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00:08:13 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:18:45 <krinn> night all 00:19:31 *** ar3k [~ident@ech76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 00:22:23 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22:45 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 00:26:53 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecq243.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:26:59 *** krinn [~krinn@197.54.71.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 00:32:44 *** AD [wilberforc@drinks.mountaindew.org] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:33:18 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:35:43 *** AD [wilberforc@drinks.mountaindew.org] has joined #openttd 00:36:21 *** AD is now known as Guest4456 00:37:21 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37:36 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 00:39:09 <Gniarf> omg, those 2048 x 2048 maps are huge. 00:39:32 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. and still people are asking for even bigger maps 00:44:07 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-187-155.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 00:56:53 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:51:48 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:54:52 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 01:59:43 *** rellig [~rellig@argon247.server4you.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:00:32 *** Fish-Face [~fish@cpc24-aztw23-2-0-cust147.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:14:37 *** Sacro_ [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 02:14:38 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26:16 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-188-100-210-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:31:18 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-146-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:06:49 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d7c:478e:551e:cc5e] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:12:42 *** xQR [xor@the.x-base.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:19:48 *** xQR [xor@the.x-base.org] has joined #openttd 03:19:49 *** a_p3rson [603c15ee@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 03:20:17 <a_p3rson> is there a way to specify which station gets a certain amount of cargo? 03:22:10 <a_p3rson> like if i have an airport next to a trainstation, both that have vehicles that accept the same amount of cargo, to specify the airport to get more of the cargo? 03:24:15 <a_p3rson> anything? 03:29:14 <DabuYu> as far as i know you can't set that yourself, that's done through the rating the station gets (i suppose) 03:29:37 <DabuYu> you can connect the trainstation and airport as one, if they're very close 04:00:46 *** a_p3rson [603c15ee@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74E36.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:19 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7298D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:08:26 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 05:11:51 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 05:16:16 *** duckblaster1 [~duckblast@122-59-202-3.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #openttd 05:20:07 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@122-59-202-3.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:47:25 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 05:59:48 *** duckblaster1 [~duckblast@122-59-202-3.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:03:58 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e090e25.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:27:54 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@195-240-99-235.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:58:27 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@122-59-202-3.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #openttd 06:59:29 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:06:40 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:17 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:57:45 <planetmaker> moin 08:01:30 *** zachanim1 [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 08:03:17 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:17:09 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 08:18:20 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Juo] 08:18:41 <dihedral> good morning 08:20:36 <peter1138> it's not 08:20:39 <peter1138> it's the end of the world 08:20:56 <peter1138> at least, that's what my dog thought, as his ball fell in the canal and we had to leave it 08:26:25 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:31:18 <dihedral> peter1138, ... cute :-) 08:36:51 <__ln__> not cute, shocking 08:38:20 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:38:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:48:35 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 08:53:20 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 09:21:09 <Terkhen> good morning 09:26:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:37:46 *** Sacro_ [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:48:06 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:53:03 <__ln__> http://www.techspot.com/news/44902-windows-xp-usage-finally-falls-below-50-mark.html 09:54:45 <andythenorth> shame about IE6 being so stubborn: http://www.delib.co.uk/dblog/ie6-the-facts-1-in-3-of-our-government-clients-still-using-it/ 10:03:48 *** Pikka [~Figgy@d58-111-88-82.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:04:13 <Pikka> ahoyhoy and custard 10:09:47 <andythenorth> aloha 10:10:03 <andythenorth> Pikka is on uk time? 10:10:07 <andythenorth> or staying up late? 10:11:04 <Pikka> it's 8pm, andy 10:11:31 <Pikka> I'll still be working at this time tomorrow D: 10:12:44 <Eddi|zuHause> what the hell is custard anyway? 10:13:48 <Pikka> it's a mixture of milk and egg that invented SCUBA, Eddi 10:25:27 <Eddi|zuHause> is that comparable to anything edible by continental europeans? 10:31:51 <Pikka> it's hard to tell, Eddi 10:32:16 <Pikka> although of all traditional english foodstuffs I wouldn't have thought it among the least appetising. 10:33:10 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i have no idea how it tastes 10:37:54 <duckblaster> custard powder: cornflour + vanilla flavouring + yellow colouring 10:37:56 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:38:24 <Eddi|zuHause> so it tastes like vanilla sauce? 10:38:52 <duckblaster> um, not sure? 10:39:31 <duckblaster> since i am allergic to both milk and egg, have to stick with custard powder and soy milk 10:39:50 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 10:46:37 <peter1138> it tastes like... custard 10:51:50 <andythenorth> it's custardy 10:54:16 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:17 <andythenorth> http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/gpl-compatible.html 10:55:13 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d0826d3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:07:33 <Pikka> gpl custard 11:07:36 <Pikka> the fiends! 11:09:52 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 11:10:11 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-003-173.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:20:40 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:21:00 *** Juo [~Juo@87-194-64-202.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:22:22 *** Juo [~Juo@87-194-64-202.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27:59 *** Juo [~Juo@87-194-64-202.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:32:03 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@122-59-202-3.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A62D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:43:20 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:54:23 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:04:37 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 12:14:24 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.153.209.155] has joined #openttd 12:15:32 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:e4eb:849:ff97:63df] has joined #openttd 12:15:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:20:05 <dihedral> @seen darkequi 12:20:05 <DorpsGek> dihedral: darkequi was last seen in #openttd 4 days, 3 hours, 58 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <darkequi> yo ^^ 12:20:23 <dihedral> @seen equinox 12:20:23 <DorpsGek> dihedral: I have not seen equinox. 12:20:41 <dihedral> ah well ^^ 12:20:43 <planetmaker> you've strangely named friends ;-) 12:23:28 <dihedral> yes :-P 12:23:32 <dihedral> but at least i know him :-D 12:23:53 <dihedral> not just one of those ... "virtual" contacts :-D 12:23:57 * dihedral chuckles 12:25:15 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 12:25:51 <dihedral> and hello planetmaker :-) 12:25:52 <dihedral> hihi 12:55:08 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not our fault that you were not at r20k 12:57:48 <dihedral> yeah - i wish i had been :-( 12:58:24 <dihedral> it's gonna take a while until we hit 30k 12:58:47 <dihedral> but perhaps i'll do a europe tour and visit all the well known ... 'nicks' ^^ 12:58:48 <Eddi|zuHause> at the current speed of development... very long ;) 12:58:53 <dihedral> hehe 12:59:10 <dihedral> perhaps we should do parties every 5k rather ^^ 12:59:42 <Eddi|zuHause> r23456 13:00:29 <Eddi|zuHause> or you people come to my birthday 13:02:00 <dihedral> uh 13:02:06 <dihedral> now that sounds like an interesting idea 13:02:12 <dihedral> i get my car back today ;-) 13:02:17 <dihedral> when's your birthday? 13:02:36 <andythenorth> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/elee/archive/2009/03/11/source-code-is-a-liability-not-an-asset.aspx 13:03:09 <Eddi|zuHause> end of september 13:04:03 <Eddi|zuHause> might target the 1st october (saturday) though 13:04:08 <dihedral> i am mid november - we can do two parties after each other :-P 13:07:58 <dihedral> interesting andythenorth 13:08:25 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,777958,00.html <- i spot a real life godwin event... 13:19:20 <planetmaker> meh, seems like 13:19:26 <planetmaker> I kinda pity that guy 13:22:56 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:25:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:40:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:46:50 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has joined #openttd 14:09:28 *** Eddi|nichZuHause [~johekr@poolpc03.informatik.uni-halle.de] has joined #openttd 14:12:20 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:17:06 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-248-107.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:26:42 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 14:27:36 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 14:29:11 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-187-155.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 14:31:53 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 14:34:04 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@195-240-99-235.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:26 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:39:03 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 14:39:36 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:46:03 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:53 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 14:48:23 <Zuu> dihedral: Make more patches so we get the 30k party quicker ;-) .. or rather if we want a party we can have it without getting to 30k. hehe 14:49:07 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:56:18 <dihedral> Zuu, i have some admin network stuff to do anyway :-P 14:57:27 <Zuu> Oh, and if I get something going with the NoAI API for airports, it will have to be one patch per new/modified function :-p hehe 14:58:38 *** Pikka [~Figgy@d58-111-88-82.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:00:54 *** LordAro [56885fde@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:02:06 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 15:03:04 <LordAro> afternoon 15:03:58 <andythenorth> commit my cb 15e patch :P 15:06:49 <planetmaker> Zuu, next party up North? ;-) 15:07:45 <planetmaker> also... one patch per modified or new function is not that bad an idea 15:08:39 <planetmaker> well, you know how our commits work: atomic ;-) 15:15:01 <Eddi|nichZuHause> so, then atomically commit yacd and distyacd :p 15:17:09 *** Eddi|nichZuHause [~johekr@poolpc03.informatik.uni-halle.de] has quit [] 15:22:35 <Zuu> planetmaker: Not impossible. __ln__ would be even more up North than here. I'm only less than an hour from Copenhagen. 15:24:15 <planetmaker> that makes it easy to get there ;-) 15:26:46 *** GniarfBis [gniarf@gniarf.net1.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 15:26:46 *** Gniarf [gniarf@gniarf.net1.nerim.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:28:36 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 15:29:40 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:35:02 <Rubidium> Zuu: by what means of transportation? ;) 15:35:34 <Zuu> Rubidium: Both train and car at least if thee is no jam on the highway and the trains are not too delayed. 15:36:18 <Zuu> Not sure if the helicopter service still exist. But before the bridge was there, there was a helicopter service over the water for those who didn't want to go with the ferry (and could afford the helicopter) 15:37:34 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 15:37:58 <Rubidium> so it's Malmö-ish? Although google maps says it's ~1 hour to Helsingborg as well 15:41:15 <Zuu> Rubidium: Lund 15:41:40 <Zuu> Which is only "2 mil" from Malmö. Note that a swedish mile is 10km ;-) 15:42:09 <Zuu> It's between Malmö and Helsingborg sort of. 15:42:31 <planetmaker> that's an interesting unit. Never heart it before 15:43:18 <Rubidium> the closest airport is probably Copenhagen, right? 15:43:30 <Rubidium> somewhat internationalish one that is 15:46:22 <planetmaker> well, I'd drive. I could pickup people from there, I guess 15:48:29 <Zuu> Rubidium: Right. There is one called Malmö airport as well which has busses but no train. It is however much smaller and is mostly only used for flights to sunny places etc. "charter" is what its called here. 15:49:17 <Zuu> Copenhagen airport is IIRC the largest one in scandinavia. 15:54:15 <Rubidium> planetmaker: yeah, the Copenhagen airport would be only a tiny detour 15:55:28 *** GniarfBis [gniarf@gniarf.net1.nerim.net] has quit [Quit: You can't get to the moon by climbing successively taller trees.] 16:11:05 <planetmaker> yes, and from there it's only like 45min to Lund, according to google 16:11:51 <planetmaker> but it takes me 5 hours to get there :-) 16:30:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:37:47 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 16:39:52 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-187-155.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:44:59 <Zuu> There is also a DB train from Hamburg to Copenhagen, but only that takes 5 hours. 16:47:08 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-041-081.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 16:54:15 <planetmaker> well. Hamburg is 2h from here ;-) 16:54:58 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:34 *** bb10 [~bb10@bb10x.org] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 16:58:35 *** bb10 [~bb10@bb10x.org] has joined #openttd 17:00:00 <__ln__> I'm 1,5h from Copenhagen by plane. (there are direct flights) 17:02:24 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:07:15 <__ln__> driving to copenhagen costs money besides the gasoline; either the ferry or a bridge. 17:09:01 <planetmaker> it does; I'd go by ferry 17:11:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i have gone warnemÃŒnde<->gedser once each way by ferry 17:12:36 <__ln__> yes, ferry is right choice. (puttgarden<->rÞdby). cuts down 150km of driving or so, and one gets a 45-minute break which can be used for eating a lunch on the ferry. 17:14:31 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a night train berlin-malmö 17:14:36 <planetmaker> yup. That's what I did so far when going to Sweden 17:14:43 <__ln__> copenhagen<->malmö/lund is shorter and quicker by the bridge, on the other hand. 17:14:46 <planetmaker> Also... ferries are good 17:14:57 <planetmaker> also that's what I did so far :-P 17:17:25 <__ln__> though if heading for finland, then the helsingÞr<->helsingborg ferry is the shorter route 17:18:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:18:21 <__ln__> i've tested both the ferries and both the bridges, most of them more than once :) 17:19:03 <planetmaker> :-) 17:19:11 <planetmaker> I've unfortunately not been in Finland so far 17:19:53 *** LordAro [56885fde@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:20:38 *** Juo [~Juo@87-194-64-202.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Juo] 17:20:41 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 17:21:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:23:34 <Eddi|zuHause> so a quick overview shows, there is 3 possibilities: start in the evening (~20:00) and arrive in the morning (~8:00) in Malmö, start in the morning (~4:30) and arrive in the afternoon in copenhagen (~14:00) or start in the afternoon (~14:00) and arrive in the evening in copenhagen (~22:00) 17:24:00 <Eddi|zuHause> (by train, that is) 17:27:13 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe1ba.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:28:13 <Chris_Booth> sleeper trains rule Eddi|zuHause 17:31:42 <Eddi|zuHause> weird train, it says "RE", but has like 20 stops inbetween... i don't want to see where an RB stops along that same route then... 17:32:16 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:32:40 <__ln__> Eddi|zuHause: what was the departure point of those trains/times mentioned above? 17:34:39 <Eddi|zuHause> Halle (Saale) Hbf 17:35:57 <__ln__> ok 17:37:08 <Eddi|zuHause> all routes either via berlin or hamburg (or both) 17:37:33 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:37:43 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 17:41:59 <__ln__> Hannover-CPH is 1 hour by plane 17:43:52 <Eddi|zuHause> tell if you have Leipzig/Halle -> Copenhagen ;) 17:44:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:45:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r22711 /trunk/src/lang/ (dutch.txt english_US.txt finnish.txt serbian.txt): 17:45:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: dutch - 1 changes by habell 17:45:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: english_US - 1 changes by Rubidium 17:45:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: finnish - 1 changes by jpx_ 17:45:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: serbian - 1 changes by etran 17:48:31 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of route is that? Copenhagen - [Puttgarden] - Hamburg - [Hannover - Göttingen] - Bad Hersfeld - [Eisenach - Erfurt] - Naumburg - Halle 17:48:58 <Eddi|zuHause> (names in [] are some inbetween stops, other names are switching trains) 17:51:01 <Eddi|zuHause> there's also the more direct route: Copenhagen - [Puttgarden] - Hamburg - Hannover - [Braunschweig - Magdeburg] - Halle 17:51:51 <__ln__> do they transport trains on ferries from puttgarden nowadays? 17:52:05 <__ln__> passenger trains 17:52:09 <Eddi|zuHause> they always did that, or not? 17:52:53 <__ln__> dunno, i just think Bjarni once said that it's not done on some routes anymore, after the bridges were completed. 17:55:34 <Eddi|zuHause> http://pastebin.com/scH3p8u2 17:56:26 <__ln__> looks convincing 17:56:48 <__ln__> that's an ICE-T? 17:57:10 <__ln__> or what was the diesel version's name 17:57:42 <__ln__> TD probably 17:58:51 *** ar3k [~ident@ech76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:26 <__ln__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEVXg88xuk 18:00:31 <Eddi|zuHause> ICE-T is the tilt version. ICE-TD is both tilt and diesel 18:00:59 <__ln__> also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_GI3nHRNso 18:04:03 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-092-075-244-040.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:06:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:07:59 <Eddi|zuHause> many dutch peo... i mean caravans leaving this ferry :p 18:12:09 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: as far as i know, the ICE-T was originally developed as "IC-T", as replacement for engine-driven ICs, and only very last-minute declared as ICE. it is mainly used for increased speed through curvy tracks, e.g. on the Saalebahn, the route NÃŒrnberg-Saalfeld-Jena-Naumburg-Leipzig, this is different from the ICE3, which from the beginning was designed as ICE1/2 successor. 18:12:46 <Eddi|zuHause> based on the ICE-T they developed a diesel version ICE-TD for the route NÃŒrnberg-Hof-Plauen-Reichenbach-Zwickau-Chemnitz-Dresden 18:13:03 <Eddi|zuHause> which is not electrified between NÃŒnberg and Reichenbach. 18:13:14 <Eddi|zuHause> but that connection was not very successful 18:14:08 <Eddi|zuHause> so the ICE-TD were withdrawn and basically standing around useless, until the DB decided to run them on the Hambugr-Puttgarden-Copenhagen line 18:16:20 <Eddi|zuHause> by 2017 they want to open the high speed line NÃŒrnberg-Erfurt and Erfurt-Leipzig/Halle, making the Saalebahn obsolete for high speed travel 18:17:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:19:35 <__ln__> normalpreis for kopenhagen-hamburg seems to be 84,60⬠... not much cheaper than flying. 29⬠as sparangebot though. 18:20:19 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:21:14 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:22:18 <__ln__> oh, not even sure if those go through puttgarden 18:25:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i've also seen connections via flensburg 18:32:05 <__ln__> @commit 18:32:05 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Commit by translators :: r22711 /trunk/src/lang (4 files) (2011-08-02 17:45:22 UTC) 18:32:06 <DorpsGek> __ln__: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:32:07 <DorpsGek> __ln__: dutch - 1 changes by habell 18:32:08 <DorpsGek> __ln__: english_US - 1 changes by Rubidium 18:32:09 <DorpsGek> __ln__: finnish - 1 changes by jpx_ 18:32:10 <DorpsGek> __ln__: serbian - 1 changes by etran 18:32:43 <__ln__> ah well, r30k isn't quite here yet, but r25k5 is closing 18:32:56 <__ln__> err -5 18:39:40 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: btw, the Berlin-Malmö train goes via Sassnitz-Trelleborg ferry 18:42:10 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: and almost nobody pays the "normal price", there's always some sort of reduced price, usually with limiting you to one exact train (instead of "any train within a 24h period") 18:44:44 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:50:29 <andythenorth> helloings 18:50:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:00:16 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: we're just discussing ways to get to Zuu's place for the next rWhatever-Party :p 19:04:23 <__ln__> 18:41 < Zuu> Which is only "2 mil" from Malmö. Note that a swedish mile is 10km ;-) 18:42 <@planetmaker> that's an interesting unit. Never heart it before <-- speaking of strange units in sweden, they also like to measure weight in 'hg', i.e. hectograms. 19:07:51 <supermop_> so ive decided to convert this 128 tile game to 24 hour schedules 19:08:16 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: that's not too stupid, most things get measured in multiples of 100g 19:08:17 <Rubidium> oh, only 18 hours by train 19:08:30 <Rubidium> but a mere 2 changes of train 19:09:09 <supermop_> starting with a tram that now has 120 steps in its orders 19:09:53 <Eddi|zuHause> how many round trips is that? 19:11:01 <supermop_> each round trip is 75 minutes including short lay-up at end of line, it does that for a bit less than 20 hours, 19:11:28 <supermop_> then goes to a depot, then waits until 6:00 am to start again 19:12:43 <supermop_> 5 trams run that line, 15 minutes apart, 19:13:17 <supermop_> the first 4 follow that above pattern, the 5th runs all night 19:14:37 <supermop_> there are 6 radial tram lines in the town, so I plan on expanding to those as well 19:15:23 <supermop_> previously, each line was either 60 or 75 minutes round trip, 19:16:31 <supermop_> with very tight coordination in the city center, with trams leaving the central station every 5 minutes 19:18:23 <Eddi|zuHause> how is 5 minutes "tight" in a city centre? 19:19:51 <supermop_> its as tight as i can get these trams in TT, 19:21:41 <supermop_> as the center two stations are on a loop, i need to leave enough space to ensure that a tram does not accidentally enter that section of track ahead of a tram from another line that needs to leave earlier 19:21:44 <supermop_> also 19:22:02 <supermop_> 5 minute spacing make the departure board look pretty 19:22:54 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-206-48.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:23:25 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 19:26:30 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:31:42 *** ar3k [~ident@ech76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:31:45 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 19:35:08 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has joined #openttd 19:40:31 <supermop_> i wish i could copy and paste orders 19:41:00 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 19:41:10 <supermop_> or click on them with the go to cursor 19:41:33 <supermop_> rather than manually click the station and enter the wait times 19:44:25 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:50:19 <Zuu> Rubidium: The weekend I went to r20k, I also had a trip down from Stockholm to Lund so it ended up as a total of 24hours or so on train (I took the berlin sleeper on the way down and the hamburg->copenhagen train on the way home.) 19:51:11 <Zuu> But I also had my master thesis to read through as entertainment :-D 19:55:00 <__ln__> Eddi|zuHause: agreed, hg is a useful unit, but so rare elsewhere. 19:56:06 <Rubidium> Zuu: but... for less money I can be earlier at Copenhagen airport by using a plane ;) 19:56:44 <Zuu> Not surprised that the airoplane is cheaper and faster. 19:57:07 <Eddi|zuHause> not from here... 19:57:32 <Eddi|zuHause> if they don't have direct flights, it's useless 19:58:06 <__ln__> Lund is so close to Copenhagen it could be possible to get mr. B to participate. 19:58:41 <Zuu> Eddi|zuHause: You could check Malmö airport as well if it has any flights, but perhaps you already did that? 19:59:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i already did that... Leipzig/Halle->Copenhagen with 1 stop and Leipzig/Halle->Malmö with 2 stops. it's totally stupid 19:59:48 <Eddi|zuHause> and if i have to go to places like hannover by train, then i can go the full way anyway... 20:00:24 <__ln__> how much was leipzig/halle-cph? 20:00:59 <Eddi|zuHause> don't remember... more than the train 20:01:20 <__ln__> how about a private jet 20:02:26 <Eddi|zuHause> it's around same time and also similar price range as the train, it seems 20:02:40 <Eddi|zuHause> without the option to go overnight 20:03:50 <Zuu> I should tell that currently my apartment building have renovations and after the vacation they will give me new water pipes and at some point they will also close the drain in the cellar for two weeks replacement. This is schedulled to happen after the summer but there is no really accurate schedule for exactly which week it will happen. I would say for sure that it will be done by the end of quater three, probably earlier than that. 20:04:59 <__ln__> a word of warning; in denmark and sweden the currency is also paper or metal, but looks different and they only accept their kind of money, not the usual money. 20:05:36 <Zuu> On the other hand, paying by VISA/Master card for a packet of milk is almost socially accepted. 20:06:23 <orudge> a "packet" of milk, you crazy continental types :P 20:06:27 * orudge gives Zuu a lovely bottle of milk instead 20:06:30 <Zuu> Anything above 3-4 euros is usually not a problem. If it is below, you just say that you want to use the shop as an ATM and get money ontop of your buy so that they understand that you are out of cash. 20:06:31 <orudge> I bet it's UHT milk, too, you drink :( 20:06:52 <Eddi|zuHause> germans rarely use credit cards 20:06:54 <__ln__> yes, and is also possible to buy with a visa/master unlike in many german stores. 20:07:36 * peter1138 's never used a credit card 20:07:37 <orudge> Major shops here will take credit/debit cards for pretty much anything, smaller shops or takeaways may only take them for amounts over, say, £5 20:07:45 <__ln__> orudge: ewww, and no, swedes aren't that misguided 20:07:52 <orudge> __ln__: oh, that's OK then 20:07:55 <orudge> my apologies 20:08:34 <Eddi|zuHause> what's UHT milk? 20:08:41 <orudge> shite 20:08:45 <Zuu> I've bought things for as low as 1 Euro by card, but at those amounts I try to pay by cash if I have any cash. 20:08:48 <orudge> I mean, ultra-high-temperature processed milk 20:09:02 <__ln__> comes from ultra-high-temperature cows 20:09:07 <orudge> :) 20:09:08 <orudge> in theory lasts 6-9 months 20:09:17 <orudge> but it doesn't taste as good as proper milk 20:09:19 <peter1138> yes, because it's so horrible you don't want to use it 20:09:25 <Eddi|zuHause> isn't that the standard for milk nowadays? 20:09:26 <orudge> the French are big fans 20:09:33 <__ln__> and can be stored in room temperature before opening, but it tastes bad 20:10:03 <orudge> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-temperature_processing#Popularity 20:10:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i never liked the taste of pure milk, though, maybe that's the reason :p 20:10:36 <peter1138> crazy belgiums 20:10:51 <andythenorth> at least the belgiums might ship multi-stop docks 20:10:54 <andythenorth> given enough time ;P 20:10:59 * Zuu usually buys half-processed milk. There is also a more "raw" kind of milk available where they haven't taken away any fat. 20:11:24 * orudge drinks full cream/whole milk 20:11:33 <orudge> I'll settle for semi-skimmed if I have to, but I won't buy it normally 20:11:40 <orudge> skimmed milk is pretty much pointless, you might as well have water 20:11:49 <__ln__> pure, cold, non-UHT milk is one of the best things to drink 20:12:00 <Zuu> Indeed 20:12:07 <andythenorth> phlegm 20:13:40 <Zuu> And then we have the sour milk which has similar consistency to yougurt but is more close to how milk tasts than yougurt is. (but not very close either) 20:13:40 <__ln__> i've also tasted real raw milk a few times (i.e. not pasteurized or processed in any way)... it's a bit different, but not bad either. 20:14:40 <__ln__> Zuu: and to confuse tourists, the norwegians call that kulturmelk or something, nothing about sur in its name. 20:15:03 <Zuu> here it is called "filmjölk" 20:15:13 <Zuu> (mjölk == milk) 20:15:33 <__ln__> not surmjölk? or is that a different thing? 20:15:36 <Eddi|zuHause> <__ln__> pure, cold, non-UHT milk is one of the best things to drink <-- wouldn't pure fresh milk be usually still warm from the cow it came from a few minutes ago? 20:15:44 <andythenorth> no no! 20:15:49 <andythenorth> milk comes from fridges 20:16:03 <__ln__> Eddi|zuHause: in the 2000's, cows are refridgerated 20:16:17 <Eddi|zuHause> unless you drink like goat milk or something :p 20:17:06 <Zuu> __ln__: no, surmöjk would be milk that has gone too old and smells and tastes wierd. (I know sour milk is made from milk, but the process is more controlled than an old package of milk that has been forgotten in a fridge) 20:17:48 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: the milk is already refridgerared at the farm. so you would have to attach yourself directly to the cow, if you would want to get non-refridgerated one 20:18:05 <orudge> that'd probably get you arrested 20:18:13 <orudge> :p 20:18:27 <peter1138> only if you're Sacro 20:18:40 <andythenorth> probably get you kicked in the head 20:18:50 <andythenorth> did someone mention multi-stop docks? 20:18:52 <andythenorth> who was that? 20:19:01 <__ln__> Zuu: oh, it's called surmjölk over here (in the swedish labels) 20:19:26 <Zuu> __ln__: Interesting, I actually never herd of it before. 20:19:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 20:19:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i only know "sour cream", not "sour milk"... 20:20:10 <Zuu> For the case of sour milk, you would usually write it as "sur mjölk" but in theory you can make a noun out of it. 20:20:21 <andythenorth> milk economy for FIRS! 20:20:27 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: it was you, just a few minutes ago! 20:20:43 <andythenorth> I thought someone said they were patching for it 20:20:50 <andythenorth> I must have been smoking crack 20:21:26 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, is this lack of UHT-milk the reason why you see "milk deliveries" in british movies and series? 20:21:37 <andythenorth> one reason yes 20:21:47 <andythenorth> we have a cultural aversion to UHT 20:21:48 <Eddi|zuHause> that is a completely unknown thing here... 20:21:49 <andythenorth> dunno why 20:22:21 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: it's called Dickmilch, and is actually not particularry soured 20:23:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not really that involved with milk products... 20:24:35 <frosch123> orudge: btw. noone drinks uht milk nowadays. microfiltration is the todays technology 20:25:04 <orudge> frosch123: ah. Is it any less awful? :p 20:25:34 <frosch123> it stays fine for about 20 days and tastes like fresh milk 20:25:38 <orudge> Eddi|zuHause: milk deliveries tend not to happen so much these days, alas, anyway 20:25:45 <frosch123> it's actually sold as "fresh" 20:25:49 <orudge> much cheaper for everyone to just go to the supermarket and buy their milk there 20:26:46 * __ln__ bought non-UHT milk in Las Vegas 20:27:02 <Eddi|zuHause> orudge: i guess milk deliveries haven't happened around here since the 1970's 20:27:05 <andythenorth> what happens in Vegas... 20:27:27 <orudge> My Grandad used to get a milk delivery, they stopped, I don't know, maybe 5-10 years ago, then another guy started them up a few years ago 20:27:30 <orudge> but I think he's stopped now too 20:29:23 <__ln__> orudge: in the good old days, did the milkman just leave the bottles by the frontdoor in direct sunlight to wait for people to come home some hours later? (or was there someone always at home during the good old days) 20:29:38 <orudge> well, Granny would usually be home if Grandad wasn't 20:29:48 <orudge> and the milk would usually come around pretty early, maybe 6am or so 20:29:52 <orudge> so in reality it wouldn't be out that long 20:31:12 <__ln__> ok 20:32:21 <peter1138> i think milkmen are a dying breed 20:32:27 <peter1138> supermarkets have taken over 20:34:01 <orudge> peter1138 should become a milkman 20:35:56 <__ln__> i agree 20:37:10 <dihedral> good evening 20:38:25 <__ln__> dihedral: UHT or decent milk for you, sir? 20:46:03 *** bodis [~bodis@cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust781.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:46:05 <dihedral> http://www.break.com/index/100-sake-bomb-dominoes-2091460 20:46:10 <dihedral> i for sure am at the wrong parties :-P 20:47:15 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-092-075-244-040.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:49:44 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:57:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:01:18 <frosch123> night 21:01:20 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe1ba.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:17:58 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 21:24:40 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.153.209.155] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 21:27:05 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-003-173.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... 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