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#openttd 09:59:39 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.151.112] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 10:08:21 *** Jupix [~jupix@dsl-lprbrasgw1-ff11c100-110.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:18:26 <adamkex> how can i enable newgrf on my server? 10:20:28 <Hazzard> Is it dedicated? 10:21:26 <adamkex> Yeah 10:21:35 <adamkex> i copied the tars over and my openttd.cnf 10:21:49 <adamkex> everything in [newgrf] gets erased 10:22:18 <Hazzard> I actually don't know how to 10:23:06 <adamkex> hm 10:23:34 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-223-176.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:23:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:23:49 <Hazzard> Did you seach online? 10:25:00 <adamkex> yes, the wiki says nothing 10:25:28 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:25:45 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 10:26:11 *** cypher [~Miranda@wced-196-219-32-147.feld.cvut.cz] 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 10:27:31 <adamkex> is there anyway to make openttd more verbose? 10:27:44 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 10:28:59 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.131.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:29:14 *** Jupix [~jupix@dsl-lprbrasgw1-ff11c100-110.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:29:15 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [] 10:29:38 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 10:29:39 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-113-210.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> adamkex: with the "debug_level" command or the "-d" parameter 10:35:04 <adamkex> Eddi|zuHause: ok i will try it 10:35:08 <adamkex> if it doesn't work now 10:35:30 <Eddi|zuHause> like "-d misc=3" or "-d grf=3" 10:35:37 <Eddi|zuHause> or something 10:35:45 <adamkex> now it worked, openttd does not do case sensitive files in windows 10:35:52 <adamkex> and doesn't seem to extract tars on linux 10:39:09 <Ammler> self build or download? 10:39:15 <adamkex> gentoo 10:39:26 <adamkex> USE="dedicated openmedia png -aplaymidi -debug -iconv -icu -lzo -timidity -truetype -zlib" 10:40:10 <Ammler> so you should talk to the maintainer there 10:41:04 <Ammler> in the meantime, you could use a bundle from openttd.org, those should work 10:41:11 <adamkex> it works now 10:42:10 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 10:42:11 <drac_boy> hi 10:42:21 <adamkex> the main 2 problems were that the linux version did not untar the newgrf and the windows version did not use a case sensitive config 10:42:42 <drac_boy> ? 10:42:48 <adamkex> and linux is usually case sensitive 10:42:58 <adamkex> Eddi|zuHause: thank you 10:44:16 <adamkex> and i did not build the windows version 10:49:47 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:51:26 <adamkex> but i might have done something wrong 10:51:35 <adamkex> at least it works now 10:54:40 <drac_boy> adamkex I've sometimes found windows a bit difficult to deal with at times. especially when it asks if you want to replace one with others when coping both text file 'drafts' and folder 'drafts' :-s 10:54:42 *** KouDy1 [~AndChat48@175.137.99.36] has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:54:58 <drac_boy> and don't ask me about unicode symbols neither 10:56:16 *** krinn [~krinn@80.54.71.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:43 <adamkex> drac_boy: the issue seemed to be about case sensitivity, but it's solved now, the my newgrfs work now :) 10:56:45 <krinn> hi all 10:58:13 <drac_boy> adamkex believe it or not but I do sometimes have days where I got both TODO.txt and todo.txt in the same folder .. another way to confuse windows when it tries to read the ext hd :-p 10:58:28 <drac_boy> never tried with linux yet so hm dunno how it'll react 10:58:41 <drac_boy> hi krinn 10:59:41 <adamkex> well i am running a linux dedicated server with my friends :) 10:59:57 <drac_boy> adamkex btw by newgrfs do you mean your own or just simply downloaded ones? 11:00:04 <drac_boy> oh ok 11:00:50 <adamkex> Ammler: the so called admin interface that i should be able to connect to, is it the same interface of the one when i just host a game using the windows binary? 11:01:14 <drac_boy> how're you krinn? 11:01:28 <adamkex> drac_boy: downloaded ones 11:01:56 <krinn> drac_boy, fine, thanks 11:03:12 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03:55 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 11:07:50 <drac_boy> what doing krinn? 11:07:51 <Ammler> adamkex: and you ask me that because? 11:08:01 <krinn> drac_boy, working on SPC 11:08:05 <drac_boy> spc? 11:08:16 <krinn> SCP 11:08:20 <krinn> mistake 11:08:40 <Ammler> but yes, I assume, both linux and windows support the admin interface, but I am not aware of any server using it 11:08:52 <drac_boy> hm which scp? heh 11:09:01 <krinn> http://wiki.openttd.org/Script_communication_protocol 11:09:11 <drac_boy> oh ok, have fun either way 11:09:15 <drac_boy> :) 11:09:39 <krinn> eheh i'm :) 11:11:33 <adamkex> Ammler: you seem to be very knowledgable, but i found out that i should use rcon to control the server 11:12:15 <Ammler> hehe 11:13:05 <Ammler> you misinterpreted, but you should anyway not highlight people for generic questions ;-) 11:13:39 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:40 <drac_boy> hmm should work on my tracking table a bit more later..not looked at anything for the whole week 11:13:59 <adamkex> :p 11:14:27 <Ammler> on windows, you don't have a console, there the admin interface might be very useful 11:14:51 <drac_boy> still wondered how common carbody diesels were world-wise 11:15:02 <drac_boy> I only know of them in north america and uk for most part 11:26:28 <NGC3982> is there a way to revert a grf back to nml, gfx and a language file? 11:26:50 <drac_boy> NGC3982 grfcodec can't do that..or can it? I dunno tbh 11:27:16 <NGC3982> just for experimenting, that is. 11:27:23 <peter1138> no 11:27:38 <peter1138> it's a bit like decompiling a C program 11:27:59 <NGC3982> ok. 11:28:17 <NGC3982> bah. i can barely irc on this connection. 11:29:37 <NGC3982> well, the thing is. i think i got a decent grip on making simple grfs. what i want to know more about is changing an industry 11:30:07 <NGC3982> and i guess looking at the nml code from a industry grf would help me. 11:37:43 <Ammler> where do I see the __DATE__ and __TIME__ from rev.cpp? 11:38:36 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:41:36 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: on windows, in the properties page? 11:53:50 *** TWerkhoven2 [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:54:14 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 11:55:16 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:57:02 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: hehe, and where/how on good old linux? 11:58:48 <Ammler> NGC3982: which industry grf you are interested in does not provide sources? 11:58:55 <Ammler> maybe ask the author then 11:59:25 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: no idea... never crossed my mind to look for it 12:00:34 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: possibly in the crash log 12:00:36 <Ammler> I tought, it is in the gamelog 12:00:46 <Ammler> how do I create a crash log without crash? 12:00:55 <Ammler> or how do I trigger a crash? 12:01:09 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a key combination if you compiled a debug version 12:08:09 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:08:43 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:61d6:10a:9357:1ba2] has joined #openttd 12:08:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:09:23 *** Sara [~Thomas@195.117.110.93] has joined #openttd 12:09:56 *** Sara [~Thomas@195.117.110.93] has quit [] 12:48:46 *** krinn [~krinn@80.54.71.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:55 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable085.125-161-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 13:03:53 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-153.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:40:59 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.131.207] has joined #openttd 13:47:35 *** Hexxeh [u1532@irccloud.com] has quit [] 13:57:28 <Terkhen> hello 14:03:54 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-153.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:33 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.151.112] has joined #openttd 14:31:43 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has joined #openttd 14:33:19 *** Hazzard [~7b743c11@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:25 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 14:43:44 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@kamina.ldn1.uk.e43.eu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:29 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@kamina.ldn1.uk.e43.eu] has joined #openttd 15:01:59 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.151.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:02:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f72ef.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:06:27 * Rubidium wonders who's having the most railway related nick name in this channel. I'd go for frosch = frog (part of a switch) 15:07:50 <frosch123> only part of switches? 15:08:18 <frosch123> aren't there four of them on every tie? 15:09:01 <__ln__> Rubidium: how about the nick 'rails' 15:09:54 <Rubidium> are those called frogs as well? I can't find any easy trace of that 15:09:59 <Rubidium> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_turnout#Frog_.28common_crossing.29 15:10:05 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-19-137.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:13:37 <frosch123> that thing is something entirely different to what i considered a "frosch" on rails 15:13:44 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196.215.173.27] has joined #openttd 15:17:04 *** telanus1 [~Barney_Er@196.215.173.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:29 <frosch123> hmm, seems like english frog and german frosch are different things 15:21:38 *** th_gergo [~thiering@hardin.fat.bme.hu] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:21:45 <frosch123> a frosch is indeed a rail clamp 15:21:51 *** th_gergo [~thiering@hardin.fat.bme.hu] has joined #openttd 15:31:29 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41:57 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 15:46:01 *** TWerkhoven2 is now known as TWerkhoven 15:55:13 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:55:16 <supermop> hi! 16:06:17 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.151.112] has joined #openttd 16:21:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AC06.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:27:07 <supermop> I think rail blue would look nice on a bike frame 16:27:19 <supermop> not sure where to fit the large logo 16:34:15 <supermop> yellow wheels of course 16:45:17 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 17:07:13 <Nat_aS> morning 17:09:38 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:09:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:10:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host109-154-181-200.range109-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:10:51 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host81-154-230-134.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:10:52 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host81-154-230-134.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 17:12:48 <Alberth> hi andy 17:13:40 <andythenorth> lo 17:14:32 <Alberth> threatening to release a new version works :p 17:15:16 <andythenorth> "never ever promise release dates" 17:15:22 <andythenorth> I thought that was the rule? :P 17:15:33 <andythenorth> specially as I haven't written the code for this release 17:15:41 <andythenorth> and I have to work all weekend on real work 17:16:00 <andythenorth> :) 17:16:28 <Alberth> :) 17:21:58 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest574 17:21:58 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@host-78-148-170-202.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:58 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 17:24:04 *** Guest574 [~Andy@host109-154-181-200.range109-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:31 *** Firartix [~artixds@127.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 17:28:53 *** th_gergo [~thiering@hardin.fat.bme.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:39:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24198 /trunk/src/lang/ (korean.txt polish.txt ukrainian.txt): 17:39:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:39:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: korean - 2 changes by telk5093 17:39:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: polish - 46 changes by Kilian 17:39:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: ukrainian - 3 changes by edd_k 17:49:45 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:52:45 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 17:52:48 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:59:00 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:01:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-223-176.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:01:50 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has joined #openttd 18:01:55 <Wolf01> 'evenink 18:02:52 *** johnboy [5adfa230@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:04:04 <johnboy> hey im needing some help, i have downloaded the uk V3 but have a problem, its not letting me upload the new cargo any help? 18:04:20 <Alberth> upload? 18:04:32 <johnboy> sorry load 18:04:50 * Alberth is looking for an openttd 18:05:37 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:05:40 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-88-176.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:06:56 <Alberth> oh, the scenario is completely broken 18:07:17 <Alberth> it does not have a vehicle grf loaded to transport the cargoes 18:09:35 <Alberth> just delete the scenario, it's useless 18:10:34 <Alberth> not to mention it is way too big for single player 18:11:14 <Wolf01> happened to me too with the 2cc-train-set 18:11:50 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-31-254.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:11:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:12:48 <johnboy> i wouldnt say useless and also maybe but i do like it 18:13:29 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 18:14:13 <johnboy> just wondering if anyone knew how to sort it 18:15:09 <johnboy> thank you 18:15:25 <Alberth> write a more useful scenario editor where you can change newgrfs after opening the editor, I am afraid 18:16:14 <Alberth> less work is to rescue the heightmap, and make a new scenario 18:17:02 <johnboy> i was a afraid of that, im sort of a lazy sod haha thank you tho 18:17:34 <Alberth> even less work is to rescue the heightmap and use that to generate a new game :p 18:17:56 <Alberth> it won't be RL-like though :) 18:18:06 <FLHerne> The towns would be in the wrong place :P 18:18:24 <Alberth> FLHerne: an alternative earth :) 18:19:29 <Alberth> on the other hand, you could play thre sub-tropical climate then :) 18:21:19 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest586 18:21:19 *** Guest586 [~Andy@host-78-148-170-202.as13285.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:19 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@host-78-148-170-202.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:19 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 18:23:01 *** xQR [xor@the.x-base.org] has quit [Quit: www.x-base.org] 18:31:07 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest587 18:31:07 *** Guest587 [~Andy@host-78-148-170-202.as13285.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:07 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@host-78-148-170-202.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:07 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 18:31:21 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 18:31:39 <andythenorth> we should make a teeny-tiny grf 18:31:41 <andythenorth> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=478273 18:35:00 <Alberth> brickland trains! 18:35:59 <andythenorth> just do small 18:35:59 <andythenorth> 2px or so 18:35:59 <andythenorth> everything teeny tiny 18:35:59 <andythenorth> industries 1 tile 18:36:08 <andythenorth> 1tile is a city block, not a house 18:37:19 <andythenorth> all vehicles max 1/8 long 18:37:19 <andythenorth> ships could be ocean-going scale! 18:37:36 * andythenorth wonders how fast this could be pixel-generated 18:38:15 <andythenorth> do it like a map 18:38:17 <FLHerne> Surely the roads would look silly? 18:38:37 <andythenorth> they'd be motorway sized 18:38:41 <FLHerne> Or have eyecandy city-blocks next to tiny roads? 18:38:49 <andythenorth> all roads would be 3 lane super highways 18:39:10 <andythenorth> vehicle movement paths would be fixed :| 18:39:10 <andythenorth> limiting factor :P 18:40:34 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: only if you do it with cubicles!! 18:40:52 <FLHerne> Could you do ridiculous vehicle offsets so that different vehicle types appeared to follow a range of roads on the same tile? 18:42:31 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest590 18:42:31 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@host86-129-120-89.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:42:31 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 18:47:04 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Quit: Forlater kanalen] 18:48:59 *** Guest590 [~Andy@host-78-148-170-202.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:50:47 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@kamina.ldn1.uk.e43.eu] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 18:51:47 *** johnboy [5adfa230@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:51:52 *** johnboy [5adfa230@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:52:28 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@kamina.ldn1.uk.e43.eu] has joined #openttd 18:57:24 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:57:31 <supermop> hi 18:58:38 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:00 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:01:13 <andythenorth> lo mop 19:03:42 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04:24 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:04:38 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05:43 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:06:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-231.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:07:55 <supermop> how's it going andy? 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20:00:16 <andythenorth> why dick around calling it a hash? 20:00:20 <andythenorth> it looks like a dict to me 20:00:47 <andythenorth> then have 47 badly written articles in google serps about 'hashes are really just objects' 20:00:58 <andythenorth> but written by people who seem to have the barest grasp of programming 20:01:18 <andythenorth> 'hashes are associative arrays, but also objects' 20:01:18 <andythenorth> meh 20:01:38 <andythenorth> 'forget everything you know from other languages' 20:01:47 * andythenorth is not a programmer, but javascript is retarded 20:02:25 <Alberth> oh, no doubt it has its uses :) 20:02:36 <Alberth> never looked at it though :) 20:02:49 <andythenorth> it's not even magical 20:02:55 <andythenorth> it's just another scripting language 20:03:05 <andythenorth> but most of the users posting about it are illiterate 20:03:19 <andythenorth> so a typical web search for examples becomes very annoying quickly 20:03:27 * andythenorth is grumpy 20:03:30 <andythenorth> and should sleep 20:05:36 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-117-1.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:22:23 <andythenorth> hmm 20:22:27 <andythenorth> can't pile up functions in js 20:25:40 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:40:49 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 20:48:30 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:49:34 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-129-120-89.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:03:43 *** th_gergo [~thiering@1F2E8CA3.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openttd 21:04:22 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 21:14:43 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196.215.173.27] has left #openttd [PING 1336166444] 21:23:04 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:27:23 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-19-137.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:27:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-78-148-170-202.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 21:28:34 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-154-230-134.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120417165043]] 21:29:03 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 21:45:54 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 21:50:53 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:50:58 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:15 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:54:07 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.131.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:03:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-78-148-170-202.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:03:40 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 22:08:26 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:11:12 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f72ef.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:42 *** jnx [~jnxa@seven.medozas.de] has joined #openttd 22:17:06 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.151.112] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:24:48 <Terkhen> good night 22:25:55 <jnx> http://picpaste.de/town1.png town2.png town3.png - there is a ring of avenues with trees that seems to be dependent upon the location & size of the business district (as removing the commercial areas will move the tree ring) 22:31:58 <jnx> Another odd-looking sideeffect is that the pavement next to roads are getting reconstructed after the demolition of office building blocks 22:33:57 <jnx> (the latter seems to be for replacing roads with tree-lined roads) 22:44:31 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-03.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46:12 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-88-176.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:08 *** Guinness2702 [~steve@host86-134-66-235.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:48:20 *** Hazzard [~72f650b4@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 22:49:18 <Guinness2702> Hey there :) Problems with openttd, on xubuntu; the game keeps hanging after maybe half an hour of play. Any idea where I can look for clues - is there a debug log file or something I can look at? 22:53:24 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:58:19 <Eddi|zuHause> jnx: yes. the "town zones" form circles, and they are dependent on the number of houses in the town 22:59:26 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:00:17 *** th_gergo [~thiering@1F2E8CA3.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:06:00 <Zuu> Guinness2702: If the program crashes, there is crash.log, crash.png, crash.sav etc. If the program just freezes without a crash, then I don't think there are any such crash files. 23:06:25 <Guinness2702> Zuu: where are they created? 23:06:29 <Zuu> If its a freeze, try to load a recent autosave and see if it can be reproduced. 23:06:54 <Zuu> In Windows they end up in Documents\OpenTTD. So for you they'll probably end up in ~/.openttd/ 23:07:14 <Guinness2702> Zuu: nope. If I load an autosave, I get another 30-40 min of play, before it freezes again - happens *every* time 23:07:37 <Zuu> Which version of OpenTTD do you have? 23:07:53 <Guinness2702> um, how do I find out? I installed via ubuntu software centre today 23:08:15 <Zuu> If you start OpenTTD its written at the top of the menu window. 23:08:17 <Guinness2702> aha 23:08:19 <Guinness2702> OpenTTD 1.0.4 23:09:04 <Guinness2702> no logs in ~/.openttd/ 23:09:04 <Zuu> Please try last stable 1.2.0. If its still there, I would upload the savegame to bugs.openttd.org. 23:10:03 <Guinness2702> Zuu: where do I get it? ... openttd webby right? 23:10:20 <Zuu> http://www.openttd.org/en/download-stable <-- there 23:10:39 <Zuu> There is specific ubuntu builds as well as a generic linux build. 23:11:58 <Guinness2702> okay, installing now :) 23:12:27 <Guinness2702> ...well maybe 23:13:10 <Zuu> 1.0.4 is two years old, so there is some potential that this has been fixed, although I don't remember this particular bug specifically from the 1.0-era. 23:14:06 <Guinness2702> I installed a couple of the add ons, via the interface - e.g. an AI pack, a couple of name packs, and vehicle packs 23:14:12 <Zuu> Hmm, well 1.0.0 is two years old 1.0.4 might be some months yonger. 23:14:54 <Guinness2702> So unlike canonical to have out of date software :D 23:16:07 *** johnboy [5adfa230@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 23:16:30 <Zuu> Those add-ons shouldn't freeze or crash OpenTTD. If OpenTTD for any reason crashes its a bug. The only really exception is if you have changed NewGRFs in running game, then you have been warned and are only yourself to blame. 23:17:12 <Guinness2702> I'm pretty sure I didn't do that 23:17:31 <Zuu> There is a red warning box if you try to do it. 23:18:01 <Guinness2702> nah, only warning boxes I saw were - no AI installed, and "you cannot remove signals from here" lol 23:19:16 <Guinness2702> Okay, I have 1.2.0 - guess I'll see you in about 30-40 min :D 23:21:07 <Zuu> hehe :-) 23:38:58 <Wolf01> 'night 23:39:04 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:43:22 *** Firartix [~artixds@127.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:44:13 <jnx> Aircraft with 952 km/h seems slowe than maglev with 643 km/h 23:45:28 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.100.24] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:46:41 <Hazzard> They are actually going 1/4 the speed 23:47:03 <Hazzard> or maybe 1/3 23:47:11 <Hazzard> You can change it in the settings 23:50:58 <Zuu> or you could think that the game takes the perspective of someone being on the ground where a train looks faster than a plane up in the sky. Although the view is looking down at the surface. :-) 23:54:50 <Hazzard> There are the planes that go 2329km/h 23:55:13 <Hazzard> strangly, none between 952 km/hr and 2329