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00:02:09 * drac_boy kicks flygon? :P 00:02:14 <Flygon> Honk 00:10:10 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Sturmi] 00:10:26 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@000123fe.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 00:10:29 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@2002:6d4a:c7b0::1] has joined #openttd 00:13:15 <drac_boy> so how're you flygon? 00:13:23 <Flygon> Addicted to MMO 00:13:24 <Flygon> You? 00:14:02 <drac_boy> doing ok 00:14:09 <Flygon> Goodie 00:44:00 *** Devroush36 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 00:48:23 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:23 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.170.86] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:03 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:12:08 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:37 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-049-095.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 01:33:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BE9D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 01:40:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6B082.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:01:33 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176109482.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 03:19:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BE9D.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:24:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A184.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:49:05 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 03:52:09 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-64-58.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 03:52:31 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-15-24.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:58:58 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 04:00:50 <Bad_Brett> hello 04:27:48 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.100.214] has joined #openttd 04:39:29 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 05:10:01 <DDR> Good day. 05:11:38 *** octet [~Adium@d75-157-3-234.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 05:21:01 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-64-58.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:33:02 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD52A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD477B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:12:41 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Sturmi] 06:27:05 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:37:50 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:37:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 06:43:15 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-52-190.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:44:24 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 06:53:01 *** octet [~Adium@d75-157-3-234.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:58:53 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 07:04:02 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 07:05:57 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 07:15:55 *** Devroush36 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:40:19 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:01:06 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:14:30 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:19:53 <NGC3982> Morning. 08:29:49 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:43:52 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 08:47:21 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:14:36 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:21:52 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:29:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 09:32:44 *** Devroush36 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:35:51 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:35:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:36:24 <Alberth> moin all 09:38:36 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:27 <Supercheese> I wish we could plagiarize from other games' graphics with impunity 09:57:07 <Supercheese> If that were so, I'd probably make a Star Wars grf :P 10:00:36 <V453000> draw it? :) 10:03:09 <V453000> "stealing" other graphics might not take much less time than actually drawing things I think 10:07:20 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:14:03 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: german copyright allows you to "freely draw pictures inspired by other pictures", so as long as you do not do exact pixel copies or automatic conversions... 10:26:40 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:35:51 <__ln___> but calling it "Star Wars" would certainly be a trademark problem 10:38:40 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-135-189.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:38:42 <NGC3982> Indeed. 10:38:56 <NGC3982> Although, "in style of" should do the trick? 10:40:05 <Supercheese> I dunno, how many pixels need be modified before it becomes "not an exact copy" 10:40:14 <Supercheese> ? 10:40:19 <Supercheese> anyway, time for sleep 10:40:59 <NGC3982> Well, if you create - from scratch - an industry that looks like the death star (and make sure to include who owns the real death star, and that you are "inspired by it" or similar) - You should be good, i guess. 10:41:32 <NGC3982> I remember reading something like this from people who wanted to make huge stuff in Minecraft. 10:41:44 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: you cannot "modify" pixels, as that means you made an exact copy first 10:42:04 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: you must place each pixel on an empty sheet by hand. only then it is "freely drawn" 10:42:20 <NGC3982> Since OpenTTD uses it's own graphics, i hardly think you can copy something non-OpenTTD-ish without making it "new". 10:44:46 <Alberth> if you just an electronic source, that's copying 10:45:05 <Alberth> I think it would even apply if you scan stuff from paper 10:45:29 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, anything that is automatic 10:47:20 <Eddi|zuHause> german copyright doesn't have a "fair use" clause, but instead strict exceptions for copyright. some of them include "you may make copies [of texts or music-sheets] only by hand-writing" 10:47:24 <Alberth> ie for something to be owned by you, you have to make it from scratch 10:47:52 <NGC3982> It sounds like a Star Wars inspired version of OpenTTD would be a "not available in your country" kind of thing. 10:47:55 <NGC3982> :( 10:48:43 <Eddi|zuHause> music is always somewhat special... 10:51:07 <NGC3982> But then again, OpenTTD uses the design of a wide variety of train models. 10:51:16 <NGC3982> I fail to see the difference. 10:53:13 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 10:53:42 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176109482.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 10:53:53 <drac_boy> hi 10:54:56 <Alberth> NGC3982: pixels of the trains were all drawn from scratch 10:55:01 <Alberth> hi drac_boy 10:55:19 <NGC3982> Alberth: As would a Tai Fighter NewGRF, i guess? 10:55:28 *** dada_ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has joined #openttd 10:56:53 <Alberth> NGC3982: there is a difference between using a photo of a design to draw your own pixels, and just copying the pixels as-is 10:57:45 <peter1138> Tai Fighter? Is that something out of QC? 10:58:09 <NGC3982> How ever you spell it. 10:58:36 <NGC3982> Alberth: Yes. I was under the impression that the engine created in NewGRFs was drawed by hand. 10:58:43 <NGC3982> engines 10:58:44 <NGC3982> * 10:59:30 <__ln___> *draw, drew, drawn 10:59:44 <Alberth> well, if you don't, it would look awful probably :) the scale is so very different 10:59:45 <dihedral> hello 10:59:48 <dihedral> hello Alberth :-) 10:59:50 <Alberth> hi dihedral 11:00:00 <dihedral> and the rest of course as well 11:01:49 <NGC3982> Alberth: I see. 11:01:52 <NGC3982> __ln___: Thank you. 11:02:01 <__ln___> you're welcome 11:02:02 <NGC3982> __ln___: ..You crazy finn. 11:04:28 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.100.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:10 *** dada__ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has joined #openttd 11:08:33 *** dada_ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09:39 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-135-189.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 11:09:54 <NGC3982> I'm so bored with OpenTTD, i'm playing toyland. 11:11:42 <CornishPasty> Madness! 11:12:32 <Alberth> toyland has very nicely animated industries 11:16:32 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.100.214] has joined #openttd 11:17:35 <Eddi|zuHause> original-toyland or opengfx-toyland? 11:21:59 <MNIM> Is it silly of me to build 230kmh freight trains? 11:22:48 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: I ..I have no idea. 11:22:57 <NGC3982> MNIM: Why would it? 11:23:04 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: Original. 11:23:53 <MNIM> well, apart from the highspeed trains they're the fastest trains on that particular line 11:24:38 <NGC3982> I would say, that depends on the freight (without any real knowledge) 11:25:04 <NGC3982> Coal freight in 230km/h with a kilometer long train feels a tad unrealistic. 11:25:09 <NGC3982> But that's just me. 11:25:38 <MNIM> plastics substrates. 11:25:45 <MNIM> 14 tiles long. 11:27:25 <NGC3982> Afaik, the French TGV is the fastest freight (postage) service. 11:27:39 <NGC3982> At 249km/h. 11:27:43 <NGC3982> I think it's 249. 11:27:47 <MNIM> I knew that 11:28:17 <MNIM> my hispeeds all have mail compartments. 11:28:25 <MNIM> those go 300+ in most places. 11:28:50 * NGC3982 didn't. 11:28:54 <NGC3982> Oh, ok. 11:29:35 <NGC3982> Is there a setting to allow multiple banks per town? 11:29:51 <NGC3982> Or is that Ok by default? 11:29:58 <MNIM> not that I know of. 11:30:01 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-135-189.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:30:23 <Alberth> it's an industry afaik, so you need the 'multiple industries per town' setting, I guess 11:31:02 <Alberth> but perhaps banks have additional restrictions 11:31:14 <NGC3982> Yes, i was thinking of the latter. 11:31:17 * NGC3982 tries it out. 11:32:52 <NGC3982> "There can only be one industry of this type per 150 houses" 11:32:55 <NGC3982> Well, that seems logical. 11:32:57 <NGC3982> Thanks. 11:33:24 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-135-189.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 11:33:57 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:34:10 <Alberth> that does not look like a string from openttd 11:34:42 <MNIM> shouldn't there be an extra 0 in there? 11:37:45 *** dada__ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:39:23 <Alberth> default banks need a town of 1200 people afaik, but how many houses that is, I don't know 11:40:55 <Alberth> there are no strings like above in the string data base of openttd 11:41:11 <Alberth> so you're not playing default banks :) 11:42:07 <NGC3982> It's OpenGFX+. 11:50:35 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51:07 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:52:19 <peter1138> hm, they added more things to that humble bundle 11:52:27 <peter1138> i only found out by seeing a picture of it on imgur o_O 11:53:00 <NGC3982> Wait 11:53:04 <NGC3982> When did you see that picture? 11:53:07 <NGC3982> Since i just uploaded it. 11:53:56 <peter1138> just now 11:53:59 <peter1138> uploaded 3 hours ago 11:57:40 *** dada_ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has joined #openttd 12:00:21 *** dada__ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has joined #openttd 12:02:31 *** dada_ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:10:47 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-135-189.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:33:11 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33:39 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 12:36:36 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:53:29 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@bas1-ottawa08-1176109482.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 12:55:01 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:04:22 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 13:18:28 *** dada_ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has joined #openttd 13:20:52 *** dada__ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:28:49 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 13:35:11 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:52:23 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 14:06:25 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:06:30 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 14:24:40 <Belugas> hello 14:51:47 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 14:54:23 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:54:26 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 14:56:56 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:56:59 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:14:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153EF4C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:18:25 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:18:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:32:29 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-64-58.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 15:34:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24798 /trunk/src/lang (54 files in 2 dirs) (2012-12-07 15:34:09 UTC) 15:34:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 15:34:24 <DorpsGek> basque - 374 changes by lutxiketa 15:34:25 <DorpsGek> catalan - 66 changes by arnau 15:34:26 <DorpsGek> finnish - 1 changes by jpx_ 15:34:27 <DorpsGek> italian - 1 changes by lorenzodv 15:34:28 <DorpsGek> russian - 8 changes by Lone_Wolf 15:34:29 <DorpsGek> ukrainian - 1 changes by Norby89 15:40:18 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:17 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-009-040.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 15:49:12 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-93-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:49:27 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08e5a0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:00:49 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-93-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 16:02:44 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 16:07:22 *** dada_ [~dada_@mail.smidswater.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:35 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-93-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:15:03 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:19:01 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-93-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30:41 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:48:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:21 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDCB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Sturmi] 16:54:20 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153EF4C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 16:57:38 <__ln___> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9gumhNCAAIvRqZ.jpg:large 16:59:42 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:13:30 <glx> nice one 17:23:57 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:00 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:36:27 *** Psyk [~Psyk@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:46:47 <Eddi|zuHause> hehe :) 17:48:00 <Eddi|zuHause> why the odd timing for the translator commit? 17:50:54 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:58:28 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:02:26 <Terkhen> hello :) 18:15:35 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 18:20:03 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.100.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:57 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:45 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:28:00 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has left #openttd [Oops. Did i really want to do that, or was it just my window focus again?] 18:28:07 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 18:28:10 <MNIM> wtf 18:28:13 <MNIM> wrong button. :/ 18:28:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 18:28:52 <MNIM> Anyway, has anyone ever noticed that those UFO disasters are really, really, REALLY FRIGGING annoying? 18:29:40 <MNIM> Keep noticing trains going places they shouldn't be going because a piece of rail went kerblewey 18:32:12 <Eddi|zuHause> no, you're the first one to ever point that out! 18:32:26 <Eddi|zuHause> HOW COULD WE HAVE MISSED THAT ALL THESE YEARS!!!! 18:33:50 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-94-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:34:00 <Wolf01> snowening o/ 18:34:40 *** Superuser [~superuser@host109-158-152-20.range109-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> does that cause more chaos than over here? 18:34:58 <Wolf01> the snow? 18:40:35 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 18:40:58 <Eddi|zuHause> In Berlin the S-Bahn explodes when coming in contact with snowflakes 18:42:06 <Eddi|zuHause> "the railway has only four enemies: spring, summer, autumn and winter" 18:42:25 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 18:42:29 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:42:53 <Alberth> MNIM: ufos are the one and only reason I stopped playing with disasters switched on 18:43:20 <Wolf01> here people still drive at 130km/h until the icy asphalt make them crash on a tree or the guardrail, then they start to drive carefully at 25-30km/h 18:45:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24799 /trunk/src/lang (basque.txt croatian.txt) (2012-12-07 18:45:13 UTC) 18:45:22 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:23 <DorpsGek> basque - 134 changes by lutxiketa 18:45:24 <DorpsGek> croatian - 66 changes by VoyagerOne 18:45:51 <Alberth> you'd say they crash into each other then :) 18:45:56 <Wolf01> yeah 18:49:08 *** snorre [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:52:10 <MNIM> Alberth: same here, now 18:52:24 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4057.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:44 <frosch123> http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=5977 <- [german] that topic is continually becoming more weird and awesome :) 19:04:12 <frosch123> "continuously" maybe 19:04:21 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:08:00 <Alberth> very weird 19:08:34 <frosch123> eddi's approach is genius though :) whatever problem there is on win, 32bpp always solves it :p 19:11:10 <Alberth> with modern video cards, you run that risk :p 19:12:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure why i even said that... he didn't believe me the first time either when i said it's the video driver's fault :p 19:13:56 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:19:22 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:21:39 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38:52 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:03:43 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:57 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 20:10:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:15:37 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:19:29 <Alberth> hi andy 20:21:35 <andythenorth> lo 20:21:51 <frosch123> did you find your second horn? 20:22:13 <andythenorth> only the one 20:22:53 <frosch123> hmm, why is it unicorn in english, not unihorn? 20:25:01 <InducTrackerOTTD> Probably inspired by greek 20:25:07 <andythenorth> english is mysterious 20:25:31 <InducTrackerOTTD> More like, inconsistent or alternatively consistently silly 20:27:06 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:43 <Terkhen> in spanish the word is "unicornio", so it probably has a latin or greek origin that english borrowed too 20:33:09 <frosch123> "κÎÏαÏο" "ΌοΜÏκεÏοÏ" - "cornu" "unicórnis" 20:33:10 <InducTrackerOTTD> brief glance at wiki suggests it's drawn from greek 20:33:16 <frosch123> it's consistent in both languages 20:34:36 <frosch123> it's also consistent in german, 20:34:51 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:34:56 <frosch123> so either there is some celtic influence, or the brittish messed it up completely on their own :p 20:35:20 <frosch123> likely the latter, since unicorn is latin, while horn is german 20:37:15 <InducTrackerOTTD> Oh cool, yeah. Looks like it's latin and earlier, rather than greek 20:37:22 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-108-254.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:41:55 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-135-189.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:43:02 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-64-58.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:11 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: but then it would have to be "onehorn", because "unihorn" is a stupid mixture of languages 20:46:25 <Eddi|zuHause> ... like "television" and stuff :) 20:47:55 <frosch123> hmm, true 20:50:15 <andythenorth> it's very important that mythical creatures are correctly named 20:50:33 <frosch123> yeah, they might kill you 20:50:40 <frosch123> if addressed incorrectly 20:50:57 <InducTrackerOTTD> Hmm, new cargo type: unihorns 20:51:19 <frosch123> horse + unihorn -> unicorn ? 20:52:41 <InducTrackerOTTD> o.O 20:52:44 <InducTrackerOTTD> No, rhino! 20:52:58 <frosch123> fat horse + unihorn -> rhino 20:53:28 <InducTrackerOTTD> Also, by unihorn I meant synonym for unicorn 20:53:35 <InducTrackerOTTD> Apparently not so obviously 20:55:26 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: oh, and you were already gone yesterday when i said "i use the 'R' key to remove rails" 20:55:56 <frosch123> also acceptable :) 20:55:59 <InducTrackerOTTD> I wonder if openttd has keybinding configuration 20:56:06 <frosch123> i use 'r' only to remove signals 20:56:10 <Eddi|zuHause> InducTrackerOTTD: yes, hotkeys.cfg 20:56:38 <Eddi|zuHause> InducTrackerOTTD: no GUI for it (yet) 20:56:45 <InducTrackerOTTD> doubt I'd know where to find the commands to bind to keys tho 20:56:48 <andythenorth> hmm, someone has copied HEQS trams http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5688703 20:56:54 <andythenorth> does GPL extend that far? :P 20:57:22 <frosch123> hmm, i never got around to assign a global hotkey for autoroad 20:57:30 <InducTrackerOTTD> Perhaps use creative commons licensing for artwork? 20:57:49 <frosch123> InducTrackerOTTD: no need to know any commands, just edit the file 20:58:01 <frosch123> all things which can get hotkeys are inside that file 20:58:06 <frosch123> you just need to add the key 20:58:07 <andythenorth> creative commons is an evil spawn 20:58:18 <Superuser> what's HEQS? 20:58:25 <InducTrackerOTTD> Ahh, I see 20:58:25 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: maybe reassign 1-4 to the construction types, instead of the first entries of the construction toolbar? 20:59:03 <frosch123> i use 1,2 occasionally 20:59:33 <frosch123> and i am used to open rail with "a", even if i do not want to use autorail :p 20:59:48 <Eddi|zuHause> yes :) 20:59:54 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a really bad habit :) 21:01:27 <frosch123> Y is unused 21:02:41 <frosch123> i wonder whether i should remap d to depot, instead of dynamite 21:02:52 <frosch123> i cannot remember whether i ever use dynamite for anything 21:02:57 <Superuser> capital Y? 21:03:26 <Superuser> please don't be like roguelikes, with different actions bound to uppercase and lowercase letters 21:03:49 <frosch123> there is no y hotkey, there are Y and shift Y 21:04:01 <frosch123> but, good point 21:04:08 <frosch123> i could also use shift+a for autoroad 21:04:44 <Eddi|zuHause> shift is evil 21:05:01 <frosch123> then i can also use shift+d for dynamite 21:05:07 <frosch123> for the rare case it is actually needed 21:05:32 <Eddi|zuHause> oooh... set ctrl+d to x2 zoom in :) 21:06:10 <Eddi|zuHause> actually feature request: scroll wheel only up to normal zoom, ctrl+scroll wheel to zoom in further 21:06:48 <frosch123> there is an adv setting to restrict it completely 21:07:00 <frosch123> ctrl+scrollwheel sounds like featureitis 21:07:54 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i know 21:08:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i usually want to scroll in to normal zoom, but _occasionally_ i want to zoom in further 21:09:11 <Eddi|zuHause> and in that case, i don't want to go to some obscure settings menu first 21:09:31 <Eddi|zuHause> to disable the restriction for zoom in 21:10:01 <Terkhen> ooh, the nightlies are telling me that I am a lazy translator 21:10:18 <frosch123> Terkhen: it triggers so early? :o 21:10:47 <Terkhen> isn't 36 big enough? :P 21:11:01 <frosch123> i thought it was at 90% or so 21:11:37 <Eddi|zuHause> 36 is more like 99% :) 21:12:52 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-93-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:13:48 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-93-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [] 21:20:57 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:22:03 <Eddi|zuHause> damn, i'm not finding a smacky reply for the "NewGRF Request Thread" 21:22:58 <frosch123> that topic was already done after the first reply from andy 21:23:08 <frosch123> the topic was like made for him :) 21:23:21 <Eddi|zuHause> yes i noticed :) 21:24:36 <Eddi|zuHause> that reminds me: [04.12.2012 03:32] <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> and I would also like a unicorn <--- someone should show andy http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/559742_10151156772201139_276014362_n.png :) 21:25:07 <andythenorth> I felt bad for posting that reply 21:25:11 <andythenorth> but not very bad 21:25:41 <Eddi|zuHause> [04.12.2012 03:35] <Eddi|zuHause> the text reads something like this: "we lost this unicorn. if you have seen it, you may be under influence of drugs. visit our drug-help-center." 21:25:43 <frosch123> i wondered whether there are unicorn ponies, i.e uniponies 21:26:28 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: doesn't make sense. "unipony" just means "one pony" 21:27:01 <TrueBrain> owh, that first reply made me laugh really hard .. that is nice :D 21:27:08 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-39-99.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:28:39 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-108-254.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 21:29:01 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-108-254.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 21:30:39 <Eddi|zuHause> these hungarians have weird "trams" :) http://hampage.hu/trams/forum/Budapest_8610+7061_gathering_IrinyiJozsefutca.jpg 21:32:55 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:37 <InducTrackerOTTD> Pretty certanly a service type 22:13:12 *** JamesGo [~james@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:13:20 *** murry1 [~5629bb23@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 22:14:12 <murry1> hi 22:14:39 *** murry1 [~5629bb23@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [] 22:19:57 *** FLHerne_ [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:20:50 * andythenorth -> bed 22:20:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 22:20:56 *** FLHerne_ [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:56 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20:59 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:21:14 * frosch123 ponders adding a TODO2 bookmark list 22:21:24 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:28:33 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:16 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:37:34 <Terkhen> good night 22:49:21 <Wolf01> 'night 22:49:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:59:24 *** Superuser [~superuser@host109-158-152-20.range109-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. 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