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joined #openttd 07:33:08 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:33:09 <__ln__> is there a latin or greek based, scientific-sounding term for taking the dog out for a walk? 07:34:49 *** mkv` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:38:38 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:41:04 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:41:08 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:42:03 <dihedral> cogito ergo *bark* 07:43:01 *** goodger [~ben@94.30.43.248] has joined #openttd 07:43:09 *** mkv` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:15:19 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:17:44 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:17:46 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 08:25:12 *** roboboy 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10:33:39 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:37:08 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:43:54 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:52:14 <V453000> I see the forum section of Problems with OpenTTD is particularly funny 11:11:22 *** Jupix [~jupix@dsl-lprbrasgw1-ff11c100-110.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:11:35 *** Jupix [~jupix@dsl-lprbrasgw1-ff11c100-110.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:15:24 *** orudge` [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 11:17:06 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> charm.oftc.net quits: Born_Acorn, CIA-1, @orudge 11:17:06 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:18:32 *** Netsplit over, joins: CIA-1 11:19:58 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.86.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:21:05 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[~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:37:56 <Eddi|zuHause> symme 14:38:02 <andythenorth> lo 14:38:04 <Eddi|zuHause> err... 14:38:11 <Eddi|zuHause> that was the wrong textbox 14:38:15 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08e55c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:38:32 <peter1138> that's not a very secure password 14:38:42 <Eddi|zuHause> that wasn't even a password :) 14:49:27 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6e48.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:51:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BDB0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:00:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1912E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:00:30 <CornishPasty> Suuure 15:00:33 *** smoovi_ is now known as smoovi 15:03:00 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 15:04:21 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-137-191-29.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:06:42 <LordAro> afternoons 15:06:43 * andythenorth does some low-level ponder 15:07:01 <andythenorth> mostly about how much codeine can safely be eaten for backache 15:07:20 <CornishPasty> eat ALL THE CODEINE! *disclaimer: Not a doctor* 15:07:59 <blathijs> codeine, is that the stuff compilers run on? :-) 15:07:59 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-92-151.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 15:09:21 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 15:12:02 <andythenorth> what does this code do? http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1288/ 15:13:49 <Eddi|zuHause> codeine is basically a "depleted" version of heroine 15:14:47 <CornishPasty> Refined, Eddi|zuHause :P 15:15:05 <CornishPasty> It's still hallucinogenic and addictive 15:15:12 <andythenorth> codeine does not help me understand that industry code 15:15:36 <Eddi|zuHause> CornishPasty: well. "depleted" uranium is still radioactive... 15:15:42 <CornishPasty> Eddi|zuHause: I know :P 15:19:30 * andythenorth wishes industry closure would just go away 15:22:40 <andythenorth> can I remove closure from FIRS? 15:22:42 <andythenorth> it doesn't work 15:22:55 <Terkhen> hello 15:23:01 <andythenorth> Terkhen: :) 15:23:31 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: didn't we have this discussion already a year ago? 15:23:39 <andythenorth> about 7 times 15:23:44 <andythenorth> closure doesn't work 15:23:49 <andythenorth> it's costing me boring support time 15:23:55 <andythenorth> I don't use it in my games 15:23:59 <andythenorth> hence, removal I think 15:24:08 <Eddi|zuHause> in how far is it supposed to "work"? 15:24:17 <andythenorth> I don't know 15:24:55 <andythenorth> seems to be based on transport and/or received cargo 15:24:57 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: why need it be more than a simple switch "no closure"/"default closure"? 15:25:24 <andythenorth> because if I leave it at 'default closure', I get support requests, but I like your idea 15:25:36 <andythenorth> do you have a newsletter? I wish to subscribe... 