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00:13:57 <KittenKoder> Hmm, anyone interested in seeing the progress on my maglev track? 00:14:02 *** lessthanthree [lt3@d64-180-56-85.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 00:14:34 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone interested in metaquestions? 00:14:56 <KittenKoder> I can be annoying, yes I can. 00:15:01 <KittenKoder> :p 00:15:12 <KittenKoder> Need a break from the work. 00:16:09 <KittenKoder> The default maglev trains seem to be aligned differently than the others. 00:20:23 *** ar3k [~ident@ecx248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 00:20:48 <pjpe> is there some way to use the opengfx cursor but normal graphics for everything else 00:23:02 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. but it involves grfcodec 00:23:31 <pjpe> i'm too used to the windows graphics 00:23:40 <pjpe> just wish i could have the cursor and toyland 00:23:46 <pjpe> god toy land is shit in the original 00:24:34 <Eddi|zuHause> replacing just toyland should be easier 00:25:46 <KittenKoder> Mars replacement with new vectors would be nice. :p 00:25:47 <Eddi|zuHause> edit the original_windows.obg file, and replace the toyland file line with the one from opengfx.obg 00:26:11 <Eddi|zuHause> save that under a different name 00:27:42 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebl184.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:56:40 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:14:38 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-233-43.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:24:31 *** mattt_ [~m@24-246-2-147.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 02:18:55 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-054-043.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 02:25:45 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-131-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:29:22 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 02:31:22 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-188-100-221-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:31:30 <pjpe> where are the sprites for the auto track cursor 02:31:36 <pjpe> and the level land sprite? 02:31:42 <pjpe> they don't seem to be in with the rest of the cursors 02:42:47 <KittenKoder> I don't think I get your question, but the features were add-ons and they are probably in another image file. 02:44:03 <KittenKoder> But in the openGFX 0.3.4 they are with the normal ones. 02:44:11 <pjpe> weird 02:44:19 <pjpe> and that complicates things 02:46:16 <KittenKoder> ??? 02:46:46 <pjpe> was taking the lazy way out and just replacing the old cursor in the original file with the opengfx cursor 02:46:52 <pjpe> now i might have to figure grfs out 02:47:25 <KittenKoder> If you're just replacing sprites, it's not so tough. 02:47:28 <KittenKoder> Use NML 02:48:02 <pjpe> sonofabitch that's a good idea 02:48:05 <pjpe> what about for online 02:48:11 <KittenKoder> ??? 02:48:19 <KittenKoder> You mean multiplayer? 02:48:22 <pjpe> yes 02:48:31 <KittenKoder> I don't know anything about that aspect. 02:49:03 <KittenKoder> I think some GRFs have no effect and others do ... but not sure what's what. 02:50:22 <KittenKoder> Heh, found the development xcf for the trees. 02:50:38 <KittenKoder> They cheated with the snow. >.< 03:01:47 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:19 *** mattt_ [~m@24-246-2-147.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: mattt_] 03:14:11 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:68af:ece8:e5d8:974b] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:02:58 *** pjpe [ae5f3a15@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 04:23:37 *** pjpe [ae5f3a15@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:24:13 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:24:18 *** Andel [~andel@owenrudge.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:24:18 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@yoda.zernebok.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:40:06 *** Andel [~andel@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 04:40:08 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@yoda.zernebok.com] has joined #openttd 04:55:06 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B727A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75B22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:18:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6DE48.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 05:25:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C5EF.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:36:53 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-144-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 05:42:48 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-131-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:06:42 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e090e25.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:16:12 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 06:27:59 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d8be.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 06:30:01 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@195-240-99-235.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:35:46 <planetmaker> moin 06:39:43 <planetmaker> pjpe: you could most probably make a newgrf which just replaces those sprites 06:41:34 <pjpe> but would it work in multiplayer on a server without it 06:41:39 <planetmaker> GUI sprites are "interesting" as some of them are in the "main" base set file, those which were not in the original TTD are in the "extra" one 06:42:03 <planetmaker> a newgrf only replacing gui sprites could be used as static newgrf, so yes 06:42:49 <pjpe> huh 06:42:54 <pjpe> well that would be easier 06:43:45 <planetmaker> they only can be activated by editing the cfg, though. There's no nice GUI interface for static grf config so far 06:47:22 <planetmaker> pjpe: you could checkout the antique opengfxGUI newgrf in the grfpack: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfpack/releases/LATEST/ 06:47:40 <planetmaker> of course it replaces more than just the cursors, but it might give you the idea 06:48:44 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:49:11 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:50:44 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:54:03 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:08:51 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 07:09:43 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:11:12 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1b1b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 07:15:31 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 07:23:36 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: goodbye] 07:24:58 <Terkhen> good morning 07:37:48 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1b1b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 07:40:13 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:40:56 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has joined #openttd 07:40:59 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 07:42:41 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 07:45:30 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1b1b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:04:07 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:10:47 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:11:31 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 08:13:07 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 08:15:51 *** Juo [~Juo@87-194-64-202.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:20:31 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:20:34 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:23:02 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has joined #openttd 08:25:13 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has quit [] 08:26:31 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has joined #openttd 08:35:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A199EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:37:37 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:57:48 *** pjpe [ae5f3a15@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 09:07:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:24:57 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:30:34 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-054-043.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:34:36 *** Noxbru [~Noxbru@76.Red-88-23-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 09:34:56 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 09:44:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A199EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54:14 *** Noxbru [~Noxbru@76.Red-88-23-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #openttd [] 10:04:12 *** Noxbru [~Noxbru@76.Red-88-23-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 10:06:09 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has joined #openttd 10:11:45 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:20:34 *** ar3k [~ident@ecx248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:20:50 *** ar3k [~ident@ecx248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 10:20:52 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 10:42:50 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:48:12 *** Noxbru [~Noxbru@76.Red-88-23-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:48:18 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 10:54:57 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-233-43.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:15:46 *** lessthanthree [lt3@d64-180-56-85.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:30:04 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:16:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc2-aztw10-0-0-cust1057.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:17:04 <andythenorth> how can I svn up without it failing on existing files? 12:17:45 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:cd5d:bde4:e2ee:36ec] has joined #openttd 12:17:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:18:16 <andythenorth> specifically 'failed to add [yxz] 12:18:18 <andythenorth> a versioned directory of the same name already exists 12:19:50 <Eddi|zuHause> remove it. 12:20:16 <Eddi|zuHause> make a new checkout 12:21:34 <andythenorth> ta 12:21:52 <andythenorth> that's the third time I'm trying to do that today 12:22:02 <andythenorth> basically the connection stalls when I'm using co 12:22:10 <andythenorth> and svn can't recover that :P 12:22:30 <Ammler> you know, openttd is available as hg? 12:22:41 <andythenorth> :) 12:22:44 <andythenorth> this is a work thing 12:22:49 <andythenorth> we're not allowed to use hg 12:23:02 <Ammler> there is also hgsubversion 12:23:11 <andythenorth> this is a good point 12:26:59 <Alberth> Ammler: but that also suffers if your connection is not reliable 12:27:17 <Ammler> Alberth: only for commit 12:27:33 <Ammler> well, push* 12:27:37 <andythenorth> a more familar interface won't help my issue that svn can't get a coherent checkout? 12:28:03 <Alberth> Ammler: nope, also for creating a local copy, I tried hgsvn-ing the corsix-th svn repo and it failed 12:28:24 <Ammler> I have no issues with svn.openttd.org 12:29:10 <Ammler> oh, hgsvn != hgsubversion 12:30:02 <Alberth> my mistake, I mean hgsubversion, where you can give a svn url to hg 12:30:35 <Ammler> and you need a svn connection to make "hg up"? 12:32:19 <Alberth> I was making a clone of the svn repo from scratch, which means pulling 2000+ revisions. Due to network(?) issues, hg lost track of progress, and decided to rollback to nothing :( I tried it 2 or 3 times 12:33:14 <Ammler> Alberth: yes 12:33:22 <Ammler> you should hg clone to a low rev 12:33:24 <Ammler> and then pull 12:33:53 <Alberth> good idea, will try that 12:40:38 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.153.209.129] has joined #openttd 12:49:13 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-027-229.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:53:33 *** Firzen [~Neon@dslb-094-219-027-229.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:57:54 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:00:32 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-027-229.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:03:07 *** joho [~joho@c-6204e155.132-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:09:33 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:38 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:24:11 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest5426 13:24:11 *** Guest5426 [~Andy@cpc2-aztw10-0-0-cust1057.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24:11 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@cpc2-aztw10-0-0-cust1057.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:24:11 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 13:32:08 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4db1b1b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:32:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc2-aztw10-0-0-cust1057.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 13:33:04 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 13:34:47 *** snorre [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:38:03 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1b1b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:00:32 *** Tom|cz [5c3ee20e@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:01:02 <Tom|cz> hi all 14:01:07 <Alberth> hi 14:01:43 <Tom|cz> hmm I was browsing wiki and stuff and I want download dedicated server for OTTD but all I found was stable version and beta and nightly on web :-/ 14:01:55 <Tom|cz> nothing about dedicated server download 14:02:02 <Tom|cz> can someone throw me a link ? 14:03:02 <Alberth> there are not enough dedicated servers to build dedicated binaries for them 14:03:21 <Alberth> you can either use a normal one, or build a dedicated version yourself 14:03:32 <Tom|cz> :'( damn 14:04:30 <Alberth> you can use the normal version with -D you probably still need to install the display libs in that case 14:05:02 <Tom|cz> I wanted to host it as my minecraft server on linux :D without any graphic or anything 14:05:36 <Alberth> -D will not open a window afaik 14:06:03 <Tom|cz> ok I'll try 14:06:45 <glx> Alberth: but it still need display libs if exe is linked to them 14:06:47 <Tom|cz> oh seems working just set up some stuf 14:06:53 <Tom|cz> thanks 14:07:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A199EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:07:26 <Alberth> glx: I mentioned that: "..still need to install the display libs in that case" 14:08:49 <Tom|cz> seems there is no need ... or maybe it uses the librarys wich I used to host garry's mod server 14:09:17 <Alberth> Ammler: it still failed, but it did not rollback, so I could continue 14:09:33 <Alberth> Tom|cz: ldd openttd will tell you which libraries it uses 14:09:45 <glx> Tom|cz: you probably have sdl and x libs installed 14:10:26 <Tom|cz> yea they were needed for Gmod :-/ that weirdness needed graphic library too 14:33:19 *** Tom|cz [5c3ee20e@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:35:35 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@195-240-99-235.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:42 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@46.115.22.96] has joined #openttd 14:38:58 *** Noxbru [~Noxbru@76.Red-88-23-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 14:44:35 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 14:46:19 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@46.115.22.96] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:48:55 *** Kanibal [~Kanibal@client-86-29-202-174.glfd-bam-2.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:53:19 *** Kanibal [~Kanibal@client-86-29-202-174.glfd-bam-2.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 15:09:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:09:45 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has joined #openttd 15:27:00 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:27:47 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:28:35 * andythenorth experiments with trial of new photoshop 15:28:39 <andythenorth> expect swearing :P 15:33:56 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 15:41:54 <supermop> cs5? 15:41:57 <supermop> or newer? 15:42:14 <supermop> cs5 took me some getting used to but i am glad i switched 15:43:31 <andythenorth> cs5 15:43:40 <andythenorth> appears to be a little faster than CS 1 15:44:28 <andythenorth> possibly due to being compatible with intel 64 bit, instead of running in a crazy big-endian-little-endian run time compatibility layer :P 15:45:15 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 15:45:45 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:46:33 <supermop> ooh 15:46:36 <supermop> cs1? 15:46:42 <supermop> big step up there 15:47:00 <supermop> do you use anything else, or just photosho? 15:47:02 <supermop> p 15:51:54 <Alberth> grfcodec and openttd quite likely :) 15:54:37 *** Strid [~Strid@c-0dcde455.04-372-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:04:08 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e090e25.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:14:06 *** Noxbru [~Noxbru@76.Red-88-23-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:15:20 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-81-33.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:23:38 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:40:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:45:44 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7c6b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:47:28 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-054-043.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:28 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 16:59:46 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 17:01:20 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-153-168.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 17:02:12 <Ammler> Alberth: yes, of course it fails like before... 17:02:30 <Ammler> but you already found the advantage :-) 17:12:13 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:18:14 *** LordAro [~lordaro@host86-132-26-6.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:19:05 <LordAro> evenings 17:21:21 <Alberth> :) 17:22:02 <Alberth> good evening LordAro 17:22:28 <LordAro> hai Alberth :) 17:35:22 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:36:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:37:15 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:38:21 *** Juo [~Juo@87-194-64-202.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:41:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:44:56 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.153.209.129] has quit [Quit: bbl] 17:45:27 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r22732 /trunk/src/lang/ (latvian.txt romanian.txt): 17:45:27 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:27 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: latvian - 36 changes by dzhins 17:45:27 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: romanian - 30 changes by kkmic, tonny 17:45:37 <Eddi|zuHause> turns out two frigates and a caravel are not enough to besiege a city. 17:52:17 <__ln__> what about a bus? 17:53:37 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: when you say that i am immediately reminded of seadogs. but is it something like eve? 17:56:54 <__ln__> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424 17:57:46 <LordAro> heard that before, _verry_ clever people 17:57:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:59:09 <LordAro> will almost certainly end up in tesco, or homeless :L 18:01:49 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:22:21 *** LordAro [~lordaro@host86-132-26-6.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: "Time is an illusion. 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Shoot? 18:44:58 <KittenKoder> Hmm .... don't know. 18:45:15 <KittenKoder> I'm USian, I don't think that far ahead. 18:45:50 <Rubidium> andythenorth: just those rubbery things 18:46:04 <Rubidium> or the lovely tear gas or even sleeping gas ;) 18:46:05 <andythenorth> ach 18:46:09 <andythenorth> the police could use those 18:46:18 <andythenorth> you don't need soldiers for that 18:46:20 <KittenKoder> Your police could use guns. 18:46:35 <andythenorth> still the problem of shooting people 18:46:45 <__ln__> KittenKoder: Somebody could be hurt. 18:46:56 <Rubidium> andythenorth: the police *could*, but then the police will have to 'live' with that image 18:47:20 <__ln__> And the whole situation kind of escalated from the police shooting an innocent man, so shooting more people might not be the best way. 18:47:23 <andythenorth> police shooting cause some serious constitutional and law & order problems 18:47:42 <andythenorth> the government would lose consent from a significant proportion of uk population 18:47:46 <KittenKoder> Police get a bum rap everywhere. 18:47:56 <andythenorth> a significant minority would probably take to the streets in protest 18:47:57 <Rubidium> therefor: declare war, declare them terrorist and use the army ;) 18:48:06 <andythenorth> or just arrest them, using the police 18:48:11 <andythenorth> it's not that big a deal 18:48:14 * andythenorth says that 18:48:15 <KittenKoder> LOL 18:48:25 <andythenorth> if they come for my house, it's probably a bigger deal 18:48:28 <KittenKoder> Brits are like sailors from Canada. 18:48:39 <__ln__> Arrest them and let them go after 24 or 48 hours or whatever time someone can be kept arrested? 18:48:52 <Rubidium> andythenorth: the 'problem' is that they need to quarantine the area and arrest everybody, not only those that are to slow to flee Bobby 18:49:35 <Rubidium> if everybody is arrested, they can't do it the next night 18:50:00 * KittenKoder ponders making the blockade fences more like real ones. 18:50:13 <andythenorth> I think the police are kind of working on that 'arrest people' idea :P 18:50:20 <andythenorth> it seems to have occurred to them 18:50:25 <andythenorth> they're just a bit slow at running 18:50:39 *** LordAro [~lordaro@host86-132-26-6.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: "Time is an illusion. 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I did the no level crossing flag in NML and it put wires on the track. >.< 18:59:26 <Hirundo> read the docs more carefully 19:02:11 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 19:03:12 *** LordAro [~lordaro@host86-132-26-6.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."] 19:03:23 <Hirundo> KittenKoder: bitmask(RAILTYPE_FLAG_CATENARY, RAILTYPE_FLAG_NO_LEVEL_CROSSING) <- use bitmask 19:03:56 <KittenKoder> OH! 19:04:17 <KittenKoder> Wait, it doesn't show that in the example though. 19:04:45 <Hirundo> doesn't it? 19:05:01 <KittenKoder> railtype_flags: RAILTYPE_FLAG_CATANERY; 19:05:03 <Hirundo> I thought I'd fixed that *checks* 19:05:03 <KittenKoder> :p 19:05:29 <Hirundo> where is that? 19:05:48 <KittenKoder> On the doc page, one sec. 19:05:57 <KittenKoder> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/nml/raw-file/tip/docs/railtypes.html 19:06:22 <KittenKoder> bitmask worked like a charm! TY! 19:06:52 <KittenKoder> But the doc line is REALLY wrong to, the comment says it's no level crossing flag. 19:06:53 <Hirundo> ah I see, I fixed it somewhere but not there :) my bad, will fix 19:07:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6DE48.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:38 <KittenKoder> Yeah, new maglev track .... no level crossings. 19:08:17 <KittenKoder> 300+ mph trains and cars driving across .... >.< 19:09:37 <KittenKoder> Now ... time to remake the depots. 19:10:20 <KittenKoder> Then I get to learn parameters! 19:14:17 <KittenKoder> Inspiration for the depot finally hit! 19:14:33 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-233-43.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: jpx_] 19:16:57 *** LordAro [~lordaro@host86-132-26-6.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:21:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host178-232-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:22:25 <Wolf01> hello 19:22:53 <__ln__> buonasera Wolf01 19:23:11 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-233-43.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:24:48 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:25:25 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:27:06 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 19:27:11 <KittenKoder> Blinking lights on depots ... good ... bad? 19:30:10 <andythenorth> hmm 19:30:15 <andythenorth> stupid time goes too fast 19:30:58 <andythenorth> does game time work like UTC time in apps? 19:31:06 <andythenorth> i.e. number of ticks since epoch? 19:31:32 <andythenorth> when used in say, vehicle availability check, or vehicle aging check 19:31:42 <andythenorth> or does it look at in-game calendar date 19:31:43 <andythenorth> ? 19:32:52 <andythenorth> nvm 19:33:06 <andythenorth> I wondered if we could just pretend the year had 730 days 19:33:23 <andythenorth> but I would bet money that isn't going to work 19:33:39 <Wolf01> daylength again? 19:33:43 <andythenorth> yarp 19:34:17 <andythenorth> is there something that increments a tick counter? 19:35:06 <Wolf01> I made a patch which avoids the known economy problems 19:35:16 <andythenorth> could we 'just' increment by 1 or 0 alternately, using a flip-flop type affair 19:35:27 <__ln__> Wolf01: you should offer it to Obama 19:35:53 <Wolf01> I must update it before doing that 19:36:05 <andythenorth> you should offer it to the Euro zone 19:36:11 <andythenorth> they'll probably accept it anyway 19:37:55 <Wolf01> I don't care about world economy problems, in the next year we wouldn't have an economy anymore, so all problems will be automagically resolved 19:40:56 <Wolf01> What about England instead? How much of what TV says is true? And how much TV don't say? 19:41:40 <__ln__> Wolf01: they are having a fun time, 20:56 < __ln__> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424 19:43:46 <Wolf01> nice 19:48:35 <andythenorth> Wolf01: it's true 19:48:39 <andythenorth> but somewhat over-rated 19:50:28 <andythenorth> there is one serious incident 19:50:49 <andythenorth> a number more dramatic incidents (dramatic on TV, with the right angle) 19:50:55 <andythenorth> many more minor incidents 19:51:11 <andythenorth> and a lot of idiots on twitter and other places politicking 19:51:24 <Wolf01> as usual 19:51:50 <andythenorth> the riots are an awesome talking point for everyone who is a victim of ideology 19:52:12 <andythenorth> on one hand they are because we haven't hung enough people, and on the other they are because of the capitalist rich oppressor 19:52:25 <andythenorth> and all sides (there are more than two) are 100% in their conviction 19:52:41 <andythenorth> meanwhile a small number of kids are out having a great time nicking stuff 19:52:45 <Prof_Frink> Well, there's an obvious solution. Hang the rich. 19:53:31 <Hirundo> Rich people tend to object to that 19:54:07 <andythenorth> the French did it 19:54:21 <andythenorth> revolution is predicted 19:54:45 <andythenorth> the underclass has apparently declared civil war upon society 19:54:45 <Prof_Frink> Personally, I think it's a cover for the robots staging a coup on the lizard people. 19:55:01 <andythenorth> Prof_Frink: you're explanation is probably more convincing than some of the others :P 19:55:15 <andythenorth> there's a quote about suspecting conspiracy where fuckup would suffice :: 19:55:17 <andythenorth> :P 19:55:23 <andythenorth> I blame the BBC 19:59:47 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 20:00:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:04:41 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-21-234.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:04:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:06:02 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:11:09 <frosch123> hmm, firefox seems to be as multithreaded as ottd 20:11:43 <glx> it's theorically one thread/process per tab 20:12:01 <frosch123> not this version 20:12:12 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-21-234.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 20:12:42 <frosch123> i have 6 tabs and it only takes 100% 20:13:02 <frosch123> (of one core) 20:16:01 <frosch123> maybe it's memory allocation is interlocking itself 20:18:00 <Alberth> or a js program is doing stupid things :) 20:18:31 <frosch123> no, no, i am doing the stupid thing with trying to load the grf2html output of 6 ecs vectors at once :p 20:21:39 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds fun :p 20:23:17 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:36 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has joined #openttd 20:28:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-100-18.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:34:04 *** DOUK [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has joined #openttd 20:38:53 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:47:24 <frosch123> while opera seems to only use one core as well, it performs a lot better 20:49:38 *** DOUK [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:55 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has joined #openttd 20:55:55 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:59:31 <frosch123> oh, now it tirggers the ulimit for too many files :p 21:03:34 <KittenKoder> Okay, I need a bit of help. 21:04:33 <KittenKoder> For NML, if you are setting up a parameter that allows the player to choose between your fence, default fence, or no fence .... I get the parameter stuff but where does the switch go and what syntax would it be? 21:05:07 *** [1]Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 21:05:17 *** Firzen [~Neon@dslb-094-219-027-229.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 21:05:31 *** [1]Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:55 <KittenKoder> I kind of get the switch syntax .... 21:09:33 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:46 *** LordAro [~lordaro@host86-132-26-6.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: "Time is an illusion. 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OpenTTD uses a callback mechanism to query a grf for various things, either to determine what sprites to show or for certain other values (for example, max speed of a train) 21:29:02 <Hirundo> In such a callback you can use a switch-block to make a decision based on various variables/parameters, whatever 21:29:13 <KittenKoder> Aaaah. 21:30:26 <Hirundo> In this case, you'll probably want to switch based on the parameter setting, and choose between either your fence sprites, empty sprites (1x1 blue pixel), or CB_FAILED to use the default 21:30:58 *** JVassie [~James@host-92-27-149-231.static.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:43 <Hirundo> CB_FAILED is an explicit failure code, it causes the callback to abort without a return value 21:31:44 <KittenKoder> So CB_FAILED is like saying "do what you would normally do"? 21:31:57 <Hirundo> I assume in this case, yes (checking now) 21:34:20 <KittenKoder> Aha, I figured out the depot setting. 21:36:38 <KittenKoder> So fences would need a blank tile to disable. 21:38:58 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 21:39:44 <Hirundo> You'd need 8 1px * 1px transparent blue sprites 21:39:58 <Hirundo> of course, using the same pixel 8 times works just fine 21:41:17 <KittenKoder> :p Yep. 21:41:59 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecx248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 21:42:24 *** Zeknurn [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 21:43:09 <KittenKoder> Last part, railtype_flags .... 21:43:36 <KittenKoder> It won't let me use a switch on those and I've tried a lot of variations. 21:45:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:45:34 *** Zeknurn [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:46:04 <Hirundo> railtype_flags is a property, not a callback, why would you want a switch on that? 21:46:48 <KittenKoder> So there is no way to make a parameter that could change whether level crossings are allowed? 21:49:48 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50:23 <Hirundo> there is, but not via a switch 21:50:55 <KittenKoder> Okay, so where do I look? 21:50:56 <Hirundo> The value of the railtype_flags property is a single expression that may also include parameter values 21:51:14 <Wolf01> 'night 21:51:18 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host178-232-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:51:41 <Hirundo> So you could do something like "railtype_flags: param_level_crossings ? bitmask(..) : bitmask(..);" 21:52:03 <Hirundo> With of course the correct param and bits set, but I'm sure you'll figure that out :) 21:52:16 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has joined #openttd 21:52:17 <KittenKoder> Aaah, the if-then expression syntax. 21:54:03 <Hirundo> You can also do arithmetic and such (railtype_flags: param_abc * 42), but that probably doesn't make a lot of sense here 21:54:35 <KittenKoder> That didn't work for me to. 21:55:06 <KittenKoder> The if expression did though. 21:55:20 <KittenKoder> ^_^ I have my first GRF to actually let people try now. 21:55:34 <KittenKoder> Just need a better name and description. 21:55:55 <KittenKoder> Called it NeoMaglev Tracks .... kind of blech. 21:56:59 *** ar3k [~ident@ecx248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 21:57:00 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 21:57:53 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-237.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:58:48 <Hirundo> goodnight 21:58:53 <KittenKoder> night then. 21:59:12 *** douknoukem [~KEM@78.166.118.29] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:34 <KittenKoder> Crap, GUI stuffs. >.< 22:14:02 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16:14 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4db1b1b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 22:16:33 <Sacro> Ammler: getting segfaults using Autopilot with CHPP 22:16:43 <Sacro> any way to debug? 22:17:21 <__ln__> Sacro: what about you, have you been looting and vandalising stuff? 22:18:15 <Sacro> __ln__: nope, i'm staying well clear of it 22:18:43 <__ln__> how boring 22:20:30 <Sacro> oh, seems like it's an ubuntu bug 22:23:48 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [] 22:24:16 *** tparker [~tparker@2600:3c03::1d:4242] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:33 <Sacro> right,l forcing tclsh8.5 helped 22:26:36 <Sacro> now getting spawn id exp6 not open 22:27:17 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 22:28:14 *** tparker [~tparker@2600:3c03::1d:4242] has joined #openttd 22:35:58 <Ammler> Sacro: does that mean, if you run it without ap, it works? 22:36:08 <Ammler> what does secfault, ap or openttd 22:36:39 <Sacro> it's adding things to the bind sectoin 22:36:43 <Sacro> which causes it to shit itself 22:36:49 <Sacro> Ammler: it's the package require Expect bug 22:36:54 <Sacro> in 8.3 and 8.4 22:37:04 <Ammler> bug? 22:37:06 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:37:11 <Sacro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tcl8.4/+bug/581607 22:37:23 <Sacro> breaks autopilot 22:37:25 <Ammler> well, ubuntu is one big bug :-P 22:37:30 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:37:34 <Sacro> s/tclsh/tclsh8.5/ did that 22:37:38 <Sacro> by did i mean fixed 22:37:43 <Sacro> and I can load a new game 22:37:47 <Ammler> oh 22:37:49 <Sacro> but when I load a new save, it can't bind :\ 22:37:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A199EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38:07 <Sacro> and then once I've loaded the save I can't start a new one without clearing the config 22:38:30 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 22:38:35 <Sacro> server_bind_addresses 22:38:56 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has quit [] 22:40:53 <Ammler> I do not get, how that is related to ap 22:41:27 <Ammler> I mean just test it without ap 22:41:41 <Sacro> it's not, it's openttd :\ 22:41:54 <Ammler> openttd or chpp? 22:42:03 <Sacro> chpp perhaps 22:42:06 <Sacro> i don't have openttd 22:42:16 <Ammler> else I am sure, devs would like to get a fs post about 22:42:45 <Sacro> hmmm 22:42:46 <Ammler> we run nightly and testing without any issues since years 22:42:58 <Sacro> no, it's that kernel protection thingy whose name escapes me 22:43:07 <Sacro> not ipsec... 22:43:16 <Sacro> >< 22:43:24 <Ammler> ok, no clue :-) 22:44:02 <Sacro> oh, that thing 22:44:09 <Sacro> that helps keep servers secure 22:44:20 * KittenKoder dances around 22:44:27 <Sacro> SELINUX 22:44:28 <Sacro> that one 22:45:17 <Sacro> or something 22:45:24 <Sacro> I can't figure out why it can't listen 22:45:55 <Sacro> dbg: [net] getaddrinfo for hostname "/home/openttd/.openttd/save/SimSigMatt Transport, 20th Mar 1970.sav", port 3979, address family either IPv4 or IPv6 and socket type tcp failed: Name or service not known 22:46:23 <Sacro> hmm 22:46:28 <Sacro> do I need -g? 22:47:33 <Ammler> no 22:47:39 <Ammler> not with ap+ 22:47:53 <Ammler> but that looks quite strange, I would suspect the spaces 22:48:44 <Ammler> anyway, would be coold, if you try to reproduce with nightly or testing and report to fs if it fails too 22:48:48 <Ammler> (without ap+) 22:50:56 <Sacro> Yeah, seemilny fixed it 22:54:04 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 23:03:22 <KittenKoder> NeoMaglev is done .... 23:03:24 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05:31 <KittenKoder> That was pretty fun. 23:10:08 <Sacro> right, the dedi is causing epic lag 23:10:23 <KittenKoder> If people like it I will do more on it. But I do want to learn stations next. 23:16:07 <planetmaker> they're not yet implemented in NML (should you use that) 23:16:36 <KittenKoder> >.< 23:16:38 <KittenKoder> Pooh. 23:18:57 <KittenKoder> Alright, movie then play OTTD. 23:24:43 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d8be.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26:36 <Sacro> sigh, get it working and mpeople complain that their machines are too slow to handle it 23:26:44 <Sacro> life is fucking crap 23:27:13 <KittenKoder> Sacro, a majority or computer users have 10 year old computers. 23:27:25 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:28:08 <Sacro> KittenKoder: yep 23:28:28 <Sacro> so now we return to it being hosted on an old laptop via a wifi connection... 23:28:29 <KittenKoder> Upgrading computers as they come out is neither intelligent nor cost efficient. 23:29:55 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-81-33.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:31:28 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:39:25 *** lessthanthree [lt3@d64-180-56-85.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:39:26 <KittenKoder> Why come you don't have a tatoo? 23:47:40 <lessthanthree> what's a good % level for train service interval? 23:50:38 <KittenKoder> Anything above 50 is pretty good. 23:51:07 <KittenKoder> Wait ... I misunderstood the question. 23:51:36 <KittenKoder> It's better to use days for that. 23:51:48 <lessthanthree> oh okay. 23:52:16 <lessthanthree> and then the default 150 is okay? 23:52:24 <KittenKoder> Normally, yeah. 23:52:38 <KittenKoder> You can add an order for them to service after long stops. 23:53:12 <KittenKoder> Such as waiting for a full load, then "go to depot for maintenance" then to the destination.