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00:01:02 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 00:17:06 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:21:28 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:36:08 <alluke_> wooooou wooooou 00:43:07 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db1bab2.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 00:43:30 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d110-32-5-64.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:55:33 *** alluke_ [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:57:02 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-81-33.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 01:02:05 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8894.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:07:45 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:43 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:12:38 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:32 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.11.190.176] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 01:32:10 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: glx * r22191 /trunk/projects/ (3 files): -Fix: make sure table/settings.h is generated with MSVC2010, also fix a warning in version project 01:33:53 <supermop> interesting spam 01:38:09 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:38:21 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:40:13 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 01:42:04 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has joined #openttd 01:49:49 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 01:55:28 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-101-100.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:03:50 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:06:19 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC4B15.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 02:23:06 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27:13 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has joined #openttd 02:35:01 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480034.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 03:00:18 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.20.86] has joined #openttd 03:03:31 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.20.86] has quit [] 03:08:09 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480034.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 03:21:25 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d110-32-5-64.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.14/20110218125750]] 03:26:40 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-188-100-221-248.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:31:46 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-188-100-211-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:57:29 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 04:05:03 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:90c7:7d25:96bf:c4e9] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:14:29 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.18.203.82] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 04:16:32 *** nicfer [~Administr@190.50.35.176] has joined #openttd 04:16:59 <nicfer> hi everyone awake 04:18:31 <Markk> Good evening to you sir/madam. 04:19:14 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 04:19:36 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.18.203.82] has joined #openttd 04:42:53 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep] 04:50:26 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 04:56:55 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@68-29-103-134.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:58 <mynetdude> aha 04:57:56 <Markk> Yep :) 04:59:17 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.242.21.154] has joined #openttd 05:00:50 <mynetdude> would there be any way or how about would it be easy to create a free for all play in OTTD? Like be able to setup your own towns, industries, etc and without money? 05:01:25 <mynetdude> I also noticed I read somewhere that the stable release 1.0.5 allows you to build under tracks, I have not been able to get htis to work 05:01:31 <mynetdude> htis/this 05:08:32 <nicfer> which grfs can I use for a passenger network game? 05:21:51 <avdg> mynetdude: you may not know the differences it made 05:23:22 <mynetdude> I'm sorry, what do you mean avdg? 05:23:56 <avdg> without that change, you couldn't build nearly anything, if you know what I mean 05:25:07 <mynetdude> no I don't know 05:25:33 <mynetdude> but I had the impression you could build under tracks does that mean without a bridge? 05:27:41 <avdg> you can still build bridgeramps 05:28:39 <mynetdude> yes I know you can build bridge/ramps but I was actually hooping to be able to build under tracks actually 05:28:47 <mynetdude> hooping/hoping 05:28:57 *** grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-78-180-180.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: :wq] 05:29:23 <avdg> well, the current model is already much better then the old one 05:29:26 <mynetdude> avdg but every time I do, it tells me "track in the way" or "you must remove track" 05:30:11 * mynetdude wants to start with a blank map like SimCity and I want to build all my indds, towns, etc 05:30:13 <avdg> you mean buildings and stuff? 05:30:27 <avdg> indeed thats not possible :p 05:30:34 <mynetdude> ah :( 05:30:36 <mynetdude> too bad 05:30:54 <avdg> its 1 step closer to lazyness :p 05:31:03 <mynetdude> what do you mean? 05:31:20 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 05:31:36 <avdg> not cleaning up stuff before building new stuff 05:32:03 <mynetdude> avdg oh you mean OTTD development? 05:32:11 <avdg> nah, ingame 05:34:28 <mynetdude> oh, clean up what? I'm not sure what you're talking about there's nothing to clean up, yeah sure there's always tons of improvising as you continue to build 05:35:34 <mynetdude> well personally I'd rather start with a blank map and play free for all without the game $$$ 05:35:47 <avdg> nvm 05:35:56 <mynetdude> or at least be allowed to start with 2 towns, and 2 matching industries 05:41:06 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 05:41:21 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.242.21.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B763C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74674.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:09:39 <mynetdude> have you ever seen 2 trains either opposing directions or same direction use the same platform at the same time at the same station in real life? 06:11:42 <avdg> yes, in the netherlands 06:12:05 <avdg> but their you have crosses between "sections" of a platform 06:25:37 *** nicfer [~Administr@190.50.35.176] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:28:10 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.242.53.37] has joined #openttd 06:36:15 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.242.53.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:47:50 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.3.190] has joined #openttd 06:48:18 <andythenorth> hello 06:51:01 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 06:51:09 <sla_ro|master> hello 06:51:21 <sla_ro|master> im running a server and i want to know where can i get a irc bot for it ? 06:51:34 <sla_ro|master> i like more remote control from irc 06:55:39 *** PeterT [PeterT@peter.tarkoy.com] has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 06:56:01 *** PeterT [PeterT@peter.tarkoy.com] has joined #openttd 06:56:56 <Rubidium> ap+? 06:57:05 <sla_ro|master> ? 06:57:15 <Rubidium> but that is known to not work with all versions of OpenTTD 06:57:26 <sla_ro|master> i have latest stable for windows 06:58:16 <Rubidium> that definitely makes setting up ap+ a lot harder 06:58:43 <sla_ro|master> whats ap+ ? 06:59:35 <Rubidium> something that bridges OpenTTD and IRC, which was what you were asking for, right? 06:59:46 <sla_ro|master> yep 06:59:54 <sla_ro|master> i need something to access on rcon my server 06:59:56 <sla_ro|master> from irc 07:02:34 <sla_ro|master> btw.. i tried to make a connection to server on tcp with the port of server and tried to send "rcon pass "command"" but not worked.. 07:06:02 <Rubidium> that won't work; that connection only allows those rcons after it's being fully logged in to the server 07:06:17 <sla_ro|master> ok 07:06:20 <Rubidium> and it's a somewhat binary format 07:07:03 <Rubidium> in the 1.1 release candidates/betas there's a port especially for bots that is simpler with respect to logging in and such 07:07:08 <sla_ro|master> eh.. i had send text to server 07:07:17 <sla_ro|master> ok 07:07:23 <Rubidium> but that protocol is also binary 07:07:53 <sla_ro|master> mIRC can convert text to binary, i was making the bot on mirc 07:14:04 * avdg wants to end the spamwar with http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8529206/Anti-Spam%20package.zip 07:21:59 <avdg> it should block anonymous users creating these pages 07:22:21 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:25:58 <Rubidium> and with these you mean "any", right? 07:26:18 <avdg> hopefully 07:26:23 <avdg> I've tested it locally 07:26:35 <avdg> actually, against this one 07:27:36 <avdg> logged in users can still create such pages, if that was your question 07:28:59 <Rubidium> but does it block just the creation of any page for anonymous people? 07:29:11 <avdg> nope 07:29:17 <sla_ro|master> where can i get expected packet for activetcl? 07:29:37 <avdg> its regex controlled 07:30:24 <Rubidium> well, for some reason those pages don't trigger the spam word list or the spam ip list 07:31:04 <avdg> yeah, and recaptcha doesn't work well 07:31:21 <Rubidium> it doesn't work for humans trying to enter them 07:32:39 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:33:20 <avdg> well, I hope that "botnet" doesn't change there way they form titles 07:33:31 <avdg> if they do, then we have to fight back 07:36:59 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-124-26.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 07:57:21 <andythenorth> funding FIRS industries is very expensive :o 07:58:46 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:58:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:06:50 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 08:11:35 <planetmaker> moin 08:15:50 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.3.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:18:36 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:27:25 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:30:01 *** ar3k [ident@ebr84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 08:30:06 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 08:37:12 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D761.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:43:20 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host103-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:48:21 <Wolf01> hello 08:48:59 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22192 /trunk/projects/openttd_vs80.sln: -Fix (r22188): MSVC 2005 64 bits didn't build settings(gen), and as such compilation failed 08:49:08 <__ln__> hello citizen of berlusconia 09:02:10 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC42A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:10:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.163.235] has joined #openttd 09:17:20 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@68-29-103-134.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6DA7.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:18:55 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@107.25.73.30] has joined #openttd 09:19:51 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B1065FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:30:30 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-124-26.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:32:49 <Terkhen> good morning 09:38:50 <planetmaker> hm... where's the NewObjects GUI? 09:39:40 <Alberth> landscape afaik 09:39:49 <planetmaker> there's no landscape_gui.cpp 09:40:41 <planetmaker> he, but an object_gui.cpp :-) 09:41:15 <Alberth> I just reached that conclusion too :) 09:42:23 <planetmaker> as usual: asking helped to find it oneself :-) Thanks 09:48:46 *** krinn [~krinn@98.227.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51:41 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.13.203] has joined #openttd 09:53:18 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 09:53:28 <andythenorth> hello 09:53:47 <planetmaker> moin andythenorth 09:54:44 <andythenorth> what are we doing? 09:55:23 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r22193 /trunk/src/cheat_gui.cpp: -Fix: Invalidate the object build window when using the date cheat 09:55:33 <planetmaker> cheating ^ 09:58:30 <Terkhen> hi andythenorth 10:04:32 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:05:03 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:09:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:10:15 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:11:04 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:11:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Yexo] by ChanServ 10:12:17 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22194 /trunk/src/table/ (7 files): -Codechange: use the defaults feature of settingsgen to remove the need to state the "default" value for all items 10:13:27 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22195 /trunk/Makefile.src.in: -Fix (r22188): make sure makedep picks up the newly generated settings.h so settings.cpp gets recompiled when needed 10:16:42 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:21:01 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22196 /trunk/src/table/ (7 files): -Codechange: use default values for the from and to of savegame versions as well 10:21:50 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-180-122.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:24:58 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-88-180.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:46:14 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d110-32-5-64.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:48:03 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22197 /trunk/src/table/ (8 files): 10:48:03 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: -Cleanup: remove the distinction between conditional and non-conditional 10:48:03 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: settings; with default from and to savegame versions all can be conditional. 10:48:03 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: They previously were as well; the non-conditional ones were macros of the 10:48:03 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: conditionals with to/from saveload versions hardcoded 10:49:27 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:56:35 *** michi_cc [~michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Quit: michi_cc] 11:01:01 *** MinchinWeb [4e7e283d@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:02:29 <MinchinWeb> is this the IRC channel to ask for help to create your own town list? 11:07:19 <Rubidium> there are at least some that can help you with it (or give you clues) 11:07:36 <Rubidium> though I'm not aware whether there is a channel really dedicated to town lists 11:07:57 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:10:14 <planetmaker> MinchinWeb: have a look at existing projects, like http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swisstowns 11:11:07 <Alberth> or http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/townnames 11:11:39 <planetmaker> any of those, yes :-) 11:11:59 <Ammler> swisstowns needs bash, that might be not start friendly 11:12:19 <planetmaker> Ammler: the others need bash + mingw :-P 11:12:33 <Ammler> dutchtowns is nml only 11:12:42 <planetmaker> oh, right :-) 11:13:00 <Alberth> Ammler: could 'compiler' also remove issues when its deletes the url with the error? 11:13:11 <Alberth> or copy the text into the issue or so? 11:13:49 <Ammler> yes, I would like that, at least a part of the error log like first 100 lines 11:14:13 *** DJNekkid [~djnekkid@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:15:03 *** DJNekkid [~djnekkid@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:15:09 <Ammler> current redmine isn't able to update issues with REST API, but newer will 11:15:47 <MinchinWeb> I was looking at the central page you mentioned and it suggested coming over to IRC... 11:15:52 <Ammler> but they are committing a log mercurial patches right now, so it is not that easy to update my mq right now ;-) 11:16:04 <Ammler> s/a log/a lot/ 11:16:05 <MinchinWeb> I'll look at the Swiss names... 11:16:53 <Ammler> MinchinWeb: which OS do you work with? 11:16:56 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22198 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: make some constants name more explicit 11:17:52 <MinchinWeb> I'm running Windows 7 11:17:59 <Ammler> if it is windows and you don't know bash, you should rather check projects without bash 11:18:06 <Ammler> like dutchtowns 11:20:50 <MinchinWeb> I can follow the Dutch project a lot better... 11:21:39 <MinchinWeb> So if I create a .NML file (which appears to be a text file), how do I turn that into a .GRF to use with the game? 11:22:13 <planetmaker> by using nmlc to compile it into a grf 11:22:18 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-224-238.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net] has quit [] 11:22:28 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/nml/raw-file/tip/docs/index.html 11:22:29 <Eddi|zuHause> MinchinWeb: download the nml compiler. http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=48891 11:23:54 *** PierreW [sbnc@bnc.peterbox.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:23:57 *** PierreW [sbnc@bnc.peterbox.net] has joined #openttd 11:24:18 <MinchinWeb> do I need to install Python? or is the nml compiler self contained? 11:24:28 <planetmaker> woah... DutchTowns has the grf in the repo and no license :S 11:24:39 <Terkhen> :( 11:24:50 <planetmaker> MinchinWeb: you need to install everything which is explained in the getting started section 11:25:10 <planetmaker> though there's a windows installer... let me search 11:25:33 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/1511/nml-win32-r1243.zip 11:25:45 <planetmaker> that should work mostly out of the box, I think 11:26:38 <MinchinWeb> ok, I'll play with it for a couple days and see how far I get 11:26:51 <MinchinWeb> Is there a suggested minimum number of names to provide? 11:27:32 <planetmaker> there is... the number of possible towns is limited by the amount of names you can provide 11:28:09 <planetmaker> so for a low amount it may fail to generate many on a big map... how many? a few dozen at least, I think; I know not the exact numbers 11:28:55 <MinchinWeb> so if you run out of names, does the map generator just stop adding towns? 11:29:29 <avdg> it seems it does here 11:29:51 <avdg> + that it iterates slower here 11:29:58 <planetmaker> MinchinWeb: it does, yes 11:30:08 <MinchinWeb> Ok, good to know 11:30:31 <MinchinWeb> is there somewhere I can download an offline version of the NML documentation? 11:30:55 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 11:31:36 <planetmaker> MinchinWeb: nml comes with documentation 11:31:50 <planetmaker> isn't there some in the zip? 11:31:51 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.11.190.176] has joined #openttd 11:32:50 <MinchinWeb> no, just an EXE and 6 PYD files, so unless it generates the documentation when you run it or something 11:34:16 <planetmaker> I really don't know what it generates. If not, then get the usual version from http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/LATEST/ , unzip and you'll find the documentation in the docs dir 11:34:44 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22199 /trunk/src/table/ (9 files): -Cleanup-ish: replace the shortcut macros for (gui)flags with their more clearly named (longer) constant names 11:35:27 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:35:29 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 11:36:40 <MinchinWeb> OK, I'll play with it and see what I can get. Thanks so much 11:37:18 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has joined #openttd 11:38:52 <planetmaker> you're welcome 11:40:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@212.183.128.47] has joined #openttd 11:54:30 <peter1138> http://ie6countdown.com/ 11:56:25 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-60-170.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:56:58 *** michi_cc [michi@2a01:4d0:114:77:37:19:40:2] has joined #openttd 11:57:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 11:57:25 *** Brianetta [~brian@212.183.128.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:11 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-180-122.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:12 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d110-32-5-64.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.14/20110218125750]] 12:02:48 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 12:04:00 <Terkhen> you can't kill nightmares, it will come back somehow 12:13:01 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 12:14:32 <planetmaker> can someone verify that http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?mode=view&id=141710 is not an installer for OpenTTD which comes with documentation / readme / license? 12:14:46 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db800b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:14:59 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:15:29 <DanMacK> Hey all 12:15:37 <Terkhen> planetmaker: let me check 12:15:47 <planetmaker> hi DanMacK 12:15:56 *** welshdragon [~dragon@anubis.millsie.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:16:12 <Alberth> DanMacK: all sends you his greetings 12:16:33 *** welshdragon_ [~dragon@anubis.millsie.net] has joined #openttd 12:16:55 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 12:17:17 <MinchinWeb> Ok another question - how do you get a GRFID? 12:18:11 <planetmaker> choose one. Just don't use one which is being used by another 12:18:18 <planetmaker> There's unfortunately no comprehensive list 12:18:39 <Yexo> planetmaker: are you sure it's an installer at all? 12:18:47 <planetmaker> The usual guide is to use something like your initials and then a grf-specific number. Like 0 for your first grf 12:18:59 <Yexo> looks like a zip with a (renamed) openttd.exe inside 12:19:00 <planetmaker> Yexo: I don't know at all what it is. I suspect it's a plain binary without anything extra 12:19:01 <Terkhen> planetmaker: since it triggers a No available language packs error, I doubt it is even an installer 12:19:17 <planetmaker> ok. Then I'll tell him about the rules :-). Thanks 12:19:44 <MinchinWeb> Planetmaker: is the GRFID alphanumeric or hex? 12:19:59 <Alberth> hex 12:20:36 <Alberth> although you can make an alphanumeric grfid using hex as well :) 12:23:25 <Eddi|zuHause> MinchinWeb: it's basically 4 letters, but can also be a 4-byte-number 12:23:50 <planetmaker> MinchinWeb: it's anything which goes as 4-bytes 12:24:52 <Eddi|zuHause> MinchinWeb: the convention was to use your initials and then a number determining which of your grfs it is, and which version. but the version thing is obsolete meanwhile 12:26:12 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:32:04 <MinchinWeb> So can you have a string of as many hex 'characters' as you want or are you limited to three (and exactly three)? 12:32:56 <planetmaker> a grfID is exactly 4 bytes 12:33:09 <planetmaker> not more. not less 12:35:07 <alluke> shit 12:35:12 <alluke> i accidentally gravedug 12:35:27 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:35:27 <planetmaker> you can always delete your postings 12:35:34 <planetmaker> if no one answered (yet) 12:35:35 <alluke> dunno is it necessary 12:35:42 <alluke> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=49736&p=933714#p933714 12:35:53 <planetmaker> depends on the kind of day Hyronymus had 12:36:47 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:36:56 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 12:42:20 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@115.242.119.172] has joined #openttd 12:42:49 *** MinchinWeb [4e7e283d@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:42:59 *** Strid_ [~Strid@c-ee80e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:43:15 *** Strid_ [~Strid@c-ee80e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 12:43:50 <DanMacK> Hey Andy 12:45:41 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.13.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:45:45 <planetmaker> alluke: that's not a grave dig 12:45:49 <planetmaker> that's adding content 12:45:52 <alluke> ah 12:45:53 <alluke> ok 12:46:01 <alluke> i thought so because the last post was old 12:46:53 <Yexo> it doesn't matter if the last post is old as long as you add something useful to the topic, which you clearly did 12:46:56 <alluke> does.@user have any effect 12:56:04 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:01:50 *** FloSoft [bouncer@www.siedler25.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:01:51 *** FloSoft [bouncer@www.siedler25.org] has joined #openttd 13:02:00 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db800b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:05:46 *** hoax [U2FsdGVkX1@dhcp-077-249-151-209.chello.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:05:47 *** hoax [U2FsdGVkX1@dhcp-077-249-151-209.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:08:55 <alluke> i think rivers and lighthouses should be able to build in-game 13:15:21 <planetmaker> alluke: thanks for the translation. I guess there are now enough to warrant a new release with translation updates 13:15:42 <alluke> no 13:15:44 <alluke> np* 13:18:14 <alluke> is it possible to add ore roadtypes like nutracks 13:18:26 <alluke> more* 13:19:13 <andythenorth_> no 13:19:16 <planetmaker> there are no road types yet 13:19:16 <andythenorth_> maybe one day 13:19:24 <andythenorth_> it's too hard for me 13:19:26 <alluke> ok 13:19:33 <alluke> screw it 13:19:33 <andythenorth_> no-one else wants to work on it :D 13:19:40 <alluke> :D 13:19:53 <alluke> why dont you put up recruit topic 13:20:19 <Alberth> alluke: that is called 'suggestion forum' :p 13:20:33 <alluke> okay 13:21:04 <planetmaker> everyone is free to work on that feature s/he likes 13:21:37 <planetmaker> or come here and ask for suggestions of what <whoever> would like to see most urgently in the game and s/he could grind his/her teeth on 13:21:51 <Terkhen> features like this one would be made faster if we used conscription 13:22:12 <planetmaker> "conscription"? 13:22:38 <Alberth> first make a new feature before allowed to play :) 13:22:47 <planetmaker> like announce "we want features a) b) and c)"? 13:22:50 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:09 <Terkhen> forced recruitment for working in features 13:23:23 <planetmaker> hm... :-P 13:23:29 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 13:23:35 <planetmaker> s/military service/openttd coding service/? ;-) 13:23:43 <Terkhen> :) 13:23:55 <Alberth> I have some doubt it would be productive :p 13:24:03 <planetmaker> at your service, general Terkhen :-P 13:24:12 <Terkhen> probably as productive as forced military service was 13:24:20 <planetmaker> hehe, yeah 13:24:25 <Terkhen> :P 13:24:59 * Alberth played with DB3 while in military service :) 13:26:38 <planetmaker> ;-) 13:26:50 * planetmaker made the first experience with how to behave as BOFH there 13:27:30 * planetmaker was having fun sending shut-down messages to all repair workshops in the evenings to rush their daily reports :-P 13:28:06 <Alberth> :D 13:28:24 <Alberth> hmm, how to get the next value of an iterator in Python? 13:28:37 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@zomg.dongues.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:31:15 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:32:03 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:35:54 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:39:03 *** dfox_ [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:39:03 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:40:52 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:40:55 *** luckz [~lkz@luckz.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:41:09 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:41:53 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:42:14 <alluke> shit 13:42:18 <alluke> did anyone message it 13:42:20 <alluke> me 13:42:33 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:42:43 <Terkhen> @logs 13:42:43 <DorpsGek> Terkhen: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd 13:46:14 <planetmaker> alluke: you can get an update with your translation now from bananas 13:47:04 <andythenorth_> Alberth: did you get an answer to your python question? 13:48:24 <Alberth> no, but I created a solution with try/except: http://www.fpaste.org/M79e/ 13:48:42 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 13:49:54 <andythenorth_> Alberth: some people think the try, then say sorry route is wrong :) 13:50:04 <alluke> ok 13:50:11 <andythenorth_> there is actually a valid argument that it is wrong 13:50:16 <andythenorth_> and a valid argument that it isn't :P 13:51:18 <Alberth> I agree it is wrong, but I don't know how to test for the end otherwise :( 13:51:41 <andythenorth_> so you can't do a 'for i in' here? 13:52:27 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: what's wrong with .next()? 13:52:47 <Alberth> no, I want to get new lines at several points in the program 13:53:00 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: does that not throw exceptions? 13:53:23 <Alberth> otherwise nothing probably 13:53:26 <Eddi|zuHause> it throws StopIteration if it's the last item 13:53:44 <Alberth> one further, but yeah :) 13:53:56 <Alberth> I don't want that 13:55:52 <Eddi|zuHause> so what exactly are you trying to do= 13:56:28 <Alberth> parse a diff 13:57:01 <alluke> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdqi45iDYpk 13:57:16 <Alberth> ie look for +++ and ---, then for @@ then read some lines, and repeat either @@ or +++/--- 13:57:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and what speaks against making a real parser with ply? 13:58:08 <Alberth> non context freeness ? 13:58:27 <Eddi|zuHause> what's not context free there? 13:58:50 <Alberth> that's the point, it isn't 13:58:51 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:59:18 <Alberth> also, a real parser is overkill for the simple line-based format 13:59:46 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: smatz * r22200 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r21642): removing a station order could stop when removing first automatic order 13:59:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm still not sure what you need "unget" for 14:00:31 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:00:31 <Eddi|zuHause> neither am i sure why you need to return None instead of throwing an exception 14:00:41 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 14:00:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 14:01:29 <Alberth> at the end, I don't know whether I will get a @@ or a new ++/--- until I have read the line. But then jumping back to point that deals with it breaks, as you cannot read that line any more 14:02:05 <Eddi|zuHause> aha, so you need a lookahead line 14:02:23 <Alberth> hmm, perhaps @@ always comes immediately after the previous chunk ? 14:03:09 <Eddi|zuHause> so you need separate top() and pop() functions 14:03:29 <Alberth> what are those? 14:03:56 <Alberth> oh, some alternative look-ahead probably :) 14:03:59 <Eddi|zuHause> those are "stack" functions 14:04:19 <Eddi|zuHause> top() looks at the topmost element of the stack, without removing it 14:04:23 <Alberth> a single line should be sufficient :) 14:04:28 <Eddi|zuHause> and pop() looks at the element and removes it 14:05:12 <Alberth> yes, that would be a valid solution too 14:05:29 <Eddi|zuHause> so you need a wrapper around the file-iterator that stores the last line, and in the code you use different functions depending on wether you know you'll never need the line again, or whether you want to keep it 14:06:16 <Eddi|zuHause> you skip the dubious "unget" function 14:07:39 <Alberth> look ahead is also possible, but it costs 2 calls to remove unwanted lines 14:08:04 <Alberth> while 'unget' is only used once you have found the line you want to keep. 14:08:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, the extra call is swapped 14:09:07 <Eddi|zuHause> currently you call "unget" when you want to keep a line, in the other case you call "pop" when you want to not keep it 14:11:03 <Eddi|zuHause> gtg 14:11:24 <Alberth> bye 14:13:49 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:e538:ca75:2607:c9c2] has joined #openttd 14:13:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:29:08 *** Krusen^ [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has joined #openttd 14:33:01 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:50 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has joined #openttd 14:34:25 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:35:20 *** ar3kaw [ident@ebr84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 14:37:15 *** Krusen^ [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f69ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:00 <alluke> whats the party square grf 14:43:23 *** fjb is now known as Guest3651 14:43:24 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFF924.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:43:45 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db800b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:09 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:49:09 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 14:50:27 *** Guest3651 [~frank@p5DDFD9BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:52:45 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db800b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:55:11 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@115.242.119.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:59:44 *** luckz [~lkz@luckz.de] has joined #openttd 15:08:48 *** snorre [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 15:14:50 <Zuu> alluke: Possible a statue/park replacement. 15:15:03 <Zuu> It was probably for wwottgd(2) 15:16:35 <Zuu> wwottdgd* 15:17:27 <dihedral> yep - right on 15:17:50 <dihedral> i think it replaced the fountain though ;-) 15:19:44 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:31:43 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.99.246] has joined #openttd 15:41:34 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:42:13 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 15:54:20 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:54:21 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@82.95.127.26] has joined #openttd 15:54:50 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@107.25.73.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:05 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@184-195-25-238.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #openttd 16:02:33 *** ar3k [~ident@ebr84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 16:02:36 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 16:04:58 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:06:26 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:08:45 *** Wilberforce [~wilberfor@83.170.81.66] has joined #openttd 16:12:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a sociological survey for you: (don't answer in here!, to not spoil the results, send a query) how many lives does a cat have? 16:25:23 <Eddi|zuHause> (so far, one message received. will leave this question open 24 hours) 16:29:45 <Wilberforce> Erm, seriously?? 16:29:55 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it's an experiment. 16:30:20 <Wilberforce> M'kay... 16:31:43 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:32:11 <supermop> good morning 16:32:50 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.99.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:08 <Terkhen> hi supermop 16:35:09 <DanMacK> Morning yourself 16:35:40 <supermop> how is everyone? 16:36:27 <Terkhen> fine, thanks :) 16:37:17 <supermop> goog good 16:37:21 <supermop> *good 16:38:45 <planetmaker> hi supermop 16:43:10 <supermop> hi planetmaker 16:43:26 <supermop> my grf is more or less working now! 16:43:44 <supermop> with just a couple exceptions, but I have a work around 16:50:33 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Pohodlné vykecávánÃ. Odkudkoliv.] 16:50:52 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 16:54:38 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 16:54:41 <alluke> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z36KFNLLj2w 16:56:40 <Alberth> posting random urls from youtube? 16:57:15 <planetmaker> that's good news, supermop :-) 16:57:23 <alluke> hehe 16:57:25 <alluke> is it bad 16:57:48 <frosch123> Alberth: maybe we should ban *.openttdcoop.org :) 16:58:11 <Alberth> :D 16:59:17 <supermop> yep 16:59:49 <Alberth> alluke: it is not so useful, I am not clicking that link without knowing what it is about. 17:00:09 <alluke> im not forcing anyone to click them 17:00:30 <Alberth> pity, isn't it frosch123? :p 17:00:43 <planetmaker> alluke: but it's not well-received to post links here without reason or description 17:00:58 <alluke> hmm 17:00:59 <planetmaker> this is also not the random funny youtube video channel 17:01:05 <alluke> ok 17:01:12 <Alberth> alluke: I also don't post patches without describing what it does 17:01:36 <alluke> well thats different thing imo 17:02:10 <planetmaker> how so? 17:02:28 <alluke> you need to install them 17:02:38 <planetmaker> no 17:02:43 <alluke> and they work different 17:02:43 <Alberth> my main point is that you should always make it easy for your audience 17:02:45 <planetmaker> We read them usually 17:03:18 <Alberth> alluke: ok, posting a pdf url then? 17:03:26 <Alberth> or an image url? 17:03:31 <alluke> ? 17:03:32 <alluke> why 17:03:49 <alluke> and usually you can read the conctent from the url 17:04:23 <Alberth> haha Z36KFNLLj2w is very clear of course :p 17:04:24 <alluke> like asd.com/hotchick.png 17:04:53 <alluke> unless its 23166666645457.png 17:05:33 <planetmaker> which is the form of every youtube url 17:05:43 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 17:05:55 <Terkhen> meh 17:06:01 <alluke> yeye i got you 17:06:29 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:06:36 <planetmaker> hehe 17:06:44 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:08:07 <supermop> so Nutracks, and other rail grfs seem to usually use RAIL as one of the types, and i cannot change that like the other types 17:08:37 <supermop> so i need to just have people use an older grf i made along with this one 17:08:53 <planetmaker> supermop: you could - when RAIL is used - override additionally also the default depot via replace(xxxx, ...) 17:08:59 <supermop> or, add some code to this one to also replace the default 17:09:06 <supermop> yeah 17:09:06 <planetmaker> easy to do :-) ^ 17:09:14 <supermop> so need to figure that one out 17:09:15 <supermop> but 17:09:22 <planetmaker> look for replace command 17:09:30 <supermop> I want to make it changable by parameter 17:09:41 <planetmaker> yes, so? 17:10:07 <supermop> currently, if you use both my old and new grfs, depot style gets more modern as speed increases 17:10:19 <Lakie> planetmaker: am I right in thinking (o)ttd(p) adds roughly a year either way to vehicle introduction dates? 17:10:22 <supermop> but the RAIL depot is also modern 17:10:49 <supermop> so i need a way for people to control the appereance of the RAIL depot 17:11:14 <supermop> so they do not get metal sheds in 1830, or brick in 2100 unless the want it 17:11:17 <planetmaker> Lakie: iirc it's two years 17:11:27 <Lakie> Oh, ok 17:11:35 <planetmaker> unless it's 2 years after game start (openttd) or two years after 1920 (ttdp) - all iirc 17:12:03 <Lakie> Ok, thanks. :) 17:15:47 * Eddi|zuHause remembers the time when the start year thing wasn't implemented and you occasionally only had half the wagons 17:16:31 <Lakie> Heh, sounds painful, 17:17:22 <Eddi|zuHause> like you build an oil line, and then shockingly notice that you don't have any oil wagons 17:21:06 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: Farewell] 17:21:10 *** APTX [APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 17:21:25 <Alberth> sounds like me, playing with a non-standard industry set, and discovering I didn't load a different vehicle set :p 17:22:49 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:23:25 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:23:28 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:38:59 <supermop> in .se rails, do the depots change graphics at a certain year, or do they keep the style they were built with? 17:40:20 <planetmaker> depots once built keep their look 17:40:38 <planetmaker> but the look of depots differ between early and modern versions 17:40:48 <supermop> ok 17:41:12 <supermop> i want to do that, then have a parameter to force all default depots to a certain style 17:42:05 <planetmaker> well... if you only replace the default depots, that doesn't work, they have no build date. Only railtype depots have 17:42:20 <supermop> ah ok 17:42:30 <supermop> so just the force parameter 17:43:23 *** perk111 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 17:43:24 <planetmaker> well. SER has the introduction date for modern stuff. And by default it only uses railtype depots for RAIL and ELRL as it completely re-defines those railtypes 17:44:07 <planetmaker> And it replaces the default depots by either the old or the modern type - depending upon the starting year 17:45:00 <supermop> ah, so it uses start year instead of build year 17:47:40 <planetmaker> for the replacement: yes. 17:48:07 <supermop> hm 17:48:52 <supermop> i also notice i could not replace the track planning depot 17:49:07 <planetmaker> but usually the railtypes way should also work for the RAIL and ELRL types 17:49:15 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:49:16 <supermop> so i guess i should add default replacements for monorail and mag 17:49:19 <supermop> yeah? 17:49:23 <planetmaker> the latter is using the monorail or maglev. Dunno which 17:49:34 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 17:49:40 <supermop> i think it is using monorail 17:50:15 <supermop> i am also going to try adding back in conditional support for other sets now that i have sorted out most of the basics 17:51:01 <planetmaker> :-) Well, you basically add support for railtypes, not individual sets :-) 17:51:39 <planetmaker> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=RailtypeLabels <-- non-comprehensive list 17:53:13 <supermop> yeah, at first i tried to address all of those, but it didn't work 17:53:42 <planetmaker> does it now? ;-) 17:53:48 <supermop> yexo was saying that it wouldn't be able to support more than 16 types, even if less than 16 were active at anyone time 17:54:03 <planetmaker> and can you replace the depot for RAIL and ELRL when you load SER instead of NuTracks? 17:54:35 <supermop> i havent tried with ser in a few days, i had some wierd problems last time 17:54:42 <supermop> but it might work now 17:54:55 <supermop> i will try after work today 17:55:00 <planetmaker> weired problems like what? 17:55:22 <supermop> it was not working in the same way that nutracks was not working 17:55:37 <supermop> but now that i have (maybe) fixed that part 17:55:52 <supermop> it might work on ser 17:56:13 <supermop> does ser define all 16 possible types? 17:56:51 <planetmaker> no. It only defines RAIL and ELRL 17:58:52 <supermop> ok 17:59:05 <supermop> so you can use it with other sets 18:00:13 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22201 /trunk/projects/generate: -Fix (r22188): make sure generate.vbs generates the same as generate 18:00:59 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22202 /trunk/ (14 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: make MusicFileSettings a proper citizen of the client settings 18:05:52 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:40 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19:19 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebr84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 18:23:19 *** Westie [~westie@raptor.typefish.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 18:25:08 *** Westie [~westie@raptor.typefish.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:25:41 *** amkoroew1 [~Heinz@p5B103BF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:27:55 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: frosch * r22203 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Doc: Document 'override_features'. 18:28:22 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r22204 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_object.h table/pricebase.h): -Change: Make the base costs for building and demolishing NewObjects also local to the individual NewGRFs 18:28:37 <supermop> back in a bit 18:28:55 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 18:29:28 <frosch123> bah, cookies can become quite lame, when they get moist 18:29:34 <planetmaker> :-P 18:29:40 <planetmaker> but them into the oven 18:29:51 <planetmaker> especially the chocolate ones ;-) 18:29:53 <frosch123> hmm, might be a try 18:29:55 <Alberth> eat them faster :) 18:30:25 <planetmaker> install a planetmaker. Cookies then never last long ;-) 18:30:59 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B1065FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:17 <Prof_Frink> Or give them to me. I will dispose of them appropriately. 18:31:55 <Sacro> Evening all 18:32:01 <Sacro> anoter day out seeing Richard Stallman 18:32:30 <frosch123> planetmaker: i have heard britains think the moon is made of cheese. but what planets are made of cookies? 18:32:52 * Prof_Frink pokes GNU/Sacro 18:33:05 <planetmaker> oh, I'm sure there are many ;-) 18:33:14 <planetmaker> especially those planets which I make ;-) 18:33:24 <planetmaker> though they might also consist of cake 18:34:12 <Prof_Frink> I mean, we already have planets made of nougat and caramel. 18:34:25 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: indeed 18:34:27 <perk111> really? 18:34:36 <Sacro> I accidently said Linux User Group 18:34:40 <Sacro> rather than GNU/Linux 18:36:16 <Prof_Frink> "That's what they're called, you silly beard." 18:42:21 * DanMacK enjoys planets made of nougat and caramel 18:50:12 <planetmaker> and even a whole milkyway ;-) 18:50:39 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@184-195-25-238.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:56 <Terkhen> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/05/exclusive-nasa-scientists-claims-evidence-alien-life-meteorite/ <-- did we already had one of these claims this year? 18:54:27 <__ln__> Terkhen: no, it was end of last year. 18:56:22 <Terkhen> hmm... either they are getting more frequent or I am better informed now 18:56:53 * planetmaker guesses the latter 18:57:08 <Alberth> nasa needs money more urgently :) 18:58:06 <frosch123> maybe they could sell doctors' degrees 18:58:52 * planetmaker doubts they make too much money on such claims 18:58:55 <avdg> nasa gets payed by the goverment, so I wonder why? 18:59:19 <Terkhen> because the government is not as generous as they would like 18:59:22 <planetmaker> well, also government agencies need to apply for money in the senate. So to speak 18:59:31 <Eddi|zuHause> the highest chance to find "extraterrestrial" life is in garbage circling in earth orbit. 19:00:43 <planetmaker> :-P 19:01:00 <frosch123> [19:29] <planetmaker> but them into the oven <- they were quite fine after that btw :) 19:01:02 <__ln__> that's the ISS 19:01:12 * planetmaker would guess it's quickest found on either Europa, Mars or Titan 19:01:28 <planetmaker> maybe Enceladus 19:01:38 <Rubidium> pff... it all depends on your point of view ;) 19:01:41 <frosch123> it is said there is life in europe 19:02:14 <planetmaker> mind the ending - only in German there's no difference between Europa and Europe ;-) 19:02:29 <Rubidium> if you're a, for us, alien then it's probably easier to find "extraterrestrial" life in your own planet's orbit ;) 19:02:47 *** ar3k [ident@ebr84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:02:48 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 19:03:30 <Rubidium> you mean that rock is a motor cycle? 19:04:43 <Terkhen> in spanish both of them are called "Europa" 19:05:31 <planetmaker> yeah, in German, too ;-) 19:09:05 <Rubidium> I guess I should ask: which Europa? The continent, moon, island, planetoid, motor cycle, rocket, village (x6), movie (x2), magazine, or mythological figure 19:10:19 <planetmaker> the latter surely was or is extraterrestrial ;-) 19:11:11 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a quite plausible idea that the greek/roman gods were actually aliens 19:11:26 <Rubidium> stargate! ;) 19:12:16 <Eddi|zuHause> those were usually egyptian gods 19:12:26 <Rubidium> true 19:12:41 <Rubidium> regardless, it's the same concept 19:23:50 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:33:56 *** michi_cc [michi@2a01:4d0:114:77:37:19:40:2] has quit [Quit: michi_cc] 19:33:58 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 19:34:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 19:41:45 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:55:45 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:57:56 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 20:03:15 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:53 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has joined #openttd 20:05:55 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:26:55 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:07 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 20:38:49 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:11 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 20:47:16 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 21:24:54 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:26:15 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-178-222.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:32:50 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFF924.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:39:05 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:45:23 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:45:27 *** Macha [~Macha@93.107.208.45] has joined #openttd 21:45:34 *** Macha [~Macha@93.107.208.45] has left #openttd [] 21:45:56 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:52:58 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22205 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: replace magic number with constant 22:03:07 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-178-222.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:04:43 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE1C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:14:29 <Terkhen> good night 22:14:51 <supermop_> good night 22:16:12 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9615.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:30:59 <Wolf01> 'night 22:31:03 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host103-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:31:34 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:32:12 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 22:35:35 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:39:58 <supermop_> alright 22:40:16 <supermop_> uploaded a sort-of working version of my grf to the forums 22:41:27 <alluke> locanian? 22:42:02 <supermop_> nope 22:42:22 <alluke> what then 22:42:38 <supermop_> It is a depot replacement set 22:42:48 <alluke> ah that 22:49:15 <alluke> np: e-rotic - gotta get it groovin 22:55:09 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:52 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:04:00 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 23:19:06 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 23:22:57 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:23:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f69ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:57 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 23:32:11 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d110-32-5-64.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:33:48 *** ar3kaw [ident@ebr84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 23:34:04 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-135-229-43.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Don't Panic!] 23:38:10 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop_] 23:41:48 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 23:44:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D761.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:49:08 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-135-229-43.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd