might be confusing what the set is for - in players minds? 14:12:07 <planetmaker> well. What *could* make sense is to split-off the trams into a separate "early trams" set or alike 14:12:30 <andythenorth> that's what I'm thinking - from a player point of view 14:12:31 <andythenorth> for me, keeping them as one is way easier - making 2 means 200% of the current release cycle work 14:12:35 <planetmaker> as it can also be argued that trams hardly count as 'heavy equipment' 14:13:40 <andythenorth> ach 14:13:48 <andythenorth> in US speak it might 14:14:07 <andythenorth> heavy equipment seems to mean > size of a hand shovel 14:21:25 *** mitooo [~mitooo@AOrleans-151-1-81-201.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #openttd [Quitte] 14:21:50 <planetmaker> lol 14:24:00 * andythenorth ponders more 14:24:06 <andythenorth> should I remove Alcohol from FIRS? 14:25:15 <planetmaker> IMHO not. 14:25:38 <planetmaker> he has some point, but I don't think it's a strong enough point 14:25:58 <planetmaker> it's a fun cargo 14:26:11 <planetmaker> and it has a good chain. 14:26:34 <andythenorth> it will make more sense if a pub/restaurant industry is added 14:26:46 <andythenorth> and maybe some acceptance is shifted around 14:27:02 <andythenorth> then some towns will need food only, some alcohol only, some food + alcohol 14:27:12 <andythenorth> if every town just needs food, it's a bit meh 14:27:21 <andythenorth> and needs no thinking about chains - just ship to nearest town 14:28:08 <andythenorth> my current game was short of Stores, and food is one of highest paying cargos, so I had to think a lot about which chains to build 14:31:39 <ccfreak2k> Alcohol trucks swerve all over the road. 14:31:39 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:08 <Eddi|zuHause> make alcohol abuse TE_WATER ;) 14:32:33 <ccfreak2k> Idea for a fourth theme: 14:32:36 <planetmaker> TE_WATER? 14:32:40 <ccfreak2k> Water is beer, land is beer nuts. 14:32:43 <ccfreak2k> Or pretzles. 14:33:25 <planetmaker> oh, town effect 14:41:51 <planetmaker> andythenorth, nice reply in the FIRS thread. You should make that argument yours ;-) 14:43:32 <andythenorth> I'll do it pikka-style: choose not to see anything I don't agree with :) 14:45:37 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@115.240.67.102] has joined #openttd 14:45:57 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cc24c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:47:22 <rane> grtvs and fish seem so cool, what's their equivalent for planes? 14:48:32 <andythenorth_> av8 14:48:32 <andythenorth_> or planeset 14:48:32 <andythenorth_> both are good 14:48:46 <andythenorth_> I prefer AV8 - it seems to have more character 14:49:10 <andythenorth_> planeset is more "do we have all the world's planes yet?" 14:49:13 <andythenorth_> but both are fun 14:52:31 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.103.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:52:35 <welshdragon> I'm hosting a server over LAN that's accessible via internet and reset_company doesn't work, Ideas? 14:53:00 <planetmaker> rcon is required 14:53:15 <welshdragon> rcon doesn't work either 14:53:16 <planetmaker> and the proper company number 14:53:29 <planetmaker> which is not necessarily 1 14:53:35 <planetmaker> even if there's only one company 14:53:45 <welshdragon> rcon (password) reset_company 6 14:54:01 <Eddi|zuHause> miss the "" 14:54:14 <welshdragon> Oh 14:54:23 <welshdragon> it has to be in "" ? 14:55:37 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 14:55:37 *** George is now known as Guest3110 14:55:38 *** George|2 is now known as George 14:56:17 <Eddi|zuHause> might try www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/rcon3.diff (warning, mostly untested) 14:56:36 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/Dedicated_Servers 14:56:51 <welshdragon> "rcon (password) reset_company 6" command doesn't exist :( 14:56:58 <welshdragon> It's not a dedi 14:57:07 <planetmaker> rcon pw "command params" 14:57:19 <planetmaker> the wiki tells you 14:58:17 <welshdragon> ta planetmaker 14:59:47 <planetmaker> but indeed it's not the syntax which is 100% straight forward 15:00:43 *** Guest3110 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:02:57 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebu198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 15:04:38 *** ar3k [~ident@ebu198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:08:37 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm68.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:09:01 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 15:24:06 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:16 <Terkhen> planetmaker: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2099 <-- there is a bug with arctic/temperate banks which I already solved locally (silly mistake, they produce instead of accepting) 15:26:52 <Terkhen> the required code additions grew bigger and bigger as I coded :) 15:30:54 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:33:46 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cc24c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35:38 *** green-devil [~Lisby@h195.natout.aau.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:36:05 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cc24c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:19 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.0.232] has joined #openttd 15:51:24 <planetmaker> hm, without going through the details, that reads quite well :-) 15:52:26 <planetmaker> can you possibly remind me tomorrow or the day after, I'll gladly step through that? Today my schedule is a bit tight, though 15:55:36 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@115.240.67.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:59:35 <Terkhen> no problem :) 16:10:27 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-220-151.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:21:46 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has joined #openttd 16:24:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A0C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:34:36 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34:41 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF895F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:16 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:46:25 <supermop> hello 16:46:48 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0a2942.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:50:56 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@115.242.77.48] has joined #openttd 16:51:41 *** perk111 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 16:57:04 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:21 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.0.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:10 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff721.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:03:53 * andythenorth_ has managed to create a really horrible moire pattern in FIRS pixels :( 17:05:02 <Scuddles> yuck 17:06:07 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm68.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 17:07:28 <supermop> nice! 17:10:02 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm68.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 17:14:38 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: bbml] 17:22:52 *** ar3k [~ident@ebu198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:22:59 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-088-067-068-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:23 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebu198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:25 <andythenorth_> bye 17:30:25 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@115.242.77.48] has left #openttd [] 17:34:11 <Belugas> breath in 17:34:14 <Belugas> breath out 17:41:23 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:42:21 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:02:07 *** v3rb0_ [~v3rb0@78.84.201.137] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:23 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cc24c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:07:59 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 18:07:59 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. 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19:42:52 <supermop> there is not really a broad generic train set yet 19:43:06 <Eddi|zuHause> 2ccset? 19:43:24 <supermop> but 2cc set provide a good variety of locomotives based on real prototypes 19:43:25 <Eddi|zuHause> most other sets are based around one single country... 19:44:59 <rane> i will check 2cc out 19:45:04 <rane> i like the default set tbh 19:45:19 <rane> but it lacks variety a bit in some parts 19:45:38 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a simple set that just adds cargo support to the default wagons 19:46:11 <Yexo> you could try ogfx-trains 19:46:21 <supermop> i was just going to say that 19:46:31 <Yexo> it's basically the default vehicle set with a bit more variety and support for more cargos 19:52:19 <rane> cool:-) 19:53:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i find the speed limit boring ever since i played with freight speed limits 19:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause> bÀh 19:53:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i find the default set boring ever since i played with freight speed limits 19:54:40 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:55:20 <rane> i find default speed limit boring even though i haven't played with freight limits:-) 19:55:39 <rane> 2cc looks more like sth i wanted to add 19:55:47 <rane> real trains, many of them so there's more choice and variety 19:56:08 <rane> am i right there are no plans to add more things to vanilla? :-) 19:56:34 <Eddi|zuHause> correct. 19:57:03 <rane> 2cc even has actual TGVs 19:57:10 <rane> lol even the one that goes 500km/h 19:57:21 <Eddi|zuHause> rane: this would require the devs to decide to favour one extension set over all others 19:57:31 <Eddi|zuHause> which they are not going to do 19:58:50 <rane> why not 19:58:53 <rane> they are devs 19:59:05 <rane> being arbitrary is part of their job description 19:59:24 <Yexo> so we arbitrary decide to keep the default vehicle set as it is :) 20:00:33 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:01:12 <rane> see 20:01:15 <rane> exactly my point 20:01:20 <rane> 2cc ruins mono-rail and maglev! 20:01:51 <Eddi|zuHause> rane: play it with nutracks 20:06:02 <rane> this doesn't add anything except slowing normal trains down a bit 20:06:23 <rane> i mean nerf-wise 20:06:33 <rane> maglev and monorail still are bad 20:07:58 <Eddi|zuHause> that wasn't really my point 20:25:44 <rane> no more hauling coal at 600 km/h either 20:28:28 <perk11> there are not much sets which make use of maglev and monorail, and those which do use maglev for passengers only 20:29:02 <perk11> that's how it works in real life, but I don't always want real life in the game 20:29:32 <rane> most of 2cc is oriented at passengers 20:30:13 <supermop> you could buy a ticket on the shanghai maglev and pack your suitcase full of coal 20:30:48 <rane> hmm 20:30:51 <Eddi|zuHause> and what industry buys coal in the range of "a few suitcases"? 20:32:21 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:36 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:35:24 <rane> i think that's how you buy cocaine 20:35:46 <rane> i like 2cc but it changes the game quite a lot 20:35:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:36:15 <frosch123> there are sets which try to change you :p 20:36:28 <grzywacz> a soviet russia set? 20:36:53 <frosch123> i do not know such a set 20:37:12 <frosch123> i remember there was a russian plane set 20:37:47 <grzywacz> No, I meant something along the lines of :in soviet russia a set changes you" 20:38:15 <frosch123> no, i meant the canadian set 20:41:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-4-135.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:46:05 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@249.111.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 20:46:37 *** ar3k [~ident@ebu198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 20:51:06 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@95-26-153-31.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:52:47 *** KritiK__ [~Maxim@89-178-172-91.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:54:13 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebu198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:55:02 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebu198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 20:56:36 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-4-135.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56:41 *** KritiK__ is now known as KritiK 20:56:56 *** Macha [~Macha@109.77.227.121] has joined #openttd 20:57:00 *** Macha [~Macha@109.77.227.121] has left #openttd [] 20:58:31 *** ar3k [~ident@ebu198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:36 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@95-26-153-31.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:05 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:20 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:07:40 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 21:09:36 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:12:43 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cc24c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:15 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 21:14:39 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@249.111.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 21:16:20 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@249.111.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 21:29:32 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:32:04 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 21:33:33 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 21:48:30 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:55:53 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:00:18 *** zydeco [~zydeco@163.165.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 22:00:26 <zydeco> greetings 22:03:00 <perk11> actually, there is soviet trains set, but it works under ttdpatch only 22:03:24 <perk11> and there is russian set too, but it's WIP 22:06:45 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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