15:40:12 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-178-000-005-077.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:44:23 <andythenorth> anybody care to comment...is FIRS ok to mark as 1.0? 15:45:38 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-178-000-005-077.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:21 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:48:00 *** mkv` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:48:51 * Zuu usually plays with the default industries. He could say both yes or no :-) 15:50:50 <andythenorth> every time I get a FIRS support request, my heart sinks :P 15:52:06 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:16 *** KouDy [~KouDy@175.137.102.249] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:54:21 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:56:18 <Zuu> I never really got any bug reports from anyone unless asking for them for one of my larger projects. Thus there is not really any point of doing RCs or Betas :-p 15:57:38 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 15:57:50 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:58:40 <Zuu> I have noticed though that while the Windows downloads are more, only 10% of the windows visitors get the program while about 50% of the linux visitors get it. Of course with reservation for errors in the statistics etc. But its an interesting relation. 16:03:38 *** mkv` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:28 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-102-97.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:18:13 <frosch123> andythenorth: does it feature several economies? :p 16:18:27 <andythenorth> nope 16:18:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BDB0.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:06 *** Wing_ [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1912E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:24 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:49:41 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:51:16 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178233179.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:55:06 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@CPE78cd8e5ccf20-CM78cd8e5ccf1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Snail_] 17:01:21 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:04:44 *** jackyf [~jackyf@a88-115-98-41.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:07:14 <jackyf> hi people, I'm trying to understand the cargo delivery start date (and can't find anything about it in wiki): is it the date when the vehicle starts moving away? or the date when the cargo is loaded to the vehicle? or something else? 17:07:41 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:17:29 <Eddi|zuHause> jackyf: when the cargo is loaded 17:17:51 <Belugas> sniff sniff 17:17:57 <Belugas> Jim Marshall died today 17:18:01 <Belugas> age 88 17:18:27 <Belugas> Rest his soul in peace and long live Rock n Roll! 17:18:51 <Eddi|zuHause> no idea who that is 17:21:52 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:24:31 <andythenorth> it goes to 11 17:26:21 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has joined #openttd 17:27:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:29:16 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:29:57 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host139-62-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:33:50 <jackyf> Eddi|zuHause: ack, thanks. 17:34:08 *** jackyf [~jackyf@a88-115-98-41.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #openttd [No matter how dark the night, somehow the Sun rises once again] 17:34:15 <Wolf01> evenink 17:41:37 *** Biolunar_ [~mahdi@blfd-5d820574.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:41:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24094 /trunk/src/lang/ (finnish.txt latvian.txt polish.txt vietnamese.txt): 17:41:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:41:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: finnish - 3 changes by jpx_ 17:41:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 11 changes by Parastais 17:41:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: polish - 20 changes by Kilian 17:42:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: vietnamese - 2 changes by myquartz 17:47:11 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08e55c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7466C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54:44 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7466C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:53 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-158-199-160.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:19:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:20:13 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:20:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:21:55 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 18:27:51 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27:57 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 18:28:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 18:33:03 * Alberth knocks on the channel 18:33:33 *** andythenorth is now known as channel 18:33:38 <channel> channel knocks back 18:33:47 <Alberth> hi channel! 18:33:55 *** channel is now known as tompertomper 18:34:09 *** tompertomper is now known as isitdoneyet 18:34:17 <oskari89> :D 18:34:39 <Alberth> glad there is still life here :) 18:35:15 <isitdoneyet> there is? 18:35:25 <isitdoneyet> far as I can see, it's just me, moaning 18:35:52 <Alberth> nothing exciting happened? 18:36:31 *** Tintinfan [4e96b94b@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:36:36 <Alberth> apparently not :) 18:36:36 <Tintinfan> Hello! 18:36:40 <Alberth> hi 18:37:24 <Tintinfan> hmm does anybody here have any knoweldge on .tcl files :/ 18:37:46 <Alberth> yeah, that's quite on-topic :D 18:38:07 <Alberth> I have last seen them I think 12 years ago or so :) 18:38:18 <Tintinfan> Well I am trying toget autopilot ap+ to work on a VPS 18:38:38 <Tintinfan> however, the .tcl file refuses to load. 18:39:22 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause: Jim Marshall is the founder of the Marshall amps company. He's the one who created those superb amps that defined the sound of rock and metal for such a long period of tine :) 18:39:30 <Belugas> was the founder 18:39:33 *** Sahri [~IceChat77@52494455.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: 'Till all are one!] 18:39:39 <Tintinfan> arrrghhh i think it might work now 18:39:48 <Tintinfan> the joys of linux command line 18:40:18 * Alberth enjoys that much indeed :) 18:40:28 <Tintinfan> well it doest seem to work anyway :/ 18:40:47 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause: he created his first amps out of the Fender amps, at that time, so England could have their own british amps (Fender been american) 18:40:48 <Alberth> ok, problem solved thus, and I didn't even ask a counter question :p 18:41:03 <Tintinfan> gah the problems have only just started! 18:41:25 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41:27 <Tintinfan> want the error? :P 18:41:34 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-61-40.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:42:15 <Alberth> wow, it's as recent as Nov 2011. I thought it was long dead 18:42:24 <Tintinfan> lol 18:42:50 <Alberth> Tintinfan: if it makes you feel better :) It is about 100% certain I won't know what to do with it :) 18:43:43 <Alberth> don't know about autopilot stuff either, sorry 18:46:32 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-14-240.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:47:01 <Tintinfan> lol 18:47:10 <Tintinfan> well this seems tobe a pain :P 18:48:09 <Alberth> automagic systems always are 18:50:37 <Alberth> but nobody seems to bother to make a better solution available 18:51:06 <Alberth> not that we really need it, given that we often have more servers than online players 18:53:31 *** Biolunar_ [~mahdi@blfd-5d820574.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:02 <Alberth> nice, I even installed LaTeX :) 19:01:52 *** Tintinfan [4e96b94b@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:03:19 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 19:09:26 *** Firartix [~artixds@12.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 19:15:10 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176111076.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 19:15:13 <drac_boy> hi 19:15:16 <xiong> Hey, did RC4 move openttd.cfg? It started with a few settings wrong; I checked and the file is fine. 19:17:23 <drac_boy> xiong looks like that actually makes two of us now weirdly enough, I think theres something broken about ottd not checking its own place first 19:18:22 <xiong> In fact, what I just said makes no sense. Virtually all settings, grfs, and so forth were properly set. The game must have loaded the file. 19:18:34 <Rubidium> I'd be surprised if it did 19:18:50 <xiong> ???? 19:18:51 <Rubidium> but... maybe you've been playing with some patched versions of OpenTTD 19:19:03 <xiong> Did *what*? 19:19:19 <xiong> Previous game played with RC2. 19:21:21 <xiong> The lost settings all seem to do with maintenance. I had the intervals set to percents; and fairly well tuned, too, I thought. I just discovered that the reason I'm having so many breakdowns is that my maints were all in days. 19:22:00 <drac_boy> so hmm zxbiohazardxz isn't here but anyone else interested in a quick but decent game using chrill's ottd build? 19:22:16 <FLHerne> Is the most recent infra-sharing patch actually for r22944? 19:22:26 <Rubidium> that's ancient so it breaks my configuration file ;) 19:22:49 <FLHerne> It doesn't apply cleanly to it 19:22:52 <Rubidium> FLHerne: doesn't sound wrong; maybe it's included in some patch pack 19:23:04 <Rubidium> FLHerne: it doesn't apply to r22944? 19:23:11 <FLHerne> That's right :-P 19:23:22 <Rubidium> then it's not for r22944 19:23:40 <FLHerne> Seems like r22943 might work though, the times in the files match better 19:23:55 <Rubidium> r22944 is only language changes 19:24:16 <xiong> I'm sorry, Rubidium; do you have some insight on this? Is the issue obvious but I can't see it? 19:24:37 * drac_boy was going to host it for the record 19:25:04 <FLHerne> Well, may as well try it anyway...definitely claims to be for 22944, I even checked out the source again just in case 19:25:24 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db0f385.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:38 <xiong> I now have 72 RVs and 8 trains, all of which have maint intervals of 150%. Either I abandon the game or manually change each vehicle; I don't know of another solution. You might say I'd like to know how I got here. 19:26:10 <xiong> {Apart from the obvious point that I might have checked this before playing too many years.} 19:28:53 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:30:48 <FLHerne> Hmm. Predictably, r22943 doesn't work either. Any ideas why that would be? 19:31:20 <FLHerne> Patch from http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42254&start=440#p972050 19:31:22 <drac_boy> btw just wondering about it but would it had been a 0-4-4 or something else for a steam railmotor that had one chassis atop two bogies but only the front one is driven? 19:32:37 <xiong> Oh that's right. The autorenew settings were blown away, too. Just those: autorenew and maint. 19:34:01 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: i don't think that scheme neatly applies to anything other than pure steam engines 19:34:51 <drac_boy> thats what I was wondering about too. so just call it a 'steam coach' rather than providing the usual axle numbering then I'm going to assume 19:35:08 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: you don't call a wagon a 4-0-4 either 19:35:20 <drac_boy> ha its not powered :P 19:35:22 <Rubidium> FLHerne: don't use that diff; it seems to be made by someone without much understanding of diff and/or conflict solving 19:35:25 <xiong> Okay, I seem to have found a cutting point on this issue. I start a new game from scratch and settings are all okay. I start from the scenario I created and it's all wrong. But I'm quite certain I did not touch those settings when I created the scenario. Is this a bug or a short between hat and seat? 19:35:27 <drac_boy> btw there is something else I did recall from a website before tho... 19:35:44 <Rubidium> FLHerne: e.g. in the first 'screen' of the diff I already see an unresolved conflict 19:36:29 <FLHerne> Ah, ok. I'll try the one before and see if that works 19:36:56 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:37:07 * FLHerne tries to stick lots of patches together, with limited success 19:37:28 <drac_boy> it explained the whyte system. eg an odd french locomotive might had been a 2-2-4 except that the problem is that it actually had three drive axles not one 19:38:01 <drac_boy> under the whyte system it was a hmm..I forgot now .. but you get the idea :-/ 19:38:30 <drac_boy> the photo looked like a normal 0-6-0T except that an idler axle was added near middle due to rail weight restrictions 19:38:55 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i know that website 19:39:03 <Eddi|zuHause> don't remember what it's called though 19:40:32 <drac_boy> at least diesel and electrics are easier to make sense of 19:40:34 <Eddi|zuHause> the french system has the same problem of describing this engine properly, though. they just count the axles instead of the wheels. so what an english person would call a 0-6-0 a french person would call a 030 19:40:48 <drac_boy> letter for powered axle and number for unpowered axle..or afaik 19:40:49 <xiong> Okay, I have duplicated this. I have entered the editor, checked settings, created the required single town, saved and rechecked the settings. Then I exited the editor and "played" the scenario; and without doing anything else, I first checked settings. 19:41:08 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: yes, that's the german system 19:41:10 <drac_boy> so we would have eg A1A-B .... C-C .... B ... etc 19:41:52 <xiong> Essentially, all the settings for autorenew and maintenance have been lost. Is this a bug or a feature? 19:42:07 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: that would make your steam railcar a B'2' 19:42:16 <Eddi|zuHause> ' denotes a movable bogey 19:42:34 <Eddi|zuHause> (instead of a fixed axle) 19:42:51 <drac_boy> I wonder if that technically would make Lima Shay a B'B' and B'B'B' but I have never heard anyone using that tho 19:43:02 <drac_boy> :) 19:43:06 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure what a shay is 19:43:26 <drac_boy> its a geared locomotive, originally built for cheaply laid logging rails but soon found other uses too 19:43:56 <drac_boy> I think it was specific to north america although a few examples ended up exported to other countries too (not to count out that mexico got a few too) 19:44:58 <Eddi|zuHause> if each axle is driven by a separate engine, it would be a Bo'Bo', if they are connected to the same engine, it's B'B' 19:45:53 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. most modern electric engines are Bo'Bo', some are Co'Co' 19:46:38 <drac_boy> you know that thats probably how they came up with the name for that green diesel in Thomas didn't you? ;) 19:46:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never seen Thomas 19:47:24 <Eddi|zuHause> the germans built a steam engine with axle scheme 1'Do1' 19:47:27 <drac_boy> http://www.percyengine.com/images/Boco.jpg just so you know 19:47:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. 4 separately driven axles, instead of being connected by rods 19:47:41 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:47:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6e48.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47:55 <supermop> hi 19:48:06 <Alberth> hi 19:48:24 <drac_boy> hi alberth 19:48:41 <Eddi|zuHause> in whyte-notation that would be something obscure like "2-2-0+0-2-0+0-2-0+0-2-2" 19:50:03 <drac_boy> btw eddi I found the source of the locomotive I was thinking of and it was 4-2-2 not 2-2-4 but still same "problem" exists nevertheless... 19:50:31 <drac_boy> http://www.aqpl43.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/belgian/smashsys.htm scroll down to the one photo you see and theres the headscratcher :-) 19:50:42 <Eddi|zuHause> it had 8 pistons, each axle being driven by a pair of pistons 19:51:05 <Eddi|zuHause> http://schneider-mayenfisch.com/drg_lokomotiven_19_1001.htm <- that has some pictures 19:51:45 <drac_boy> btw eddi german actually had another steam locomotive that had 2 pistons per axle (in a V2 shape..almost like the engine in your car) 19:52:08 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the one i mean as well 19:52:25 <Eddi|zuHause> see the link 19:52:57 <drac_boy> ah yeah should had looked first, thats the one 19:53:23 <drac_boy> interesting that they took the body shape of the BR.05 19:54:33 <drac_boy> so what did you think of that supposed 4-2-2? :) 19:54:40 <Eddi|zuHause> why not? streamlining was "in fashion" back then. and this was supposed to be an express engine 19:55:16 <drac_boy> yeah, there is that other german streamline I liked but I sometimes keep forgetting the class number too often 19:55:37 <Eddi|zuHause> it had some problems starting up, but once it was running it was pretty smooth, because not a lot of vibrating mechanical components 19:55:44 <drac_boy> it was a streamlined tank locomotive (not something you usually would think of) for short express trips. and painted in purple+yellow which also matched the coaches it hauled 19:55:57 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: that's the BR 61 19:56:31 <drac_boy> heh thanks 19:56:47 <drac_boy> who else ever did streamlined tank locomotives after all? ;) 19:56:51 <Eddi|zuHause> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henschel-Wegmann-Zug 19:57:31 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: the idea was to save time by not having to turn the engine around 19:57:59 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: however, bought with the additional cost of refilling on both ends of the line 20:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: there's another streamlined tank engine. the BR 60 of the 1936 double-decker trains 20:00:09 <Eddi|zuHause> it didn't go as fast, though 20:00:21 <Eddi|zuHause> but it could operate in push-pull service 20:00:27 <Eddi|zuHause> so didn't need to move to the other end 20:04:48 <Rubidium> what an ugly train 20:04:59 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176111076.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:15 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:14:02 <Achilleshiel> anyone knows what the min. income is in the performence? 20:14:39 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176111076.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 20:14:47 <drac_boy> sorry had some problem with stupid bell :-s 20:16:16 <drac_boy> so anyhow the offer's still open for if anyone want try a quick game later on ^_^ 20:16:56 <Alberth> Achilleshiel: I would guess the smallest income of a vehicle 20:18:32 <Alberth> lol, there is a wiki page, http://wiki.openttd.org/Detailed_Performance_Rating but nobody bothered to add an explanation of the items :) 20:18:48 <Achilleshiel> i noticed:P 20:18:58 * drac_boy never bother with that one particular graph at all 20:19:01 <drac_boy> :P 20:19:08 * Alberth hasn't either 20:19:41 <Alberth> Achilleshiel: maybe you can do that? 20:19:50 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 20:21:23 <Achilleshiel> maybe, but the min. income and min. profit 20:21:31 <Achilleshiel> are still weird 20:24:34 <Alberth> tooltip does not explain? 20:25:05 <drac_boy> hmm...to have battery locomotives or not 20:26:18 <Alberth> good for transporting batteries to the toy factory :) 20:26:28 <Alberth> Achilleshiel: it does for me 20:26:43 <Achilleshiel> Alberth: here either:P 20:26:52 <Achilleshiel> but you have to wait for centuries 20:27:08 <Achilleshiel> i will place it on my todo-list:P 20:27:12 <Alberth> switch it to the right mouse button :p 20:27:12 *** isitdoneyet [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 20:27:52 * FLHerne finishes updating infra-sharing to current trunk (hopefully) 20:27:58 <Achilleshiel> yeah, i knew that:P 20:28:55 <FLHerne> or not, quite a few errors left it seems 20:29:10 <Alberth> FLHerne: until the next Translator commit :) 20:29:46 <FLHerne> this updating thing is a nuisance, especially without much experience with the language 20:30:13 <FLHerne> I'll probably try again tomorrow 20:30:37 <drac_boy> alberth you're funny..I was thinking of real battery locomotives :p 20:32:15 <Eddi|zuHause> FLHerne: do smaller steps in the update process at a time. like max 100 revisions, check if there are no conflicts or whether they are easy to resolve. then save your intermediate work in a new diff file and go on. if you find really difficult conflicts, go back to the previous state, and make even smaller steps 20:32:57 <Eddi|zuHause> FLHerne: if you know which exact revision conflicts, then that usually has also information in it how to resolve them 20:33:11 <FLHerne> That's what I've been doing, mostly 20:33:41 <FLHerne> It's just that I resolve the conflicts wrong sometimes, and then it doesn't work :-( 20:34:39 <FLHerne> Luckily, there don't seem to be many major changes, so enough trial & error should get me there eventually :P 20:38:11 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 20:38:48 <Eddi|zuHause> well, infrastructure sharing really doesn't do much beyond removing some artificial "is this the same company" checks 20:42:04 <FLHerne> It probably should do more actually - there are some problems from a gameplay POV 20:42:23 <FLHerne> Convenient for me that it doesn't, though... 20:44:30 <drac_boy> just wondering, can you have a town building that does appear but not end up in too many numbers regardingly of population size? 20:47:50 *** michi_cc [~michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Quit: michi_cc] 20:52:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-189-104.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:52:31 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:57:32 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-14-2.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:15 <DDR> RC4's looking good. Nice work. 20:58:35 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-78-45-92-151.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:05:10 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@213-186-253-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:10:40 <Eddi|zuHause> FLHerne: but those are some fairly fundamental conceptual problems. the actual implementation is probably rather trivial 21:11:15 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:12:12 <Eddi|zuHause> FLHerne: i had an unfinished and probably buggy patch that removed transfer payment, it always payed actual money for each leg. but this is one giant abuse loophole 21:13:43 <FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause: Because you can send cargo in circles endlessly? 21:13:52 <Eddi|zuHause> FLHerne: yes 21:14:00 <drac_boy> eddi yeah better to just leave it as "paid" in the vehicle profits but not really yet paid till the final vehicle actually arrives to its real endpoint 21:14:04 <Chris_Booth> You show the lights that stop me turn to stone 21:14:12 <drac_boy> am I right? 21:14:30 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: that's what it does currently. but with that you cannot distribute the income amongst companies 21:15:04 <drac_boy> eddi ah yeah I think jamie was complaining a bit about that when he saw very little profits even although he had a lot of passengers, most of them were transfering off to the other two companies :-s 21:15:07 <FLHerne> Perhaps log the distance travelled by each vehicle, then calculate and pay for each leg when the cargo is delivered? 21:15:18 <drac_boy> I guess thats a hard problem .. I dunno what to tell you :-/ 21:15:26 <FLHerne> To the final destination I mean 21:15:26 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: the company making the final delivery will get all the money 21:15:51 <Chris_Booth> You shine It when I'm alone 21:16:17 <Eddi|zuHause> FLHerne: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=54440 21:16:32 <drac_boy> flherne one thing I could think would be to put in an additional check that checked that the cargo did actually unload at the end of the line before paying all player(s) in question? 21:16:45 <drac_boy> so that'll avoid the loophole where A and B keep passing off to each others 21:18:02 <Chris_Booth> what about C drac_boy ? 21:18:05 <FLHerne> What I meant was to count how far each vehicle carried a packet, then on delivery to an industry the profit would be shared according to relative distance by each vehicle 21:18:34 <drac_boy> flherne it'll be interesting to see that 21:19:13 *** michi_cc [~michi@p5B041CB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:19:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 21:19:15 <Eddi|zuHause> FLHerne: a cargopacket can only be of a fixed size, so remembering something "for each vehicle" is a fundamental design change 21:19:36 <Eddi|zuHause> FLHerne: ways to achieve that were discussed in the above topic 21:20:06 * FLHerne alternates between reading and typing 21:20:47 <drac_boy> heh I'm doing the same too flherne....typing a lot more into my table here 21:20:55 <drac_boy> not feeling like drawing yet .. maybe tonight or tomorrow :) 21:23:00 <Eddi|zuHause> FLHerne: basically the idea was that for each loading into a vehicle, you create a new cargo packet with the same "amount" of cargo, linking the previous one. then you have the whole history available at the delivery. with the cost of larger and more fragmented memory footprint 21:26:10 * FLHerne 's 21:26:21 <FLHerne> oh, that works does it? 21:26:58 <Rubidium> that's going to explode even more than you think, as now packets are much less likely to be merged due to the difference in history 21:27:13 * FLHerne 's keyboard is invaded by dwarf hamsters 21:27:27 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i think trying to merge packets is useless, actually 21:27:37 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: unless at the source station 21:28:18 <Rubidium> currently it's far from useless 21:28:19 <Chris_Booth> Eddi|zuHause: I think France is useless but that is a different topic 21:28:35 <drac_boy> heh flherne 21:29:15 <FLHerne> Luckily 25 grams is too little to press the keys down, which makes them an improvement on rats :P 21:29:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: anyway, you can't solve the problem sufficiently without recording the full transport history 21:29:22 <Rubidium> as you'd get 4-6 packets into each vehicle of a train and in 95% of the time they can be merged 21:29:51 <Rubidium> just due to gradual loading alone 21:31:17 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: but that is already more like 75%, because there might be an "age" step between two loading steps 21:32:37 <Wolf01> 'night 21:32:43 <Chris_Booth> night Wolf01 21:32:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host139-62-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:34:02 <Rubidium> in any case, currently trying to merge packets costs less time than the extra time needed for iterating over the unmerged packets (loading/unloading/aging) 21:34:03 *** Sahri [~IceChat77@52494455.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:34:24 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1912E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:35:12 <Rubidium> so even if you keep a pointer with history in the cargo packets, you'll spend more time with just moving/aging cargo packets 21:35:27 * drac_boy needs to thank purno for that old but helpful drawing tutorial one day 21:36:05 <Rubidium> hmm... compile speed of roughly 1 file per 2 minutes. OpenTTD's going to take a while till completion 21:36:22 <drac_boy> rubidium what computer is this? 21:36:41 <Rubidium> sparc 21:36:48 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:36:56 <FLHerne> I'll bet it's faster than my Powerbook :P 21:36:56 <Rubidium> although emulated 21:37:34 <drac_boy> hmm well if its x86 as a host I'm not too surprised 21:37:57 <FLHerne> also, why are you compiling for SPARC anyway? 21:38:29 <Rubidium> a bug report 21:38:38 <Eddi|zuHause> "because he can" :p 21:38:51 <Rubidium> though I couldn't reprodue the issue on PPC 21:38:58 <FLHerne> Someone reported a bug on SPARC!? 21:39:09 <Rubidium> yes 21:39:10 <__ln__> why not 21:39:24 <Rubidium> anyhow, I'm weird ;) 21:39:31 <FLHerne> True..."why not" answers anything 21:39:34 <Rubidium> I've also ran an OpenTTD server on s390 21:40:28 * __ln__ has run OTTD on Solaris/SPARC 21:41:31 * FLHerne tried on m68k, but without much success 21:41:38 <drac_boy> just wondering but any idea on a different term to use for the few locomotives here rather than 'light' 'heavy' etc? or is that the better way to go even although its not perfect? 21:42:23 <Rubidium> sissy / monster? 21:42:31 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-137-191-29.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:42:39 <drac_boy> heh thats a funny one 21:42:54 <__ln__> i have also created patches for compiling OTTD on Solaris... so i fail to see what's so strange about someone reporting a bug on SPARC. :) 21:43:56 <Rubidium> compiling file #14 21:44:31 <drac_boy> rubidium the reason I was wondering about it was because "heavy" just does not seem to really mean what it does when its only heavy in one but not both senses 21:44:41 <drac_boy> but I could just stick with it if I have to 21:44:51 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:45:03 <FLHerne> Never having even seen a SPARC machine, I was surprised that anyone played OTTD on one :P 21:45:29 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: you should come back tomorrow then :p 21:45:36 <drac_boy> flherne I have had thought a bit about one sparc computer but the problem is the high cost just in the cpu alone so its not worth the hassles 21:45:43 <FLHerne> As a persistent m68k and PPC user, I probably shouldn't have been 21:46:31 <drac_boy> I do keep wondering about being able to get one particular acorn computer tho 21:47:53 <FLHerne> Which kind? 21:48:49 <Rubidium> obviously http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/AcornSystem1.jpg ;) 21:49:03 <drac_boy> that one http://atterer.org/sites/atterer/files/2010-04/acorn-arm/riscpc.jpeg 21:49:18 <drac_boy> you're too funny rubidium :p 21:49:33 <FLHerne> Very beige :P 21:50:22 <FLHerne> My own dream computer would be a G5 quad, but they're still expensive :-( 21:52:02 <drac_boy> FLHerne heh here they go for about 0-00cad depending on configuration and re whether have or not have a lcd to go with it 21:52:11 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i don't get this keyboard. it's missing some letters, and they're in a weird order 21:52:35 <drac_boy> 0 usually gets you just the single-1.6 or -1.8 with the base graphic card and maybe keyboard thrown in but no lcd 21:53:58 * Rubidium wonders why an ancient computer could be a dream computer. Isn't one that looks great, does anything you want (almost) instantly, uses very little energy and make no noise besides the sound that's played through the sound card 21:54:25 <Rubidium> also, why is it pay -> paid and play -> played? 21:54:27 <FLHerne> drac_boy I know - I keep looking out for them. I also finally saw your IRC PM thingy 21:54:28 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.86.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:59 <Rubidium> ohoh... ai_instance.cpp 21:55:00 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 21:55:02 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: because they're silly, these brits 21:55:55 <Eddi|zuHause> (i'm sure i researched the proper translation for this phrase before, but i keep forgetting) 21:56:10 <Terkhen> good night 21:56:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1912E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:16 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:03:16 <FLHerne> 'night 22:03:24 <drac_boy> going out to eat so..bye for now :) 22:03:27 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176111076.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 22:03:31 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:05:45 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:12:06 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-61-40.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:48 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@d99-199-14-2.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:15:20 <michi_cc> Rubidium: I hope the sparc OS is at least sane. I once tried to compile OTTD on a PA_RISC system with HP-UX, which is truely the most shitty system I've ever seen. I gave up after I finding syntax errors in system supplied header files. 22:18:53 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:16 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-14-2.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:30 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 22:44:15 *** Firartix [~artixds@12.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:38 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:57:59 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 22:59:20 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:00:25 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:14:43 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176111076.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 23:14:45 <drac_boy> hi 23:16:40 *** Ad-Rufio [5ec47b69@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:17:24 *** Ad-Rufio [5ec47b69@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [] 23:30:50 *** cl8 [~cl88@host-92-3-240-31.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 23:35:33 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db0f385.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us] 23:53:13 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.114.232.180.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd