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OS? NewGRFs? fullscreen or not? 8bpp or 32bpp blitter? 10:46:35 <planetmaker> native or non-native resolution of your display? 10:56:36 <NGC3982> "what a blessing that #science has finally discovered the God particle. now the #atheists have no excuses for their denial of Jesus Christ!" 10:59:57 <planetmaker> but you know how it got its name? 11:00:42 <planetmaker> it was supposedly a book title about it "The god damned particle" which the publisher changed to "The God particle" 11:03:35 <NGC3982> true, i have the lederman book, and i read it way to often. 11:03:55 <NGC3982> although, this proves that science never, ever should use anything but science in their presentation. 11:04:38 <__ln__> science and comic sans 11:05:48 <NGC3982> yes, i noted that in the last webcast 11:15:40 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-15-209.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:19:53 *** Supercheese_ [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 11:21:01 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-138-173.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:03 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:05 *** Supercheese_ is now known as Supercheese 11:26:56 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-139.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 11:31:34 <dihedral> hello 11:52:43 *** gsagsa [~operastar@BSN-143-113-67.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has quit [] 12:03:07 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7d60:7dbc:3a4e:31e7] has joined #openttd 12:03:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:05:27 *** cmircea_ [~cmircea@86.124.213.159] has joined #openttd 12:10:57 *** APTX_ [APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:21:17 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:27:42 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 12:28:25 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34:08 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@82.74.125.226] has joined #openttd 12:59:56 *** APTX [APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 13:03:51 *** GBerten2936 is now known as lugo 13:12:28 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 13:16:32 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 13:24:46 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc10-linl9-2-0-cust80.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:26:13 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-173-106.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:47:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.175.155] has joined #openttd 13:53:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.177.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:59:56 <Belugas> hello 14:10:58 <dihedral> hello Belugas 14:12:11 <Belugas> ho.. a dihedral! hello you :) 14:15:19 <dihedral> :) 14:17:25 <dihedral> SmatZ :-) 14:17:41 <dihedral> or whoever can tell me what the cost of (int64)CalculateCompanyValue(c) actually is? :-) 14:18:13 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 14:21:00 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: sounds like someone didn't convert that to Money? 14:21:20 <dihedral> that is the part used in the console command 'companies' 14:21:28 <dihedral> in a printf 14:21:40 <Eddi|zuHause> so what is wrong with it? 14:22:27 <dihedral> the _current_ company value is calculated ones every 3 months as it is an 'expensive' process, at least that is what i was told 14:22:57 <dihedral> the clients recalculate the current value more often (e.g. when displaying the company info window) 14:23:09 <Eddi|zuHause> ah. so you want to know the code-complexity 14:23:27 <dihedral> the server also calculates the value when promted to do so on the console (command 'companies') 14:23:39 <dihedral> but i am not quire sure if it's wise to use it in the admin interface 14:23:50 <dihedral> aye 14:24:29 <planetmaker> why shouldn't the admin interface have access to it? 14:24:37 <Eddi|zuHause> so you want to make a repetitive automatic tast with adminscript, and wonder whether that will interrupt the server performance? 14:24:45 <Eddi|zuHause> *task 14:25:08 <dihedral> i wonder if it is a nessesary additional load, yes 14:25:18 <dihedral> planetmaker, additional laod ;-) 14:25:42 <planetmaker> well, yes. But the admin knows that. Would be better to externalize that, from a load perspective 14:25:43 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: run the server with "make run-prof" [or similar], and check? 14:25:44 <dihedral> the interface already has access to company->old_economy 14:26:04 <planetmaker> but then the question is, how bad it can get 14:26:10 <dihedral> exactly 14:26:32 <dihedral> 15 companies, 15 bots, every poll and every scheduled update will cause the code to run 14:26:42 <dihedral> and i find that a little extensive (at the moment) 14:27:03 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: i presume it runs once over the whole map, and once over all vehicles, stations, etc. 14:27:09 <planetmaker> well. there can be only one GS. Not exactly sure how many admin-scripts. But still. One? 14:27:42 <dihedral> up to 15 connections to the admin interface are accepted 14:27:43 <planetmaker> but calling it for all properties and vehicles... that might be excessive 14:27:51 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: since admin-interface is not bound to a single script, you can have as many scripts in parallel as you want 14:28:22 <planetmaker> not quite :-) 14:28:44 <Eddi|zuHause> you can connect and disconnect as needed, so 15 connections is not a hard limit 14:29:06 <dihedral> yikes - never thought of that :-D 14:29:10 <dihedral> that is a lovely idea 14:29:38 <dihedral> connect, get info, disconnect :-D 14:29:50 <planetmaker> outch 14:29:56 <dihedral> i was actually thinking of a proxy :-D 14:30:16 <dihedral> thankfully one needs the 'password' to connect 14:30:53 <dihedral> the function loops over all stations and all vehicles 14:31:37 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't sound like too huge of an overhead, if you don't run it multiple times per day 14:31:59 <dihedral> it runs over every station and checks if it belongs to the current company 14:32:17 <dihedral> if you have 15 companies, you access every station and every vehicle 15 times 14:33:35 <dihedral> it /could/ be a lot 14:42:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:46:45 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 14:47:40 <dihedral> if the value is updated once per quarter, per company - that is 15 calles in 3 months 14:48:19 <dihedral> if i recalculate the value for each bot, for each company for a weekly scheduled update, that equals to 2700 calles 14:48:30 <dihedral> 180 times more 14:50:33 <dihedral> i'd be better of creating the network packets, and then sending the exact same packet to each connection 14:55:11 *** brambles [brambles@79.133.200.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55:40 *** brambles [brambles@79.133.200.49] has joined #openttd 15:00:40 *** nchrj [503e7578@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:01:09 <nchrj> hallo!!! 15:01:18 <dihedral> hello 15:01:40 <andythenorth> lo 15:02:06 <Terkhen> hi again 15:02:36 <nchrj> what are you doing? 15:03:11 <dihedral> thinking 15:03:18 <nchrj> uhhhh 15:03:24 <Terkhen> trying to configure my stupid mail 15:03:52 <nchrj> hehe 15:04:03 <FLHerne> interweb grazing, here :-) 15:04:16 <nchrj> :p 15:05:48 <andythenorth> FISH :P 15:06:43 <FLHerne> At least some productivity is occurring, then... :P 15:06:57 <andythenorth> no, I was just saying the word 15:07:02 <andythenorth> I'm doing actual work work 15:07:25 <dihedral> andythenorth, suuurreee ;-) 15:08:17 <andythenorth> money on it :P 15:10:37 *** nchrj [503e7578@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:13:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5a75.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:18:14 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-139.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:28:32 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 15:48:21 *** Arafangion [~Arafangio@220-244-108-23.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:40 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08f42e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:49 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 16:38:20 *** kkimlabs_ [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 16:50:38 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has joined #openttd 16:50:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:53:05 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-173-85.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:55:28 * LordAro waves 16:56:15 * Alberth waves back 16:58:20 <LordAro> i think i'm getting there with the patch 17:00:09 <Alberth> in that case, you are making better progress than me 17:00:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 17:00:54 *** Absolutis [~58c3a36f@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:13:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has joined #openttd 17:13:17 <Wolf01> hello o/ 17:14:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:15:28 <frosch123> night 17:15:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5a75.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16:55 <Alberth> hello 17:34:20 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r24377 /trunk/src/lang/slovak.txt: 17:34:20 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:34:20 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: slovak - 166 changes by Rhianon 17:37:22 <LordAro> "<Alberth> in that case, you are making better progress than me" <-- oh? and which patch would that be? 17:37:54 <Alberth> any of them :( 17:38:42 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Hugs to all] 17:38:56 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 17:47:00 <LordAro> :( 17:47:18 <LordAro> hint as to what you a reworking on? :) 17:48:07 <LordAro> s/a reworking/are working/ 17:49:45 <Eddi|zuHause> that should be s/ re/re / for proper confusion :) 17:50:30 *** kkimlabs__ [~kkimlabs@VPNRASA-WLAN-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 17:51:38 * Terkhen is also not working in the scenario format lately :( 17:51:41 *** kkimlabs_ [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51:53 * Eddi|zuHause is not working on CETS 17:52:18 * Eddi|zuHause is not really working enough on work either... 17:52:54 <LordAro> how much would it matter to moving the a certain fairly important variable to public, rather than private? 17:53:17 <Eddi|zuHause> that question is not cryptic enough 17:54:27 <LordAro> ScriptScanner instances 17:54:42 <LordAro> i need them outside the AI/Game scope-thingy 17:55:38 <Alberth> add a method to query it??? 17:56:35 <Alberth> LordAro: and I am working on RCD file generation and cargodestination monitoring 17:56:39 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host81-154-231-254.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:57:10 <LordAro> "cargodestination" FreeRCT or OTTD? 17:57:28 <Alberth> neither, it's OpenTTD :p 17:57:54 <Alberth> and it's not cd*st related :D 17:58:33 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean like making a list of all possible destinations? 17:58:42 <Alberth> it is intended to be an extension of the game scripts to allow monitoring of deliveries and pickups of cargoes 17:59:21 <Alberth> so it can say "pick up x tonne of cargo from FOO plant", and check when you have done that 17:59:36 <Eddi|zuHause> so something like the industry chain viewer extended for script usage? 17:59:55 <LordAro> sounds fun :) 18:00:17 <Eddi|zuHause> a propos, can the industry chain viewer actually show the industries (clickable?) 18:00:22 <Alberth> this is about concrete actual FOO plant in BLA town, not industries at global level 18:00:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:00:39 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: ? 18:00:48 <Alberth> ie show on map? 18:01:03 <Alberth> moin andy 18:01:30 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: the industry chain viewer has boxes [ coal mine ] etc., inside these boxes a list of all coal mines on the map, and if i click on it, it opens the industry window for that industry 18:01:44 <Eddi|zuHause> so subsections of the industry list 18:01:54 <Alberth> ah, like that 18:03:09 <Alberth> not sure how useful it would be, the idea is that you select a cargo or an industry type, and then use "shown on map" ie it is a filter-like thing 18:03:38 <Alberth> so you can search for a useful combination of industries at the map 18:03:40 * andythenorth -> logs :P 18:03:44 <Eddi|zuHause> sure, but sometimes a list is better than a map, and sometimes the other way around 18:04:07 <Eddi|zuHause> PS: can the industry map get a button to open the industry chain window? 18:04:58 <andythenorth> PS: can the industry chain viewer be fixed? :) 18:05:14 <Alberth> it gets overlap with the industry list window perhaps 18:05:39 <Alberth> andythenorth: better fix newgrfs? :D 18:05:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see that as a problem 18:06:05 <andythenorth> cb14B and 14C it respects does not 18:06:09 <Eddi|zuHause> there's overlaps between the global vehicle list, and the vehicle list for each station. 18:06:38 <Alberth> yeah, but there is no list of vehicle types too 18:07:11 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, in the autoreplace window and in the depot window 18:07:22 <Eddi|zuHause> and in the vehicle list window 18:07:25 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host81-154-231-254.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 18:08:01 <Alberth> tbh I am starting to see more sense into moving the minimap into the main display 18:08:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see the relation 18:08:25 * andythenorth does 18:08:34 <andythenorth> just make it an overlay on the map grid 18:08:41 <Eddi|zuHause> and there is this "zoom out x64" patch 18:08:51 <Eddi|zuHause> and the cargodist overlay 18:09:19 <Eddi|zuHause> which, in combination, should do that 18:09:58 *** kkimlabs__ [~kkimlabs@VPNRASA-WLAN-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:10:24 <Eddi|zuHause> but that was really not the point i was making. i wanted a textual representation of the industry chains, not a visual one 18:10:34 <Eddi|zuHause> (because that we already have) 18:11:19 <Alberth> so I click at a coal mine in the industry chain window and get 50 mines, then what? 18:11:33 <Alberth> call the bomb squad? 18:11:44 <Eddi|zuHause> scrolling? 18:12:18 <Eddi|zuHause> display max 10 and add a "show more" button? 18:12:19 <Alberth> yeah yeah, say you have a high enough screen or small enough letters 18:13:11 <Alberth> ie what is A coal , B coal, C coal etc adding? 18:13:39 <Alberth> particularly, as I never know where A B or C is at the map 18:16:20 <Alberth> imho you use the industry chain window when you want to get an idea of how industries are related. If you want to know which ones are useful to exploit, open the industry list, and sort on type 18:16:30 <Alberth> or am I missing something? 18:16:52 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that the industry list has no filters on type 18:17:29 <Eddi|zuHause> (in that case you could make "open in list" similar to "open in map") 18:18:57 <Alberth> you could so 'sort on type' today 18:19:13 <Eddi|zuHause> "sort" is something very different to "filter" 18:19:33 <Eddi|zuHause> what if i wanted all coal mines, sorted by production per month? 18:19:38 <andythenorth> the industry list is very frustrating 18:19:41 <Eddi|zuHause> or all coal mines, sorted by rating? 18:19:52 <andythenorth> on any large / busy map, it's rubbish 18:20:00 <andythenorth> needs filter widgets or such 18:20:01 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.64.121.63] has joined #openttd 18:20:04 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 18:20:20 <Alberth> filter thingies should be easily addable imho 18:21:12 * Alberth ponders adding it to the wanted feature list 18:21:19 <andythenorth> let's ship something! 18:21:26 * andythenorth has been shipping things this week 18:21:28 <andythenorth> it's fun 18:21:29 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. what was very troublesome in YACD was "give me all industries that deliver to this industry" (only partially related to this discussion, though) 18:21:34 <andythenorth> not shipping things is very very boring 18:21:52 <Alberth> andythenorth: not fishing things? 18:21:58 <andythenorth> nope 18:22:06 <Eddi|zuHause> EInsufficientShips 18:22:45 <andythenorth> ship filters! 18:23:03 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: simutrans has that list in the industry window ;) 18:23:10 <andythenorth> what other thingy did we invent this week? 18:23:16 <andythenorth> there was some GUI thing we talked about 18:23:37 <Alberth> the solution to FS#5218? 18:23:47 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: yes, but YACD only has a "delivers to" list. and that was also very messy for more than 5 entries 18:24:18 <andythenorth> not #5218 18:24:26 <andythenorth> something that Alberth knew about :P 18:24:41 <andythenorth> oh I remember, buy menu 18:24:48 <andythenorth> we shipped "don't care" :) 18:24:56 <andythenorth> which is fine 18:25:45 * Alberth denies knewing about buy menus, I had to look it up :p 18:30:26 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-139.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 18:31:21 * andythenorth -> curry 18:31:23 <andythenorth> bye ;) 18:31:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 18:34:46 * LordAro loves linker errors :( 18:35:16 <LordAro> also 'undefined references' 18:40:49 <dihedral> oi :-) 18:41:05 <dihedral> @logs 18:41:05 <DorpsGek> dihedral: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd 18:58:53 <LordAro> anyone wanna help? http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1516/ 18:59:54 <LordAro> errors when linking. @ ContentInfo::GetTextfile() 19:00:15 <LordAro> with the BaseMedia<> functions 19:12:29 <LordAro> bump :P 19:12:32 <Rubidium> looks like you need to instantiate some methods 19:12:45 <Rubidium> see the bottom of the _func.hpp I guess 19:13:59 *** chester_ [~chester@95-25-23-88.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:14:14 <dihedral> uh :-) a Rubidium 19:14:56 *** Absolutis [~58c3a36f@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:27:32 <Zuu> Hmm, why is the date of content not displayed in the interface? At least for AI/GS there is a meta property where you set the release date. 19:28:52 <Zuu> How am I going to know which of two different NewGRFs that use two different version patterns from the same author that is newest? 19:29:22 <Rubidium> by introducing a third version 19:30:08 <Zuu> Aviators Aircraft vs General avi8tion 19:32:21 <Zuu> hmm one of them have no parameters meta data, so it should be the older one then. 19:38:41 <planetmaker> moin 19:40:00 <dihedral> oi 19:40:08 * dihedral greets the pm ;-) 19:40:21 <planetmaker> hi dihedral 19:41:28 <LordAro> Rubidium: you mean "base_media_func.h" ? 19:45:45 <LordAro> ah, yes, you do :) 19:47:17 <LordAro> but why is that necessary? 19:48:27 <dihedral> is it ok to update cur_economy.company_value in CompaniesGenStatistics (economy.cpp)? 19:49:06 <LordAro> (unrelated to dihedral) YES. 19:49:11 <dihedral> then the value can be used at multiple places - console command 'companies', game script, admin interface 19:50:19 <LordAro> all are working except for scripts... 19:50:27 * LordAro engages debug mode! 19:55:38 <Zuu> I though that maybe I should give it a try to play with aircraft ranges to possible fix one or two of my AIs to handle it. However, even if I seem to use the latest av8 NewGRF and no other NewGRFs there is no range. 19:56:06 <Zuu> Nothing in my openttd.cfg matches against "range" and I can't find anything in adv. settings that may disable it. 19:59:30 <LordAro> YES. (again) 19:59:34 * LordAro dances 20:01:12 <Zuu> Oh, it actually did work, I was just blind. Didn't see the Range property as I assumed that it would have been added at the bottom of the unsorted property list. 20:06:16 <LordAro> @fs 5236 20:06:16 <DorpsGek> LordAro: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5236 20:06:24 <LordAro> ok, code review plox :) 20:16:09 <Zuu> In the constructor of ContentTextfileWindow, why don't you use the generalized function to get BASESET_DIR etc? 20:18:31 <Zuu> Couldn't you use GetContentInfoSubDir() there to reduce the length by about 10 lines of code? 20:18:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@176.14.41.216] has joined #openttd 20:22:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19C71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:22:23 *** namad7 [aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 20:26:06 <LordAro> Zuu: almost certainly, i added that function after i did the window :) 20:29:00 <Zuu> Btw, did you see my patch in FS#5206 that un-hack the break-on-log feature a bit and generalize it to also support Game Scripts. When it is added, it will be fairly easy to implement AIBase::Break() to break the AI execution (possible only for AI devs) 20:32:40 <Zuu> break in this case means that you can ressume the AI by clicking on the contiunue button in the AI debug window. 20:50:18 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:52:23 *** Jupix2 [~jupix@dsl-lprbrasgw1-ff11c100-110.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:53:47 *** Jupix [~jupix@88.193.17.110] has joined #openttd 20:57:58 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.115.84.155] has joined #openttd 21:01:27 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 21:12:56 *** chester_ [~chester@95-25-23-88.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:13:59 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 21:17:52 <dihedral> what exactly is the aim of economy.infrastructure_maintenance 21:18:48 <Eddi|zuHause> turning it off/on? 21:20:11 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:05 <dihedral> ops - reading does help :-D 21:29:02 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.115.84.155] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:23 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-195-226.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:37:44 <Terkhen> good night 21:38:04 *** mal2_ [~mal2@port-92-206-25-36.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:38:40 <planetmaker> g'night Terkhen 21:40:14 *** mal2__ [~mal2@port-92-206-111-100.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:43:08 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-154-231-254.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:44:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19C71.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:23 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-195-226.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:45:49 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-80-128.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:47:28 *** mal2_ [~mal2@port-92-206-25-36.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:55 *** mal2__ [~mal2@port-92-206-111-100.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:11 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-154-231-254.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0/20120628060610]] 21:54:15 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 21:56:45 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-173-85.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:00:18 *** cmircea_ [~cmircea@86.124.213.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:38 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.64.121.63] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:09:42 *** mal2_ [~mal2@port-92-206-34-246.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:16:58 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-80-128.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:18 *** NataS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 22:18:16 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:19:03 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:22:30 *** mal2_ [~mal2@port-92-206-34-246.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:43 *** Nat_aS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:26:25 *** mal2_ [~mal2@port-92-206-34-246.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:40:50 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:19 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:51:30 *** kkimlabs_ [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 22:56:13 *** mal2_ [~mal2@port-92-206-34-246.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:00:59 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:40 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:01 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc10-linl9-2-0-cust80.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 23:10:24 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Hugs to all] 23:15:25 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:13 *** ludde [~b@c80-217-210-102.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:27:00 <Wolf01> 'night 23:27:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:41:04 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:53:33 *** lugo [GBerten293@oxygen.evosurge.com] has quit [Quit: EvoSurge - Free & Premium IRC Bouncers on Demand - http://evosurge.com/] 23:58:10 *** GBerten2936 [GBerten293@oxygen.evosurge.com] has joined #openttd