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Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0f234c.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:16 <andythenorth> truck weight = length * constant * multiplier (set on per vehicle) 09:00:22 <andythenorth> ^ bit fricking magical no? 09:00:46 <andythenorth> bit 'fiddle magic numbers to get the result I want' ? 09:01:17 <dihedral> if length = 1m and 1m = 100KG * multiplier 09:01:54 <andythenorth> yup 09:01:58 <dihedral> i shall specify a multiplier of 0 for my ufo-truck-road-flyer-thingy 09:02:09 <andythenorth> :) 09:04:49 * andythenorth ponders varying the weight by type of truck body 09:05:07 <andythenorth> flat deck is lighter than refrigerated trailer 09:05:11 <andythenorth> but meh 09:05:17 <andythenorth> too fine grained :P 09:14:24 <andythenorth> hmm 09:14:31 <andythenorth> length * constant * truck type 09:14:34 <andythenorth> will do 09:22:42 <planetmaker> truck weight = length * truck_specific_constant * introduction_year / base_costs 09:22:53 <planetmaker> or simplified to truck_weight = truck_specific_constant 09:23:30 <planetmaker> if you have a per-vehicle factor you can skip all calculation and set weight directly 09:23:40 <planetmaker> All else is just making it magically complex without adding clarity 09:24:09 <peter1138> separate trailers! train-like depot! 09:24:18 *** MJP [~TdlQ@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:26:33 <andythenorth> planetmaker: +1 on the badness of magic 09:27:12 <andythenorth> if I have to set magic multipliers, might as well just set weight :P 09:30:56 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-39-107.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 09:32:57 <andythenorth> "There is no problem that cannot be made worse with another layer of indirection" 09:36:34 <planetmaker> andythenorth: in case of doubt you want to get a guide value by a formula. And fill in the actually used weight by hand directly which includes implicitly a "magic" andy-factor wrt the table-value based on your judgement what would fit 09:36:49 <planetmaker> thus: use a guide. But not a formula 09:40:47 <andythenorth> or I make it entirely derived, which I'm testing 09:40:55 <andythenorth> but not some mix of manually set / derived 09:40:57 <andythenorth> that would be horrible 09:41:19 <planetmaker> exactly :-) 09:41:37 <andythenorth> I've mixed set / derived for run cost, I'm not sure it's wise 09:42:13 <andythenorth> maybe I should remove that and just set run cost directly 09:43:11 <andythenorth> but then...what is the direct value for run cost? :o 09:43:24 <planetmaker> the property value 09:44:19 * andythenorth does ponder 09:47:41 * Rhamphoryncus wonders if delayed departure due to sudden extra loading breaks timetables too 09:51:58 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 10:06:09 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest2120 10:06:09 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:06:09 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 10:06:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:14 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08:20 *** Guest2120 [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:09:01 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 10:10:02 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 10:10:15 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-127-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:16:33 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-179-197.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:25:51 *** welshdragon [~mark-oftc@static.209.236.9.176.clients.your-server.de] has joined #openttd 10:30:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:30:09 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-67-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:46:19 *** cmircea [~cmircea@86.124.221.238] has joined #openttd 10:52:06 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@178.248.252.202] has joined #openttd 10:53:09 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@178.248.252.202] has quit [] 10:54:34 *** [1]Mark [~Mark@5ED06D58.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:54:36 *** Mark is now known as Guest2121 10:54:36 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 10:54:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:03:46 *** kkb110__ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 11:12:09 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0/20120129142603]] 11:26:48 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: i like RAGE (fps game) - :P] 11:49:32 <__ln__> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428318_363905890304143_183457778348956_1362409_1249050976_n.jpg 11:57:56 <andythenorth> bah 11:58:04 * andythenorth has 100 emails to read and reply to 11:58:19 * andythenorth likes work, but mostly when it involves making the internet 11:58:26 <andythenorth> not when it involves email 12:05:03 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 12:09:58 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-39-107.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 12:13:59 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-41-154-106-77.eidsiva.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:35:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:52:42 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 13:01:43 <peter1138> is your penis a porpoise? 13:03:10 <andythenorth> is yours? 13:04:55 <peter1138> not today 13:05:10 <MNIM> why, it is on saturdays? 13:06:20 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-39-107.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 13:18:52 <Stimrol_> hello, I had my openttd server hacked yesterday. Someone came in and joined all the password protected companies and destroyed them. I thought this was not possible. How can I prevent this? 13:19:58 <Ammler> Stimrol_: did you restart the server before? 13:20:15 <Stimrol_> I have searched google for answer but nothing there. 13:20:35 <Ammler> company passwords do not survive a reload 13:21:03 <Stimrol_> No, there was a user I know logged in while this was happening and he said that all the companies where still with passwords 13:21:40 <MNIM> ...why would one hack an ottd server? :S 13:21:43 <peter1138> "destroyed" in what way? 13:21:46 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-39-107.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:07 <Ammler> MNIM: does not really matter, does it? 13:22:13 <Stimrol_> Even his company was taken over and everything removed and the landscape destroyed to spend the money 13:22:25 * MNIM blarghs at griefers everywhere 13:22:38 <Stimrol_> mnim you do it because you can i suspect 13:22:39 <peter1138> autoclean can remove companies 13:22:53 <peter1138> and if someone knows your rcon password, they can switch companies too 13:22:59 <MNIM> apparently. 13:23:03 <Stimrol_> they where not removed, and I could see the changes in the landscape 13:23:20 <peter1138> MNIM, griefing and trolling are a popular internet pasttime 13:23:21 <Ammler> true, maybe he knew the rcon pw 13:23:22 <planetmaker> still. With the rcon pw known one can move oneself to any company 13:23:38 <Stimrol_> rcon password is blank 13:23:45 <MNIM> in all my life, I still don't understand people who wantonly waste time just to make someone angry. 13:23:46 <planetmaker> it's a good password then ;-) 13:24:20 <planetmaker> I'd say the fault is then that no password was set for rcon 13:24:31 <Ammler> planetmaker: no, that would be a bug 13:24:31 <Stimrol_> don't you need another port to connect to rcon and is not rcon disabled if it has blank password? 13:24:46 <planetmaker> it should indeed. Not sure it is 13:24:47 <Ammler> we don't set rcon pw on our server either 13:25:29 *** kkb110__ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:25:30 <Ammler> hehe, maybe we should check it :-) 13:25:53 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:26:25 <Stimrol_> :) yes maybe we should, I was under the impression that if it was blank it worked like ubuntu root password, nobody knows that password if it has not been set 13:26:30 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:27:03 <planetmaker> well. Maybe you can easily check? 13:27:17 <MNIM> uhh, how does one *not* set a root password? :S 13:27:21 <Stimrol_> rcon pass and admin pass are blank on my server 13:27:32 <MNIM> I mean, you can disable your root account, but you still need a root password. 13:28:20 <Stimrol_> ubuntu users use sudo to access root, and you can also do sudo root and then need no password. 13:28:42 <Stimrol_> except your own password 13:29:31 <Stimrol_> maybe I am doing mistake to have admin_password and rcon_password blank 13:29:58 <Stimrol_> nick Stimrol 13:30:03 *** Stimrol_ is now known as Stimrol 13:30:06 <Stimrol> :) 13:30:52 <andythenorth> this is possibly interesting http://vimeo.com/9270320 13:31:11 <Ammler> Stimrol: we can at least confirm that empty pw still does disable rcon 13:31:58 <Stimrol> thanks, I thought so but never checked :) 13:32:21 <Sacro> MNIM: you put in an invalid hash in /etc/shadow 13:32:57 <Ammler> Stimrol: can't you ask the "Hacker" how he did it? 13:33:01 <Stimrol> My friend who was on the server said this user came in and knew what he was doing, he joined the companies removed everything they built and changed the landscape a lot to finish their money 13:33:07 <MNIM> isn't that much like building a burglary proof house and then encasing the door in molten steel? :S 13:33:52 <peter1138> probably the companies weren't password protected. most likely explanation 13:34:18 <Ammler> and your friend simply wasn't aware of 13:34:27 <Stimrol> I would like to :), but one problem there is no log (i have not found any) and what happened had cleared my screen (was not in the buffer any more) 13:34:28 <Ammler> do not trust him ;-) 13:34:29 <peter1138> aware of what? 13:34:41 <Ammler> that the companies aren't passworded 13:34:45 <planetmaker> then my best bet is ^^ 13:35:16 <peter1138> you should learn to finish your sentences, ammler :p 13:35:32 <Stimrol> that is a slight possibility that he was wrong about that, but I dopt it because it was like four companies all destroyed 13:35:41 <Ammler> well, I was continuing yours :-P 13:35:46 <Stimrol> hehe 13:35:46 <planetmaker> your best protection is a) having an admin around or responding to admin requests and b) logging at least who joined 13:35:54 <planetmaker> and banning the IPs, if needed 13:36:49 <Stimrol> is there a way to have a log that logs who comes in and so, openttd --help does not show me that option 13:37:04 <Ammler> we piple console output to a file 13:37:18 <planetmaker> ./openttd -D | tee -a game.log 13:38:57 <peter1138> when did he check the companies were passworded? 13:39:03 <peter1138> the attacker could easily just have set one 13:40:15 <Stimrol> most likly they where with passwords because it was like 1960 and I start the server 1900 and I had not resetted the map 13:40:58 <Stimrol> when I came and saw this, then the users where trying to rebuild their companies, so no passwords where changed 13:41:35 <planetmaker> oh, if you're inside a company you don't notice a PW change 13:41:53 <Stimrol> Yes now I am sure they had password, because I remember joining one with pass 13:41:57 <planetmaker> and companies only have PWs set, if the users have PWs 13:42:54 <Stimrol> there was only one loged in while this happened, so another user logged in afterward and his pass had not been changed 13:46:02 <Stimrol> but thanks people, maybe I will sometime find out how this was done and how to prevent it 13:53:57 <Ammler> don't forget to bugreport 13:58:02 <Stimrol> yes, if I find something 14:15:37 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-99-169.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:18:10 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:153a:bf02:2eff:ad8a] has joined #openttd 14:18:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:20:47 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-142-110.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:20:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:21:02 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-44-75.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:58 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-99-169.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:34 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-42-140.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:30:23 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-38-136-106-77.eidsiva.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:21 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-142-110.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:35:41 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-104.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:57:51 <Belugas> hello 15:11:53 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-39-107.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 15:13:46 <andythenorth> lo Belugas sir 15:13:54 <andythenorth> is sir French? 15:15:02 <Belugas> good question 15:15:10 <Belugas> hello to you too, andythenorth 15:15:12 <Belugas> i think so 15:15:19 <Belugas> sir, been french.. 15:15:36 <andythenorth> hrm 15:15:39 <Belugas> just that t's extremely rare that you call someone "sir" in french :) 15:15:43 <andythenorth> sir = monsieur 15:15:50 * andythenorth remembers french :P 15:16:01 <andythenorth> monsieur Belugas ! 15:16:06 * andythenorth back to work 15:16:15 <andythenorth> filling out security audits 15:16:17 <andythenorth> such larks 15:17:02 <Belugas> well, if you are talking to me, please upper case the M of Monsieur. I'm not just anybody, me! 15:17:04 <Belugas> hem... 15:17:05 <Belugas> joking... 15:18:11 <andythenorth> do you have a backup generator? How much fuel does it hold? 15:18:16 <andythenorth> how often is it refuelled? 15:18:23 <andythenorth> hrrm 15:18:29 <planetmaker> hello BELUGAS! 15:18:35 <planetmaker> (enough caps :-P ? ) 15:18:40 <andythenorth> MOAR CAPS 15:19:10 <planetmaker> how often is the fuel for the caps lock key refueled? 15:20:07 <andythenorth> often 15:20:16 <andythenorth> "please state the frequency" 15:20:23 <andythenorth> grr 15:21:25 <andythenorth> "we do not own the co-lo, we have a contract with 99.9% uptime guarantee and guaranteeing physical security" 15:21:32 <andythenorth> why can't I just put that? :P 15:21:47 * andythenorth is example of legalistic, blame passing culture :P 15:21:58 <Belugas> Mister planetmaker, ya salute ya! 15:24:50 * andythenorth wonders if he can spend rest of day converting FISH to pynml 15:24:57 <andythenorth> what would the boss say? 15:25:15 <Belugas> as long as he doe snot see what you're doing, nothing! 15:26:30 <andythenorth> he watches me all day 15:26:41 <andythenorth> all the time I am awake, he can see me 15:26:47 <planetmaker> is he sitting in your chair? 15:26:56 <andythenorth> if I'm sitting there, he is sitting there :( 15:27:07 <andythenorth> anyone else work for themselves? 15:27:48 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-67-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 15:32:32 <Belugas> not me, for sure! 15:33:17 <Belugas> that's one of the [problems I had devving from work. Pascal and C++ do not have excatly the same "shape", so it's quite easy you're not doing work@work... 15:35:40 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:42:09 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 15:42:09 *** George is now known as Guest2146 15:42:10 *** George|2 is now known as George 15:47:44 *** Guest2146 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:34 *** Twofish [~Twofish@77-95-76-210.bb.cust.hknett.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:59:02 *** cmircea [~cmircea@86.124.221.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:09 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 16:13:59 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.5.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:24:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:34:58 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0f234c.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:48:03 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:55:21 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:56:43 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-38-136-106-77.eidsiva.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57:06 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-38-136-106-77.eidsiva.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:40 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:12:23 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:18:06 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-248-55.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:18:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 17:23:51 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-42-140.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:24:08 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:25:52 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:47 *** enr1x is now known as Grrrlpower 17:50:01 * andythenorth ponders 18:03:08 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-57-70.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:08:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-248-55.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:19:30 *** Aygar[Work|afk] [~quassel@160.129.129.92] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:20:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:21:41 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-38-136-106-77.eidsiva.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:06 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-prvbrasgw1-fe05dc00-37.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:39:18 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-73-178.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:50:39 *** cmircea [~cmircea@86.124.217.99] has joined #openttd 18:52:31 *** lollercaust [~paper@172.Red-193-153-66.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:52 *** lollercaust [~paper@172.Red-193-153-66.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:55:01 *** lollercaust [~paper@172.Red-193-153-66.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 18:56:22 *** lollercaust [~paper@172.Red-193-153-66.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:57:30 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:09:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7cb8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:24 *** MJP [~TdlQ@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 19:13:50 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:13:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 19:16:07 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08f154.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:31 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:28:11 <frosch123> what? was the forum offline all day? why is there no new posts in suggestions or problems forum? 19:28:23 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-73-178.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:31:44 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:33:40 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:33:40 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:33:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r23921 /trunk/src/lang/ (english_AU.txt estonian.txt french.txt latvian.txt): 19:33:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 19:33:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: english_AU - 5 changes by tomas4g 19:33:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: estonian - 55 changes by Jaanus 19:33:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: french - 13 changes by OliTTD 19:33:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 1 changes by Parastais 19:35:00 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:35:43 *** lollercaust [~paper@172.Red-193-153-66.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 19:35:54 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:36:06 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:36:25 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 19:37:23 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:42:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 19:48:38 <Alberth> all questions were clear to all :p 19:53:45 <Terkhen> hello 19:54:06 <Alberth> hello Terkhen 19:57:16 <andythenorth> frosch123: maybe the world ended, but we didn't notice? 19:57:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A6F3.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57:46 <andythenorth> also...no replies to my python+nml thread :o 19:57:51 <andythenorth> definitely, the world ended 19:58:04 <Alberth> perhaps the internet died 19:58:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A72B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:58:37 *** Firartix [~artixds@108.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:53 * Alberth makes some tea 20:00:33 <frosch123> evening fellow zombies .) 20:00:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A37D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:51 * andythenorth wonders if he should code BROS 20:05:05 <andythenorth> possibly that would lead to bad comments 20:05:11 <andythenorth> mostly by me 20:05:51 <supermop> do it before anyone has a chance to say anything 20:10:44 <Terkhen> andythenorth: code the spain set :) 20:12:01 <Ammler> spain set has 32bpp sprites too :-) 20:14:17 <andythenorth> Terkhen: is no-one coding the spain set already? 20:15:57 <Terkhen> maquinista is coding it, but busy with RL IIRC 20:16:03 <Terkhen> so I'll have to be patient :P 20:16:32 <andythenorth> is it nml or nfo? 20:16:33 <Alberth> or find more coders ;) 20:16:59 <Terkhen> decompiled nfo :D 20:17:04 <Terkhen> with no repo 20:17:19 <supermop> give me a week more drawing and you can code a monorail set for me 20:17:55 <andythenorth> Terkhen: convert it to nml 20:18:41 <Terkhen> I'll wait a few more months 20:18:45 <Terkhen> it's not like I can play now anyways 20:19:30 <andythenorth> bah 20:19:37 <andythenorth> how do I compile with nml? 20:19:47 <andythenorth> pure nmlc, no makefile 20:19:55 <Alberth> nmlc foo.nml 20:20:37 <andythenorth> tada 20:20:45 <andythenorth> so no switches needed :P 20:20:54 <Alberth> you can see the options by using nmlc -h, but it does not have many 20:21:23 * andythenorth was overcomplicating it 20:22:13 <Alberth> you forgot the --i-need-more-options option? 20:23:32 <andythenorth> --null :P 20:27:25 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 20:29:30 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 20:31:14 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-67-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 20:40:48 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest2167 20:40:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:41:01 *** Guest2167 [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:41:17 <andythenorth> bye bye Guest2167 20:43:08 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest2168 20:43:08 *** Guest2168 [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:08 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@host86-169-180-203.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:43:08 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 20:45:24 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:45:56 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52:22 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52:48 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:03:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 21:05:54 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.87.106] has joined #openttd 21:14:46 *** JVassie_ [~James@2.27.87.106] has joined #openttd 21:14:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-28-114-168.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:18:53 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-67-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 23:52:03 <Terkhen> good night 23:57:21 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-23-41-5.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd