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00:03:22 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:09:43 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:33:24 *** pugi [~pugi@5b60332a.test.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [] 00:35:58 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 00:36:22 *** anchorspark [~anchorspa@478d684a.test.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:37:12 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r25200 trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp (2013-04-24 00:37:06 UTC) 00:37:13 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r24846): The level crossing sound is an ambient sound and not a new year sound. 00:56:07 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:09:45 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 01:14:24 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:16 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 01:25:25 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@00017153.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:55:44 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:31:24 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:35:44 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@101.174.10.99] has joined #openttd 02:36:42 <JdGordon|> hey, would there be any interest in making the towns which need food+water to grow require a certain amount or each? 02:39:51 <JdGordon|> I'm thinking 10% of the population, so 10000L and 10T of food for every 100 people, makes small towns easy to keep grown but big cities potentially more interesting 02:41:03 <Eddi|zuHause> there are already game scripts which do that 02:41:36 <Eddi|zuHause> try for example "neighbours are important" script 02:41:59 <JdGordon|> oh? 02:44:20 *** Biolunar_ [~mahdi@blfd-4db0e72b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 02:45:51 <JdGordon|> ok, thanks 02:51:27 *** Biolunar 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[~BillyMays@50.107.54.92] has joined #openttd 07:44:38 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 07:49:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:50:06 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@93.114.43.156] has joined #openttd 07:52:06 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@9YYAACGNE.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20:40 <planetmaker> moin 08:33:42 <peter1139> bah, why doesn't the corsair k60 come in mx blue :S 08:56:15 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:24:52 *** Biolunar_ [~mahdi@blfd-4db0e72b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 09:28:31 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:35:29 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:42:05 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@82VAABUTI.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:42:28 *** Flygon [~Flygon@dad61293.test.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:49:50 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:15:48 <NGC3982> Seriosly, i have this Aspire Revo HTPC 10:15:55 <NGC3982> With a atom330 CPU. 10:16:09 <NGC3982> The ION chip plays 1080p video like the machine was crafted at CERN 10:16:57 <NGC3982> But using the web browser on Flash or HTML5 (Facebook or Youtube, basicly) turns it into a freeze-frame calculator 10:17:03 <NGC3982> And i have no idea how to fix it. :( 10:17:30 <Eddi|zuHause> disable flash, and javascript, and... 10:18:01 <NGC3982> And then? It does not seem like i can force my browser to play videos and pictures with the graphics card. 10:19:54 <Eddi|zuHause> that depends what program the html5 video is being piped into 10:20:40 <NGC3982> I see. 10:20:55 <NGC3982> Is that explicitly to HTML5? 10:29:19 <peter1139> chrome will use the gpu i think 10:29:39 <peter1139> if not then tough, get a proper pc 10:29:48 <peter1139> or a proper player :D 10:31:39 <NGC3982> Well, i already know it's slow, i'm just trying to find out if the computer is actually that bad, or just broken. 10:32:05 <NGC3982> I could use the web faster with an old Pentium II, and that makes me feel the Atom330 should be able to, too. 10:39:12 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 10:42:07 <Pinkbeast> When you were using that Pentium II, Web browsers weren't so bloated... 10:45:00 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.141.151] has joined #openttd 10:46:12 <NGC3982> I tried Chromium, and that helped a fair bit. 10:48:14 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 10:49:37 <Pinkbeast> On my old (2001 vintage) lappie I found Chrome was initially faster then choked horribly, but I think that's a memory footprint issue 11:06:10 <planetmaker> when there was the time of pentium II, there were no browser-based OS either ;-) 11:31:04 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:36:55 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:38:42 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:40:23 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, basically browsers today are full-fleged virtual machines 11:40:53 <Eddi|zuHause> now try a virtualised OS on your pentium II for comparison :) 11:46:54 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 11:50:40 <Tvel> Use SMplayer or VLC to play youtube urls. That solved the problem on my laptop. 11:50:44 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51:11 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 11:54:16 <planetmaker> luckily there was no link and I read twice. VLC, youtube are words often used by spammers promoting a dubious URL :-P 11:57:07 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.141.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:14:42 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.110.110] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:21:15 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 12:51:11 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@82VAABUTI.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 13:01:34 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:05:53 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:07:18 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:14:03 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:59 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:28:51 <oskari89> @seen Pikka 13:28:51 <DorpsGek> oskari89: Pikka was last seen in #openttd 4 weeks, 6 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Pikka> I do not want to watch a half-hour video for the one little piece of information I need and which probably isn't in there anyway 13:29:03 <oskari89> :P 13:29:27 <oskari89> He could update his PBI to here: http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/CargoTypes#Cargo_Labels 13:32:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A0BB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:38:55 <oskari89> Is plant fibers on FIRS same cargo id (FICR) as Fibre Crops? 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18:02:51 <Rubidium> no, it's realistic-ish 18:03:02 <oskari89> Nope, that isn't :P 18:03:20 <oskari89> Idle sound should play on both cases 18:03:50 <oskari89> Running sound shouldn't play when waiting at block signal 18:03:53 <Rubidium> if there were a junction where everyone gets a green light and only one person may pass before it gets red again, would you keep reving your engine to get away as fast as possible, i.e. first? 18:04:08 <oskari89> No, i won't :P 18:04:18 <Rubidium> you wouldn't need to do that when you know that once you get green, it won't turn red again until you passed 18:04:36 <Rubidium> ergo, the train running sound on block signals is "realistic" 18:04:50 <oskari89> Or someone should make that a switch so one can choose :P 18:04:51 <Rubidium> and since you're waiting for a red light you're "idling" as well ;) 18:04:58 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:05:05 <oskari89> No that isn't 18:05:21 <oskari89> It sounds awful for electric locomotives 18:05:33 <oskari89> Like they are just burn-outing :P 18:05:38 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-37-110.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:08:38 <oskari89> I'll guess i'll report it to flyspray 18:12:55 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:12:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:17:53 <Alberth> o/ 18:20:38 <oskari89> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5534?project=1&opened=2330 18:20:46 <oskari89> Someone should do something at that 18:21:01 <Eddi|zuHause> @seen someone 18:21:01 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: someone was last seen in #openttd 2 years, 27 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 40 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <Someone> indeed 18:21:15 <oskari89> :P 18:21:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i guess he's gone for a while 18:21:37 <oskari89> Anybody else is not seen at this channel? :P 18:21:51 <Eddi|zuHause> @seen anybody_else 18:21:51 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: I have not seen anybody_else. 18:22:43 <oskari89> Someone indeed has good sense of humour 18:23:29 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-37-110.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:24:01 <oskari89> That running sound thingy is rather irritating 18:24:09 <oskari89> Especially when one has deadlock 18:25:14 <oskari89> Running sound plays, one doesn't even hear that trains are stopped 18:25:51 <oskari89> That is silly 18:33:42 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the easiest thing is probably to mark train waiting at red block signal also as "waiting for path" 18:34:06 <Eddi|zuHause> which has the side effect that the disadvantage of path signals that V453000 always complains about disappears :p 18:36:28 <oskari89> Yes, that should be done 18:36:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A0B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:37:02 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:39 <oskari89> PBS signals consume more resources if used on line as block signals 18:40:27 <oskari89> If you have a lot of lines 18:51:28 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-060-164.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:54:11 <Eddi|zuHause> did you test that? or is that some unfounded assumption? 18:56:00 <Alberth> someone said it at the Internet ? 18:56:14 <Kjetil> Then it must be true! 18:57:12 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:40 <oskari89> Eddi|<uhause 18:58:44 <oskari89> *zuhause 18:59:16 <oskari89> I have a large 2048x2048 game, it slows down more when pbs used instead of blocks 18:59:37 <oskari89> Might be that pathfinding thingy 19:01:04 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:58 *** welshdragon_ [~heswelsh@2a01:4f8:160:3241:1:0:7fa7:e1c3] has joined #openttd 19:28:11 *** __ln___ [~lauri@dyn-xdsl-83-150-116-30.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 19:28:27 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> graviton.oftc.net quits: Born_Acorn, __ln__, welshdragon 19:34:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.169.217] has joined #openttd 19:35:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:36:13 *** Netsplit over, joins: Born_Acorn 19:40:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A0BB.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:47 <oskari89> Clone multiple vehicles/trains at a time could be useful feature 20:14:36 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20:14:46 <Rubidium> and then clicking 20 times to get the right amount of vehicles in the ticker, and still waste one extra click... and more moving of the mouse 20:15:27 <Eddi|zuHause> just use the clone button from the vehicle window, instead of the depot window 20:19:03 <oskari89> Done that already 20:19:26 <oskari89> If you have 100 vehicles to clone, that takes more clicks :P 20:19:31 <Alberth> you have too many trains 20:19:36 <Alberth> or too long tracks 20:20:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:22:18 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-94-234.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:22:32 <Eddi|zuHause> or too simple networks 20:23:05 <Eddi|zuHause> the most i ever cloned was around 20 trams 20:23:58 <Eddi|zuHause> and that only because i had no passenger reduction patch applied 20:28:17 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:08 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25205 /trunk (53 files in 4 dirs) (2013-04-24 20:30:02 UTC) 20:30:09 <DorpsGek> -Feature: Translations of baseset descriptions via lang files. 20:31:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.169.217] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.169.217] has joined #openttd 20:36:47 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:44:10 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 20:47:46 <NGC3982> My Youtube problems have been resolved. 20:47:57 <__ln___> in an academic bibliography, in case of books published in the US, should the state be mentioned together with the city name? 20:48:40 <NGC3982> Chromium was apparently the only browser that supported hardware acceleration with ny Nvidia ION card, on Flash or HTML5. 20:49:39 <frosch123> if you using a recent flash plugin on linux firefox with nvidia drivers, you have to disable hardware acceleration of the flush plugin 20:50:08 <frosch123> (if that was your problem) 20:50:41 <frosch123> (that is, videos being kind of blue) 20:52:50 <NGC3982> I see. 20:52:56 <frosch123> __ln___: my math books only mention the city name of the printer 20:54:03 <frosch123> no country or state 20:54:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A0B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:56 <frosch123> so, it's actually not a unique identifier at all :p 20:56:05 <__ln___> besides, usually several cities are mentioned, and it's impossible to know (without an external source) what's the right one. 20:56:50 <frosch123> well, it's only used to identify the printing company 20:57:13 <frosch123> but today you visit the homepage of the author anyway instead 20:58:36 <NGC3982> While im at it, i guess OpenTTD does not support running from a GPU, without black magic involed? 20:58:41 <NGC3982> involved* 20:58:44 <__ln___> it's bizarre that the city name is so important yet so hard to find out. fortunately library of congress has that info. 20:58:58 <Rubidium> a GPU is a worthless CPU 20:59:11 <Rubidium> likewise a CPU is a worthless GPU 20:59:27 <NGC3982> ..Yeah? 21:00:05 <NGC3982> Well, while you complete that haiku, i was thinking about if using the CPU+GPU would improve my gameplay. 21:00:22 <NGC3982> Since the CPU alone is rather dull, in this machine. 21:00:38 <Kjetil> CPUs are rather dull these days 21:00:45 <Rubidium> GPU does many floating point-ish things, or video decoding 21:00:55 <Rubidium> which is exactly what OpenTTD doesn't use 21:01:11 <NGC3982> I see. It would not improve anything then, i guess. 21:01:27 <NGC3982> Jesus, the Atom CPU's are worthless. 21:01:59 <Rubidium> now... for fun... 21:02:33 <Rubidium> if you have a decently old enough GPU, that might be able to do palette animation and if you use 8bpp full screen with full animation you can offload some stuff to the GPU 21:02:40 <Rubidium> besides that not much can be done 21:03:20 <NGC3982> I see. 21:03:22 <Rubidium> I also can't remember any OpenGL blitters that were faster than just the blitters we have now 21:04:29 <Rubidium> furthermore the drawing isn't "simple" ray tracing like drawing because of some... uhm... visual hacks such as tunnels and bridges 21:05:25 <NGC3982> Ok 21:05:57 <Rubidium> e.g. train is 8 pixels high, so is one heighlevel. This means that top of road/rail on a bridge is 8 pixels above the bottom of the train. Now in those 8 pixels, that contain 8 pixels of train you also need to draw the catenary and the bridge itself 21:06:39 <frosch123> catenary is at height 10 :p 21:06:53 <NGC3982> Oh 21:06:54 <Rubidium> so for proper ordering you need at least 3 extra pixels in height 21:07:53 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07:53 <Rubidium> likewise for the tunnel entrance; that is below the top of the tile, especially in bktunnels, but still the 8 pixel train fits in a less than 8 pixel hole 21:08:00 <Rubidium> + catenary 21:08:34 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:08:42 <Alberth> just using a little magic like the buses of harry potter :p 21:08:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A0B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:09:31 <Rubidium> but I reckon the raytracing and other real world looking rendering features of your GPU are not able to handle that 21:09:55 <frosch123> yeah, why use space on the outside, if you need it on the inside :) 21:11:23 <Rubidium> but hey, this is one of the problems that can easily be solved in the same way as the multicore issue 21:11:33 *** chester_ [~chester@128-69-96-221.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:12:05 <Rubidium> ditch the basic principles of OpenTTD/Transport Tycoon and rewrite the game and it's game play so you can do it right (tm) 21:13:14 <Rubidium> what's also annoying are these bio computers with two cores that need both cores mostly shut off for a while every day 21:13:34 <Rubidium> it'd be way more efficient if one could just shut off one of the two cores 21:13:51 <Rubidium> and continue with the other one 21:14:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i believe some animals are doing that 21:14:24 <Eddi|zuHause> like pelicans 21:14:50 <Eddi|zuHause> which is why they stand on one leg 21:16:38 <frosch123> i think that is a general bird thingie 21:19:43 <frosch123> night 21:19:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe594.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:17 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 21:34:45 <NGC3982> Bah, no new version of OpenTTD in the Ubuntu Software Center? 21:35:15 <NGC3982> Rubidium: For my part, i think i have to settle with using better hardware. 21:38:48 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:39:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A0B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:00 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@83TAAAT52.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 22:18:33 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:20:43 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:21:25 *** chester_ [~chester@128-69-96-221.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:27:56 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:31:25 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:21:38 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-060-164.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:36:33 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:53:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]