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Log for #openttd on 8th March 2011:
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00:11:40  <Wolf01> 'night
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07:17:13  <planetmaker> @ports
07:17:13  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound)
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07:39:48  <Terkhen> good morning
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08:18:46  <Wolf01> 'morning
08:19:20  <Terkhen> hi Wolf01
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09:35:24  * andythenorth wonders if station var 67 can detect a neighbouring industry tile
09:35:24  <andythenorth> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=VarAction2Stations
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09:41:34  <planetmaker> it can know via landscape class that there's an industry tile
09:41:38  <planetmaker> good morning all, also
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09:47:31  * andythenorth had a clever idea about stations auto-orientating single platforms to industry
09:47:43  <andythenorth> but it has at least one fail condition
09:47:45  <andythenorth> if not more
09:48:50  * andythenorth incidentally wonders if FIRS is 'done'
09:50:33  <andythenorth> it plays ok in my current test game
09:50:42  <andythenorth> first time it's really felt complete, with no glaring problems
09:51:14  <planetmaker> it's missing many graphics. But conceptually (gameplay) it feels quite fine to me
09:51:35  <planetmaker> Like all the snow :-)
09:51:44  <andythenorth> and animation
09:52:03  <andythenorth> it's missing two industries: recycling plant and guano mine
09:52:17  <andythenorth> guano mine may not be needed due to introduction of lime kiln
09:54:23  <Terkhen> :)
09:56:19  <planetmaker> yes, and animation. But that's a matter of "how much do you want"
10:01:06  <Terkhen> IMO before starting with tedious stuff like animation it should get prolongated testing to make sure that the industries are not going to change
10:01:39  <andythenorth> and find the bugs :P
10:02:57  <Terkhen> :)
10:03:04  <planetmaker> you certainly have a point there, Terkhen :-)
10:03:15  <planetmaker> animation could even be said to go into anything > 1.0 only
10:03:33  <andythenorth> I don't expect many more changes to the core industries
10:03:55  <andythenorth> I won't know too much until OpenTTD 1.1 gets released though
10:05:51  <andythenorth> There are only 39 open tickets that aren't low priority or snow / animation / fences
10:05:56  <andythenorth> 'only' :P
10:06:49  <planetmaker> hehe
10:08:38  <Terkhen> :P
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10:18:49  <andythenorth> Terkhen: planetmaker http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/issues?query_id=12
10:18:52  <andythenorth> :|
10:27:54  <Terkhen> hmm...  isn't #2355 a duplicate of #2338? (or at least closely related to it)
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10:30:20  <planetmaker> hm
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11:10:06  <ZirconiumX> having my wound photographed at the local police station this afternoon
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12:21:04  <DanMacK> Hey all
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12:58:19  <andythenorth> hmm
12:58:28  <andythenorth> I said FIRS might be 'done'
12:58:32  <andythenorth> but actually...
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14:27:52  <Belugas> hello
14:28:27  <Belugas> so, it was not 20cm that we received, but rather 25cm.  big deal...
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14:36:23  <__ln___> that's quite big
14:36:41  <Sacro> that's what she said
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16:33:29  * andythenorth considers adding post offices to FIRS
16:33:37  <andythenorth> and having houses accept Food
16:33:47  <andythenorth> maybe a bad idea
16:33:54  <planetmaker> yes
16:34:31  <planetmaker> post offices would be ok. Houses not really
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16:34:41  <planetmaker> except you make it restaurants
16:35:55  <andythenorth> post offices are probably redundant
16:35:56  <andythenorth> assuming houses continue to accept / produce mail
16:36:14  <planetmaker> well, draw more houses ;-)
16:36:19  <andythenorth> also
16:36:22  <planetmaker> I might then make a house set of it :-P
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16:38:13  <andythenorth> FIRS needs some extra industry chain that appears ~1990s
16:38:24  <andythenorth> can't involve a new cargo though :|
16:45:16  <planetmaker> that's the recycling plant
16:45:40  <planetmaker> and waste collection points
16:45:57  <andythenorth> I'm not including waste cargo :)
16:45:59  <andythenorth> it's very dull
16:46:09  <andythenorth> recycling plant is just a shinier scrap yard
16:46:11  <andythenorth> in fact...
16:46:21  <andythenorth> maybe I should just upgrade the graphics over time :o
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17:13:24  <zydeco> greetings
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18:26:05  <peter1138> WATCH THE LIZARD
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18:31:09  <supermop> ok
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18:41:32  <fonsinchen> uh, oh, no more table/settings.h ???!?
18:42:03  <Yexo> it's all in table/*_settings.ini now
18:42:11  <glx> it's generated
18:42:13  <Yexo> much better readable
18:43:01  * fonsinchen reads the code and tries to find out where to put the cargodist settings
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18:43:25  <Yexo> where were they previously?
18:44:02  <Yexo> nvm, table/settings.ini is probably the right file
18:45:24  <fonsinchen> Previously they were in table/settings.h as additional section "linkgraph", but I see now. Thanks.
18:45:32  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: translators * r22225 /trunk/src/lang/italian.txt:
18:45:32  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:45:32  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: italian - 6 changes by lorenzodv
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19:21:14  <dihedral> JOHN-SHEPARD, i totally do not think the title is suitable to that thread
19:21:39  <JOHN-SHEPARD> pardon
19:24:08  <dihedral> iirc titles should be descriptive
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19:25:12  <Bluelight> What do I type in a *.sh file to start OpenTTD server on Linux?
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19:27:24  <dihedral> Bluelight, .sh are shell scripts
19:28:05  <dihedral> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
19:28:13  <dihedral> ^ click
19:28:19  <Bluelight> I run a Minecraft server with a .sh file.. The command for starting the server is in that file.. I just select run in terminal
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19:29:22  <dihedral> you want fish - learn how to use a fishing rod
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19:31:43  <Belugas> or be a beluga and catch them mouth wide open!
19:32:29  <dihedral> :-D
19:32:42  <dihedral> they can 'fish' natively :-P
19:35:53  <Belugas> quite ;)
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19:42:11  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: frosch * r22226 /trunk/src/ (order_gui.cpp timetable_gui.cpp vehicle_gui.cpp): -Codechange: When autoreplace invalidates vehicle windows because the Vehicle index changed, use a better eye-catcher-'data' than 0 to identify them.
19:43:52  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: frosch * r22227 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Fix [FS#4546-ish]: Call sheduled OnInvalidate()-calls before doing OnHundrethTick()-calls.
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20:13:28  <__ln___> mmmmm how do i validate an .xml file against a .dtd file on commandline?
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20:17:39  <Alberth> with a validating xml parser, but that is all I know
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20:19:48  <Alberth> man xmllint seems like a good start
20:21:04  <__ln___> so it seems, thanks
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20:26:20  <larsemil> how can i using the console set the max lenght for a train / tunnel etc?
20:26:27  <larsemil> in a multiplayer game
20:26:31  <larsemil> i am running a dedicated server
20:27:15  <V453000> set max_train_length is one
20:28:02  <Alberth> tunnel has no max length afaik
20:28:09  <V453000> it does
20:28:26  <V453000> some rather new feature allows to cap the tunnel length
20:28:29  <larsemil> atleast its complaining in game. :)
20:28:32  <larsemil> rc2
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20:29:17  * Alberth must better read the commit messages :p
20:29:40  <larsemil> i mean for me half the fun is bulding the worlds longest tunnels. ;)
20:29:51  <V453000> lol.
20:30:01  <zydeco> but you can't change it in multiplayer, can you?
20:30:26  <Rubidium> sorry Albert
20:30:56  <larsemil> zydeco: why would there be a difference
20:31:10  <zydeco> I don't know, but it says you can't
20:31:15  <zydeco> set max_tunnel_length
20:31:23  <Rubidium> rcon?
20:31:36  <Alberth> construction.max_tunnel_length is the variable, apparently
20:31:43  <zydeco> yes, or the console
20:31:52  <zydeco> ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games.
20:31:55  <Rubidium> but yes, there are some settings that can't be changed in multiplayer due to the possibility of NewGRFs depending on its value
20:32:14  <zydeco> oh so that's why
20:32:19  <Alberth> SGF_NO_NETWORK  <-- it has a flag for that :p
20:32:19  * zydeco had always wondered
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20:53:12  <CIA-11> OpenTTD: frosch * r22228 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Fix (r22135)[FS#4546]: Do not resort town, industry and signs list directly in OnInvalidateData(). There might be a scheduled rebuild which needs execution first. So, only set a trigger for resorting.
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22:03:49  <Belugas> et si je colissait l'camp d'icitte?
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22:23:38  <Wolf01> 'night
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23:06:55  <Eddi|zuHause> [08.03.2011 20:29] <dihedral> you want fish - learn how to use a fishing rod <-- a fishing rod is crafted by three sticks in a diagonal and two strings vertically below the higher end
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23:36:13  * SmatZ smells pokemon
23:36:43  <SmatZ> also
23:36:58  <SmatZ> I found some poems I wrote ~10 years ago
23:37:05  * SmatZ has melancholic mood
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23:41:35  <SmatZ> one is about unrequited love...
23:41:47  <SmatZ> I wonder what girl was that about :P
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23:45:35  <SmatZ> I was fifteen, so I could be in love with different girl every week :)
23:45:43  <SmatZ> I remember some of them
23:45:49  <SmatZ> it was great to be fifteen
23:45:55  * SmatZ boohs
23:46:41  <Eddi|zuHause> that was almost fifteen years ago...
23:46:48  <SmatZ> time to (try to) write another poem, I guess :)
23:46:50  <SmatZ> hehe :)
23:46:56  <SmatZ> well, 10 years for me
23:47:00  <SmatZ> or 11...
23:49:48  <glevans2> 27 for me
23:49:55  <SmatZ> :-)
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23:51:24  <glevans2> I'm sure there are some in this chatroom with a few more seasons than me
23:52:19  <SmatZ> on the internet, I always think about other people as if they were as old as me
23:52:25  <SmatZ> which is interesting...
23:52:42  <SmatZ> saying older people things I would never tell them in person
23:53:01  <SmatZ> ... makes weird situations when I meet them in person ...
23:53:30  <SmatZ> or when I find out who that person really is
23:53:37  <glevans2> yep
23:55:20  <glevans2> get your smb problem worked out?
23:55:26  <glevans2> wrong window
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