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i have xubuntu 12.4 11:13:10 <lugo> not anyone i guess 11:16:49 <warplaslouw> :(( 11:18:43 *** pschulz01 [~paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #openttd 11:20:40 <warplaslouw> ok then 11:20:44 <warplaslouw> good bye 11:20:46 *** warplaslouw [~warplaslo@149.254.235.217] has left #openttd [] 11:22:50 <Terkhen> people asking random questions need to have some patience 11:23:01 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:31:16 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:45 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 11:32:00 <Fremen> yeh 11:32:22 <Fremen> ninja-asking a question and then being disappointed after a few minutes 11:32:32 <Fremen> damn youth mentality :p 11:33:08 <V453000> just inexperience with irc chat :) 11:40:03 <Terkhen> specially when they ask at european work hours/night time 11:41:33 <V453000> of course :) 11:47:55 <Eddi|zuHause> recently in a german chat a german guy joined at 4AM and said something along the lines of "wake up guys!" 11:48:04 <Eddi|zuHause> and then quit 11:49:33 <dihedral> oi 11:50:44 <planetmaker> Hi dih 11:50:50 <Eddi|zuHause> ho 11:51:01 <Eddi|zuHause> winslows! 11:51:25 <Eddi|zuHause> man, i am getting old :) 11:53:00 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:03:06 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:07:10 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 12:17:23 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08ed46.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:21:06 <peter1138> i left openttd running on an android device in tesco 12:21:11 <peter1138> with music on :p 12:25:51 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:28:17 <NGC3982> :D 12:28:29 <NGC3982> Wait what, OpenTTD on an Android device? 12:28:31 <NGC3982> What did i miss. 12:35:36 <szaman> yep, not working on my old htc dream :] 12:53:42 <NGC3982> !! 12:55:02 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:952:5817:b647:aa37] has joined #openttd 12:55:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:03:43 <peter1138> it's shitty 13:03:46 <peter1138> but it works 13:03:54 <peter1138> way too fiddly 13:09:59 <Elukka> sounds like it'd be something of a pain on a touchscreen 13:10:05 <Elukka> it's already a tad too fiddly with a mouse 13:37:35 <Phazorx> it would ne nice just to use it as monitoring device 13:37:49 <Phazorx> say have it output map and use it as secondary screen :) 13:38:58 <Eddi|zuHause> just play a multiplayer game 13:38:59 <Phazorx> on the other hand rendering and processing everything for sake of being dumb rendering terminal is probably an overkill 13:39:28 <Phazorx> Eddi|zuHause: i actualy had MP games were i used 2 clients on 2 monitors 13:39:30 <Eddi|zuHause> you could as well vnc into a "real" machine 13:39:44 <Eddi|zuHause> if you think that uses less power 13:39:52 <Phazorx> probably not 14:03:50 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 14:03:54 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [] 14:05:49 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:26 *** sla_ro|vista [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:26:15 *** bb10X [~bb10@bb10x.org] has joined #openttd 14:27:09 <Elukka> http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry/RS&H/RSH_Streamliner_Baghdad_to_Mosul_Railway.jpg 14:27:11 <Elukka> interesting train 14:27:37 *** bb10 [~bb10@bb10x.org] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:27:39 <Elukka> the area in general used to be a bit nicer... 14:27:42 <Elukka> http://www.afghan-network.net/Photography/kabul/kabul-paramount2.gif 14:27:42 <Elukka> http://fumaga.com/i/kabul-1970-then-now-2010.jpg 14:30:09 *** Goulpy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:38 *** Goulpy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [] 14:31:53 *** Goulpy [~Muxy@88.122.0.24] has joined #openttd 14:32:13 *** Goulpy [~Muxy@88.122.0.24] has quit [] 14:33:19 *** Goulpy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 14:33:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Elukka: baghdad is nowhere near kabul, though 14:33:32 *** Goulpy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [] 14:34:08 <planetmaker> it is. Helsinki is close to Rome. Just a matter of perspective ;-) 14:35:39 <Eddi|zuHause> right, but they have neither economical nor cultural nor historical connections 14:36:24 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:39:54 <planetmaker> they're both part of the silk road 14:45:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:21 *** pschulz01 [~paul@202.174.42.5] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:05:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdd0c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:18 <Elukka> well, the point was that both iraq and afghanistan were rather nicer places in decades past 15:10:06 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-054-150.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 15:12:18 <frosch123> almost every place was nice 3 million years ago, before men showed up 15:13:14 <frosch123> even the forum offtopic was acceptable back then 15:20:50 <Terkhen> hi frosch123 :D 15:29:06 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:38:34 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:39 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:40:28 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:42:41 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 15:47:03 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 16:19:31 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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It's more West 18:34:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B0BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:35:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host218-143-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:35:53 <__ln__> but also more south 18:35:59 <Wolf01> evenink o/ 18:36:14 <frosch123> yeah, more equitorial should mean more 12 hours days 18:38:55 <Terkhen> I still have not noticed days getting shorter, and I probably won't until I wake up some day and the sun has not raised yet 18:38:59 <Terkhen> :P 18:39:54 <planetmaker> he 18:40:01 <frosch123> in 3 weeks you should have a 12 hour day 18:40:11 <planetmaker> :-) 18:40:28 <planetmaker> three weeks? Rather 2 18:40:34 <planetmaker> 23rd or so 18:40:42 <Rubidium> and in a little more than one and a half month we have the longest day ;) 18:40:45 <frosch123> yeah, it was only a felt date :) 18:40:58 <planetmaker> time surely runs fast ;-) 18:41:14 <frosch123> Rubidium: i am not that far south 18:41:20 <Terkhen> :P 18:41:35 <planetmaker> where are you, frosch123 ? 18:41:44 <frosch123> not at the south pole 18:41:48 <planetmaker> :D 18:42:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@2002:4d66:7022:0:c0e5:7ab2:546d:43b9] has joined #openttd 18:42:08 <frosch123> but i guess rb meant only a day which is about a hour longer 18:42:14 <andythenorth> bonsoir 18:42:18 <Kjetil> so.. not the south of poland ? 18:42:23 <Terkhen> wb andythenorth 18:42:38 <frosch123> planetmaker: anyway, i am in one of the warmest towns of germany 18:42:46 <frosch123> (year average) 18:42:57 <andythenorth> so the question is 18:43:00 <planetmaker> ok, I thought you were travelling like Down Under or in Africa :-) 18:43:03 <andythenorth> after 3 weeks without proper sleep 18:43:09 <andythenorth> can I patch FIRS supplies? 18:43:23 <andythenorth> successfully :P 18:43:30 <planetmaker> you surely can. 18:43:39 <planetmaker> Depends on whether you like the result ;-) 18:43:49 <Yexo> you want to introduce a new cargo "sheep" just to be able to count them? 18:43:58 <frosch123> andythenorth: we just talked about that in 1.5 months you can sleep for an hour more 18:44:01 <Rubidium> planetmaker: it's the 22nd at 14:49 UTC 18:44:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@2002:4d66:7022:0:c0e5:7ab2:546d:43b9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44:28 <planetmaker> :-) Good enough without looking it up :-) 18:44:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:48:30 <planetmaker> hm... if it's about equally long day and night, we should not look for the equinox but the equilux 18:48:44 <planetmaker> and that is earlier (spring) or later (autumn) than the equinox :-) 18:52:12 * Rubidium wonders why the difference between the time of the equinox is not constant 18:52:43 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:05 <frosch123> sounds like you also like exploring that shadows projected by the sun become smaller if the distance between projection plane and object becomes bigger, while for most normal lambs it becomes bigger 18:53:10 <Rubidium> like 09:04, 14:49, 20:44, 02:29, 08:20, 14:21 18:53:10 <planetmaker> Rubidium, elipticity of the Earth's orbit 18:53:30 <planetmaker> and precession of the orbit 18:53:41 <frosch123> *lamps 18:55:55 <Rubidium> planetmaker: I would expect the earth passing the same point in it's rotation around the sun at an constant interval (maybe slightly slower each year) 18:56:18 <Rubidium> but that doesn't quite account for the 25 minute spread I see 18:56:25 <NGC3982> Rubidium: Why would it? 18:57:07 <Rubidium> NGC3982: get a bike wheel and draw a line on the tire, then make it go round and round free spinning 18:57:26 <NGC3982> Afaik, gravitationally locked units does not aquire synchroniced rotation. 18:57:43 <Rubidium> would you expect that in cycle 2 it goes faster than cycle 1 and then slower and then faster and then slower and then faster .... 18:58:34 <frosch123> Rubidium: how big is the effect of the 100/400 year leap rule? 18:58:59 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:14 <Rubidium> frosch123: that would be relatively insignificant 18:59:16 <NGC3982> Rubidium: Well, that is appliable since the center and outer rim of the wheel is connected mechanically, right? 18:59:26 <Rubidium> as that just adds a day and I'm purely looking at the time 18:59:30 <planetmaker> frosch123, the normal leap year is about 4' 18:59:51 <Rubidium> as in the time of day 19:00:36 <NGC3982> Rubidium: Or am i missing something here. 19:00:36 <NGC3982> :) 19:00:52 <frosch123> Rubidium: i am not sure what you posted above. but aren't you posting the the time in 6 consecutive years? 19:01:04 <frosch123> so that the 4 year leap rule adds for the 6 hour interval 19:01:05 <Rubidium> yes, the time 19:01:23 <frosch123> while the 100/400 year interval results in a 1/25 of 6 hours? 19:01:29 <frosch123> @calc 60*6/25 19:01:29 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 14.4 19:01:33 <frosch123> which is around 14 minutes 19:01:37 <Rubidium> but now write down the time differences 19:01:48 <Rubidium> and you get something like 19:02:23 <frosch123> @calc 64 - 49 19:02:23 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 15 19:02:31 <Rubidium> 336 351 352 343 353 340 348 353 335 350 356 344 355 345 352 360 341 352 356 341 19:02:33 <frosch123> @calc 49-44 19:02:33 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 5 19:02:41 <frosch123> @calc 44-29 19:02:41 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 15 19:02:52 <frosch123> @calc 29-20 19:02:52 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 9 19:03:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: so a spread of around 15 minutes? 19:03:09 <Rubidium> that's the number of minutes between each of the autumn equinoxes of 21 years 19:03:10 <frosch123> hmm the last one dows not fit 19:03:12 <frosch123> 20 -> 21 :s 19:04:46 <planetmaker> Rubidium, the Earth's rotation is fixed in space. But the orbit of Earth changes. Equinox is when the sun is at the Earth's equator. But due to the orbit itself rotating about the sun (it's not a closed ellipse!), the times change when the sun's at the Earth's equator 19:04:50 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: the difference between the smallest and largest number is 25 19:06:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i imagine there's also an influence of jupiter and stuff 19:06:26 * Rubidium then votes for cheese 19:06:39 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-054-150.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 19:07:58 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 24*60*0.2425 19:07:58 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 349.2 19:08:47 <andythenorth> is there a game running on coop nightly? 19:08:50 <Rubidium> planetmaker: so the school room model of the solar system is vastly inadequate? 19:08:55 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: is that the 4/100/400 leap thingie? 19:09:01 * andythenorth fancies 1.5 hours of GS MP 19:09:10 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (336+351+352+343+353+340+348+353+335+350+356+344+355+345+352+360+341+352+356+341)/20 19:09:10 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 348.15 19:09:25 <andythenorth> frosch123: made any changes to SiliconValley? 19:09:32 <Eddi|zuHause> the average is fairly close 19:09:36 <frosch123> documentation 19:09:40 <frosch123> nothing more 19:09:48 <frosch123> you should not play valueables :) 19:09:55 <frosch123> maybe play a different climate 19:09:59 <frosch123> or firs :p 19:10:11 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: yes, 0.2425 is the leap year constant 19:11:20 <andythenorth> firs! 19:11:27 <andythenorth> someone set up a game? :P 19:11:44 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: the currently used "constant" 19:11:45 <frosch123> 1.5 hours is too short for si valley 19:11:52 <frosch123> also i am tired :) 19:11:59 <andythenorth> NoCargoGoal? 19:12:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: well, yes 19:12:49 *** RichyB [~richardb@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:12:52 <Eddi|zuHause> 0.25 for leap year every 4 years, and -0.0075 for the 3 leap years you leave out every 400 years 19:13:19 <Eddi|zuHause> as per the gregorian calendar 19:13:30 <frosch123> [21:11] <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: the currently used "constant" <- i veto any changes to that system 19:13:47 <frosch123> it's just too awesome that 400 years are a integer number of weeks 19:13:50 <Eddi|zuHause> well, we do have leapseconds :) 19:14:06 <Rubidium> The vernal equinox year is about 365.242374 days long 19:14:12 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: is it really? 19:14:22 <Rubidium> The marginal difference of 0.000125 days between the Gregorian calendar average year and the actual year means that, in 8,000 years, the calendar will be about one day behind where it is now. But in 8,000 years, the length of the vernal equinox year will have changed by an amount that cannot be accurately predicted. 19:14:39 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: yes, that's why there are in fact most 13th fridays 19:15:14 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: see the table on that page http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freitag,_der_13.#H.C3.A4ufigkeit 19:15:20 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 400*365.2425 19:15:20 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 146097 19:15:23 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 400*365.2425/7 19:15:24 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 20871 19:15:27 <Eddi|zuHause> indeed 19:15:56 <frosch123> yeah, it's totally awesome 19:16:10 <frosch123> though i wonder whether it is intentionaly choosen that way :) 19:17:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i have my doubts :) 19:31:06 <Eddi|zuHause> http://openplanb.tumblr.com/image/26625083923 <-- the rail network in germany (and neighbouring countries) 19:31:44 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:32:24 <frosch123> does not look like a track network, rather like connections 19:32:33 <frosch123> cargodist style :p 19:32:40 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 19:32:56 <Eddi|zuHause> http://openplanb.tumblr.com/ <-- has also two videos 19:33:12 <Rubidium> it's rather old 19:33:49 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: it might not have all connections 19:34:03 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 19:34:41 <Rubidium> well, the Berlin EC/IC stops at all major stations in the NLs. This image shows it stopping at half of them, exactly the situation of roughly 5 years ago 19:36:31 *** tom47407 [5c0a27b9@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:40:23 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-170-205-142.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:51:00 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-054-150.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 20:07:04 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-75.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:07:14 * LordAro waves at all 20:07:28 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.77.149] has joined #openttd 20:08:42 <LordAro> anyone got any idea why my regex isn't working? : s/Util\.Debug\([0-9 ], 0, /Util\.Debug\("aroai", , / 20:09:12 <LordAro> it kinda works, but the number isn't replaced by what it was () 20:09:17 <LordAro> it's just blank 20:11:00 <Eddi|zuHause> you need () to make a group 20:11:35 <Eddi|zuHause> so ([0-9]) 20:12:19 <LordAro> that works, thanks! :D 20:13:16 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-105-227.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:01 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-170-205-142.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 16.0/20120828083259]] 20:39:45 <Eddi|zuHause> it's amazing how things suddenly start to work once you do them correctly :p 20:41:41 <Alberth> it does? I regularly have to code for a few weeks before the first time I can run the code :p 20:44:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd go mad trying to resolve several weeks worth of syntax errors :) 20:46:21 * andythenorth considers a power plant for FIRS 20:46:38 <andythenorth> maybe all industries should be black hole 20:46:39 <andythenorth> hmm 20:46:45 <andythenorth> "the black hole industry set" 20:47:49 <frosch123> that would break si valley 20:49:24 <Alberth> a black hole, a green hole, a yellow hole... 20:53:59 <Terkhen> good night 20:54:15 <Alberth> good night Terkhen 20:55:23 <andythenorth> moi aussi 20:55:30 <andythenorth> ciao 20:55:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 20:59:57 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 21:03:33 *** tom47407 [5c0a27b9@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 21:06:39 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:13 <frosch123> night 21:23:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdd0c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:26 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:38:20 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 21:49:51 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 21:50:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B0BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:54 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-118-10.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:08:04 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-75.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:24 <Wolf01> I partially solved the ctrl problem with the touch screen, I bound it to a gesture, but I need to do the gesture for every click (first the gesture, then click) :P 22:09:59 <planetmaker> ui 22:10:06 <planetmaker> sounds tedious, Wolf01 :-) 22:10:29 <Wolf01> but at least I can share the orders :D 22:11:05 <Wolf01> the problem is to click on the vehicle in movement, I must touch it at the first time 22:11:51 <Eddi|zuHause> how do you ctrl+click a vehicle then? :) 22:12:52 <Eddi|zuHause> wouldn't it be easier to use two-finger click or something? 22:13:27 <Wolf01> two fingers click does right click 22:13:37 <Wolf01> which is not so useful on OTTD 22:14:45 <Wolf01> I'm thinking about a toolbar sticked somewhere with ctrl (toggleable), canc/del and maybe other useful keys (enter?) 22:15:02 <Wolf01> another problem is the gui, I already use the biggui grf, but some elements aren't correctly scaled :( 22:15:49 *** Kylie [kvirc@CPE18593346e177-CM18593346e174.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 22:15:52 <Kylie> Hello 22:16:00 <Wolf01> hi 22:16:02 <Kylie> What is the best tram newgrf ? 22:17:06 <Wolf01> I don't know, I use many of them :P 22:17:31 <Wolf01> I think the one I use more is eGRVTS or something like it 22:19:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i always use GermanRV, but it has a few flaws 22:21:18 <Wolf01> I must go now, I really need to sleep 22:21:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host218-143-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:24:13 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:25:09 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:30:16 <Kylie> i have egrvts now, but i dont see any trams 22:30:53 <Kylie> where are these set up? 22:31:05 <planetmaker> change the road type 22:31:16 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-054-150.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 22:31:20 <Kylie> ah 22:31:20 <planetmaker> you can only build them in a tram depot 22:31:22 <Kylie> now i see 22:31:30 <Kylie> thanks planetmaker 22:31:35 <planetmaker> yw 22:32:25 <Kylie> do i have to build a way from the depot to the actual route 22:32:28 * planetmaker wonders whether the existence of other rail and road types needs to be made clearer in the UI 22:32:46 <planetmaker> Kylie, you even have to build the complete route 22:33:01 <planetmaker> trans run on tram tracks. not on road 22:33:06 <Kylie> right 22:33:09 <Kylie> makes sense 22:33:10 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:34:13 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/Tramways 22:34:45 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/Tramways#Tramway_construction_toolbar this section actually 22:36:17 <Kylie> so why are trams better than buses if the ones in the egrvts set hold the exact same amount oif passengers as buses 22:36:47 <Eddi|zuHause> that you must ask to the set designers 22:37:04 <planetmaker> maybe faster? or faster loading time? Or no reason and your assumption that they are "better" is wrong 22:37:21 <planetmaker> (by what standards after all is 'good' or 'better' defined? 22:37:30 <Supercheese> I rarely use eGRVTS for passenger transport 22:37:40 <Supercheese> other vehicle sets provide much more efficient vehicles 22:37:53 <Supercheese> (also the eGRVTS 2 grf has no pax vehicles ;) ) 22:58:19 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:20:40 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-120-175.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:27:15 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:58:51 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd