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09:11:38  <peter1138> bah, vpnc still doesn't support client certificates :(
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09:40:08  <norbert79> Morning... Question: is there a way to get connected to the server I am running using the command line only through ssh?
09:41:41  <lugo-> yep
09:42:03  <lugo-> ./openttd -n IP[:port][#CompanyID]
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09:43:38  <lugo> oh that command only starts a multiplayer game but doesn't connect to one, let me check again#
09:44:20  <norbert79> I just wish to get inside the game through regular console so I can create a screenshot of the current game running
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09:48:05  <lugo> i think you'd need adminport for that: http://svn.openttd.org/trunk/docs/admin_network.txt
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09:51:50  <norbert79> Ehm, I just was thinking of something more simple... I wish to just get inside the console of the game
09:51:59  <norbert79> as main admin
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10:46:03  <norbert79> thanks although
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11:13:42  <Eddi|zuHause> he could just use screen or something
11:20:34  <planetmaker> yes. but he's gone
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13:33:18  <Belugas> hello
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13:54:53  <BxTs> Hello
13:55:26  <BxTs> i have got problem with dedicaded ottd 1.3.0 server
13:55:37  <BxTs> everything seems to be allright
13:55:51  <BxTs> but i cant see game in client
13:56:11  <BxTs> dbg: [net] Map generated, starting game dbg: [net] [udp] queried from 178.36.XXX
13:56:34  <BxTs> i can query as you see
13:56:51  <BxTs> ports are open OS is freebsd
13:57:01  <BxTs> both udp and tcp
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14:28:08  <planetmaker> BxTs: if all network is properly setup, you find the server quickly in http://www.openttd.org/en/servers
14:28:13  <planetmaker> @ports
14:28:13  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound)
14:28:32  <planetmaker> and you need to make sure that you enabled advertising for the server. Look in the cfg for that setting
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14:31:43  <oskari89> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO0r4mInO20
14:31:45  <oskari89> :P
14:32:20  <BxTs> planetmaker: enabling advertising works :)
14:32:25  <BxTs> thank you ! :)
14:32:41  <planetmaker> yw
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16:37:20  <peter1138> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22641179
16:37:30  <peter1138> ^ glad i don't use wooden bridges in ottd :p
16:38:58  <frosch123> 10 million for a wood bridge?
16:40:51  <peter1138> well... to build something in its place
16:49:43  <Terkhen> hello
16:53:33  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember ever seeing a wooden rail bridge
16:54:30  <Eddi|zuHause> most of them are steel, some concrete, stone or brick
16:54:39  <Mazur> I do.
16:54:59  <Mazur> Wondering around some woods, over a stream, wooden bridges, with railings.
16:55:01  <Mazur> ;-)
16:55:16  <Mazur> wandering
16:55:25  <MNIM> they do exist in the new world, apparently
16:55:25  <Eddi|zuHause> rail != railing :p
16:55:33  <Mazur> (wooden railing bridge)
16:55:35  <MNIM> but eh, they build everything with wood
16:55:44  <Mazur> Merkins, eh?
16:56:26  <Eddi|zuHause> there are a few wooden road bridges
16:57:10  <Mazur> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/
16:57:20  <Mazur> Shameless self-promotion.
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17:00:30  <Mazur> What makes it even more poignant is, that they used a wooden in a forested area, which part of the year is dry.  Amazing it's not a yearly event.  I suppsoe they use a fire-retardant material, very good for hte environment.
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17:12:00  <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25278 trunk/readme.txt (2013-05-23 17:11:55 UTC)
17:12:01  <DorpsGek> -Doc: Update some small parts of the readme
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17:15:32  <tycoondemon> !download trunk/readme.txt
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17:16:14  <Eddi|zuHause2> ah there he is :p
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17:43:54  <Alberth> evenink
17:44:14  <permagreen> Good day
17:45:20  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25279 /trunk/src/lang (hungarian.txt welsh.txt) (2013-05-23 17:45:13 UTC)
17:45:21  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:22  <DorpsGek> hungarian - 26 changes by zorg
17:45:23  <DorpsGek> welsh - 1 changes by kazzie
17:46:21  <Alberth> your nick is light-red instead of green :)
17:46:55  <Eddi|zuHause> looks more dark orange to me
17:47:53  <permagreen> Oh darn
17:48:03  <permagreen> Should file a bug report
17:48:28  <planetmaker> it's green to me
17:48:51  <planetmaker> Alberth is more light green
17:48:57  <planetmaker> And Eddi is turquoise
17:49:03  <planetmaker> :-)
17:49:12  <permagreen> And you are purple for me
17:49:15  <Eddi|zuHause> said the blue person
17:49:20  <planetmaker> :D
17:49:44  <Alberth> nah, he's nicely earth-brown :)
17:49:57  <Alberth> or rather, planet-brown :D
17:49:58  <Eddi|zuHause> no, you're rust-red
17:50:18  <planetmaker> haha :-) planet-brown would suit me
17:50:39  <Eddi|zuHause> so how many planets are planet-brown then?
17:50:57  <planetmaker> 1
17:51:00  <planetmaker> Mars ;-)
17:51:22  <Alberth> never been there
17:51:49  <planetmaker> those who rightfully can claim that, please raise hands now ;-)
17:51:58  <Eddi|zuHause> i would recommend going during rain-season :p
17:52:34  <Alberth> although I played the Mars heightmap once in OpenTTD
17:52:52  <planetmaker> yeah. Interestingly, Eddi|zuHause, such thing actually *does* exist
17:52:58  <Eddi|zuHause> i only remember playing the mars map in simeath
17:52:58  <planetmaker> for certain definitions of 'rain'
17:53:13  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: preferably the water kind :p
17:53:20  <Alberth> I doubt it's very healthy to be there at such times :)
17:53:22  <planetmaker> I do speak of water, yes
17:53:39  <planetmaker> but the yearly precipitation is in the range of µm. instead of cm here on Earth
17:53:49  <Alberth> :)
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17:54:50  <planetmaker> best place wrt precipitation is the big crater in the Southern hemisphere...
17:55:09  <planetmaker> hellas basin
17:55:21  <planetmaker> anyway... cinema time. See you tomorrow
17:55:33  <Eddi|zuHause> greece is certainly a lovely place
17:55:39  <Alberth> bye planetmaker
17:55:58  <Eddi|zuHause> i watched startrek yesterday
17:56:25  <__ln__> the new one?
17:56:59  <planetmaker> that's what I'm going to watch today, Eddi|zuHause ;-)
17:57:22  <Eddi|zuHause> i was kinda expecting that, yes :p
17:57:31  <planetmaker> :D
17:58:22  <alluke> pm: when will it be possible to search servers via the newgrfs they use
17:58:57  <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: when you implement it
17:59:23  <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: all the data is there, just make a new filter function
18:00:07  <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: about 10LOC, so i expect your result in an hour
18:00:31  <alluke> i have no idea what to do
18:00:55  <Eddi|zuHause> just read the existing filter
18:01:56  <permagreen> I don't do a whole lot of coding, but stuff like that is usually pretty easy
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18:04:58  <__ln__> why do you have star trek now and won't have it until sunday?
18:05:53  <frosch123> movies always start on thursday
18:06:08  <Eddi|zuHause> but thursday, 2 weeks ago
18:06:25  <Eddi|zuHause> cinema is more expensive on the weekends
18:07:28  <frosch123> well, more imporant is to not go to the cinema before 22:00
18:07:37  <frosch123> or it will be full of underaged guys
18:09:21  <Eddi|zuHause> they don't often have after-22:00 shows here, at least not during the week
18:10:46  <__ln__> star trek is actually on premiere only the 5th june here, it's just shown once in advance next sunday.
18:11:56  <Eddi|zuHause> "Star Trek Into Darkness     Kinostart  9. Mai 2013"
18:12:04  <frosch123> 14:20, 17:20, 19:45, 23:15 here
18:12:44  <frosch123> though i wonder who watches st at 14:20
18:12:51  <frosch123> maybe pupils just after school?
18:12:51  <__ln__> that's so wrong, but at least it's not dubbed here.
