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00:00:30 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:04:23 *** permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has joined #openttd 00:15:13 <samu> big brother vip 00:17:06 <samu> the most interesting thing out of bbv are the graphs 00:31:58 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 00:40:48 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:45:36 <samu> desync error :( 00:46:50 <samu> someone joined my game and left immediately with desync error, anything I can do about it? 00:47:41 <samu> maybe i shouldn't worry too much :/ 01:12:57 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 01:17:09 <opr> going to bed samu 01:17:16 <opr> thanks for playing on my server :p 01:17:22 <opr> thanks for helping too 01:17:22 <samu> np 01:17:31 <samu> i learned a few things too 01:17:38 <samu> cya 01:25:00 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:26:22 *** Djohaal 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[~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 08:36:18 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:52:11 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.195] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:53:25 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.195] has joined #openttd 08:59:05 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:02:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A461.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:02:37 *** bolli [~Sam@188.164.226.211] has joined #openttd 09:03:11 <bolli> Hola 09:09:31 <bolli> Has anybody got any idea whats causing this issue? "dbg: [net] [tcp/game] received illegal packet type 0 from client 17" 09:09:51 <bolli> I'm not sending packet type 0, so I don't know why its thinking I am 09:14:01 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:17:11 <peter1138> mtu issue? 09:17:46 <peter1138> not sure if that affects tcp though 09:19:37 <Ristovski> Hmm, can you change GFX set while playing a game? 09:19:41 <bolli> Not sure.... 09:20:05 <bolli> I'm sending it as 1 packet, so I can't see why tehre would be any MTU involved.. 09:21:05 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 09:22:53 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:24:42 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 09:24:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 09:26:26 <peter1138> oh you're sending custom packets 09:26:37 <peter1138> sending too much data? 09:27:19 <peter1138> like sending the whole of your packet buffer instead of just the amount needed 09:28:29 <bolli> hmm 09:28:32 <bolli> Potentially... 09:28:58 <bolli> Sorry, I should have said, I'm using the admin interface from a custom client 09:32:56 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 09:34:43 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:51 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 10:00:37 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 10:00:37 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:02:07 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 10:07:57 <perk11> Ristovski: yes, but it's potentially unstable 10:08:23 <Ristovski> perk11: hmm, why? 10:08:33 <Ristovski> also, how can it be done? 10:08:40 <perk11> becaus some grf are not mad for this 10:08:57 <perk11> oh wait you mean GFX set like open GFX? 10:09:08 <Ristovski> yes 10:09:09 <Ristovski> :D 10:09:19 <perk11> no that's not possible AFAIK 10:09:44 <Ristovski> D: 10:10:06 <perk11> you can just save game and change it in main menu, what's the problem 10:11:02 <Ristovski> perk11: I play on a server that has a 2048x2048 map, and I can't disconnect and reconnect since my connection is really bad 10:11:19 <perk11> I see 10:11:39 <Ristovski> and sometimes I want to play with OpenGFX and simetimes with zBase :D 10:19:57 <planetmaker> Ristovski, connect with two clients ;-) 10:20:35 <planetmaker> btw, Ristovski, zBase contains the whole of OpenGFX. Just force to use 8bpp mode with zBase... and you got OpenGFX ;-) 10:20:51 <Ristovski> planetmaker: how? 10:20:52 <planetmaker> but you'd need to quit for that, too :D 10:21:06 <Ristovski> aww 10:22:17 <planetmaker> and you can't swap base grfs as it has similar effect as changing grfs... it changes all sprite numbers 10:22:22 <planetmaker> thus all would be jumbled 10:22:26 <Ristovski> aww 10:26:26 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:30:24 <Ristovski> planetmaker: also, why if you shutdown a server, it doesnt load the latest autosave? 10:30:24 <Ristovski> so I end up manually saving & loading 10:37:15 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:43:46 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44:33 *** dotwaffle [~dotwaffle@00013104.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Scheduled upgrade my arse...] 10:46:01 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:46:28 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:56:20 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 11:22:13 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:15 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:41:20 *** dotwaffle [~dotwaffle@00013104.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:48:44 *** Pecio [~fgh@doo126.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:12 <peter1138> http://i.imgur.com/V1l9E0F.png 12:08:20 *** zooks [~zooks@wlan-177-047.wlan.ru.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:10:18 <Ristovski> peter1138: Lol 12:13:18 *** moroz [id@37.140.110.239] has joined #openttd 12:18:56 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@node-12645.pppoe.execulink.com] has joined #openttd 12:38:41 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47:36 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:51:59 *** roadt__ [~roadt@114.96.128.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:36:05 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@node-12645.pppoe.execulink.com] has quit [] 13:41:40 *** samu [~oftc-webi@206.107.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 13:41:47 <samu> goodday 13:44:24 <samu> do diamonds help a town with city label grow? 13:44:59 <samu> normal game, not a citybuilder game 13:45:17 *** opr [~op@resnet-112.nat.lancs.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 13:49:00 <samu> on a desert 13:57:27 *** adit [~user@180.248.36.86] has joined #openttd 14:00:48 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 14:05:36 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:06:20 <samu> hmm 14:06:26 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 14:06:48 <adit> I wanna report some strange issue with openttd nightly r25300. 14:07:47 <samu> if I deliver water to a water tower that is part of a town placed on a jungle tile, the town doesn't seem to grow 14:08:22 <samu> the town is not (city) 14:08:44 <adit> when playing openttd in fullscreen mode, and then go out to full window mode, suddenly typing in any input doesn work. 14:08:57 <adit> s/doesn/doesn't 14:09:45 <adit> although keyboard shortcut still work 14:11:06 <adit> output in terminal shows this line: 14:11:12 <adit> dbg: [driver] SDL: Restarting SDL video subsystem, to force hwpalette change 14:11:44 <samu> if the station tile receiving water is placed on the desert, the town doesn't grow 14:11:58 <samu> but if the station tile is placed on the jungle 14:12:01 <samu> it grows 14:12:25 <samu> this is quite odd, i have to repeat this for all tiles 14:12:36 <adit> my OS ubuntu 13.04. 14:13:06 <samu> sorry adit, i don't know how to help you, devs might be afk 14:13:10 <planetmaker> what you mean with "typing in any input" when shortcuts still work? 14:13:14 <samu> or not 14:13:39 <planetmaker> is it reproducable, adit ? 14:14:44 <adit> planetmaker: yes, i've try it in r25303 and r25300 and the problem still exist. 14:14:57 <adit> but it doesn't exist in 1.2.3 14:15:33 <planetmaker> yes... can you open an issue in the bug tracker about it? Describing in detail what works and what not? 14:15:46 <adit> "typing in any input" for example typing in console, rename sign box, rename vehicle box, etc. 14:16:08 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:16:21 <planetmaker> There was a code change between 1.2 and 1.3 in that part, so... might be... dunno SDL's details there by heart or what exactly the palette change affects in its periphery 14:16:52 <planetmaker> adit, are other programmes affected? 14:17:14 <planetmaker> or do only keyboard handling within OpenTTD cease working? 14:17:25 <planetmaker> *does 14:17:30 <adit> planetmaker: keyboard still working. 14:17:56 <adit> planetmaker: to open terminal i type ~, so there no issue with keyboard. 14:18:03 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 14:18:23 <adit> s/terminal/console 14:18:41 <adit> any keyboard shortcut work as expected 14:19:14 <planetmaker> does it help, if you click explicity the input area where you want to type? 14:19:50 <planetmaker> hm... 14:20:01 <planetmaker> I get a feeling as of what you mean 14:20:23 <adit> planetmaker: i've try that, at first i though the input are unfocused, so i try to click the area. 14:20:39 <planetmaker> yeah. No effect. Please open a bug report 14:21:23 <planetmaker> I can confirm your observation 14:21:34 <adit> i wanna confirm this in r2536 and the stable 1.3.1 first. 14:21:44 <planetmaker> it will affect both 14:21:51 <planetmaker> no need to try, adit 14:22:02 <planetmaker> well. r2536 won't be affected :D 14:22:14 <planetmaker> But I doubt you'll manage to get that version running 14:22:29 <planetmaker> @commit 2536 14:22:29 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Commit by Darkvater :: r2536 trunk/spritecache.c (2005-07-09 00:14:40 UTC) 14:22:30 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: - Fix: [ 1215999 ] Segmentation fault in main menu - corrupted sample.cat. Flush the output buffer to print the error message before the game crashes. (mcmohr) 14:22:33 <planetmaker> :-) 14:22:43 <planetmaker> 8 years old :D 14:23:02 <samu> may I? not sure if it's related, I have had openttd scroll up,down,left,right with the arrow keys when its window is not focused 14:23:11 <samu> but sometimes it doesn't 14:23:39 <samu> doesn't bother me much, but it's quite funny to see 14:24:06 <samu> i press those arrow keys for another application, namely NFSW 14:24:18 <samu> racing game 14:27:18 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:27:25 <adit> planetmaker: ok, going to http://bugs.openttd.org/ 14:29:07 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 14:29:16 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:31:44 *** samu [~oftc-webi@206.107.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:39:24 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:39:47 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 14:44:36 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 14:53:05 <planetmaker> adit, yes, that'll be the place to report it 14:54:22 <planetmaker> do you prepare the report? 14:54:39 *** opr [~op@resnet-112.nat.lancs.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:54 <adit> yes 14:58:35 <adit> the bug also exist in r25316 and 1.3.1 14:58:41 <adit> i've try it. 15:01:31 <planetmaker> Yes 15:01:47 <planetmaker> anything since ~December will have that bug 15:01:55 <planetmaker> which runs with SDL 15:02:29 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:04:16 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-147-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:05:20 <planetmaker> @commit 24993 15:05:20 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Commit by matthijs :: r24993 /trunk/src (sdl.h video/sdl_v.cpp) (2013-02-14 11:06:12 UTC) 15:05:21 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: -Fix: [SDL] Improve 8bpp hardware palette support. Instead of always requesting SDL_HWPALETTE, it is now only done for 8bp blitters in fullscreen mode. 15:05:22 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: - This fixes 32bpp blitters on 8bpp X11, which would only render garbage with SDL_HWPALETTE. 15:05:23 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: - This prevents the colors of other applications from being messed up when running a 8bpp blitter on a 8bpp system. 15:05:24 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: - When running a 8bpp blitter on an 8bpp system without SDL_HWPALETTE (e.g., in windowed mode), this uses a new shadow surface with color approximation. 15:05:25 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: (...) 15:05:55 <blathijs> Oh boy, did I break it? 15:06:07 <planetmaker> dunno. Maybe. Maybe not 15:06:44 <planetmaker> blathijs, as adit just reported here (and will in the tracker :D ), all text input areas become unfocus-able after going back from full screen to windowed mode 15:06:51 <planetmaker> I can confirm that behaviour 15:07:03 <blathijs> I just read back, quite probably caused by my commit 15:08:03 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:26 <planetmaker> it's a bit of a strange consequence, though 15:08:31 <adit> planetmaker: the reverse also true, going in from windowed to fullscreen also trigger it 15:08:47 <planetmaker> oh, ok 15:09:17 <blathijs> Either one will restart SDL, so probably SDL does not get reinitialized properly 15:09:54 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:13:50 <blathijs> Yup, it's that commit. If I prevent the SDL restart by running openttd -v sdl:hw_palette=1 then the keyboard input keeps working 15:14:54 <blathijs> I'll have a look at it soon, unless someone beats me to it 15:15:45 <planetmaker> I'll soonish start looking at peeling asperagus instead :D 15:19:04 <adit> Ok, this is my first bug report, http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5580 15:19:27 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 15:20:18 <adit> BTW, why I keep getting "dbg: [grf] OpenTTD GUI graphics sprites are missing 15:20:38 <adit> although i've installed opengfx 15:21:56 <planetmaker> trunk? 15:22:10 <adit> planetmaker: yes. 15:22:21 <planetmaker> as you then will have a missing one. Except if you get http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/LATEST/ 15:22:32 <adit> owh... 15:22:35 <planetmaker> I haven't gotten around to releasing that updated one yet 15:22:55 <planetmaker> bad me, I know :D 15:23:04 <planetmaker> gotta run. Catch you later. Thanks for the report, adit 15:23:05 <adit> well, there are no README or so anywhere that explain that. 15:23:15 <planetmaker> good point 15:23:17 <adit> yourwelcome 15:31:55 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:34:47 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-188-102-147-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:44:51 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6722F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:00:31 <Eddi|zuHause> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jvnoWASUFqE/UaxC3TyFXOI/AAAAAAABQFs/xD4-CuR-Fow/w506-h380-o/vIb7VU.gif 16:07:26 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@189.106.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 16:11:53 *** aleksey [~aleksey@37.79.114.86] has joined #openttd 16:11:53 *** aleksey [~aleksey@37.79.114.86] has quit [] 16:15:29 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:24:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:27:01 *** adit [~user@180.248.36.86] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:28:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:30:33 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:32:54 *** samu [~oftc-webi@91.153.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 16:32:58 <samu> hi 16:33:39 <samu> on the console, the script command doesn't work for me 16:34:19 <samu> I type script spyonretards.txt 16:34:33 <samu> it errors - cannot open file 16:35:25 <samu> actually it says that it starts logging, then shows that error 16:36:59 <samu> i tried to enter a pathname 16:37:19 <samu> c:\something\somthing... but as I press \, it closes console 16:39:34 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@109.58.145.201.bredband.tre.se] has joined #openttd 16:40:03 <Zuu_> Try using forward slash instead. 16:42:28 *** moroz [id@37.140.110.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:25 <samu> didn't work, :8 16:43:44 <samu> ah, it works! 16:44:08 <samu> ty 16:44:57 <samu> must permaban someone 16:45:06 <samu> killed someone elses buses and blocked my ships 16:45:28 <samu> will this log IP addresses? 16:45:32 <samu> or do i need something else? 16:46:22 <Zuu_> Running a stable server? 16:46:32 <samu> nop 16:46:41 <samu> using console ingame 16:47:14 <Zuu_> So it is not your server? 16:47:36 <Zuu_> Or is it non-stable? 16:47:38 <samu> yes, i'm server but playing 16:50:07 <samu> i don't get the question? 16:50:37 <Zuu_> With rcon or admin port you can remotely admin the server. 16:51:13 <Zuu_> If you run a trunj server people tend to play nicer. 16:51:23 <samu> trunj? 16:52:17 <Zuu_> Trunk 16:52:29 <Zuu_> Got to go 16:52:37 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@109.58.145.201.bredband.tre.se] has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:52:58 <samu> what is rcon? 16:55:19 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:56:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18579.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:57:27 <samu> forget about it 16:57:44 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-044-107.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:58 <samu> notepad doesn't place enters between lines 16:59:01 <samu> :/ 17:03:30 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 17:03:37 <samu> there's no way to know who was playing yesterday? 17:06:13 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:07:10 <Eddi|zuHause> only if you create a logfile from the output 17:11:10 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:11:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f738e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:05 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [] 17:13:24 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.16.38.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:23:25 <samu> do you like rumours? 17:27:12 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 17:29:27 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:29:44 <Eddi|zuHause> do you like metaquestions? 17:29:49 *** bolli [~Sam@188.164.226.211] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:35:14 <samu> what? 17:35:16 <V453000> I DONT KNOW 17:42:13 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AD2D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:43:06 <samu> why can I build canal on water? 17:43:48 <V453000> yes 17:43:53 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:10 <samu> but why? 17:44:18 <V453000> yes 17:45:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25317 /trunk/src/lang (finnish.txt galician.txt) (2013-06-03 17:45:13 UTC) 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> finnish - 1 changes by jpx_ 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> galician - 106 changes by Michi 17:45:41 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.233.3.31] has joined #openttd 17:45:51 <samu> nerd 17:46:24 <Wolf01> hai o/ 17:46:32 <V453000> not like your question has any sense at all 17:46:43 <V453000> why, because you fucking can :) 17:47:03 <frosch123> did you ever consider that shaun the sheep could be a unicorn? 17:48:25 <samu> ? 17:48:26 <V453000> oh my god, or that fate mate of his 17:48:36 <V453000> certainly an option frosch123 17:48:57 <frosch123> better topic? :p 17:49:27 <samu> isn't it redundant? 17:49:46 <frosch123> how could a unicorn be redundant? 17:50:06 <samu> im talking about building a canal on water 17:50:09 <samu> it's already water! 17:50:49 <frosch123> offer your bathtub then 17:50:54 <frosch123> it also holds water 17:50:57 <V453000> I think the rainbow is a bit extra but yeah 17:51:28 <juzza1> samu: you can fence water-level ground tiles with canals 17:51:34 <frosch123> extra to the sheep? or to the unicorn? 17:51:34 <juzza1> so they wont get flooded 17:52:10 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.16.38.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52:47 <V453000> I mean extra like a bonus, where the bonus is actually like the main thing 17:52:47 <Wolf01> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZjYL847KnI nice, too bad I can understand only the background voice (and some times Hammond) 17:55:04 *** samu [~oftc-webi@91.153.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:10 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 18:22:34 <V453000> I usually dont give two shits about the real train links around here, but the caster is great Wolf01 :) thanks for that 18:32:08 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:32:11 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:32:43 <Alberth> o/ 18:32:57 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:32:57 <Ristovski> hi 18:46:58 *** samu [~oftc-webi@91.153.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 18:48:05 <samu> hi 18:48:49 <samu> could openttd stop playing sounds/music if the window is minimized? 18:49:03 <samu> then come back with them when restored 18:50:08 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:50:44 <blathijs> Sounds like a useful feature, I wonder if it's already implemented 18:50:51 <blathijs> samu: Did you have a look around the options 18:50:52 <blathijs> ? 18:51:06 <samu> nop, not really 18:51:43 <samu> game options or advanced settings? 18:51:50 <blathijs> advanced settings, I'd say 18:52:29 <samu> advanced settings lets me change sound effects for a specific sound category, like beeps, ambient 18:52:33 <samu> on or off 18:52:57 <samu> nop 18:53:05 <samu> there isn't 18:53:32 <Rubidium> only caveat is that you can't quite implement is without completely aborting the music playback 18:53:59 <Rubidium> and it adds only more cases where sound doesn't work (which are even harder to reproduce) 18:54:22 <samu> I know :o 18:55:04 <samu> maybe music not based on .mid 18:55:09 <samu> mp3? wma? 18:55:17 <samu> m4a? 18:55:19 <Rubidium> so it's not going to happen "soon" 18:55:27 <samu> oki 18:55:44 <Rubidium> yay for listing all kinds of patent encumbered file formats 18:55:59 <samu> hmm, wav 18:55:59 <Wolf01> http://hugelolcdn.com/i/131249.gif ahahah 18:56:18 <Alberth> samu: try ogg :) 18:56:27 <samu> ah, sorry, :o 18:56:31 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:57:08 <samu> ogg, yeah I heard of it too, but I don't see them as often 18:57:09 <Alberth> Wolf01: just watched a few snow plough trains at YT, much more impressive :p 18:57:18 <samu> flac too 18:57:43 <Alberth> samu: unfortunately, many people don't care about not having free access to their data 18:57:44 <Wolf01> Alberth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZjYL847KnI this is really interesting 18:58:07 <Wolf01> and... hello Alberth :P 18:59:16 <samu> aborting music playback also seems fine to me 19:00:17 <Alberth> Wolf01: assuming it's the same link you posted before (I tried both, and got http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/not_so_interesting_unfortunately.png ) 19:00:31 <Wolf01> :( 19:00:34 <Alberth> yay for adobe support of 64bit linuces :p 19:01:12 <Alberth> but I found some nice snow ploughing trains instead :) 19:02:21 <Wolf01> link? 19:02:58 <Alberth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGYJRsiuHEM 19:04:35 <Wolf01> :o 19:06:54 <Wolf01> at first I was "a diesel engine just cold started" then "oh wait, that's not diesel" 19:07:17 <Alberth> nope, it's wood or coal :) 19:07:37 <Alberth> nice they use a steam engine for it :) 19:10:22 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11:17 <Wolf01> btw, on the video I linked I learnt that the Shinkansen is a EMU 19:12:01 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 19:13:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:13:40 <Alberth> o/ 19:13:43 <andythenorth> o/ 19:13:45 <andythenorth> oops 19:13:46 <Wolf01> o/ 19:13:48 <andythenorth> wrong channel 19:13:50 <andythenorth> :P 19:13:59 <Alberth> you're welcome anyway :) 19:14:18 <alluke> wrong? 19:14:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 19:14:38 <Alberth> clearly wrong channel :) 19:16:14 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [] 19:16:18 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 19:16:21 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 19:16:26 <alluke> ops 19:16:34 <Wolf01> wrong button? 19:16:46 <alluke> not really 19:16:54 <alluke> accidentally swiped my magic mouse 19:21:34 <alluke> why arent there any public mp servers with good taste in grfs 19:23:27 <V453000> I am insulted 19:26:20 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.16.38.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 19:27:15 <samu> disaster suggestion: ships sin 19:27:17 <samu> sink 19:28:21 <Alberth> people already have major trouble with aircraft crashing at airports 19:28:38 <samu> :) 19:28:39 <Ristovski> samu: why not tornadoes and thunderstorms :D 19:28:53 <samu> or ship crashes into a dock 19:29:02 <samu> hehe 19:29:30 <Ristovski> yeah 19:30:30 <samu> it's the only vehicle without disasters, isn't it? 19:30:55 <Ristovski> I think 19:31:03 <Ristovski> samu: doesnt submarines sink boats? 19:31:23 <samu> i don't think so 19:31:48 <samu> but i've never seen anything about ships disastering 19:32:59 <samu> a ship is lost - activate chance that the ship will sink 19:38:22 <alluke> the fuck 19:38:33 <alluke> i just found out that ogfx+ trains are 32bpp by default 19:39:04 <alluke> only one word: epic 19:41:07 <samu> ships are quite imba when infrastructure maintenance costs are on 19:42:31 *** chester_ [~chester@128-69-96-146.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:43:04 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43:04 <samu> 2 ships since 1950, breakdowns normal, 100k loan, inflation, disasters, 4% interest, high build costs, high running costs, hostile towns, anything that adds difficulty 19:43:29 <samu> and now by the year 2039 i'm the only company suriving 19:44:07 <samu> my profit graph line is increasing instead of decreasing, albeit slightly 19:44:23 <samu> nearly everyone else bankrupted 19:46:11 <samu> i see mauve with broken train lines 19:46:13 <samu> aliens 19:46:17 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-044-107.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:56:56 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 20:06:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:46 <frosch123> night 20:09:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f738e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:11:46 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:52 <__ln__> meanwhile in finland: http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2013/06/03/basis12/euro/tmax/13060318_2_0312.gif 20:16:36 <samu> wow 20:16:47 <samu> 31C where I am 20:17:13 <Markk> We had 25 degrees here yesterday. 20:17:17 <Markk> (Stockholm, Sweden) 20:18:04 <samu> that red in finland close to a green in denmark 20:18:10 <samu> norway* 20:18:11 <__ln__> last week the very northernmost corner of finland was the warmest place in europe, or something like that. 20:18:33 <Markk> That's fucked up. 20:18:45 <Markk> Finland isn't supposed to be warm. 20:19:43 <__ln__> 30 degrees in the very north last week. 20:19:57 <Markk> samu: That's because of the mountain tops. :) 20:20:25 <Markk> samu: The northwestern part of Sweden and northen parts of Norway has quite a lot of mountains. 20:21:17 <samu> it's affecting water temperatures too? 20:21:54 <Markk> That's the northen sea. 20:22:27 <Markk> Check the gulf of bothnia. 20:22:35 <Markk> Also not as warn as Finland. 20:23:10 <samu> volcanic activity? 20:23:19 <samu> strange stuff 20:23:32 <samu> fires? 20:23:47 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 20:24:46 <samu> look at egypt 20:24:52 <samu> that's 48 over 20:26:22 <samu> those -14ºc seem quite low for a place that was supposed to be the coldest 20:29:39 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-68-29.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 20:30:02 <samu> quite high* 20:31:42 <samu> sometimes when I access Client list, the window doesn't appear 20:31:53 <samu> it's hidden somewhere 20:32:49 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:33:31 <samu> I am forced to press Delete to make it reappear 20:33:43 <samu> so i know it's hidden 20:35:35 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:41:21 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:56 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 20:55:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18579.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:20 <samu> someone played here, lasted 5 years and went bankrupt 21:01:18 <samu> https://rupavq.dm1.livefilestore.com/y2p1cdUrlIDka2pYjcr08_5ZKBV6pemDwSZQHSQ8vywDD9BF3Iq_5IlkmW8zbX_Ff4XlZgEzAwX-QcuBSeIxauraGWAKkcm6zoqKCAIVmbr6RM/Grondborough%20Transport%2C%202043-08-31.png?psid=1 21:01:22 <samu> ops 21:01:50 <samu> skydrive image links are ridiculously long 21:02:31 <samu> http://sdrv.ms/10MzTOG 21:03:05 <MNIM> Try imgur.com 21:03:24 <alluke> skydrive sucks 21:03:31 <alluke> get dropbox 21:06:06 <samu> it doesn't suck, i can upload by selecting right click file - send to skydrive folder, pretty much 21:06:39 <samu> and i get 25 GB free 21:07:29 <alluke> dropbox should have the send feature too 21:07:33 <alluke> but less space 21:07:39 <alluke> though you can get it more 21:08:46 <Markk> I got 25GB dropbox free as well. 21:08:58 <Markk> But I have two VPS. 21:09:20 <samu> http://i.imgur.com/SiWVTMF.png 21:13:22 <alluke> whats the point of that screenshot 21:13:57 <samu> it was someone with all profitable vehicles 21:14:08 <samu> but infrastructure + loan kills him 21:15:31 <samu> property maintenance for my company, only ships, is £19k 21:17:28 <Eddi|zuHause> http://twentytwowords.com/2013/05/30/warning-signs-at-historical-sites-tell-visitors-to-relax-and-enjoy-themselves/ 21:17:29 <samu> well, £22k right now, inflation is on 21:19:02 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:19:39 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20:40 <samu> the game needs something that hurts ships more harder 21:22:13 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:22:23 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 21:22:26 <blathijs> planetmaker: This seems to fix the keyboard problem spotted this afternoon: http://www.stderr.nl/static/tmp/keyboard-fix.diff 21:22:30 <alluke> why? 21:22:48 <alluke> ships arent really competitive when compared to trains 21:23:35 <SineTheCreator> depends 21:23:56 <samu> hmm i think i have to compete against myself next game, at least there will be no different player, but some bias perhaps 21:24:00 <SineTheCreator> if you're using them to move oil they do pretty good 21:24:09 <samu> one company trains, the other ships 21:24:41 <planetmaker> let's see, blathijs 21:25:04 <samu> pink made 1 train, then many buses 21:25:19 <samu> train was passenger 21:25:20 <SineTheCreator> eh, nobody said ships should be used exclusively :F 21:25:32 <planetmaker> hehe, blathijs /home/ingo/ottd/trunk/src/video/sdl_v.cpp:660:6: error: âVideDriver_SDLâ has not been declared 21:26:09 <samu> he was barely above the profitable line 21:26:20 <alluke> samu, are you playing on some mp server? 21:26:24 <samu> yes 21:26:30 <samu> on my own game 21:26:50 <alluke> youre hosting? 21:26:51 <blathijs> planetmaker: Wth, I just compiled and tested this 21:26:54 <samu> the running costs or something drag down the profit over time 21:27:18 <samu> maybe loan + running costs + infrastructure 21:27:19 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:27:29 <blathijs> planetmaker: Oh wait, then I moved a bit of code and messed up :-S 21:27:47 <planetmaker> :-) 21:27:54 <samu> but for me, using only ships 21:28:00 <samu> my profit actually increases over time 21:28:06 <samu> by doing nothing 21:28:13 <alluke> server name? 21:28:31 <planetmaker> that typo fixed it compiles 21:28:38 <samu> Not so impossible settings 21:28:47 <samu> name: Not so impossible settings 21:28:52 <alluke> :D 21:29:25 <blathijs> planetmaker: And it works again as well here 21:29:51 <blathijs> I also attached the patch on FS#5580, if adit confirms it also works for him, I'll commit it 21:31:08 <planetmaker> I say, go commit 21:31:28 <planetmaker> meh... fullscreen made all my windows on the rhs monitor go to the left one :S 21:31:39 <Rubidium> blathijs: did you notice the new release? 21:42:00 *** adit [~adit@180.248.36.86] has joined #openttd 21:44:36 <planetmaker> blathijs, I do not believe that the bug reporter is interested in compiling himself 21:46:15 <planetmaker> hello adit 21:46:26 <adit> planetmaker: hello 21:46:49 <adit> did someone say compiling something? 21:47:02 <planetmaker> yes, I did, I guess. And was even referring to you :-P 21:47:30 <planetmaker> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5580 with a source-code patch 21:47:36 <planetmaker> Thus you could test, if you self-compile 21:47:44 <planetmaker> if not: works for me 21:50:50 <Wolf01> 'night 21:50:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:51:39 <adit> planetmaker: ok, downloading the source now. will report later. 21:52:20 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 21:59:44 *** chester_ [~chester@128-69-96-146.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:13:26 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AD2D.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:16:34 <planetmaker> g' night 22:28:27 <blathijs> Rubidium: Yeah, I noticed your message and than forgot about it during the day. I'll try again tomorrow :-) 22:28:58 <blathijs> adit: Thanks! 22:29:03 * blathijs is off to bed now, though 22:29:24 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: If you think nobody cares, try missing a few payments] 22:37:44 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:40:23 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:52:19 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:56:27 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:15:27 <adit> blathijs: the patch works for me. 23:17:59 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-044-107.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:19:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:31:51 *** samu [~oftc-webi@91.153.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:42:41 *** roadt__ [~roadt@114.96.128.206] has joined #openttd 23:58:20 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit []