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01:24:49 <hmmwhatsthisdo> Should I just reinstall? 02:05:30 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.77] has joined #openttd 02:05:39 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:05:39 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 02:10:13 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-120-73.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:10:31 *** al3x [~Miranda@91-64-97-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:14:37 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 02:14:37 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:20:56 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:74ae:6c3c:641a:d200] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:34:44 *** Netsplit kilo.oftc.net <-> reticulum.oftc.net quits: TheMask96, luckz, brambles, Fuco, Rubidium, Vadtec, CornishPasty, szaman, Snail, hmmwhatsthisdo, (+81 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 02:35:24 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-120-73.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 02:35:27 *** Netsplit over, joins: dada_, roadt, hmmwhatsthisdo, Djohaal, tokai|mdlx, BadBrett, Snail, V453000, XeryusTC_, Osai (+81 more) 02:35:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 02:43:12 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.22.30.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45:09 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@5.9.88.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:45:11 *** SmatZ [~smatz@5.9.88.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:45:11 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@5.9.88.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:45:39 *** avdg [~avdg@5.9.88.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:45:41 *** Yexo [~Yexo@5.9.88.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:46:34 *** Osai [~Osai@openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:46:37 *** tneo [~tneo@5.9.88.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:47:04 *** XeryusTC_ [~XeryusTC@openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:47:04 *** V453000 [~V453000@openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:48:17 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@5.9.88.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:48:29 *** Guest1072 [~planetmak@5.9.88.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:49:21 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:58:38 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.77] has joined #openttd 03:32:24 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 03:35:14 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:36:54 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 04:14:51 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 04:33:45 <Rubidium> hmmwhatsthisdo: if you want that 'old' extra zoom patch then you have to reinstall that old version 04:34:09 <Rubidium> hmmwhatsthisdo: however, extra zoom is now in the official release 04:34:48 <hmmwhatsthisdo> Rubidium: I need to get rid of it, I think I might've stashed an old NewGRF somewhere and now it's making ridiculously high zoom levels 04:35:52 <hmmwhatsthisdo> I'm tempted to just reinstall it 04:36:06 <Rubidium> did you compile OpenTTD yourself? 04:37:16 <hmmwhatsthisdo> nope 04:37:30 <Rubidium> if you didn't then the patch from 1.1.x can't have been 'transfered' to 1.2.2 04:37:42 <hmmwhatsthisdo> huh. 04:37:48 <Rubidium> so you are just using the default extra zoom feature 04:37:58 <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh, ok 04:38:18 <Rubidium> if you think you're zooming in too far, there is an advanced setting to limit the amount of zoom in and zoom out 04:39:31 <hmmwhatsthisdo> well, I'm not worried that much about the zoom itself, I'm more worried about the significant drop in fast-forward speed, which was much higher before upgrading 04:40:01 <hmmwhatsthisdo> (I assumed the two might be related) 04:40:50 <Rubidium> I have no idea whether they are related; they might be, but it's hard to be certain 04:41:07 <Rubidium> nevertheless changing the maximum zoom in might help 04:42:30 <hmmwhatsthisdo> just tried it, no dice 04:50:48 <Rubidium> have you used any NewGRFs? If so, which ones exactly? 04:52:13 <Rubidium> might be that one enabled 32bpp which might be significantly slower 04:53:14 <Supercheese> wait, if a grf enables 32bpp it might significantly slow down OTTD? 04:53:25 <Supercheese> just by enabling? 04:53:36 <Supercheese> or does it have to also have larger sprite (file)sizes? 04:54:23 <Rubidium> that, and hardware accelerated sprite recolouring is faster than software 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66F59.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:56:23 <Rubidium> a long time ago I did a test; 8bpp non-animated was roughly as fast as 8bpp animated, but 32bpp non-animated was significantly faster than 32bpp animated (and IIRC 32bpp non-animated was only slightly slower than 32bpp animated) 04:57:03 <Rubidium> in any case, a few years ago we had these kinds of complaints from OS X users about the (perceived) slowing of fast forward 04:58:00 <Rubidium> just around the time 32bpp-animated became default for OS X due to them removing hardware accelerated 8bpp from their hardware/software without their APIs returning "I can't do that" 05:14:25 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-90-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 05:17:55 <hmmwhatsthisdo> Rubidium: No 32bpp NewGRFs 05:18:37 <hmmwhatsthisdo> though, my laptop uses a 32bpp base set and is noticeably faster, I wonder if the same case as what you mentioned is happening here 05:21:09 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:26:12 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:27:08 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 05:37:09 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 05:46:24 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:47:59 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 05:49:57 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 05:53:21 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:53:21 *** Zeknurn` is now known as Zeknurn 06:03:18 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 06:03:31 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:17:20 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 06:27:49 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:27:51 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 06:28:43 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 06:31:47 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:31:47 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:54:55 *** dostoj [~dostoj@178.115.251.130.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #openttd 06:57:19 <dostoj> hi! I've downloaded CityBuilder.tar from bananas. I put it into ./openttd/game (using linux). How do I run the script? 06:57:36 <dostoj> It won't show up anywhere in the game file chooser 06:58:04 <Supercheese> try AI/Gamescript settings 06:58:09 <Supercheese> from main menu 06:58:31 <dostoj> yes, i can see it there 06:58:45 <dostoj> i can configure it 06:58:48 <Supercheese> select the game script, start a new game 06:58:50 <Supercheese> works, no? 06:59:30 <dostoj> yes 06:59:37 <dostoj> thanks a lot 06:59:41 <Supercheese> you're welcome 07:01:58 *** dostoj [~dostoj@178.115.251.130.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:08:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67BA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:17:09 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:21:07 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-007-174.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 07:22:01 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:26:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6DEA0.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:38:10 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 07:40:41 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:50:06 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:55:27 *** argoneus [~argoneus@smtp.gvp.cz] has joined #openttd 08:06:12 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 08:06:50 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 08:07:33 *** argoneus [~argoneus@smtp.gvp.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:08:56 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 08:08:56 *** George is now known as Guest1115 08:08:57 *** George|2 is now known as George 08:14:31 *** Guest1115 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:17:48 *** hmmwhatsthisdo [~hmmwhatst@h75-100-224-83.lactwa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:23:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i sense a spam attack 08:28:01 *** planet [86a91c2a@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:31:22 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 08:40:27 *** perk11 [~perk11@46.242.10.233] has joined #openttd 09:03:12 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@5.9.88.173] has joined #openttd 09:03:41 *** SmatZ [~smatz@5.9.88.173] has joined #openttd 09:03:41 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@5.9.88.173] has joined #openttd 09:04:11 *** Yexo [~Yexo@5.9.88.173] has joined #openttd 09:04:11 *** avdg [~avdg@5.9.88.173] has joined #openttd 09:04:42 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@5.9.88.173] has joined #openttd 09:05:09 *** planetmaker is now known as Guest1119 09:05:11 *** tneo [~tneo@5.9.88.173] has joined #openttd 09:05:41 *** Osai [~Osai@5.9.88.173] has joined #openttd 09:11:41 *** V453000 [~V453000@openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 09:11:41 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 09:11:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o Terkhen] by ChanServ 09:12:11 *** XeryusTC_ [~XeryusTC@openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 09:21:10 *** planet [86a91c2a@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 09:24:09 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:34:32 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.77] has joined #openttd 09:53:35 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 10:03:36 <Terkhen> hello 10:04:39 <NGC3982> What - in reality - does the town campaigns do? 10:04:46 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:04:50 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 10:05:32 <NGC3982> The Wiki states: "temporarily raise(s) nearby station ratings" 10:05:34 <NGC3982> That's it? 10:08:22 <Pinkbeast> That's my understanding. (But that can mean, as well as more cargo, better relations with the town, which is a constant bleeding ulcer any time you look at a tree funny...) 10:09:00 <NGC3982> I see. 10:09:09 <NGC3982> It would be nice to see the actual mechanics behind it. 10:09:49 <NGC3982> Since (if it's more than just station rating) it seems a bit vague. 10:10:56 <Pinkbeast> I am not aware of any suggestion it is more than just station rating. 10:11:08 <NGC3982> Ok. 10:22:08 <peter1138> The source is out there... 10:24:14 <__ln__> peter1138: off-topic question: would you say that in "x = (int) y" y is casted to int? 10:25:35 <peter1138> No, it's cast to int. 10:27:15 <TyrHeimdal> Is there a place I can suggest features for the game? 10:27:37 <TyrHeimdal> or is this it? :) 10:27:48 <peter1138> I would suggest the forums. 10:27:54 <peter1138> -s 10:28:03 <__ln__> #elsewhere i saw a native english speaker using 'casted' as the past tense. and he agreed it should be 'cast' when i asked about it, but he hadn't thought about it until then. 10:28:13 <NGC3982> peter1138: The source? 10:29:11 <__ln__> so i was wondering if "to cast" in programming context is perhaps subconsciously considered to be a different verb than the usual kind of "to cast". 10:31:12 <peter1138> There's more than one meaning of cast without the programming sense. 10:32:00 <peter1138> There's cast as in thrown or projected, and as in casting a fishing line. 10:32:43 <peter1138> Then there is cast as in an actor is cast in a role. That meaning probably fits the programming sense too. 10:37:47 <__ln__> does it have anything to do with the caste system of e.g. india? 10:38:44 <peter1138> I find that unlikely. 10:41:03 <NGC3982> Afaik, "to cast" in Swenglish is to set a variable to a value. 10:41:06 <NGC3982> Or something like that 10:41:50 <peter1138> You know incorrectly... 10:42:34 <NGC3982> I have no idea, i have just overheard someone saying it. 10:42:59 <peter1138> Swenglish refering to...? 10:43:16 <NGC3982> Swedes using english slang. 10:43:27 <__ln__> Then there's the concept of 'integer promotion', which somehow implies that one type is better than the other, like with castes. 10:43:35 <TyrHeimdal> OK, so i suggested a feature in the forums! wohoo! :D 10:43:50 <peter1138> Give it a few minutes for it to be shot down :-) 10:44:31 <TyrHeimdal> peter1138: no worries, I know how forums work ^^ 10:44:36 <TyrHeimdal> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=62914 10:44:48 <__ln__> Swenglish would be quite a nice term also for swedes attempting to speak English. :) They tend to mix Swedish words or Swedish-like spelling into English. 10:44:49 <TyrHeimdal> in case anyone was wondering what it was 10:45:28 <NGC3982> __ln__: Indeed. Like "headshotta" > "to make a headshot". 10:45:37 <NGC3982> It's very normal in online gaming lingo, afaik. 10:45:57 <peter1138> The correct term for that is HEADSHOT! 10:46:18 <TyrHeimdal> you must be joking...it's "BOOM! HEADSHOT!" 10:46:19 <TyrHeimdal> ^^ 10:46:35 <NGC3982> M-m-m-m-m-monster kill! \o/ 10:47:00 <TyrHeimdal> reminds me, I should rewatch pure pwnage 10:47:28 <TyrHeimdal> it's just silly :P 10:47:34 <Terkhen> TyrHeimdal: there is a patch for close airports 10:47:49 <TyrHeimdal> wait, whaaaat? 10:47:52 <TyrHeimdal> how did I miss that? 10:48:15 <Terkhen> I think that it was committed but I'm not sure 10:48:44 <Terkhen> failed a "close airport" forum search? :P 10:49:01 <TyrHeimdal> I failed at spelling >< 10:49:09 <TyrHeimdal> "close airoprt" 10:49:16 <__ln__> TyrHeimdal: you misspelled "than" as "then", and "break" as "brake" in your post. 10:49:54 <Terkhen> check the patch thread for details, start by the end just in case it is committed 10:50:13 <Terkhen> blame my poor memory if it is not 10:50:27 <TyrHeimdal> __ln__: thanks, fixed. English isn't my native tounge 10:50:41 <__ln__> not mine either 10:52:14 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-120-73.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:55:08 <Guest1119> well, yes, play nightly OpenTTD, TyrHeimdal ;-) 10:55:21 *** Guest1119 is now known as planetmaker 10:55:48 <TyrHeimdal> planetmaker: yeap, just saw it :D 10:56:32 <TyrHeimdal> hmm, don't know exactly how to phrase this question, but I'll give it a go. 10:56:33 <Terkhen> :) 10:57:32 <TyrHeimdal> What's the "best" way to exploit the industries. build railways between the closest providers to the closest users? or build large infrastructures to transport it to a central factory/sawmill/whatnot and distribute it from there? 10:57:55 <planetmaker> what is your definition of "best"? :-) 10:58:14 <TyrHeimdal> no idea 10:58:16 <TyrHeimdal> best practice? 10:58:44 <planetmaker> what's your scale you measure it by? 10:58:49 <TyrHeimdal> that's why I didn't know exactly how to ask ^^ 10:59:05 <TyrHeimdal> hmmm 10:59:15 <planetmaker> Money? fun? points? amount of cargo per unit time? amount of vehicles needed (few / many)? transport modes used? 10:59:38 <TyrHeimdal> fun and efficiensy perhaps 10:59:45 <planetmaker> as there's no definition of "best" which suits all people, many answers can be right. Which even are mutually exclusive 10:59:58 <TyrHeimdal> planetmaker: I like you :) 11:00:23 <planetmaker> :-) 11:00:48 <planetmaker> generally, you usually make more money, if you transport goods over large(r) distances 11:00:56 <planetmaker> short distances don't pay very well 11:01:18 <TyrHeimdal> I usually start by finding an area of 3-4-5 forests/coals/iron ore and take it its counterpart. but then I move on to the next "patch" 11:01:46 <planetmaker> So in order to make loads of money to get going I usually start with a single long route 11:02:12 <planetmaker> Either passengers between two large towns. Or maybe coal or wood from a cluster of mines / forests to a distant power plant or saw mill 11:02:30 <planetmaker> distant means >= 100 tiles 11:02:48 <planetmaker> when I have that money I can build whatever and however I want 11:03:29 <TyrHeimdal> ok, so with a long rail line from a cluster to a "central" sawmill or other industry, build small lines from the sides to collect to transfer points along the first long line? 11:03:37 <TyrHeimdal> with smaller trains? 11:03:41 <planetmaker> and it even helps when playing with goal scripts like SiliconValley or NoCarGoal which require you to transport a certain cargo within a certain time frame to a certain place 11:03:54 <planetmaker> my train length varies between 4 and 7 11:03:58 <planetmaker> usually 5 tiles 11:04:10 <planetmaker> always using full load orders 11:04:39 <TyrHeimdal> all going down the long line, or transferring to haulers along the main line? 11:05:17 <planetmaker> I might transfer to one station within a local cluster from which then trains haul the long road to the destination. Or I might not. Depends 11:05:36 <TyrHeimdal> this game has SO many variables to consider ^^ 11:05:51 <planetmaker> If it's a short transfer to a transfer station, RV might also come in handy for small amounts 11:06:14 <TyrHeimdal> not sure why, but I sort of don't like RVs 11:06:15 <planetmaker> or a ship to bridge a gap of water 11:06:35 <planetmaker> but generally trains make the biggest money 11:06:36 <planetmaker> for me 11:07:00 <TyrHeimdal> I tend to go plane heavy, but that's not so much fun in the long run 11:08:07 <planetmaker> if you like crazy games, visit http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive and have a look. You'll need the grfpack from http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/GRF 11:08:26 <planetmaker> planes are dead boring to me. No infrastructure, no thinking needed. And too low capacity 11:08:44 <planetmaker> and not extendable; airports have a low limit on throughput 11:13:37 <TyrHeimdal> Yeah, I agree 11:13:57 <TyrHeimdal> I want to build large complex networks, but I don't have the skills 11:14:01 <TyrHeimdal> ...yet 11:14:37 <planetmaker> one of my favourite games are http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_91_-_100#gameid_99 and http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_131_-_140#gameid_132 11:15:06 <planetmaker> especially the latter was fun. With 15 sub-networks built by different people. All connected by a huge ICE network 11:15:22 <planetmaker> (and yes, the image is "my" ice terminal :-P) 11:16:52 <TyrHeimdal> wow 11:17:06 <TyrHeimdal> is that some sort of cargo holding area on the sides? 11:17:16 <planetmaker> Feel free to join #openttdcoop and one of its servers. There people usually build this kind of stuff collectively. It's a great place to learn this building style 11:17:24 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:35 <planetmaker> those are station tiles. But just for eye candy to show waiting cargo 11:17:55 <planetmaker> it has no functional effect other than looking nice 11:18:22 <TyrHeimdal> does it actually show waiting cargo ammount in some way, or is it static? 11:18:50 <planetmaker> it's related to the amount of waiting cargo, yes. But on a per-tile basis. In kinda 3 or four amounts 11:19:09 <planetmaker> empty, 1/3, 2/3 and 3/3 or so for certain amounts which I don't know 11:19:18 <TyrHeimdal> cool 11:20:52 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:20:53 <planetmaker> download the savegame and see yourself ;-) 11:20:57 <TyrHeimdal> i will! 11:21:08 <TyrHeimdal> oh what the ... 11:21:20 <TyrHeimdal> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_131_-_140#gameid_131 11:21:27 <planetmaker> it will need the additional grfs in the grfpack I linked earlier (and some from the online content) 11:21:31 <TyrHeimdal> that looked....complex 11:21:56 <TyrHeimdal> kk, I'll check it out when I get home from work ^^ 11:22:24 <planetmaker> yes... advanced stuff to minimize train distance on main line tracks in order to increase overall track capacity and through-put 11:25:33 <dada__> would be fun to build something like that irl 11:25:47 <dada__> poor blokes who have to drive the trains in the loops 24/7 :) 11:27:17 <planetmaker> play in modern times and use robot trains for it ;-) 11:27:57 <dada__> I should really get in on this openttd coop thing sometime...would probably improve my openttd skillz significantly 11:28:54 <TyrHeimdal> newbe question. That GRF-pack, the readme didn't say anything about how to "install" it 11:28:59 <TyrHeimdal> where to extract I'm guessing 11:29:35 <planetmaker> just unzip in your newgrf folder.. like c:\documents\my files\OpenTTD\newgrf 11:29:46 <planetmaker> or whatever. depends on OS (version) 11:30:12 <planetmaker> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/browser/tags/1.2.2/readme.txt#L273 11:32:07 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:37 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 11:35:13 <TyrHeimdal> off to a meeting, bbl 11:35:15 <TyrHeimdal> :) 11:35:57 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:39:28 *** argoneus [~argoneus@smtp.gvp.cz] has joined #openttd 11:59:33 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@eduroam-27.felk.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 12:06:09 *** argoneus [~argoneus@smtp.gvp.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:13:31 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08e306.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:13:57 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:21:19 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-96-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 12:26:11 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-103-111.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:44:17 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:47:00 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: goodbyte] 13:23:31 *** wahyu [76615f17@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:26:07 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-90-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [] 13:30:07 *** wahyu [76615f17@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:35:54 <Belugas> hello 13:55:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DEA0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:58:52 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-101-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:03:26 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-96-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:04:40 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@eduroam-27.felk.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 14:05:29 <peter1138> What happened in here? Quiet for 2œ hours... 14:12:39 <NGC3982> Is that something out of the ordinary? 14:13:42 <peter1138> Probably not. 14:17:30 <NGC3982> ;-) 14:22:24 <szaman> everybody watches the man falling down from 36 km in the air 14:26:57 <__ln__> oh, that. url? 14:27:11 <peter1138> This isn't that, but still... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-19868327 14:29:06 <__ln__> redbullstratos.com 14:34:54 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:35:26 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 14:43:54 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:57:06 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-125-10-83.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:25:45 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 15:40:54 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:50:31 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:54 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:13:25 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 16:14:16 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:16:01 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:02 *** Devroush36 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:20:58 *** planet [5c4c7966@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:30:42 <BadBrett> hmmm... what is the exact syntax for getting a groundsprite slope...? i read the documentation but i don't seem to get it 16:33:58 <Supercheese> nearby_tile_slope 16:34:02 <Supercheese> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:List_of_tile_slopes 16:34:08 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8409:1c1:957c:89af] has joined #openttd 16:34:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:34:18 <Supercheese> (or at least, I think) 16:34:25 <Supercheese> I haven't don't much with tile slopes myself 16:34:28 <Supercheese> done* 16:36:10 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-007-174.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 16:42:08 *** keoz [~keikoz@79.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:50:35 *** planet [5c4c7966@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:16:16 *** Nat_aS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:52 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:18:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:19:19 *** jose [~chatzilla@brln-4db8652a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:12 <jose> hi, is there a way to create multiple dedicated servers with a single openttd installation(with multiple configs...)? 17:21:44 <jose> i have a debian and a windows root... 17:22:19 <jose> i was able to start a single server, but multiple...? 17:24:27 <Alberth> doesn't openttd have an option to specify where to pull the config from? 17:24:49 <jose> i just saw the option to load savegames... 17:25:55 <Alberth> -c config_file = Use 'config_file' instead of 'openttd.cfg' ?? 17:25:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:03 <Alberth> ie ./openttd -h 17:26:52 <Alberth> in the worst case, you can make links of the openttd files at different places, I guess 17:26:52 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:09 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 17:29:55 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:30:19 <Terkhen> IIRC -c config_file works 17:30:34 <Alberth> hi Terkhen 17:31:04 <Terkhen> hi :P 17:34:14 <Alberth> SiliconValley (v2): SiliconValley <-- interesting description :) 17:40:40 *** Nat_aS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 17:43:50 <NGC3982> Abort on Stratos for today. :( 17:44:14 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-110-77.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 17:45:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24578 trunk/src/lang/norwegian_bokmal.txt (2012-10-09 17:45:08 UTC) 17:45:16 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> norwegian_bokmal - 9 changes by Tinman 17:48:56 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:49:40 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 17:49:59 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-101-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:50:01 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 17:52:25 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:53:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B7E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:54:35 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:56:59 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:58:32 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:59:28 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A19164.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:21 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:07 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-222-231-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:03:17 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-62-174.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:03:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B7E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:46 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 18:04:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4880.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:06:44 <fonsinchen> http://farm.openttd.org/browse/OTTD3PT-CD-SOURCE-47 18:06:55 <fonsinchen> There seems to be a problem with the build farm 18:07:12 <fonsinchen> Obviously it's run out of space for unpacking the Cargodist source 18:07:38 <fonsinchen> Maybe that should be fixed ... 18:08:01 <fonsinchen> probably we can delete some old revisions 18:08:34 <Alberth> planetmaker: ^^ ? (ammler does not seem online) 18:08:47 <fonsinchen> actually it seems this is entirely unrelated to the actual place where the finished builds get uploaded to, though. 18:09:42 <fonsinchen> The build farm probably has its own space to unpack and build before bundling it up and saving it on the openttdcoop server. That is probably full. 18:10:05 <Alberth> oh sorry, you are not speaking of the devzone!! 18:10:26 <Alberth> TrueBrain: ^^ 18:12:57 <Alberth> alternatively you can send a email to info@openttd.org, that will definitely get to the right person 18:13:16 <frosch123> nah, TrueBrain loves being highlighted 18:13:26 <fonsinchen> Nice, there is an email address now ... 18:13:39 <Alberth> ther has been for many years :p 18:13:43 <fonsinchen> I'll wait some more to see if he shows up and then write the mail. 18:14:09 <fonsinchen> If I had known I had spared myself a lot of useless waiting around in the IRC channel. 18:14:23 <Alberth> with TB you never know when he turns up 18:15:34 <FLHerne> fonsinchen: I was moaning about that :P 18:17:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:17:13 <Zuu> Hello andythenorth 18:17:55 *** Matulla [~chatzilla@95-89-101-95-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 18:18:10 <andythenorth> hello 18:18:28 <Matulla> Hi im in trouble and i dont know why ->http://mechmo.de/sammel2018.png 18:18:43 <Matulla> Train 182 does not move to the station 18:19:22 <Zuu> Matulla: The tracks of the "free" plattform have a reservation. 18:19:43 <Matulla> i used all the time this kind of signals it works on other stations but not here 18:20:29 <Matulla> Zuu: as you say i see also the gray color but why 18:20:39 <Alberth> something special must have happened here 18:20:49 <Zuu> You can get ride of it by forcing a train to pass over the track. 18:21:02 <Zuu> But it's not something you get without a special reason. 18:21:07 <Matulla> the left track has been modified 18:21:32 <Matulla> from a other trainsystem 18:21:52 <Matulla> so breakdown and rebuild will be a solution 18:21:57 <Zuu> You could remove the possibility to enter the left track and theng use the button to force train 182 to pass the signal. 18:22:40 <Matulla> if i change the sig direction towards 182 train it moves on 18:23:20 <Matulla> i kill the reservated tiles and make new ones see what happesn 18:23:21 <Zuu> Change the tracks so that train 182 only can go straight. Then click on the button with a signal and a red cross on it on the train window. 18:23:50 <Zuu> (if you don't change the tracks first, it may either use your bypass or crash your other train) 18:24:12 <Matulla> i see 18:24:34 <Zuu> When you force a train over a stale resarvation, it will clear the stale resarvation. 18:25:09 <Zuu> However, unless you force it to run over the reservation, it will not do it by itself as the tracks are reserved. 18:27:08 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:27:22 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:27:34 <Alberth> you may also stop the other train temporarily, so it does not start suddenly when you don't expect it 18:27:40 <Alberth> +want to 18:27:42 <TrueBrain> out of diskspace? oh-oh, sounds terrible 18:29:11 <fonsinchen> well, the other plans seem to be OK. I don't know how it's set up but obviously it's not globally out of space ... 18:30:24 <TrueBrain> holy crap 18:30:27 <TrueBrain> the last few have been HUGE 18:30:29 <TrueBrain> 2GB .. 18:30:38 <fonsinchen> cargodist? 18:30:43 <TrueBrain> yes 18:30:53 <TrueBrain> what the hell did you put in it? :D 18:30:53 <fonsinchen> What are you downloading there? 18:31:19 <TrueBrain> do you ever repack the git or anything? 18:31:24 <TrueBrain> hmm, shouldnt really matter 18:31:29 <TrueBrain> well, it might 18:31:32 <TrueBrain> seems a git checkout is 2GB 18:32:12 <fonsinchen> I can't do that; it's github's job. 18:32:16 <fonsinchen> I think 18:32:21 <TrueBrain> seems it fails at it or what ever 18:32:24 <fonsinchen> mine 66M 18:32:25 <TrueBrain> I now changed it to a shallow checkout 18:32:27 <TrueBrain> hope that works 18:32:46 <fonsinchen> thanks 18:33:00 <TrueBrain> started a compile 18:33:06 <TrueBrain> please validate the result when it is done :) 18:35:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:35:13 <Wolf01> oddink 18:35:36 <TrueBrain> hmm, no, still huge 18:35:53 <TrueBrain> yeah, .git is 2GB big 18:36:13 <fonsinchen> I'll see if I can trigger a repack on github 18:36:44 <TrueBrain> trying a few things on my end too 18:38:33 *** Matulla [~chatzilla@95-89-101-95-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713225625]] 18:40:44 <Alberth> oddink Wolf01 18:41:17 <TrueBrain> weird, the git checkout is only 9 MiB ... 18:43:44 <fonsinchen> It seems I have to delete the repository and recreate it. They won't garbage-collect it. 18:43:49 <fonsinchen> Argh ... 18:43:51 <TrueBrain> hmm 18:43:54 <TrueBrain> I might have the problem 18:43:55 <TrueBrain> one sec 18:44:56 <TrueBrain> there we go 18:45:07 <TrueBrain> for some reason, it never cleaned the old .git 18:45:12 <TrueBrain> and then git seems to act very very weird 18:45:45 <TrueBrain> I still have it on shallow copy, so lemme know if that poses any issues (think about version detection etc) 18:46:25 <fonsinchen> I'll check when it's built 18:46:39 <TrueBrain> nightly is running, so will be a bit :) 18:46:44 <fonsinchen> thanks 18:46:58 <TrueBrain> and all controllers are offline, so that will be never 18:47:00 <TrueBrain> lolz 18:47:09 <TrueBrain> now I also know why the agents went offline :D 18:47:27 <TrueBrain> I couldnt figure that out .. but it ran out of diskspace, then just stops :D 18:47:43 <TrueBrain> I have to make a new disk specially for builds, so that cannot happen I guess :) 18:51:39 <TrueBrain> fonsinchen: ge8747397-cd, correct version? 18:51:48 <fonsinchen> looks good 18:52:06 <TrueBrain> okay; it is queued .. 2 hours or so, and it will be cooked :) 18:52:09 <TrueBrain> tnx for letting me know :) 18:56:39 <jose> one quick last question.... is there a rcon-command for [>>] fast forward? 18:59:23 <FLHerne> fonsinchen: Is there any inter-version compatibility yet? 19:00:06 <fonsinchen> No. It would be seriously messy to implement that. I don't want to do it. 19:01:21 <FLHerne> Surely that would rule out trunk inclusion? 19:01:37 <FLHerne> Or would the severe messiness not be needed in that case? 19:01:43 <frosch123> jose: there is no fast forward in multiplayer 19:01:43 <fonsinchen> When included in trunk this is no issue anymore 19:01:54 <fonsinchen> Cargodist is compatible to all trunk versions 19:02:30 <fonsinchen> The problem only arises if you want to play a game from a previous cargodist version in a new cargodist version. 19:02:40 <FLHerne> I know that bit 19:03:02 <fonsinchen> (and then also only if trunk has changed the savegame format in between those versions) 19:03:12 <FLHerne> But why would it be easier to make CDist backwards-compatible with itself when it was in trunk? 19:03:17 * FLHerne is curious :P 19:03:41 <FLHerne> fonsinchen: Ah, I didn't know that bit. That's useful 19:03:52 <fonsinchen> because versions are designed to be linear. There is no branching and merging of savegame versions 19:04:17 <fonsinchen> so at some point the old savegame version of cargodist has "branched off" 19:04:26 <fonsinchen> then the main trunk has added some versions 19:04:39 <fonsinchen> then the new cargodist savegame version has branched off 19:04:47 <jose> k thank you, good night... 19:04:53 *** jose [~chatzilla@brln-4db8652a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 19:05:09 <fonsinchen> there is not direct line of "heritage" between the two cargodist versions then 19:05:12 <FLHerne> fonsinchen: That makes sense. Thanks :-) 19:09:53 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r24579 /trunk/src (lang/english.txt vehicle.cpp) (2012-10-09 19:09:45 UTC) 19:09:54 <DorpsGek> -Change [FS#5322] (r21961): Show no loading indicator when orders are 'no unloading and no loading' (sbr) 19:10:22 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:15:19 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 19:16:51 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:51 *** Zeknurn` is now known as Zeknurn 19:19:04 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 19:22:24 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:22:59 * andythenorth ponders 19:27:18 * Alberth is quiet 19:27:36 <andythenorth> if an industry newgrf was implemented in python, would it be sane to do each industry as a module? 19:28:03 <andythenorth> there's enough stuff specific to each industry a class might not be enough 19:28:08 <andythenorth> or at least would be messy 19:28:15 <Alberth> yes, for both industry type and industry instance 19:29:10 <andythenorth> I considered if a class was enough, but there'll be so much sub-classing that I think it would be a headache 19:29:40 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:32:57 <Alberth> mixins could be an option 19:33:42 <andythenorth> python has mixins? o_O 19:33:45 * andythenorth googles 19:33:56 <andythenorth> oh multiple inheritance 19:34:23 <FLHerne> andythenorth: Python for NewGRFs is annoying. It makes building them fiddly :P 19:35:39 <andythenorth> yes 19:35:42 <andythenorth> "the state of python packaging" 19:35:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@176.14.44.21] has joined #openttd 19:36:20 <andythenorth> FLHerne: it's not that bloody fiddly 19:36:31 <andythenorth> you need python for nml anyway 19:36:40 <andythenorth> it's only chameleon that you have to install 19:37:08 <Alberth> any computer without Python installed on it is useless anyway :p 19:37:41 <andythenorth> maybe I should learn how buildout works, and provide a buildout 19:37:44 <andythenorth> cba though 19:38:33 <planetmaker> re-writing FIRS, andythenorth ? ;-) 19:38:39 <andythenorth> no 19:38:43 <andythenorth> that would be insane 19:38:52 <planetmaker> *phew* 19:38:55 <andythenorth> just playing 'what if' 19:39:19 <andythenorth> if all the tickets get done, I might rewrite it 19:39:23 <andythenorth> but then...why bother ;) 19:39:25 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-094-222-231-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:39:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DEA0.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40:43 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AF58.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:40:47 <Alberth> at that point, it is obviously finished, time to move on ;) 19:50:36 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:20 *** keoz [~keikoz@79.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 19:52:28 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-007-174.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:56:03 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:25:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19164.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:36:37 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24580 trunk/src/network/network_server.cpp (2012-10-09 20:36:31 UTC) 20:36:38 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5308]: Do not add duplicates to the ban list. (alechz) 20:37:26 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r24581 /trunk/src/script/api (3 files) (2012-10-09 20:37:20 UTC) 20:37:27 <DorpsGek> -Doc [FS#5318]: Indicate that the return value for script related order distances is the square of the distance 20:37:51 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-120-73.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:17 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:46:55 <__ln__> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/320333_474280659261293_1548836391_n.jpg 20:50:24 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-62-174.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:59:35 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r24582 /trunk/src/script/api (3 files) (2012-10-09 20:59:29 UTC) 20:59:36 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r24581): Order distances are not supposed to be compared to map distances 21:09:25 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4880.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:34 *** perk11 [~perk11@46.242.10.233] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 21:27:09 <Terkhen> good night 21:27:23 <planetmaker> night, Terkhen 21:28:07 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 21:29:05 *** Jake [~chatzilla@host81-156-48-130.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:51:26 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:57:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:03:58 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08e306.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 22:05:36 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-62-174.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 22:13:54 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.115.80.43] has joined #openttd 22:19:52 *** Jake [~chatzilla@host81-156-48-130.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:21:03 *** Jake [~chatzilla@host81-156-48-130.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:22:29 *** dfox [~dfox@89.177.105.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:35 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:24:41 <dada_> would it be an idea to have orders towards depots automatically be maintenance orders? 22:24:53 <dada_> since that is what they're mostly used for right 22:25:24 *** dfox [~dfox@rei.ipv6.dfox.org] has joined #openttd 22:28:00 <Jake> You can use them for anything *but* maintenance? 22:28:14 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-62-174.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:30 <dada_> my point exactly 22:28:51 <dada_> would save me a few precious planck times to not have to check the maintenance button 22:29:00 *** Jake [~chatzilla@host81-156-48-130.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:01 <Eddi|zuHause> use the Ctrl key 22:29:10 <dada_> aha 22:29:14 <dada_> that's interesting to know, thanks 22:29:23 *** Jake [~chatzilla@host81-156-48-130.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:32:52 <Wolf01> 'night 22:32:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:33:04 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:33:17 *** hmmwhatsthisdo [~hmmwhatst@h75-100-224-83.lactwa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #openttd 22:34:46 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:41:06 *** Devroush36 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:57:49 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc11-pres16-2-0-cust203.18-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:58:25 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc11-pres16-2-0-cust203.18-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 23:00:18 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 23:03:10 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-125-10-83.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:25:28 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-007-174.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:26:38 *** hmmwhatsthisdo [~hmmwhatst@h75-100-224-83.lactwa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has left #openttd [] 23:43:05 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:48:18 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:50:58 *** KritiK [~Maxim@176.14.44.21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:55:52 *** Jake [~chatzilla@host81-156-48-130.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:56:14 *** Jake [~chatzilla@host81-156-48-130.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd