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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 14:45:15 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:02:18 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-173-138.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:07:33 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:07 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 15:32:29 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:33:13 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 15:34:45 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 15:35:55 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:57:09 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:35 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-083-190.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 16:05:52 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-092-078-248-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:06:12 <fonsinchen> Hi 16:07:19 <fonsinchen> TrueBrain: I've changed my github repositories. Could you make the compile farm pull from github.com/ulfhermann/openttd instead of github.com/fonsinchen/openttd-cargodist ? 16:07:30 <fonsinchen> Everything else stays the same. 16:13:11 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.193.88.212] has joined #openttd 16:20:33 <heffer> oh guys, i know revenge is sweet. first GCC kills you, then you kill GCC :P http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/tasks/7031/5227031/build.log 16:24:15 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:06 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:25:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19A51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:27:05 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds evil 16:28:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:36:43 <Zuu> TrueBrain: While at it, for some reason http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/versions.txt do not get updated when new cargodist binaries are pushed to the openttdcoop binaries server. Do you have a clue? 16:38:20 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6eee.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:39:20 <TrueBrain> fonsinchen: done (I think) 16:39:22 <TrueBrain> Zuu: none 16:39:30 <TrueBrain> ask planetmaker or someone? 16:39:32 <TrueBrain> I dunno 16:40:40 <Terkhen> hello 16:41:07 <fonsinchen> thanks 16:43:34 <Zuu> TrueBrain: ok 16:44:19 <frosch123> moin :) 16:45:29 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:45:30 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-083-190.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 16:47:05 <Zuu> planetmaker / somone: Is it possible to fix so that http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/versions.txt get updated when new cargodist binaries are pushed onto the openttdcoop binaries server? It looks like the openttdcoop finger get updated for some NewGRFs but not for cargodist since quite some time. :-( 16:48:57 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, something corrupts the task bar when i go to a TTY and back :/ 16:52:44 <fonsinchen> There are all kinds of things in that versions.txt. How is it updated when one of the other entries changes? 16:56:17 <frosch123> in the other cases coop compiles the stuff 16:56:21 <Rubidium> heffer: those fread_chk ones might very well be false positives, e.g. the gfxinit.cpp:330 does reads min(sizeof(buffer), local var) into buffer. I have no clue how that can read too much, which the check seems to imply 16:56:28 <frosch123> which is controlled via magic .coop directories 16:57:03 <frosch123> Rubidium: the script_scanner one is a false positive as well 16:57:37 <frosch123> fread(buffer, 1, (size > sizeof(buffer)) ? sizeof(buffer) : size, f) <- it's not clever enough to notice that size is checked for being smaller than sizeof 16:58:11 <Rubidium> the uninitialized v in vehicle_cmd.cpp seems false positive as well; it can only have succeeded with building when v != NULL 16:59:09 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:59:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:59:39 <frosch123> yeah, even more complex to decide for the compiler :) 17:00:25 <Rubidium> so we should init v to NULL, and then... v might be NULL? 17:01:01 <frosch123> maybe there is an attribute to declare v as initialised :p 17:01:09 <frosch123> or non-null 17:01:19 <Zuu> So either the compile farm need to update a controlfile on #openttdcoop or a PHP parser to get the last cargodist version from http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/releases/ is needed. 17:02:22 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 17:05:05 <V453000> I am no null :'( 17:07:55 <frosch123> now i know why V prefers to play with original rv acceleration 17:10:44 <V453000> I probably explained it in the map crafting pdf, but why ? :D 17:11:19 <frosch123> because it ignores bridge speed limits 17:11:30 <V453000> really? 17:11:42 <frosch123> likely not intentional :p 17:11:48 <frosch123> and also only in the bridge middle 17:11:50 <frosch123> not on the heads 17:12:34 <V453000> https://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/Creating_Maps.PDF page 7 :P 17:13:10 <V453000> in short: realistic acceleration just takes away the last bits which could potentially make a RV game interesting 17:14:02 <frosch123> otoh, in short: original acceleration just takes away the last bits which could potentially make bridges interesting 17:14:07 <frosch123> :p 17:15:41 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: if this is a "book" for "general audiences", you should put more thought into avoiding jargon like "public server", and maybe explain some of the reasonings behind certain things like "enable firstred_twoway_eol" 17:16:11 <V453000> I dont think I declared that this is for general audiences 17:16:33 <Eddi|zuHause> but you put it on the internet. 17:16:55 <V453000> so? :D 17:16:55 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:03 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: luckily newgrf cannot check that setting, so he cannot make nuts disable himself :p 17:17:10 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:17:21 <V453000> I dont see how everything automatically is for the general audiences who dont know basics 17:17:41 <__ln__> you mean: don't 17:18:01 <V453000> no 17:18:02 <V453000> dont 17:18:03 <frosch123> yeah, everyone knows coop are elitist snobs :) 17:18:13 <V453000> duh :) 17:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: i'm just saying, it's a sign that someone did not properly consider different point of views 17:18:26 <V453000> I cant explain everything everywhere frosch123 17:18:50 <V453000> the thing is called Creating maps for and from openttdcoop environment 17:18:58 <V453000> nuff said 17:19:36 <V453000> everything I mention there is easily findable on our wiki 17:20:02 <frosch123> did you explain "what is a wiki" in the preliminaries? 17:20:32 <Eddi|zuHause> you have no chapter how to handle a mouse!! 17:20:48 <V453000> exactly :> 17:21:06 <frosch123> the chapter "how to read a book" is usually the hardest one 17:21:20 <V453000> :D 17:21:43 <frosch123> the approach to first stat with "how to read a chapter" did not work out either 17:21:53 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:23:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know about yours, but my "how to learn reading and writing" book started with "MAMA" and "OMA", and then left out letters like "MAM" "MA" "AMA" etc. 17:24:07 <Eddi|zuHause> of course i was perfectly capable of reading letters at that point anyway, from trying to decipher where the bus goes 17:24:24 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-092-078-248-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:24:29 <frosch123> did you also figure out the meaning of letter orientation? 17:24:40 <Eddi|zuHause> what?? 17:24:44 <frosch123> my nice randomly flips or rotates letters 17:24:51 <frosch123> or the overall text direction 17:25:02 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, i don't really remember 17:25:38 <Eddi|zuHause> there is one very early "letter" that my older brother wrote, where he talks about (model) railway tracks. and the words are totally out of order 17:26:20 <V453000> how to get from a bug with RV acceleration model to elementary school :P 17:26:47 <frosch123> maybe rv are elementary school :p 17:26:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't even get to reading that section you pointed to :) 17:26:58 <frosch123> aircraft are definitely pre-school 17:27:04 <frosch123> note sure where to insert ships 17:29:10 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:29:27 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: and you should probably anti-alias the rotated images... 17:29:30 <V453000> wetrail, simple answer 17:29:51 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:00 <V453000> not sure if MS office has antialiasing :D 17:30:38 <Eddi|zuHause> use a real image processing program first, to "upgrade" the resolution, then the result should be less pixel-y and scale better with zooming 17:31:19 <V453000> cant say I intend to edit it 17:31:24 <Eddi|zuHause> for "printing", use at least 3 pixels for every screen-pixel 17:33:02 <frosch123> printing? 17:33:06 <frosch123> who does printing? 17:38:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't say printing 17:38:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i said "printing" 17:38:39 <Eddi|zuHause> that is like "realism" 17:41:35 <frosch123> good point. when the next time someone on the forums asks about making stuff more realistic, we should suggest him to print a screenshot 17:42:28 <frosch123> also thanks eddi, i was not aware yet that the realistic extra zoom sprites were meant for printing 17:45:49 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25166 /trunk/src/lang (4 files in 2 dirs) (2013-04-08 17:45:39 UTC) 17:45:50 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:51 <DorpsGek> faroese - 923 changes by FastNinja 17:45:52 <DorpsGek> german - 2 changes by planetmaker 17:45:53 <DorpsGek> korean - 2 changes by telk5093 17:45:54 <DorpsGek> norwegian_bokmal - 3 changes by cuthbert 17:56:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.233.3.31] has joined #openttd 17:57:00 <Wolf01> hello 17:59:17 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:00:49 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:03:59 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 18:13:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.182.147] has joined #openttd 18:13:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CC24.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:33 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:53:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:54:11 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:31 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:08:40 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 19:11:54 *** Dr_Tan [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 19:11:54 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:35 <andythenorth> lo 19:15:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:15:54 <frosch123> hi 19:17:33 <frosch123> i always wondered why the bytes of a word are often named "lobyte" and "hibyte", but now i have a theory 19:20:06 *** Dr_Tan [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:43 <andythenorth> ? 19:22:03 <andythenorth> which one got there first? 19:25:04 <V453000> andythenorth: your FIRS docs are LYING about the most key feature of FIRS 19:25:10 <andythenorth> orly 19:25:15 <andythenorth> well fix them ;) 19:25:17 <V453000> yep 19:25:29 <V453000> but I am not sure if I want to tell you what it is :D 19:25:44 <andythenorth> tell someone else then 19:25:47 <andythenorth> or whisper it? 19:25:56 <V453000> thats not as good 19:25:59 <V453000> but 19:26:02 <V453000> alright 19:26:03 <frosch123> V453000: i think battery powered mining equipment is not that wrong 19:26:08 <andythenorth> you committed kittens when I wasn't looking? 19:26:13 *** Dr_Tan [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 19:26:14 <andythenorth> lolmine 19:26:15 <V453000> FIRS does work in toyland :P 19:26:20 <V453000> perfectly 19:26:23 <andythenorth> oh dear 19:26:32 <V453000> but please in hell do not change that :D 19:26:33 <andythenorth> and also, toyland is now being played in my house 19:26:49 <V453000> ho 19:26:53 <andythenorth> although toyland resulted in "I don't like this land, let's try a different land daddy" 19:27:13 <frosch123> andythenorth: nuts 1st gen wagons displays eng supplies as batteries 19:27:19 <frosch123> is that appropiate? :p 19:27:19 <andythenorth> good 19:27:24 <V453000> frosch123: ALL nuts wagons do that :D 19:27:31 <andythenorth> electricity is useful 19:28:00 <V453000> frosch123: would it be better if ES were food? :D 19:28:08 <andythenorth> it could be food 19:28:13 <andythenorth> it could be anything :P 19:28:38 <V453000> I guess :) 19:28:39 <frosch123> not sure. if it would be software engineering supplies, it should be coffee 19:29:02 <frosch123> and pizza maybe 19:29:11 <frosch123> but i guess coffee is way more comon 19:29:23 <frosch123> doesn't affect the keyboard so much 19:29:38 <V453000> you are delivering it to a mine, there is no software engineering ... 19:30:29 <frosch123> oh, i also know people who develop software for mining 19:30:40 <frosch123> (no, not minecraft) 19:30:43 <andythenorth> how else do the electric trucks move around? 19:31:30 <Zuu> and how else would remote controlled mining trucks work? 19:31:53 *** chester_ [~chester@95-24-140-97.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:32:14 <frosch123> remote controlled? 19:32:27 <frosch123> i doubt wireless works so well in that case for mining 19:32:43 <frosch123> so, i would think remote controlled ones are not battery powered, but rather have a cable 19:33:46 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-083-190.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:35:15 <Zuu> I guess its still not widely implemented, but from what I've read there is a development towards bringing miners up to the surface and remotely control the trucks from an office building. 19:36:02 <frosch123> well, should be fine once you are at the surface :) 19:39:38 <Zuu> According to this page LKAB have both a radio system and wifi in their mine in Kiruna: http://www.lkab.com/om-oss/Historia/Innovationer/Tradlos-kommunikation/ 19:39:43 <andythenorth> http://www.komatsu.com/ce/currenttopics/v09212/ 19:39:56 <andythenorth> there are some autonomous mining systems that have been running for years 19:40:06 <andythenorth> even underground 19:40:17 <frosch123> Zuu: well, at the surface? or 1000m below? 19:40:31 <Zuu> frosch123: That is for underground. 19:41:22 <Zuu> Its used for communication among staff as well as communication between machines in the mine. (according to that link) 19:41:57 <frosch123> and the transmission works through 1000m or earth and metal? or is it only used for local transmitting within the mine? 19:42:48 <andythenorth> underground could probably use multiple transponders? 19:43:15 <Zuu> I guess they might have a fibre cable in a shaft or so for backbone and then wifi transponders/units for coverage. 19:43:34 <frosch123> yeah, that sounds more reasonable :) 19:44:18 <Zuu> According to their page about autonomus production, they have moved down the control center from surfarce down to underground now. I guess it still saves time if something goes wrong and someone need to go and check out something or so. 19:47:11 <frosch123> or they safe the transmission cables 19:47:52 <frosch123> drilling heads have quite a data bandwidth as i have heard 19:48:51 <frosch123> hmm, though it should not reach fibre capacity 19:55:30 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25167 /trunk/src (roadveh_cmd.cpp train_cmd.cpp) (2013-04-08 19:55:24 UTC) 19:55:31 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5523] (r24832): Original train and rv acceleration did no longer respect bridge speed limits. 19:57:27 <frosch123> hmm, 2 revisions too alte 19:57:55 <Zuu> What is special about 24831? 19:58:28 <Zuu> 25165* 19:58:38 <frosch123> 333 revisions since broken 20:00:51 <Zuu> oh :-) 20:01:12 <Eddi|zuHause> you're lucky, otherwise you should have paid for the round of drináž±s necessary 20:01:32 <frosch123> ok, i make a second cup of coffee 20:03:01 <Eddi|zuHause> it's called "Schnapszahl" for a reason :) 20:03:59 <frosch123> there was only once a "schnapsprobe" at my company instead of the usual birthday cake 20:04:40 *** chester_ [~chester@95-24-140-97.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:19:26 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:22:24 <andythenorth> V453000: fixed it :P http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3584/docs/html/get_started.html 20:23:27 <V453000> :D NO IT ISNT 20:25:01 <V453000> :( 20:26:29 <frosch123> andythenorth: toyland is a bad idea except for people who live in institutions who number their inhabitants 20:27:07 *** frosch123 is now known as f123000 20:28:02 <V453000> LOL :D 20:28:23 <V453000> good one frosch ONE TWO THREE 20:28:35 <V453000> :D 20:28:52 <andythenorth> part of me really wants to like toyland 20:28:59 <f123000> some germans have a hard time with v and f when writing :p 20:29:03 <andythenorth> but it's a bad idea, terribly executed :P 20:29:11 <V453000> hm :) 20:29:54 <andythenorth> space would be a better 3rd climate 20:30:03 <f123000> 4th? 20:30:06 <V453000> FUCK :DDD 20:30:09 <V453000> FIRS works with MARS 20:30:10 <andythenorth> oops 20:30:10 <V453000> :DDDD 20:30:12 <V453000> :DDD 20:30:12 * andythenorth can't count 20:30:13 <V453000> excellent 20:30:28 <V453000> I know what my next game is 20:30:58 <V453000> esp fishing grounds in lava are unmatched in awesome 20:31:32 <andythenorth> pre-cooked 20:32:10 <V453000> oh it doesnt work :s 20:32:11 <V453000> :( 20:32:13 * V453000 is sad 20:32:43 <f123000> what fails? sprites or cargos? 20:33:25 <V453000> cargoes 20:33:56 <f123000> so, mars climate needs a switch to disable the industry/cargo stuff 20:34:20 <V453000> Y 20:34:24 <Rubidium> s/switch/knob/ 20:35:00 <V453000> what is a knob? :o 20:35:14 <V453000> found it as the thing on the door by which you open it but how does it fit here? :o 20:35:46 <Rubidium> V453000: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=41630 20:36:26 <f123000> V453000: actually, it is firs which fails 20:36:34 <f123000> andythenorth: firs does not work in toyland 20:36:43 <V453000> :( 20:36:47 <V453000> wait what 20:37:07 <V453000> ohh WTF :( some older version did 20:37:33 <andythenorth> wat? 20:37:43 <andythenorth> bad non-bug reports from V453000? :P 20:37:48 <f123000> Rubidium: do you have that bookmarked? :p 20:38:07 <Rubidium> frosch123: no;) 20:38:09 <V453000> IT STILL SHOWS TASTY PIXELS in toyland. 20:38:13 <V453000> this works 20:38:17 <V453000> though :( 20:39:24 <Terkhen> good night 20:39:46 <V453000> bai 20:40:00 <V453000> andythenorth: why isnt it working? :( 20:40:10 <andythenorth> dunno 20:40:13 <andythenorth> what happens? 20:40:49 <V453000> industries are there but when you click on them they do not write about producing cargo at all 20:40:52 <V453000> nor accepting 20:41:01 <V453000> didnt test if they actually produce it but I guess they dont 20:42:43 <V453000> actually 20:42:52 <V453000> it seems to disable all NUTS vehicles too :DDD 20:42:54 <V453000> somehow 20:43:11 <f123000> what? you never test-played nuts in toyland? 20:43:30 <Wolf01> 'night 20:43:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:45:38 <V453000> ....... I play NUTS all the time in toyland 20:45:52 <V453000> but when I use NUTS with FIRS in toyland, there are no available vehicles 20:46:07 <f123000> ah, right, if there are no cargos, all vehicle carrying cargos are disabled 20:46:27 <V453000> no, even the ones which dont carry cargo 20:46:40 <f123000> really? 20:46:46 <f123000> that sounds weird 20:46:46 <V453000> yeah :o 20:46:47 <V453000> try 20:46:55 <V453000> FIRS 1.0.0 and NUTS 0.4.8 20:47:04 <V453000> well I have 0.4.9 but that shouldnt make a difference 20:48:13 <f123000> hmm, apparently firs even kills pax and mail 20:48:32 <f123000> but engines should be avaialble even if pax is not available 20:48:33 <V453000> yeah 20:48:47 <V453000> real wtf :( 20:49:11 <f123000> or do all engines have cargo subtypes? :p 20:49:20 <V453000> no 20:49:39 <V453000> all of the cargo engines except chameleon do not load any cargo 20:51:28 <oskari89> Someone should do futuristic cargo set for Mars conversion of toyland 20:52:09 <f123000> V453000: do you think in the future there would be no beer? 20:52:39 <V453000> there are the martian industries 20:52:40 <f123000> oskari89: you should change your nick to o890000 20:52:43 <V453000> or well, were planned to be 20:52:44 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Commit by rubidium :: r25168 /branches/1.3 (10 files in 4 dirs) (2013-04-08 20:52:32 UTC) 20:52:45 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: [1.3] -Backport from trunk: 20:52:46 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: [NewGRF] Acceleration of NewGRF aircraft was too fast, while acceleration of default aircraft was way too slow (r25115) 20:52:47 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: Pass $LDFLAGS_BUILD to all endian_check compilations (r25108) 20:52:48 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Change: [Win32] MSVC 2010 comes with stdint.h (r25128) 20:52:49 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: (...) 20:53:24 <f123000> oh, dorpsgek has tuberculosis again 20:56:39 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Commit by rubidium :: r25169 /branches/1.3 (9 files in 5 dirs) (2013-04-08 20:56:30 UTC) 20:56:40 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: [1.3] -Backport from trunk: 20:56:41 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: Several typos/inconsistencies in English strings [FS#5496] (r25144, r25143) 20:56:42 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: When extra dynamite was disabled, towns would be allowed to clear bridges with trams (r25141) 20:56:43 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: Towns are build as OWNER_TOWN, so they also need to be removed as OWNER_TOWN otherwise parts might remain [FS#5519] (r25140) 20:56:44 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: (...) 20:57:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:52 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Commit by rubidium :: r25170 /branches/1.3 (9 files in 5 dirs) (2013-04-08 20:59:42 UTC) 20:59:53 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: [1.3] -Backport from trunk: 20:59:54 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: Original train and rv acceleration did no longer respect bridge speed limits [FS#5523] (r25167) 20:59:55 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: [Win32] Do not statically link to SHGetFolderPath as it may not exist, and improve its emulation [FS#5522] (r25155, r25153) 20:59:56 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: [Win32] Do not store invalid paths in the search path list (r25154) 20:59:57 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: (...) 21:00:09 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-250-57.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: On the rocks! ^^] 21:00:57 <f123000> btw. if someone wants to highlight TrueBrain, now is the best chance that he might not notice :) 21:03:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19A51.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:32 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:09:46 <TrueBrain> I was so tempted to kick, but I controlled myself :P 21:10:14 <f123000> :) 21:11:03 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.250.57] has joined #openttd 21:12:12 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 21:15:37 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 21:18:06 <andythenorth> bed 21:18:09 <andythenorth> bye 21:18:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:27:50 *** pib1995 [~pib1995@your.friendly.media.team.coder.ark-cr.info] has joined #openttd 21:31:11 <f123000> night 21:31:16 *** f123000 [~frosch@frnk-590f6eee.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:03 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:57:05 <MNIM> TrueBrain. 21:57:14 <MNIM> why aren't we allowed to highlight you? 21:57:18 * MNIM ducks 21:58:38 <TrueBrain> @whoami 21:58:38 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: TrueBrain 21:58:46 <TrueBrain> @kick MNIM begging for it, sry :) 21:58:46 *** MNIM was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [begging for it, sry :)] 21:58:46 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:59:12 <MNIM> well, while you are right, that's not really a reason >.> 21:59:31 <TrueBrain> that is the best part: I dont need one! 21:59:37 <MNIM> tsssssk 21:59:50 <MNIM> so you're just the usual abusive dictator op? 22:00:25 <TrueBrain> I am the usual fuck with me and I win op :p 22:00:31 <V453000> ^ 22:00:59 <TrueBrain> but I do favor some more than others, so I am heavily biased 22:01:03 <TrueBrain> the world is so unfair! 22:01:07 <V453000> if your used some part of your body to think you could see that DorpsGek highlighted him before frosch said it 22:01:17 <V453000> meaning it was "stealthy" action as he would not notice it 22:01:18 <V453000> tada 22:01:22 * MNIM nods 22:01:36 <MNIM> but why the duck would I do that? There's little fun in that 22:01:48 <TrueBrain> no fun no tears! 22:02:07 <V453000> no tears no fun 22:02:33 <TrueBrain> no woman no cry! 22:03:02 <V453000> cant spell slaugter without laughter! 22:03:09 <TrueBrain> LOLZ 22:03:10 <TrueBrain> that is bad :P 22:03:27 <V453000> NO, that is one of my favourites 22:04:24 <Eddi|zuHause> that works better if you can actually spell :p 22:04:30 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 22:04:51 <TrueBrain> nazi 22:04:56 <TrueBrain> okay, that wasnt nice 22:05:04 <TrueBrain> @kick TrueBrain THAT IS NOT A NICE THING TO SAY! 22:05:04 *** TrueBrain was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [THAT IS NOT A NICE THING TO SAY!] 22:05:17 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 22:05:24 <TrueBrain> I didnt mean it Eddi, I am sorry :( 22:05:27 <glx> oh no autojoin 22:05:28 <V453000> twas 22:05:42 <TrueBrain> I _hate_ autojoins 22:05:49 <TrueBrain> it makes kicks mute, and forces ops to use bans 22:08:55 <V453000> moo 22:09:01 <TrueBrain> cow 22:10:14 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:10:16 <V453000> terrible, one cant even moo freely without being accused of being a cow 22:10:24 <TrueBrain> mehhhhh 22:10:32 <V453000> mooh 22:11:10 *** Tulitomaatti [tt@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c15b-226.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:11:31 <MNIM> TrueBrain: mode +j 10 22:11:31 <TrueBrain> I love how this channel just got downgraded to a zoo 22:11:34 <MNIM> problem solved 22:11:44 <TrueBrain> @mdoe +j 10 22:11:46 <TrueBrain> @mode +j 10 22:11:54 <TrueBrain> hmm .. silly DorpsGek 22:11:55 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:58 <V453000> YES ZOO 22:12:05 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 22:12:14 <TrueBrain> lolz, molv joins, reads that, leaves 22:12:16 <TrueBrain> good job :D 22:12:17 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:12:38 <V453000> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/animalz.png https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/animalz2.png 22:12:40 <V453000> <3 22:12:41 <MNIM> oh right 22:12:43 <TrueBrain> welcome to our zoo; how can we be of any assisantance? 22:12:53 <MNIM> /mode +J, capital letter 22:13:12 <V453000> +j means zoo? 22:13:38 <TrueBrain> +j or +J is not documented as OFTC channel mode :( 22:13:44 <MNIM> ah. 22:13:46 <MNIM> laaaame 22:13:50 <V453000> zoo then \o/ 22:13:56 <TrueBrain> that is not an animal! 22:13:58 <TrueBrain> pfffft 22:14:20 <MNIM> anyway, on other servers +J xxx prevents rejoining after a kick within xxx secs 22:14:44 <V453000> yeah, pretty much like in a zoo 22:14:58 <MNIM> but yeah, it's 0.14AM over here 22:15:00 <V453000> you cant really go back to a zoo after being kicked out instantly either 22:15:23 <MNIM> this flying dutchman should go the -peep- to sleep. 22:15:28 <TrueBrain> why work with AM/PM? 22:15:30 <TrueBrain> you are not supposed to! 22:15:32 <TrueBrain> IT IS BROKEN! 22:15:45 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:15:50 <MNIM> I know 22:16:00 <MNIM> but people get confused when I use military time 22:16:02 <MNIM> >.> 22:16:11 <TrueBrain> pfff 22:16:15 <TrueBrain> its 0016 now 22:16:18 <TrueBrain> and if you dont know what time that is 22:16:20 <TrueBrain> GO TO BED 22:16:21 <TrueBrain> :P 22:16:23 <MNIM> yeah 22:16:24 <V453000> :D 22:16:26 <MNIM> I should. 22:16:28 <V453000> agreed 22:16:29 <V453000> moo 22:16:32 <TrueBrain> on that note: night guys 22:16:34 <TrueBrain> mehhhhh 22:16:40 *** MNIM is now known as MNIM-zZz 22:16:41 <V453000> bai animals 22:16:51 <Tulitomaatti> what would be the problem when a train insist on waiting for a free path when there should be a free path ahead, but the trains suddenly turns around 22:16:57 <Tulitomaatti> or just keeps turning around every second or so 22:17:55 <V453000> settings 22:18:03 <V453000> there is some settings which prevents trains from turning around 22:18:08 <V453000> likely under vehicles -trains I suppose 22:20:13 <Tulitomaatti> ha, i had resumed a game where i had been building electric rails 22:20:31 <Tulitomaatti> after resuming i forgot to switch back to electric rail, and naturally the trains refused to go on the newly laid track. 22:20:50 <Tulitomaatti> though now that i upgraded the track under the trains they decided to crash . 22:54:26 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-4d04e067.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:01:28 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-5d856a94.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:03:06 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:43:06 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-083-190.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:43:32 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:50:32 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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