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18:13:19  <Eddi|zuHause>  Heute   14:15 K1 16:10 K7 17:15 K1 19:30 K8 20:30 K1
18:13:22  <Wolf01> 'lo
18:13:28  <Alberth> hi Wolf01
18:13:42  <Eddi|zuHause> friday and saturday they have shows at 21:30
18:14:07  <frosch123> __ln__: ok, the OV version is only on sunday here as well :p
18:15:09  <frosch123> hmm, there is fast&furious 6 at cinema...
18:15:24  <frosch123> i remember watching f&f 2 :p
18:15:29  <frosch123> when did 3 to 5 happen? :p
18:15:33  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember watchin 2 :p
18:16:39  <Eddi|zuHause> wtf is the movie "smashed" and why is it only shown twice the entire week?
18:17:12  <Eddi|zuHause> "freigegeben ab 12 Jahren", but only friday/saturday at 22:10
18:17:14  <frosch123> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2063781/
18:17:32  <Eddi|zuHause> 6,6 rating, not very convincing :p
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18:18:49  <Eddi|zuHause> "Hanni & Nanni 3"... i should probably stop reading about what films are showing :p
18:18:56  <frosch123> given the summary i wouldn't even watch it, if it had a good rating
18:20:09  <frosch123> are 3d movies bad for children?
18:20:29  <frosch123> i never noticed they have some movied both in 3d and non-3d
18:20:30  <Wolf01> 3d movies are bad for everyone
18:20:52  <frosch123> but the non-3d are at 11:00 and 14:00
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18:21:17  <frosch123> though i have even less clue who goes to the cinema at 11:00
18:21:18  <Eddi|zuHause> with the early 3D movies, some people complained about headaches
18:21:40  <Eddi|zuHause> but that may be because of the way they were shot like 2D movies
18:22:10  <Eddi|zuHause> with quick cuts, out-of-focus, etc.
18:22:14  <Wolf01> I still do, I'll have my eyes crossed for about 15 minutes after the movie ends
18:23:26  <__ln__> almost all 3d movies here are shown also as 2d.
18:23:56  <Eddi|zuHause> most of the time the 3D is barely noticeable
18:24:09  <Eddi|zuHause> and then they throw a spear at you
18:24:12  <__ln__> the hobbit was shown as three versions; 2D, 3D, 3D hfr
18:24:34  <Pinkbeast> Leipzig was _covered_ in posters for "Hanni & Nanni 3"; until then I was blissfully unaware of 1 and 2.
18:25:32  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe i was in Leipzig at the wrong (or right) time, or i'm just blissfully ignorant
18:26:34  <Pinkbeast> I was clearly there at the wrong time, there were thousands of filthy goths. :-)
18:26:46  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, they do that :p
18:27:12  <Pinkbeast> Every time I go the trams are FULL of pissed goths. I don't know how it happens.
18:27:29  <frosch123> and the goths were there to watch hanni&nanni ?
18:27:29  <Eddi|zuHause> one year my brother was in Leipzig around that time, and he was dressed in bright white :p
18:27:58  <Eddi|zuHause> Pinkbeast: you go the same time every year? :p
18:28:21  <Pinkbeast> Eddi: No. (The WGT's at Whitsun, which moves with Easter...)
18:28:57  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, "Pfingsten"
18:28:58  <Pinkbeast> ALSO every time I go to Whitby it's full of pissed goths. I think they're following me.
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18:31:39  <Eddi|zuHause> or maybe you are following THEM?
18:32:01  <Pinkbeast> Ooh, I hadn't thought of that. But no, I just go for the steam locomotives # lies
18:32:28  <Eddi|zuHause> they are also dressed in filthy black? :p
18:33:01  <Pinkbeast> Actually the NYMR's stalwarts recently have been mostly two Black Fives and a 9F, so... well, clean shiny black, anyway
18:34:21  <Eddi|zuHause> a few days ago they stopped a steam train in Leipzig because they found a dead body on the track. (one that was not run over by a train)
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18:39:10  <Eddi|zuHause> "Switzerland discusses a constitution amendment that disallows the highest monthly wage of a company to be more than the lowest yearly wage"
18:42:11  <Alberth> nice solution :p
18:42:50  <Eddi|zuHause> they'll just circumvent that with subsidiaries and out-of-house contracts
18:44:36  <Alberth> move the boss to its own company :p
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18:49:01  <Pinkbeast> Huh. We were at the tram museum on Sunday and met someone who'd seen a steam locomotive at the HBF that morning - was it the dead body train?
18:49:34  <frosch123> "the dead body train"
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18:50:12  <Pinkbeast> frosch: "<Eddi|zuHause> a few days ago they stopped a steam train in Leipzig because they found a dead body on the track. (one that was not run over by a train)"
18:50:57  <Eddi|zuHause> Pinkbeast: yes, they couldn't reach the train museum from the position they were in, so they had to move to the HBF
18:51:21  <Eddi|zuHause> park the engine there over night, and move it to the train museum in the morning
18:51:35  <Pinkbeast> Stupid question time, where's the train museum?
18:51:47  <Eddi|zuHause> i think in Plagwitz, not sure
18:53:48  <Pinkbeast> How have I been to Leipzig four times and not known about this? Egads.
18:53:58  <Eddi|zuHause> https://maps.google.de/maps?oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&q=plagwitz&fb=1&gl=de&hq=plagwitz&cid=0,0,5299547745811092465&ll=51.312492,12.317498&spn=0.001797,0.001886&t=h&z=19&vpsrc=6
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18:59:07  <Rubidium> frosch123: wouldn't 11:00 be a nice time for jetlagged people? Or people that have lots of night shifts?
19:00:00  <Rubidium> or those that work for an US company from Europe (i.e. have meetings and such from 15:00 .. 23:00)
19:00:47  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i was ever in a cinema at 11:00
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19:09:39  <frosch123> Rubidium: apparently pupils have holydays this and next week
19:09:43  <frosch123> so it might be only due to that
19:11:03  <Wolf01> I need a software which can allow me to swap the audio channels at system level (not inside its application only, like a media player), does anybody of you ever found something like this?
19:11:07  <Eddi|zuHause> "Gesetz Ìber die Bundesförderung der Investitionen in den Ersatz der Schienenwege der öffentlichen nicht bundeseigenen Eisenbahnen im SchienengÌterfernverkehrsnetz" lovely name :)
19:11:40  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: that was last week, over here
19:12:13  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: looks like something that can be rewritten to one word ;)
19:12:24  <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: every decent audio driver should offer that option
19:12:59  <Wolf01> I only can change the speakers configuration from 2.0 to 4.0 :/
19:13:49  <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: anyway, that would be the right place to put that :p
19:14:13  <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: or you rewire the connection :p
19:14:26  <Wolf01> I think I'll do the hardware way
19:14:42  <Alberth> sounds much easier :p
19:15:10  <Wolf01> I have 2 TV as monitor, so I must find another way to move the speakers :P
19:16:07  <Wolf01> I'm lucky to have already the materials to do it, saturday could be a nice day to blow up all
19:16:33  * Alberth gives some extra dynamite, just in case
19:18:46  <peter1138> raw_read_error_rate, seek_error_rate & hardware_ecc_recovered go up every time in run smartctl -a
19:18:55  <peter1138> i guess i should bin this disk, yeah/
19:19:21  <Eddi|zuHause> or maybe you should not run smartctl? :p
19:20:26  <Rubidium> peter1138: just mention it to your sysadmin. That person ought to know what to do ;)
19:20:35  <peter1138> tee hee
19:21:03  <Mazur> I do that sonce smart began to stop me from booting a disk it has problems with.
19:21:10  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i love the windows-error-messages that sound like this :p
19:21:13  <Mazur> did that
19:21:32  <peter1138> yeah well, my actual faulty disk shows 0 errors with smart
19:22:08  <Mazur> Og course, some months later the disk filed more seriously, but I replaced it then.  Anything important was already off it.
19:22:14  <Mazur> failed
19:24:09  <Eddi|zuHause> the last time smartctl complained about a disk, i immediately sent it for warrantly replacement
19:24:27  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: the sysadmin at my work definitely knows what to do with those messages
19:24:47  <glx> Rubidium: clone and replace ?
19:24:49  <Rubidium> *ignore*
19:25:01  <glx> yeah that works too
19:25:23  <Rubidium> then when the disk finally fails... well, you'll have to wait 2 weeks for the new disk to arrive and be installed
19:26:05  <Rubidium> but then, my (wired) phone at work ain't working for a mere 4 months
19:26:13  <glx> my old p133 machine always required me to press a key at boot due to smart error, but it still runs
19:26:33  <Rubidium> and so far I have not had any confirmation that the backup of the SQL server it working, except "I'm working on it"
19:26:56  <Rubidium> but then, that's only in that state for more than a year
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19:44:18  <Eddi|zuHause> glx: and you didn't find the bios option to ignore errors?
19:44:33  <glx> it's a dell
19:44:39  <glx> they have stupid bios
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20:01:33  <Eddi|zuHause> "Web developer John Galantini implemented the london tube map in HTML/CSS without any images"
20:01:54  <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.csstubemap.co.uk/index.html
20:07:40  <frosch123> yeah, "implemented" might be the right term then
20:08:03  <frosch123> it's not 3d though
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20:10:00  <sla_ro|master> Why it should be 3D?
20:10:42  <frosch123> to be modern
20:10:45  <sla_ro|master> -.-
20:10:49  <sla_ro|master> YOu call that modern?
20:10:56  <sla_ro|master> All maps are 2D.
20:11:10  <frosch123> you mean paper is newer than the human eye?
20:11:16  <frosch123> and thus 2d is more modern?
20:12:02  <sla_ro|master> So find a map like that in 3D...
20:12:32  <sla_ro|master> Is just a informative map, not a game/world/etc. to explore.
20:12:35  <Eddi|zuHause> you realize that "modern" is already old, since we're living in post-modern times already?
20:12:54  <frosch123> http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/andy/blogimages/tube1.jpg <- there are a dozen more results like that
20:13:13  <sla_ro|master> That is even harder to read.
20:13:17  <sla_ro|master> being 3D.
20:13:26  <frosch123> sla_ro|master: anyway, contrary to surface rails, 3d might actually make sense for underground stuff :)
20:14:00  <sla_ro|master> Okay.
20:14:14  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: but the lines don't depict the way the rails go anyway
20:14:37  <Eddi|zuHause> it's all heavily simplified and abstracted
20:14:57  <frosch123> http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/andy/blogimages/realtube2.jpg <- tht looks more geo
20:15:39  <frosch123> https://mymzone.com/blog/london-underground-map-3d/ <- that looks more like 90's though
20:15:52  <frosch123> impossible to read :p
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20:18:05  <Dr_Tan> are we talking about Subways again?
20:18:20  <Dr_Tan> and how they would be awesome if the game allowed for layered maps?
20:18:29  <frosch123> what game?
20:18:33  <Dr_Tan> OTTD
20:18:41  <Dr_Tan> what other game would i be talking about?
20:18:58  <Eddi|zuHause> command&conquer
20:19:01  <frosch123> no idea why you would want to talk about a game here
20:19:16  <Eddi|zuHause> age of empires
20:19:20  <Dr_Tan> lol
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20:19:37  <frosch123> i remember an interesting colonization discussion
20:19:51  <Eddi|zuHause> i always loved how age of empires had "heightlevels" and "cliffs", but you couldn't combine both
20:20:07  <Eddi|zuHause> cliffs had to be flat on one end
20:20:16  <Nat_aS> cliffs were strange
20:20:37  <Nat_aS> they could lead to some Esher shit if you messed around with them
20:20:38  <frosch123> hm... i do not remember any cliffs
20:20:49  <frosch123> were they also in aoe2?
20:20:57  <Nat_aS> I think so
20:21:00  <MNIM> yeah
20:21:02  <Eddi|zuHause> probably
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20:22:08  <Nat_aS> what new features have been added to OTTD lately?
20:22:15  <Nat_aS> I haven't been on in a while
20:22:18  <frosch123> i really cannot remember any cliffs
20:22:35  <frosch123> and i would have remembered if one could siege trebuchets on top of a cliff
20:22:37  <Eddi|zuHause> i can't help you with that :p
20:22:41  <frosch123> unreachable from ground troups
20:22:47  <Nat_aS> frosch123: they were squiggly brown things
20:23:01  <Nat_aS> and could lead to some escher like maps if you fucked around with them
20:23:10  <Nat_aS> and they were incompatable with the way hills worked
20:23:46  <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.ageofempires.co.nz/cgi-bin/aoe-screenshots.cgi?cliff-side-colony
20:24:40  <Nat_aS> "Tool age"
20:24:44  <Nat_aS> what version is that?
20:25:18  <Nat_aS> oh derp, I remember now
20:25:21  <Eddi|zuHause> how do you expect me to have any more information about some random google find?
20:25:28  <Nat_aS> they split the stone age up into two ages
20:25:36  <frosch123> maybe they did not appear on random generated maps?
20:25:45  <frosch123> i only ever played random maps
20:25:48  <Eddi|zuHause> possibly
20:26:06  <Eddi|zuHause> you never used the scenario editor?
20:26:42  <MNIM> they did appear on randoms, as far as Im aware
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20:27:03  <Eddi|zuHause> may depend on map type and stuff
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20:45:42  <Eddi|zuHause> ok, so there definitely just appeared a cliff on a random map
20:45:46  <Eddi|zuHause> in age2
20:52:00  <frosch123> night
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21:15:26  <Eddi|zuHause> ah, i remember, i totally suck at this game :p
21:16:55  <glx> I'm usually too slow when playing against human
21:17:51  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm already too slow when playing against (hard) AI
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21:20:55  <glx> same here
21:21:54  <Eddi|zuHause> "Congress' Apple hearing was not actually about paying too little taxes, but about paying too little campaign contributions"
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22:41:54  <Eddi|zuHause> "For the fifth night in a row, cars burn in Stockholm, as youths riot"
22:42:34  <Eddi|zuHause> such a thing was apparently only expected in paris, or london, or athens, or ...?
22:57:02  <Wolf01> 'night all
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23:08:35  <glx> Eddi|zuHause: usually not in paris, but near paris ;)
23:09:09  <glx> except when football "supporters" are happy
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23:30:24  <Samu> a
23:30:35  <Samu> hi
23:31:12  <Samu> i had an idea about landsaping limits
23:31:52  <Samu> what do you think of local authority handling landscape limit?
23:32:12  <Samu> and not a global company limit?
23:32:18  <Samu> server setting?
23:34:54  <V453000> I think the core of the idea is good, as in tf limits handled by location, but at the same time it would get into quite big problems as local authority doesnt really grow back up unless you are providing service to that town
23:35:19  <V453000> or growing trees ofc, but growing trees just to terraform sounds really weird
23:36:45  <Samu> I don't know the rating penalties
23:37:21  <Samu> landscaping would be impossible at a really low rating
23:37:32  <Samu> less than placing a station
23:38:38  <Samu> let me find the wiki article
23:39:47  <Eddi|zuHause> the whole authority thing needs a revamp, fixing the tree abuse amongst others
23:40:00  <V453000> ^
23:41:26  <Samu> http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Local_authority_rating
23:41:29  <Samu> found it
23:42:37  <Eddi|zuHause> also i thought about giving towns "personalities", like industry-friendly, transport-friendly, environment-friendly
23:42:55  <Eddi|zuHause> but that might rather be something for a gamescript
23:42:59  <V453000> :d
23:43:29  <V453000> just put there an option to disable authorities entirely and it is solved :>
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23:47:12  <Samu> what is the penalty on rating for landscaping?
23:47:16  <Samu> 1 corner?
23:48:01  <Eddi|zuHause> none
23:48:30  <Samu> hmm so it's based on clearing tiles?
23:48:38  <Samu> the number of affected tiles?
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23:50:23  <Samu> i remember i can't lanscape that much near a town or I'm forbidden to place a station, what is the penalties here?
23:51:02  <Eddi|zuHause> the penalty is for removing trees, not clearing tiles or raising/lowering corners
23:51:21  <Samu> hmm is grass clearing penalized too?
23:51:33  <Samu> plain grass/ice/desert?
23:51:40  <Eddi|zuHause> no
23:51:53  <Samu> odd
23:52:42  <Samu> I'm thinking it wrong then
23:52:58  <Eddi|zuHause> like i said, it needs a revamp
23:59:41  <Samu> the unsussecful bribe
23:59:50  <Samu> unsucessful*

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