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Probably Best Booter Online." 06:09:04 *** WOOHOO [~OOHOOW@46.166.169.69] has left #openttd [] 06:10:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 06:19:14 *** jerry66 [jerry66@185.5.5.196] has joined #openttd 06:19:16 <jerry66> http://www.reddit.com/r/amateurandpornstar/comments/1bqczi/hot_amateur_and_pornstar_gif_pictures_and_movie/ 06:20:30 *** jerry66 [jerry66@185.5.5.196] has quit [] 06:25:31 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:40:49 *** minsikcho [~quassel@61.77.72.220] has joined #openttd 06:41:33 <minsikcho> hi could anyone help me with crash? I'm using Windows 7, and just executing the file (openttd.exe) gives me immediate error 06:42:00 <minsikcho> I haven't experienced this error before a complete format of my device. 06:42:58 <minsikcho> anyone.....? 06:43:19 <Supercheese> Well 06:43:19 *** minsikcho [~quassel@61.77.72.220] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:43:23 <Supercheese> ... 06:43:27 <Supercheese> nevermind then 06:47:36 *** tycoondemon2 [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47:50 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:48:37 *** jerry66 [jerry66@79.126.188.224] has joined #openttd 06:48:39 <jerry66> http://www.reddit.com/r/amateurandpornstar/comments/1bqczi/hot_amateur_and_pornstar_gif_pictures_and_movie/ 06:50:21 *** jerry66 [jerry66@79.126.188.224] has quit [] 06:55:18 <Terkhen> good morning 06:55:39 <Supercheese> this "jerry66" needs an ipban 06:57:08 <__ln__> more like a nickban 06:59:50 <Supercheese> that too 07:12:22 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13:51 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:18:15 <Rubidium_> Supercheese: what would an IP ban accomplish? 07:19:05 <Rubidium_> segment wise I'd need to IP ban 0.0.0.0/0 to cover the last two IP addresses, which kinda defeats the purpose of IRC 07:40:02 <NGC3982> One could trust the fact that he might not be bright enough to use a different host. 07:40:09 <NGC3982> I guess. 07:46:11 <__ln__> He already did. 07:52:40 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 07:53:10 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:53:13 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 07:55:09 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-006-104.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 07:55:22 <Alberth> mornink 07:55:30 <guru3> Just stumbled on my autopause patch for 0.3.6. Man, how time flies. 08:06:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe9d9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:11:17 <Alberth> quak 08:11:23 <frosch123> moin :) 08:18:52 <Supercheese> good night 08:19:01 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 08:32:30 <NGC3982> __ln__: Oh. :( 08:42:35 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:44:21 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@host-78-150-40-193.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 08:45:35 *** joris [~joris@94-227-122-246.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:45:42 <joris> hi everyone 08:45:48 <insulfrog> hi all 08:46:00 *** joris is now known as joris2 08:46:25 <joris2> can anyone help me compiling openttd on the raspberry pi? 08:46:47 <joris2> I'm having an error saying i'm missing lzma 08:47:01 <joris2> thelzma command is available though 08:47:47 <Alberth> it's often called xz 08:47:55 <frosch123> then you likely need the development files of liblzma resp. libxz 08:48:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18FEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:48:41 <joris2> yeah, I have xz 08:48:54 <joris2> haven't checkes for an xz-dev though 08:49:13 <frosch123> might also be called libxz-dev 08:49:40 <joris2> hold on, I'm checking 08:51:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18FEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:51:31 <joris2> first need to wait for my sysupgrade to be done 08:51:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18FEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:52:23 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:55:32 *** joris2 [~joris@94-227-122-246.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 08:55:37 *** joris2 [~joris@94-227-122-246.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:55:59 <joris2> not available for the ARM version 08:56:17 <joris2> ok, I need to go, need to figure this out later 08:56:23 <joris2> thanks for the help already 08:56:28 *** joris2 [~joris@94-227-122-246.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 08:59:17 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:22 *** chester_ [~chester@95-27-195-70.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 09:08:21 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 09:15:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.233.3.31] has joined #openttd 09:15:59 <Wolf01> moin 09:20:13 <Alberth> moin Wolf01 09:27:54 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:45:00 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@torland1-this.is.a.tor.exit.server.torland.is] has joined #openttd 09:53:35 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-5d855752.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:55:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 10:13:09 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 10:25:59 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@host-78-150-40-193.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby] 10:39:09 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 10:45:21 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@9KCAABXKQ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 10:45:25 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 10:58:38 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 11:01:44 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD55F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 11:48:07 *** goodger [~ben@host86-150-31-253.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:48:36 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:59:32 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25148 /trunk/src/script/api (script_base.cpp script_base.hpp) (2013-04-06 11:59:27 UTC) 11:59:33 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5517]: [Script] XXBase::Chance function did not work for large values (>65535) 12:10:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25149 /trunk/src (5 files) (2013-04-06 12:10:16 UTC) 12:10:23 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: replace 'magic' 'has rating' bitcheck by descriptive function 12:20:05 *** joris2 [~joris@94-227-122-246.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:22:55 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:22:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:24:03 *** joris2 [~joris@94-227-122-246.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 12:25:42 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:35:48 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:36:39 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25150 /trunk (7 files in 4 dirs) (2013-04-06 12:36:33 UTC) 12:36:40 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5514]: [Script] The was no way to differentiate between a cargo-station combination with or without rating, so introduce [AI|GS]Station::HasRating and let GetRating return -1 when there is no rating 12:39:11 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:41:45 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 12:42:41 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BB3D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:07:33 *** BlueMagnet [7936369d@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:08:00 <BlueMagnet> Hello? 13:08:11 *** BlueMagnet [7936369d@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [] 13:08:23 <Rubidium_> slow? 13:12:37 <V453000> :D 13:15:11 <V453000> classic 13:15:28 <frosch123> he noticed that he entered a room with 124 people and says "hello?" into the silence 13:15:33 <frosch123> then he blushed and ran away 13:38:50 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@31.99.49.169] has joined #openttd 13:42:13 <andythenorth_> Hi 13:43:43 <V453000> helo! 13:49:28 <andythenorth_> What did I miss? 13:50:23 <V453000> some beer researching, unicorns falling from the sky, pretty much nothing important 13:51:47 <frosch123> i played a firs game 13:51:55 <frosch123> well, started 13:52:25 <frosch123> somehow ports are quite important 13:52:33 <andythenorth_> In basic yes 13:52:45 <frosch123> though once you use them, everything goes gung ho 13:52:54 <frosch123> basic tropic 13:52:56 <andythenorth_> They're a massive shotcut for game design :p 13:53:48 <frosch123> basically i took a bauxite mining with production > 100 13:53:54 <frosch123> moves stuff to port 13:53:59 <frosch123> which goes gung ho with metal 13:54:09 <frosch123> then metal to workshop 13:54:22 <frosch123> now i have masses of all three supplies with like 3 lines :o 13:55:05 <andythenorth_> They make it easy to provide complete chains with limted industry types :p 13:55:16 <andythenorth_> Also easy for players :) 13:55:24 <frosch123> well, 128x256 map, so full is no option :p 13:55:56 <frosch123> i am just wondering that it is quite hard to get double production :p 13:56:02 <frosch123> either it's normal or gung ho :p 13:59:09 <andythenorth_> Interesting :p 14:09:16 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:16:41 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@31.99.49.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:20:22 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 14:28:21 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:05 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:49 *** Krock [~krock@19-20.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 14:44:33 *** Krock [~krock@19-20.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #openttd [] 14:45:51 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@31.99.49.169] has joined #openttd 14:55:37 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@31.99.49.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:56 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:11 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 15:11:25 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 15:23:59 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 15:32:54 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@noiv.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:55 *** Rubidium_ [~Rubidium@noiv.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:19 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 15:43:30 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:46 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 15:50:15 * Zuu likes the new ./depgen.py musa command which can get content type, uniqueid and md5sum from a .tar file. Example: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/BRwgiShNouBH6XGADHak/ 15:51:12 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 15:58:03 <HellTiger> since i have set difficult to hard, i get ai error message, "no suitable ai found to load" can i ignore this or disable this 15:58:06 <HellTiger> or is my game fucked? 15:58:34 <Zuu> You can go to difficulty settings and set AIs to 0 15:58:43 <Zuu> Or you can go to content dowload and dowload some AIs. 16:00:39 <HellTiger> should i? 16:00:45 <HellTiger> i am still pretty new to the game 16:00:51 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:01:06 <Zuu> AIs could learn you new things 16:01:40 <Zuu> You can set their construction speed to slow. 16:14:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:14:56 <andythenorth> frosch123: using any trucks in your game? o_O 16:21:29 <frosch123> i will likely use trams for the farms and ranches 16:21:43 <frosch123> but i did not play so long 16:23:00 *** AcidWeb [~oftc-webi@159-205-117-51.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #openttd 16:23:06 <AcidWeb> Hello 16:23:19 <AcidWeb> I have small question about source code. Maybe somebody can help me. 16:23:54 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:00 <frosch123> i would say, just ask him 16:24:09 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 16:24:10 <frosch123> or her 16:24:19 <frosch123> i guess "somebody" is both genders 16:25:33 <AcidWeb> Im looking for a place to push one NetworkClientSendChat(NETWORK_ACTION_CHAT_CLIENT, DESTTYPE_CLIENT, CLIENT_ID_SERVER to server after client is connected and already in-game. Where I can find a spot to safely add this? 16:27:11 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@pipit.riseup.net] has joined #openttd 16:35:10 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD55F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:41:17 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 16:48:29 <Rubidium> why would you want to send a chat message to the server? (assuming you are the server) 16:49:17 <V453000> nothing beats a friendly chat with bots 16:51:05 <AcidWeb> Rubidium: Server commands. 16:54:36 *** monneke [54c59a93@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:54:52 <monneke> How must i load the wagons please ??? 16:55:38 <monneke> This is a new game for me. How must i load the wagons please ??? 16:56:12 <monneke> Hello ??? 16:58:05 <Rubidium> monneke: wagons will load automatically 16:58:33 <Rubidium> when they are at a station that provides the cargo the wagon takes 16:58:48 <V453000> ???? 16:58:51 <Rubidium> which requires the station to be close enough to the source of the cargo (industry / houses) 16:58:51 <V453000> :D 16:59:32 <monneke> No it wont work ??? Don't load automaticly ??? 17:00:05 <monneke> Station is right next to industry ? 17:00:24 <Rubidium> then show us the savegame so we can look at it 17:00:39 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/TSRh0qL.jpg 17:00:42 <NGC3982> Totally related. 17:00:51 *** AcidWeb [~oftc-webi@159-205-117-51.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:01:09 <monneke> Message is allways to few orders in schedule ??? 17:01:23 *** AcidWeb [~oftc-webi@159-205-117-51.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #openttd 17:02:36 <monneke> How must i show it ??? 17:02:58 <V453000> hint: the more ? you type does not mean you get better answer 17:03:14 <Rubidium> look at the bottom of http://wiki.openttd.org/Tutorial/Buses for the section about orders 17:04:39 <monneke> I will look at it later i have a visitor sorry thanks anyway... 17:04:59 *** monneke [54c59a93@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:06:08 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:07:33 <V453000> you have nerves of platinum Rubidium :D 17:07:55 <Wolf01> I remember the first time with TT Classic, I tried to run 2 trains on a single rail... then I learned from the AI how to build the waiting tracks 17:10:10 <Rubidium> V453000: good luck they aren't nerves of rubidium on a rainy day ;) 17:10:28 <V453000> :P 17:10:40 <NGC3982> Haha 17:10:48 <AcidWeb> So i guess nobody currently alive here know code well enought to answer my question? 17:10:48 <Rubidium> though you might want to look up that reaction if you're not familiar with it 17:11:47 <Rubidium> nobody knows enough of the thing you want to accomplish exactly 17:11:56 <Rubidium> because depending on that the location will change 17:12:11 <Rubidium> ... however... I now have an appointment with the doctor 17:13:26 <frosch123> V453000: is it possible to transport rubidium on wetrails? 17:13:53 <AcidWeb> I need send private chat message to server after successful connection to server. 17:14:20 <V453000> frosch123: you can try 17:14:38 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@19NAABY4Z.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 17:14:47 <Alberth> Wolf01: you as well? I also learned signals from the AI :) 17:15:07 <AcidWeb> I can not describe it easier ;p 17:15:49 <Wolf01> I crashed some trains forcing them out of the depots before noticing those weird little shiny basterds 17:16:01 <Alberth> :) 17:16:31 <Alberth> I wondered for quite some time why the second train would not come out the depot :) 17:19:47 <andythenorth> so what next? 17:19:53 <andythenorth> another MP GS game? o_O 17:20:00 <andythenorth> or design a new GS? 17:22:30 <Alberth> yes 17:24:43 <V453000> best answer 17:27:00 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:27:10 <AcidWeb> :-) 17:28:13 *** Krock [~krock@19-20.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 17:45:26 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25151 /trunk/src/lang (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-04-06 17:45:17 UTC) 17:45:27 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:28 <DorpsGek> faroese - 528 changes by FastNinja 17:45:29 <DorpsGek> italian - 1 changes by lorenzodv 17:45:30 <DorpsGek> spanish - 3 changes by Terkhen 17:46:33 <AcidWeb> OK. I think i found right place 17:46:58 <AcidWeb> I added that to NetworkRecvStatus ClientNetworkGameSocketHandler::SendMapOk() 17:55:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18FEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56:29 <AcidWeb> Anyway - Thank you and good night. 17:56:36 *** AcidWeb [~oftc-webi@159-205-117-51.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:59:29 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:01:53 <Rubidium> pff... AcidWeb couln't wait until I returned from the doctor? 18:10:46 <Snail> I'm wondering... what is the "time since last maintenance" for a newly-bought vehicle? 18:10:49 <Snail> is it always = 0? 18:11:10 <Rubidium> it ought to be 18:11:19 <Rubidium> there's no second hand stuff 18:11:46 <Wolf01> mmmh, it might be an interesting feature 18:12:10 <Snail> I thought so too, but I did some tests, and it doesn't look like that... 18:12:48 <HellTiger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfrsvfcZ8ZE 18:13:51 <Snail> for instance, I set up 2 recoloring schemes, A to be used if the engine's last maintenance is <20, and B to be used otherwise 18:14:41 <Snail> wait I'll do some more tests on my side 18:17:52 <frosch123> hmm, do we already have a regex engine in ottd? :s 18:17:56 <Snail> ok looks like rubidium is correct, I just double-checked 18:19:29 <Snail> another thing :) when can I recolor a vehicle (i.e. change the recoloring callback)? is it just inside of a depot (like when I change a vehicle's length) or can I do it at any time? 18:19:59 <Rubidium> frosch123: only if the regex is ^$ ;) 18:20:32 <Alberth> and all string literals 18:20:55 <frosch123> yeah, if they start with ^ and end with $ :) 18:21:50 <frosch123> strchrnul is a gnu thingie, right? 18:22:04 <frosch123> "strchrnul() first appeared in glibc in version 2.1.1." <- ah, yeah 18:23:10 <frosch123> hmm, there is gnu in my unicorn lasagna 18:27:21 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/fs5520.diff 18:28:59 <frosch123> looks correct 18:29:51 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/blergh.diff <- to save the maintenance stress ;) 18:30:51 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25152 trunk/src/saveload/afterload.cpp (2013-04-06 18:30:45 UTC) 18:30:52 <DorpsGek> -Fix-ish [FS#5520]: remove stray reservation from savegames affected by FS#5510 et al. upon loading 18:31:52 <Alberth> use HasCargoRating <-- use #HasCargoRating 18:36:53 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r25153 /trunk/src (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-04-06 18:36:41 UTC) 18:36:54 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5522] (r24487): [Win32] Don't statically link to SHGetFolderPath as it may not exist. 18:36:57 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r25154 trunk/src/os/windows/win32.cpp (2013-04-06 18:36:45 UTC) 18:36:58 <DorpsGek> -Fix: [Win32] Don't store invalid paths in the search path list. 18:37:01 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r25155 trunk/src/os/windows/win32.cpp (2013-04-06 18:36:49 UTC) 18:37:02 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: [Win32] Improve SHGetFolderPath emulation. 18:39:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:40:14 <andythenorth> herp 18:40:15 <andythenorth> GS ideas 18:40:27 <andythenorth> all based on ~7 years play length 18:40:36 <andythenorth> - connect a certain amount of track? 18:40:48 <andythenorth> - have a certain average vehicle speed? 18:40:53 <andythenorth> - transport all available cargos? 18:41:15 <andythenorth> - ensure every town has food shop (depends on FIRS) 18:42:51 <frosch123> connect a certain amount of track? 18:43:05 <andythenorth> can GS check that? 18:43:07 <frosch123> drag across 2kx2k map and win? or what? 18:43:11 <andythenorth> dunno 18:43:34 <andythenorth> railroad tycoon did it by having high build costs 18:43:43 <frosch123> sorry, none of your ideas make sense :p 18:43:54 * andythenorth is offended mortally 18:43:55 <andythenorth> not 18:44:21 <frosch123> vehicle speeds are vastly different between sets 18:44:58 <frosch123> you can try for something like "ensure all industries of type X have 80% transported" 18:45:06 <frosch123> but firs would break that :p 18:45:29 <frosch123> wrt. 4, i don't like towns :p 18:45:43 <andythenorth> hmm 18:45:57 <andythenorth> build 3 secondary industries, and transport n tonnes from them? o_O 18:46:05 <V453000> have X good transported monthly 18:46:17 <frosch123> andythenorth: sounds like sv 18:46:26 <andythenorth> :) 18:46:35 <frosch123> V453000: short intervals do not work 18:46:44 <frosch123> long trains result in quite varying transportation 18:47:04 <frosch123> unless you set the goal so high that you need 200 trains :) 18:47:06 <frosch123> then it might work 18:47:30 <andythenorth> why don't we play SV more? 18:47:35 <andythenorth> we have been playing NCG mostly 18:47:42 <frosch123> because i prepare most games :p 18:47:56 <V453000> well then yearly 18:48:04 <frosch123> i felt sv was more for singleplayer 18:48:09 <frosch123> but we can try again :) 18:48:18 <andythenorth> I like it for MP 18:48:33 <V453000> what does sv exactly do? 18:49:12 <frosch123> required you to build n industries in town x, produce a amount with each and b amount in total in one quarter 18:49:34 <frosch123> basically it dooms a single town into a track mess 18:50:04 <frosch123> since the script tries to pick a town with not too many tiles associated 18:50:06 <frosch123> :p 18:50:32 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/siliconvalley <- actually, the screenshots say everythnig 18:50:57 <andythenorth> frosch123: make it several towns? 18:51:14 <frosch123> the only thing you should not do though is setting "challenged cargo type" to something other than "secondary" 18:51:56 <frosch123> andythenorth: nope 18:52:37 <frosch123> multiple towns do not add anything 18:52:44 <V453000> hmf 18:52:51 <frosch123> you can just fund multiple companies if you want 18:52:53 *** Dewin [~Daniel@c-76-28-131-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:54:08 *** Biolunar_ [~mahdi@blfd-4db13605.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 18:54:35 <V453000> I cant really think of any goal which could be interesting 18:54:54 <frosch123> build one of each engine type? 18:55:05 <frosch123> and make them have twice the profit as their running cost 18:55:13 <V453000> have 1000 trains turning profit? 18:55:19 <V453000> or 3000 whatever 18:55:35 <frosch123> you do not neet a script for such goal 18:55:43 <andythenorth> still NCG is not boring yet 18:55:59 <frosch123> andythenorth: how about the build one of everything goal? 18:55:59 <andythenorth> but it's a pretty linear challenge 18:56:12 <andythenorth> frosch123: pretty interesting 18:56:13 <frosch123> would totally spoil cloning and copy&paste and friends :p 18:56:17 <andythenorth> one of *every* vehicle? 18:56:24 <frosch123> every available model 18:56:35 <andythenorth> and *all* have to be profitable? :O 18:56:37 <V453000> hf with nuts :D 18:56:45 <andythenorth> have fun with HEQS :) 18:56:52 <frosch123> V453000: can the logic train make profit? 18:57:09 <andythenorth> frosch123: I think it's good 18:57:15 <andythenorth> not sure it can be done in 7 years 18:57:18 <V453000> nope, it cant haul cargo 18:57:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25156 trunk/src/economy.cpp (2013-04-06 18:57:18 UTC) 18:57:25 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5495, FS#5497]: if a vehicle had some cargo, and it would try to unload without actually unloading, the vehicle would just not load any cargo at the station (fonsinchen) 18:57:41 <andythenorth> hmm, how would transfer credits apply? 18:57:42 <V453000> but I believe if you autoreplace it to some other train, it will keep the profit 18:57:52 <frosch123> andythenorth: yes, they would apply 18:57:54 <V453000> autoreplace logic train yearly and it will make money? :D 18:58:03 <frosch123> :p 18:58:18 <frosch123> but yes, i guess the 100% needs to be configurable 18:58:40 <frosch123> also you should not play it in 2500 with engines never expire enabled :p 18:59:24 <V453000> boring that wa 18:59:26 <V453000> y 18:59:37 <frosch123> oh, we could make it a bananas requirement 18:59:42 <V453000> not to mention that nuts doesnt expire regardless of your settings 18:59:59 <frosch123> every set author has to upload a savegame which proofs that every engine has a use 19:01:42 <V453000> I think I know exactly how many sets will remain 19:01:49 <frosch123> andythenorth: you can also do nocargoal for all cargos, and the least transported cargo decides the medal :p 19:02:06 <V453000> that is actually awesome idea frosch123 19:02:17 <andythenorth> could just do competitive NCG 19:02:23 <andythenorth> between n teams 19:02:25 <frosch123> we never did nocargoal for mail btw 19:02:29 <andythenorth> the GS just acts as referee 19:02:49 <frosch123> ottd is no competive game 19:02:56 <frosch123> you need silly area claiming and such 19:03:08 <frosch123> it could only work if you head for different cargos 19:03:17 <frosch123> but then it is most likely imbalanced :p 19:03:32 <frosch123> i got a bug report about sv, that it is imbalanced :s 19:03:36 <V453000> DEATHMATCH 19:03:38 <andythenorth> it's too easy to grief competitive :P 19:03:41 <V453000> ^ 19:04:19 <V453000> what does your 100% station rating do when 2 people service a thing? the second one gets nothing? 19:04:26 <V453000> game implodes? 19:04:49 <frosch123> i think they both get half 19:04:56 <frosch123> third get nothing anyway iirc 19:05:13 <andythenorth> I like the 'use all vehicles' idea 19:05:35 <andythenorth> would be a curve ball if a new vehicle is introduced 1 month before game end :P 19:05:42 <frosch123> andythenorth: i don't think it has any replayablity value 19:05:53 <frosch123> one game per se 19:05:55 <andythenorth> play it until you've one 19:05:58 <V453000> XD 19:06:01 <andythenorth> one / won /s 19:06:08 <V453000> you would have to start in 2100 tbh 19:06:09 <V453000> best 19:06:29 <frosch123> andythenorth: start in 1492, instant win :p 19:06:38 <andythenorth> easy pickings 19:07:07 <V453000> LOL 19:07:07 <frosch123> we should try a ncg with mail 19:07:21 <V453000> mail should be fun 19:07:28 <andythenorth> can GS detect cargo origin - final delivery point? I guess not? 19:07:30 <frosch123> if that works, the all-cargo thingie might work 19:07:32 <V453000> or even pax, doesnt matter, just multiply by 10 19:07:40 <frosch123> andythenorth: sv does something like that 19:07:40 <V453000> pax has a bigger number = more fun! 19:08:03 <andythenorth> I am thinking about coast-to-coast challenges (cross a continent with continuous service) 19:08:08 <V453000> hm yeah local traffic breaks that if you dont check final delivery 19:08:18 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/siliconvalley/repository/entry/main.nut#L117 <- classify cargo into primary, secondary, and indeterminable 19:08:59 <frosch123> V453000: we had pax, pretty boring, it's as if you play with only 2 challenged cargos 19:09:01 <V453000> .nut sounds totally coincidental 19:09:01 <V453000> :D 19:09:09 <frosch123> but i have no experience with mail transport 19:09:17 <frosch123> no idea at all about the transport amounts 19:09:18 <V453000> mail is the same as pax ... 19:09:28 <V453000> point is, you have to be required to take it to another town 19:09:33 <andythenorth> the other idea I have is, instead of having time based, just keep playing until you lose. The GS makes the (annual) cargo goals progressively harder. 19:09:38 <V453000> mail = 1/10 of pax more or less 19:09:39 <andythenorth> tetris :P 19:09:53 <V453000> haha andy :D 19:09:56 <V453000> not a bad idea 19:10:01 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:22 <Alberth> isn't that somewhat like the city nutsing scripts? 19:10:22 <andythenorth> not so good when you want to go to bed at a fixed time :P 19:10:26 <Alberth> *nursing 19:10:36 <andythenorth> probably similar 19:10:39 <frosch123> i think the limited time is the only thing which makes our sunday evening games work :p 19:10:46 <andythenorth> I find city nursing a boring concept 19:11:04 <Alberth> andythenorth: openttd does have a save option, you know ;) 19:11:04 <V453000> time limitation isnt openttd compatible tbh 19:11:11 <andythenorth> hmm 19:11:14 <andythenorth> pax 19:11:15 <V453000> openttd isnt about having 200 apm 19:11:28 <andythenorth> 'provide commuter service to every city' 19:11:30 <frosch123> V453000: that's exactly what sv and ncg try to change 19:11:50 <frosch123> that's the only reason why they are fun: they turn ottd into a different game 19:11:55 <V453000> transport stuff in -time-limit- is always about speed 19:11:55 <Alberth> V453000: apm? 19:12:01 <V453000> Alberth: actions per minute 19:12:07 <V453000> clicks and stuff 19:12:28 <Alberth> ah, indeed I agree fully with you :) 19:12:52 <andythenorth> V453000: I am testing a FIRS savegame bug report - lots of wetrails in use :P 19:12:57 <andythenorth> interesting ;) 19:13:17 <Alberth> all cargo gets wet? :) 19:13:26 <V453000> andythenorth: it is Sylf ... :) 19:13:40 <V453000> besides, everybody seems to be using wetrail right now 19:13:41 <V453000> :d 19:13:55 <V453000> (Sylf is one of openttdcoop members) 19:14:15 <frosch123> you mean everyone on coop and related channels? 19:14:25 <frosch123> or did you see it on a goal server? :p 19:14:40 <V453000> well all servers which use nuts, and coop ofc 19:14:51 <V453000> most czech servers use nuts 19:15:02 <V453000> and our stable server is quite casual too 19:20:45 <andythenorth> can't figure out if there's a FIRS bug :P 19:23:50 *** trandism [~trandism@athedsl-348937.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 19:27:43 <andythenorth> code says no 19:27:48 <andythenorth> but player says yes 19:29:08 <V453000> :D 19:31:20 * andythenorth ponders a truck set 19:31:34 <ToBeFree> what is "wetrail" even 19:32:08 <V453000> rails which are slightly wet see nuts train set 19:32:32 <ToBeFree> sounds strange 19:32:34 <ToBeFree> ^^ 19:33:41 <V453000> maybe 19:34:49 *** Krock [~krock@19-20.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #openttd [] 19:40:33 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:46:51 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:48:46 <V453000> http://www.rouming.cz/roumingShow.php?file=-_Traffic_-______06.04.2013.jpg 19:54:51 <andythenorth> :P 20:14:04 <Wolf01> gah, I think I'll spend this evening too on 9gag and related 20:18:39 * NGC3982 giggles. 20:24:16 <frosch123> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2213/ <- makes sense? 20:26:21 <V453000> why not I guess 20:46:29 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:52:07 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 20:54:34 <andythenorth> less grey http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/get_started.html 20:55:10 <Wolf01> now replace that blue gradient with a nice screenshot 20:56:26 <andythenorth> tried it :( 20:56:29 <andythenorth> looks lame :P 20:56:37 <Wolf01> :( 20:56:46 <andythenorth> problem is, I have to use opengfx 20:57:02 <andythenorth> which I don't like 20:57:06 <andythenorth> silly old copyright :P 20:57:20 <andythenorth> "don't like" is a bit harsh 20:59:47 <V453000> what do you mean by that? where do you have to use it? 21:00:50 <V453000> you mean you cannot post screenshots of ttd graphics? you can afaik 21:01:00 <V453000> that would be seriously stupid if you couldnt even screenshot things 21:01:14 <V453000> not to mention that there are screenshots with that everywhere 21:01:31 <andythenorth> I can't ship GPL docs using TTD original graphics 21:02:07 <V453000> in screenshots? 21:03:15 <andythenorth> I reckon 21:03:54 <frosch123> i think a single industry on the right of the title is enough 21:04:03 <frosch123> it does not need to be a full featured screenshot 21:04:12 <V453000> why couldnt you ship GPL docs when you created the screenshots? you couldnt screenshot anything in that case 21:04:25 <frosch123> just put the cement plant there 21:04:25 <andythenorth> frosch123: I am about to commit something like that 21:07:52 <frosch123> readd the "Industry Replacement set"? 21:07:56 <frosch123> slightly smaller font 21:08:04 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/get_started.html 21:08:08 <andythenorth> something like that ^ ? 21:08:10 <frosch123> "FIRS industry replacement set" 21:08:25 <frosch123> i like the old subtitle "New Industries and Cargos for OpenTTD" better 21:08:39 <frosch123> "FIRS" alone is too short 21:08:55 <frosch123> "Industry Replacement Set" just needs a slightly smaller font, so the image still fits 21:08:55 <V453000> thats nice 21:09:24 <frosch123> and i would use the cement plant instead of alu plant :) 21:14:21 <andythenorth> I was going to randomise them 21:14:26 <andythenorth> some javascript thing 21:14:32 <frosch123> that's also nice :) 21:14:44 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:44 <frosch123> just do not use the "no image" ones :p 21:15:35 <V453000> lol 21:17:28 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 21:21:50 <V453000> andythenorth: can the beautiful pixels be licked? 21:21:57 <andythenorth> not any more 21:22:01 <andythenorth> due to EU regulations 21:22:03 <V453000> :( 21:22:24 <andythenorth> you can try 21:22:34 <andythenorth> I just don't provide any warranty 21:23:18 <V453000> YAY 21:24:15 <andythenorth> there http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/get_started.html 21:24:26 <andythenorth> can't decide if the grid should be kept or not 21:25:42 <frosch123> i guess if you want to randomise it, it's easier to keep :p 21:29:04 <andythenorth> +1 21:29:51 <andythenorth> bed time 21:29:53 <andythenorth> bye 21:29:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:30:53 *** chester_ [~chester@95-27-195-70.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:44:23 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:52:10 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:00:19 *** Dewin [~Daniel@c-76-28-131-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:05:26 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:50 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r25157 /trunk/src (fontcache.cpp table/misc_settings.ini) (2013-04-06 22:06:44 UTC) 22:06:51 <DorpsGek> -Feature: Determine the default font height for vector fonts according to the minimum readable height that the font provides. 22:10:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18FEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:14:36 <frosch123> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_telegraph_code <- this is actually hillarious 22:15:17 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:34 <frosch123> i wonder whether unicode is based on those tables 22:15:35 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@irc.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 22:17:24 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:18:27 <frosch123> night 22:18:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe9d9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24:50 *** tycoondemon2 [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:28:36 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:31:12 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 22:33:31 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:34:44 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 22:40:57 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:42:30 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 22:49:25 <Wolf01> 'night 22:49:35 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:51:53 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:59:55 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-4d04fc27.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:03:09 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 23:03:10 *** tycoondemon2 [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04:54 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:10:43 *** jerry66 [jerry66@79.126.184.7] has joined #openttd 23:10:45 <jerry66> http://www.reddit.com/r/XXXEROSXXX/comments/1bthxk/taylor_rain_anal_slut_of_the_world/ 23:11:16 *** jerry66 [jerry66@79.126.184.7] has quit [autokilled: Please do not spam. 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