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(www.adiirc.com)] 02:11:14 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 02:11:50 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 02:12:15 *** DarkAce-Z is now known as DarkAceZ 02:18:19 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:34:18 <ChubbyPitbull> For contributing patches, is there a status to set the bug in the bugtracker to in order to indicate a patch has been submitted, or just leave a message in openttd.dev and wait for review? 03:01:11 *** Speedy [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:47:42 <Eddi|zuHause> there is a "patch" status in the tracker 03:48:45 <Eddi|zuHause> if you post a new issue, you can select "patch" instead of "bug". otherwise just reply to the existing issue with your patch, a dev may or may not notice that :p 03:55:42 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 04:32:05 *** Speedy` [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has joined #openttd 04:32:13 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 04:54:36 *** Pecio [~fgh@abxw235.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6793C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:12 <dihedral> good morning 04:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5E10.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:27:25 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl6-252-81.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 05:31:30 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@199.68.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31:37 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl6-253-109.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:40:01 <maddy_> good morning all 06:08:52 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 06:26:19 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 06:34:33 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 06:35:23 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 06:43:24 *** Sacro [~ben@000127ee.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:43:49 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 07:01:33 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@host-95-199-197-6.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #openttd 07:06:30 *** DDR [~chatzilla@S01060019dbe06285.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 07:31:25 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-055-027.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 07:38:19 <planetmaker> moin 07:38:37 <V453000> hio :) 07:38:53 <V453000> how is your rainbow slug railway doing? :) 07:41:21 *** Zuu_ [~chatzilla@212.28.207.194] has joined #openttd 07:43:21 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:44:47 <planetmaker> it's very pleased. Slugs prefer wet and rainy weather. And it's raining cats and dogs right now 07:45:46 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@host-95-199-197-6.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:47:41 <V453000> :D 07:47:50 <V453000> they very much do :) 07:54:27 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 08:01:22 <dihedral> Zuu_, thank you for confirming a channel name on the .dev channel - sadly i already knew the channel name :-P 08:04:40 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-51.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:06:04 <LordAro> /o 08:08:53 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 08:18:11 *** montalvo [~montalvo@macbook60.icrar.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:24:04 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:27:38 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 08:27:39 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 08:28:16 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-179-100-196.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:45:56 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:02:29 *** Zuu_ is now known as Zuu 09:06:01 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 09:13:44 *** Zuu_ [~chatzilla@host-95-199-197-6.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #openttd 09:19:46 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@212.28.207.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:37:41 <__ln__> 'qapla! 09:49:26 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:50:40 *** Lord_Aro [~LordAro@host86-165-39-168.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:53:51 *** Zuu_ [~chatzilla@host-95-199-197-6.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:28 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:56:41 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-119-51.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:58:26 *** LordAro_ [~LordAro@host86-165-38-96.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:59:12 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:40 *** Lord_Aro [~LordAro@host86-165-39-168.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:44 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 10:09:24 <dihedral> __ln__, bless you 10:10:45 * MINM pelts __ln__ with tribbles 10:16:47 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 10:25:35 *** LordAro_ is now known as LordAro 10:27:47 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:28:43 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 10:29:58 <peter1138> How many average-size tribble pelts does it take to make an average-size coat? 10:31:26 <V453000> yes 10:31:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6DFDF.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:33:23 <MINM> Heh 10:33:30 <MINM> suddenly I have a brilliantly bad idea 10:33:37 <MINM> make a star trek inspired economy 10:33:55 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:33:55 <maddy_> how does that work? 10:34:29 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 10:37:00 <__ln__> at least they don't use money on the starships, but does it exist at all is another question. 10:39:03 <maddy_> depends on if you are Ferengi or not 10:39:49 <V453000> !logs 10:39:53 <V453000> !log 10:39:58 <V453000> pf 10:40:23 <__ln__> yes, true, i was talking about starfleet worlds only 10:40:39 *** montalvo [~montalvo@101.166.155.98] has joined #openttd 10:41:03 <__ln__> V453000: http://www.lindricklogs.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/logs1.jpg 10:43:38 <MINM> deuterium, deuranium, tribbles, datapads 10:50:59 <TinoDidriksen> V453000, I got channel logs, though not currently public - what're you looking for? 10:51:22 <V453000> :> nothing anymore, ty 10:51:37 <planetmaker> like... @logs 10:51:37 <V453000> I needed the thing __ln__ posted 10:51:41 <planetmaker> @logs 10:51:41 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd 10:52:58 <TinoDidriksen> So public logs are ok. I'll open mine then. 10:53:45 <planetmaker> no-one could be stopped to publish logs from this channel... 10:54:13 <V453000> .) for next time, ty pm 10:54:20 <TinoDidriksen> Of course not, but several public channels will kick+ban people who keep public logs, for some bizarre reason. 10:54:38 <V453000> lol 10:54:41 <V453000> really 10:54:41 <planetmaker> nah, not here 11:18:43 <ChubbyPitbull> good morning! 11:19:03 <V453000> good thursday 11:19:12 <dihedral> TinoDidriksen, and how would they find out? :-P 11:22:01 <TinoDidriksen> Google 11:22:08 <planetmaker> V453000, did you mean "good thirstday"? 11:22:15 <planetmaker> ;-) 11:22:18 <V453000> no :) 11:22:27 <planetmaker> oh, no beer then. sad 11:22:38 <V453000> mhm 11:23:48 <ChubbyPitbull> thursday?! someones way ahead or way behind 11:23:58 <V453000> vodka diet 11:24:02 <V453000> lose 3 days in 1 evening 11:24:34 <V453000> also I didnt say it is thursday? 11:31:46 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.126] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:15 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 11:38:10 <Eddi|zuHause> isn't "good thursday" an easter thing? 11:41:02 <planetmaker> true 11:42:11 <V453000> it is as relevant as good morning :P 11:42:17 <V453000> no clue about easter 11:43:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:44:20 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-055-027.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:45:15 <planetmaker> seems it's not Good Thursday. But Good Friday :D 11:45:23 <planetmaker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maundy_Thursday 11:49:20 <peter1138> Let's declare the 22nd of August 'Good Thursday' 11:49:23 <peter1138> Even when it's not Thursday. 11:49:52 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:50:31 <planetmaker> +1 11:50:44 <dihedral> TinoDidriksen, how would that help - you can find the logs, but you do not really get a chance to find out who publishes them 11:51:19 <TinoDidriksen> Fairly easy to compare join/part dates and presence with private logs. 11:51:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52:12 <planetmaker> unless the person stays here infinitely. And starts logging only later 11:52:27 <planetmaker> like... who would know it's from me when I suddenly start publishing logs? 11:52:58 <TinoDidriksen> Sure it's not foolproof, but you can also exclude anyone join/parting in the logs... 11:53:13 <TinoDidriksen> So, narrowing down is not that hard. 11:53:29 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-031-150-130-191.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 11:53:55 <planetmaker> anyway, they exist here for ages. And it's a public channel. So... well, why not? 11:53:56 <dihedral> i could have my bouncer run the logs :-) 11:54:14 <planetmaker> yes or the coop bouncer. or ... whatever :-) 11:54:22 <planetmaker> dorpsgek itself could 11:54:59 <planetmaker> actually... my client here could. It#s connected 24/7 basically 11:55:03 <TinoDidriksen> I think it's crazy to forbid logs of public channels, but that's apparently the norm on Freenode, so much so it is enshrined in the network policies to default to no public logging. 11:55:05 <dihedral> who is this guy actually: http://thegrebs.com/irc/openttd/2013/08/19 11:55:33 <dihedral> TinoDidriksen, so much for FREEnode :-D 11:56:08 <planetmaker> my bet is on SpBot ;-) 11:56:22 <TinoDidriksen> That log snippet is from roboboy 11:56:38 <dihedral> planetmaker, the logs from SpBot look differently though 11:57:00 <TinoDidriksen> Joined right before Speedy, hasn't parted since. Matches 100% 11:57:04 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:57:12 <peter1138> dihedral, mikegrb 11:57:38 <dihedral> thanks peter1138 11:57:43 <planetmaker> makes sense :-) 11:57:44 <V453000> BAN BAN BAN 11:57:48 <dihedral> you have answered a question i have had for many years now :-) 11:57:50 <planetmaker> hell, no 11:58:01 <dihedral> V453000 wants to be banned :-P 11:58:06 <V453000> @banme 11:58:09 <V453000> :( 11:58:10 <mikegrb> there's prettier ones at http://thegrebs.com:3000/ 11:58:16 <mikegrb> I need to finish it 11:58:27 <V453000> @kickme 11:58:31 <V453000> @solveproblem 11:58:31 <dihedral> TinoDidriksen, so much for your guess there 11:58:45 <planetmaker> V453000, I'd be careful with those commands ;-) 11:58:53 <V453000> :> iz the point 11:59:00 <V453000> !kickme 11:59:12 <V453000> which commands does dorpsgek take 11:59:12 <dihedral> mikegrb, neat, but i think i like the old ones a bit more :-) 11:59:13 <planetmaker> you know... they used to work... and people permabanned themselves that way 11:59:19 <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDD 11:59:23 <V453000> aye 12:00:21 <TinoDidriksen> Oh, I see, I was off by 5 minutes...would've been 00:37 for it to be roboboy. 12:00:54 <mikegrb> dihedral: but the code is soooo much prittier! 12:04:50 <dihedral> hehe 12:04:54 <dihedral> i can imagine that, yes 12:05:24 <V453000> code and pretty doesnt go together 12:05:28 <V453000> unless severely beered 12:05:35 <V453000> then it is just plain wtf 12:18:17 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:27:32 *** t1488t [~id@37.140.99.39] has joined #openttd 12:37:06 * roboboy wanders what the highlights were for 12:37:23 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/RAINBOWSLUGS.png this 12:39:09 *** montalvo [~montalvo@101.166.155.98] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 12:41:30 <maddy_> V453000: it's pretty colourful 12:42:01 <V453000> it iz 12:42:26 <maddy_> I'm not sure if I think that's good or bad thing, I'm just stating the obvious 12:42:55 <V453000> clearly good thing for me :) still, there are 2 versions of the train - rainbow and standard slug so you can use colourful or with 1 colour 12:43:56 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:44:15 <maddy_> is it NUTS or separate grf? 12:44:42 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:44:45 <V453000> NUTS 12:46:28 *** DunnoNL [~chatzilla@541FB1A7.cm-5-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:48:19 <DunnoNL> Hey. I've been playing on a server that uses some town growth newGRF but I can't figure out how it works or which of the newGRFs causes this behavior so I can't read the manual to figure it out. The town growth requirements are presented like this "Town is not growing: D/S/R: 2525/1205 PASS, 1192/3504/536 COAL ...". Does anyone know which newGRF this is so I can research how it works? 12:49:06 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 12:49:15 <Belugas> hello 12:49:30 <maddy_> have you viewed the enabled newgrfs list when you are connected to the server? 12:49:32 <planetmaker> hi, town growth is either a game script. Or the server is hacked and just pretends to be the version it says to be 12:49:43 <planetmaker> hi Belugas 12:49:53 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:50:14 <V453000> heyoo :) 12:50:26 <Belugas> hi hi guys :) 12:50:28 <planetmaker> and welcome back :-) 12:50:44 <Belugas> so cool... i can place faces and voices over those nicks now ! 12:50:49 <Belugas> thanks planetmaker 12:51:03 <Belugas> although i would love to get back to where i was ;) 12:51:04 <planetmaker> hehe, that makes the channel look different, eh? 12:51:14 <Belugas> quite, quite 12:51:31 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:52:08 <V453000> :) 12:52:08 <planetmaker> DunnoNL, there's a few town growth scripts available in online content. But then, the server could also use its own custom one. then all you can do is ask them whether you get it. 12:52:20 <V453000> got any photos somewhere btw Belugas ? :> 12:52:41 <planetmaker> DunnoNL, just load a savegame locally and check. It will tell you in the scripts settings 12:52:43 <DunnoNL> maddy_: Yes, but from the descriptions and settings I assume none of them are responsible for this behavior. 12:52:47 <Belugas> yup, still in my camera ;) 12:52:54 <planetmaker> DunnoNL, ... no 12:53:00 <DunnoNL> planetmaker: Good idea. Going to try that now. 12:53:12 <Belugas> thing is, i had very little time between the trip back and my family vacations 12:53:24 <planetmaker> :-) I'm quite looking forward to those, too! 12:53:58 <Belugas> and we were traveling a lot during those vacations 12:54:08 <Belugas> i will get them out this week 12:54:11 <Belugas> promised 12:54:28 <Belugas> although.. i'm not sure i took a lot during the party itself... 12:54:43 <Belugas> i think i had way more to shoot in Amsterdam 12:59:21 <DunnoNL> planetmaker: It says 'game script: (none)'. 12:59:32 <DunnoNL> I have uploaded a screenshot of the full list of newGRFs here: http://i.imgur.com/emhD3PG.gif 12:59:58 <maddy_> wow that's a long list 13:00:05 <planetmaker> a newGRF cannot change what you describe, DunnoNL 13:00:15 <planetmaker> thus the list is ... not what you want to look at 13:00:23 <DunnoNL> This is bizarre. 13:00:30 <planetmaker> ask the server owner 13:02:46 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 13:04:38 <DunnoNL> I did ask. Hoped it was a simple question and I could continue playing today. Thanks for the help :) 13:05:01 <planetmaker> so... what did s/he tell you? 13:05:20 <planetmaker> and yes... it's a simple question :-) 13:05:41 <DunnoNL> Nothing yet. He is notorious for rarely showing up. That's why I asked it here. 13:05:43 <planetmaker> the answer might not be simple, though ;-) 13:06:04 <DunnoNL> I was already making a screenshot of the town growth behavior, so I might just as well still share it: http://i.imgur.com/ZdPlEw1.gif 13:06:34 *** ChubbyPitbull^ [~oftc-webi@173-161-213-235-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #openttd 13:06:40 <V453000> LOL hiding company names 13:06:51 <planetmaker> :D 13:07:07 <DunnoNL> :$ 13:08:34 <DunnoNL> I don't care about mine, but not sure about other players. They probably wouldn't mind, but I'd rather not upset anyone and better be safe than sorry. OpenTTD community is a bit.. peculiar. 13:09:17 <planetmaker> is it? 13:09:26 <planetmaker> :-) 13:09:39 <planetmaker> what server do you play on, DunnoNL ? 13:10:02 <DunnoNL> Well, I heard about this development team being broken up and some cityscape stuff that is only for a very selective group of players. 13:10:46 <planetmaker> again: what server did you play that game on? 13:11:02 <planetmaker> that usually gives a good hint whether it's custom stuff or not :-) 13:11:24 <DunnoNL> http://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/ - Server 2. I love it. The combination of newGRFs and serious players makes it a lot of fun. 13:11:43 <V453000> SERIOUS PLAYERS :DDDDD 13:11:46 <V453000> ima shit my pants on the spot 13:11:53 <planetmaker> reddit... afaik it's a patched server 13:11:54 <DunnoNL> It's a custom built client. That's probably it :/ 13:12:02 <planetmaker> lool. And you tell us NOW? 13:12:09 <V453000> D: 13:12:13 <planetmaker> :S 13:12:17 <planetmaker> thanks for wasting my time 13:12:33 <Belugas> hehehe 13:12:38 <V453000> never help the dutch plague 13:12:42 <DunnoNL> You're welcome. No, seriously, I'm sorry. 13:12:43 <V453000> esp with name Dunno :P 13:12:51 <DunnoNL> Woohoo 13:12:55 <V453000> :D 13:13:14 <V453000> you have one free ticket for making fun of my name now :> 13:13:31 <planetmaker> you're know as Mr NUTS anyway, V453000 ;-) 13:13:42 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.157.220.119] has joined #openttd 13:13:55 <V453000> and purrr :(((((((((( 13:14:09 <planetmaker> first impression sticks, V453000 ;-) 13:14:12 <V453000> :D 13:14:24 <V453000> it is all related anyway, and its mental position is also quite similar 13:14:25 <planetmaker> purr purr 13:14:32 <V453000> slug slug 13:16:14 <Belugas> lovely crew :) 13:16:47 <planetmaker> I think Belugas doesn't yet know the rainbow purr ;-) 13:17:03 <ChubbyPitbull^> there's a rainbow purr?? 13:17:20 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/RAINBOWSLUGS.png yellow one here 13:17:38 <V453000> with the ultimate power of rainbow slugs 1209438 13:17:56 <ChubbyPitbull^> erhmergerd 13:18:12 *** Pecio [~fgh@abxw235.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:18:24 <V453000> no clue what that means but I guess you can describe it that way 13:21:48 <ChubbyPitbull^> lol 13:24:20 <Belugas> :) 13:24:50 <planetmaker> DunnoNL, but you should lobby that the server owners make use of the official OpenTTD. And put that functionality into a game script. As far as I see, that's perfectly feasible 13:26:10 <DunnoNL> All I know about the custom client is that it uses CargoDist for passengers and mail. I - and afaik many other players - love it. Would that be possible without the hacked client? 13:26:24 <planetmaker> yes 13:29:07 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd 13:29:49 <ChubbyPitbull^> AFAIK the game already uses cargo dist for passengers and mail, it's an advanced setting you can use, right? In fact I thought cargo dist was intended for passengers and mail, and it's a setting to turn it on for other cargo types lol. 13:30:46 <DunnoNL> As a casual player I am not bothered with the hacked client. I actually liked it because it implemented some awesome features (like being able to place signals on track with a train before the main client. What would be the benefit of using default client and scripts over this way? (I will need to provide arguments if I'm going to ask someone to spend a lot of time on it) 13:31:13 <planetmaker> the benefit is that users like you are not confused 13:31:51 <planetmaker> and it's less work for them. Bigger audience for them. Easier updates for them 13:32:01 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A3E8.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:32:26 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:35:29 <DunnoNL> Makes sense. The custom client makes it kinda hard for new players to join (but then again, this means only serious people willing to read join). I will suggest it. 13:36:33 <DunnoNL> Also, this is the CargoDist thing. This isn't default behaviour, is it? http://wiki.openttd.org/Passenger_and_cargo_distribution 13:37:34 <V453000> god forbid, indeed isnt default 13:38:10 <planetmaker> it's not switched on by default. But it's a setting like any other 13:38:16 <ChubbyPitbull^> Not default, but it's in teh stock client 13:38:18 <ChubbyPitbull^> err the 13:38:35 <planetmaker> (in the nightly openttd builds) 13:38:51 <ChubbyPitbull^> lol oo right sorry, the server I'm running with friends is using a nightly 13:39:44 <ChubbyPitbull^> On that nightly I can also place signals on track that has a train, if that' what you were also referring to Dunno. 13:40:52 <V453000> I think latest stable has that too 13:41:03 <ChubbyPitbull^> Belugas I submitted a patch to a bug you last touched 4 years ago lol. 13:41:22 <planetmaker> dunno really 13:42:00 <Belugas> 4 years ago? that long? 13:42:09 <Belugas> that's frightning... 13:42:23 <Belugas> waht is it? out of curiosity? 13:42:44 <DunnoNL> ChubbyPitbull I believe it was implemented in the stable version about half a year ago. So it is no longer a reason to use the hacked client, but I like to believe that the person that compiled it knows way more than I do and makes decisions on what to include that are good for the players. 13:43:26 <ChubbyPitbull^> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1640 13:45:56 <ChubbyPitbull^> I had some things I wanted to try to implement for OpenTTD, but following the crawl/walk/run philosophy I've been browsing the TODO list on the wiki lol 13:46:49 <ChubbyPitbull^> Roger that Dunno! Not sure why someone is hacking stuff into the client rather than submitting it for inclusion in the actual client, or not just making a newGRF for the new functionality if that was an option. 13:47:00 <ChubbyPitbull^> Unless it's just a way of mass beta testing changes before submitting patches lol 13:47:50 <Belugas> mmh... the only think I did was actually to clarify what the guy had in mind in his feature request 13:48:28 <Belugas> the EDIT part, that is... I closed it as INVALID, then (dunno why) reopened it 13:49:01 <DunnoNL> ChubbyPitbull Afaik the guy doesn't create stuff, he just compiled a client with a great mix of patches and stuff to make gameplay better. Everything in the client exists out there somewhere. The guy just put it together in a specific way for playing on his server. 13:50:41 <ChubbyPitbull^> Roger that Belugas. The bug was listed here http://wiki.openttd.org/Todo_list so I made a patch for it. It's only my second patch, so I wasn't sure what the process was after submitting a patch; whether I had to change a flyspray status, or PM someone 13:51:43 <ChubbyPitbull^> Figured I'd bug you since you had at least seen the bug at some point in your life lol. 13:53:15 <ChubbyPitbull^> Is there a more up-to-date requested features/TODO list for new people wanting to contribute? 13:54:23 <planetmaker> there isn't, sadly 13:54:37 <planetmaker> being in this channel is good though :D 13:54:52 <ChubbyPitbull^> Wooo! 13:55:14 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:55:21 <ChubbyPitbull^> lol 13:55:42 <Belugas> quite it is :) 13:55:54 <Belugas> that or the suggestions in forums 13:56:00 <ChubbyPitbull^> The coding guidelines you guys have in place made it fairly easy to jump into the code, a lot of it is very readable and easy to pick up what's going on. 13:56:03 <Belugas> althohg that is a bit of a joke 13:56:03 <ChubbyPitbull^> Roger that. 13:56:07 <ChubbyPitbull^> hahaha 13:56:24 <V453000> abit :)ú 13:56:28 <V453000> -ú 13:56:29 <ChubbyPitbull^> I was using the lists because I figured those were coming after a one-pass by developers or contributors saying "yeah this one makes kind of sense" 13:56:34 <Belugas> lovely code style indeed, thanks to Rubidium 13:56:47 <planetmaker> yes, that's why we created the lists 13:57:03 <maddy_> what the idea with DOS and Windows palettes in newgrfs, and ability to toggle them in the gui? when would/should I want to switch them? 13:57:06 <planetmaker> it takes more effort to review the patches though :D 13:57:13 <planetmaker> writing the list was easy in comparison 13:57:23 *** ChubbyPitbull is now known as Guest3777 13:57:23 *** ChubbyPitbull^ is now known as ChubbyPitbull 13:57:33 <ChubbyPitbull> There we go 13:57:42 <planetmaker> maddy_, history. Never use anything but DOS for new NewGRFs. Don#t change for existing ones in the newgrf config 13:57:51 <planetmaker> that's usually the best guide 13:58:08 <maddy_> planetmaker: ok 13:58:09 <planetmaker> for new NewGRFs as when you write them as author 13:58:31 <ChubbyPitbull> Ahh poop lost voice in .dev for changing nick 13:59:08 <V453000> PUNISHED 13:59:25 <ChubbyPitbull> My only code structure complaint so far is global o'er the land! Took a bit of reading around now and again to find the definitions and scoep for everything, MSVC 2010 is surprisingly helpful 13:59:31 <ChubbyPitbull> struck down! 14:00:00 <planetmaker> well... yes. They're defined in the headers where they are used 14:08:46 <peter1138> We should put everything into a class so that we can run multiple instances of the game in one process. 14:08:51 <peter1138> Or not. 14:09:04 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 14:10:51 <Belugas> one instance attached to each processor ;) 14:13:45 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@host-95-199-197-6.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #openttd 14:14:22 *** Zuu is now known as Guest3784 14:14:28 *** DunnoNL [~chatzilla@541FB1A7.cm-5-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]] 14:18:58 <ChubbyPitbull> Howdy Zuu 14:22:24 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 14:22:24 *** George is now known as Guest3788 14:22:24 *** George|2 is now known as George 14:24:36 *** Guest3784 [~chatzilla@host-95-199-197-6.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:52 <planetmaker> ChubbyPitbull, yes... #openttd.dev is often silent. We use it to discuss code only. And sometimes we do that also here instead of there 14:27:31 <planetmaker> we created that channel so that some discussions don't drown or are public in the first place but without too much interference from the more general chatter we sometimes have here 14:27:38 <ChubbyPitbull> Roger that 14:28:45 *** Guest3788 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:51 <Eddi|zuHause> <peter1138> We should put everything into a class so that we can run multiple instances of the game in one process. <-- well it would be really useful to be able to prepare the game context of a new game while the title game is still running. 14:32:56 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 14:54:44 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:09:50 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:35:31 *** frodus [~frodus_de@static243-243-8.mimer.net] has joined #openttd 15:48:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:49:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DFDF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:57:06 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:03:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A184AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:13:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:14:11 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@199.68.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 16:15:46 <maddy_> oh dead, my next task is writing the save/load handler, I hope you guys have made it easy for me 16:16:34 <planetmaker> depends... what needs saveload handling? 16:16:58 <maddy_> my signals 16:17:07 <maddy_> their logic 16:17:28 <planetmaker> if you just add additional stuff, usually no special care is needed with saveload 16:17:30 <planetmaker> it just works 16:17:55 <planetmaker> at least wrt settings or so 16:18:09 <maddy_> what about the savegame version? is it recommended to increment it or not? 16:18:45 <planetmaker> hm, I guess, yes 16:22:00 <TWerkhoven> o/ 16:32:05 <Rubidium> unless it becomes a new chunck ;) 16:33:32 <Terkhen> hello 16:35:28 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-031-150-130-191.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:39:46 <maddy_> what's a chunck? 16:56:20 <LordAro> chunk, i assume 17:01:02 *** frodus [~frodus_de@static243-243-8.mimer.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09:55 *** t1488t [~id@37.140.99.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:12:28 <Belugas> chun(c)k is a packet of bytes containing, in this context, configuration data 17:15:55 <scshunt> maddy_: ooh, new signals? what do they do? 17:18:32 <Xaroth|Work> they go either red or green 17:19:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DFDF.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:20:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DFDF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:21:25 <MINM> orly 17:21:59 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-179-100-196.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:22:47 <peter1138> hmm, how should i test if the viewport should be scrollable, just test the game mode variable? 17:24:39 <peter1138> heh, well that's silly 17:24:40 <peter1138> but works 17:35:45 <maddy_> scshunt: they are similar to programmed signals patch kind of 17:45:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25734 trunk/src/lang/afrikaans.txt (2013-08-19 17:45:09 UTC) 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:18 <DorpsGek> afrikaans - 21 changes by mulderpf 17:47:23 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:27 <peter1138> hmm... should i try making the OPENTTD letters refresh properly on the intro screen? :p 17:51:31 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-179-100-196.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:54:59 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:55:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:55:34 <Alberth> moin 17:55:49 <ChubbyPitbull> Howdy! 18:01:45 <planetmaker> @ports 18:01:45 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 18:12:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:12:17 <Wolf01> 'evening 18:12:55 <Alberth> hi hi 18:13:38 <ChubbyPitbull> howdy 18:21:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fca0f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:24:08 <frosch123> __ln__: just for the record: today's xkcd contains the word 'unicorn' at least twice 18:25:12 <planetmaker> lol 18:25:59 <frosch123> actualy misread unicode as one of them :s 18:26:48 <V453000> asci cat 18:32:52 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-031-150-130-191.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:34:13 *** zgrillo2004 [~zgrillo20@cpe-74-71-97-142.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:40:36 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@f052243208.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:42:37 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g231207042.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:58:39 <andythenorth> o/ 18:58:48 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:58:52 <Alberth> \o 19:05:56 <ChubbyPitbull> \o/ 19:10:14 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@212.112.47.66] has joined #openttd 19:10:52 *** Zuu is now known as Guest3816 19:11:46 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:38 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 19:44:42 *** zgrillo2004 [~zgrillo20@cpe-74-71-97-142.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: irc2go] 19:48:09 <SpComb> I should totally rewrite my irclogs some day 19:48:16 <SpComb> it's a miracle that they're still up and running :) 19:49:57 <SpComb> I'm still proud of the timezone support! Not sure how many users actually notice it, though :) 19:51:17 <LordAro> i think i've noticed at some point in the past :L 20:10:24 <NGC3982> Evening. 20:16:09 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:16:32 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:23 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:38 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:30:07 <ChubbyPitbull> Howdy! 20:30:10 <Eddi|zuHause> yay, finally got my mouse replaced \o/ 20:30:53 <andythenorth> does the cat chase it? 20:31:19 <Eddi|zuHause> usually not. the mouse cursor however... :) 20:31:28 <Alberth> its sleeping after eating the previous one :) 20:31:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D879.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:34:52 <Supercheese> Hmm, I can't find where the prop 24 nearby station name string gets the Town name added to it 20:35:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DFDF.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:07 <Eddi|zuHause> start at newgrf* where it checks prop 24 and backtrack from there? 20:36:08 <Supercheese> or is that incorporated in the grf file itself 20:36:16 * Supercheese has to check FIRS source 20:37:02 <Supercheese> Ah, it seems to be in the grf itself 20:37:07 <Supercheese> that would explain it, then :P 20:37:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i think there should be a {TOWNNAME} token 20:37:28 <Supercheese> That means I have to add the town name in the patch 20:37:30 <Supercheese> hmmm 20:39:38 <Eddi|zuHause> there should be a similar token in normal lang files 20:40:02 <Supercheese> Yeah, but the lang file stuff doesn't matter when I'm editing strings.cpp 20:40:24 *** Guest3816 [~chatzilla@212.112.47.66] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 20:40:25 <Eddi|zuHause> new keyboard feels totally weird, even though it's the same type as the old one... 20:40:47 <Belugas> not the same "touch", i guess :) 20:40:55 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: just add a string {TOWNNAME} {INDUSTRYNAME} 20:41:07 <Belugas> or is it that you actaully can see the letters now? hahahah! 20:41:08 <Supercheese> How would I do that? 20:41:12 <Eddi|zuHause> and then set both via SetDParam 20:41:14 * Belugas goes home 20:41:43 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: just check how it's done in the industry list? 20:41:55 <Eddi|zuHause> or the industry window? 20:42:19 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: i seriously doubt strings.cpp is the place to change, anyway 20:42:34 <Supercheese> It is, frosch helped me see that earlier 20:42:46 <Supercheese> prop 24 nearby station name is an odd case 20:43:39 <Supercheese> industry type is stored as a reference, then strings.cpp sorts out the actual name 20:43:45 <Supercheese> I still don't really get it 20:44:29 <frosch123> iirc you just want to replace the stationame with the industry name 20:44:53 <frosch123> so, do not append the industrytype or townname, just use the industry name directly 20:45:03 <Supercheese> {TownName} {IndustryName} 20:45:10 <frosch123> hmm, though that might give you the wrong town for the station :p 20:45:42 <Supercheese> Ah, now I just have to figure out where the "full" industry name variable is 20:45:53 <Supercheese> indsp->name has no town name 20:46:40 <andythenorth> parent town? 20:46:47 <andythenorth> related item 20:46:57 * andythenorth is guessing 20:46:58 <Supercheese> st->town + indsp->name throws errors 20:47:16 * andythenorth bed 20:47:17 <andythenorth> bye 20:47:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 20:48:38 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd 20:48:50 * Supercheese wonders why there is both base_station_base.h and station_base.h 20:49:36 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:39 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:51:43 <Eddi|zuHause> one is for all stations and the other for railway stations? 20:51:48 <Supercheese> Perhaps a better idea would be to insert a {TownName} param to the string, but I don't know how to do that 20:52:43 <LordAro> night all 20:52:50 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-38-96.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:54:16 <Supercheese> I'd rather not edit english.txt 20:56:07 <Supercheese> Hmm, let's try STR_FORMAT_INDUSTRY_NAME 20:56:26 <planetmaker> nothing wrong with changing english.txt when making source code patches 20:56:47 <Supercheese> Well, what I'm trying to do really should be able to use existing strings 20:57:05 <Supercheese> or rather, parameters 20:57:51 <Supercheese> Now time for compiling: http://xkcd.com/303/ 20:59:43 <Supercheese> STR_FORMAT_INDUSTRY_NAME does not work at all 21:00:24 <Supercheese> perhaps because I seem to be dealing with string IDs rather than actual strings? 21:01:26 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:57 <Supercheese> guess I should SetDParams 21:10:04 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: gone!] 21:10:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A184AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10:05 <Supercheese> this is ridiculous 21:10:26 <Supercheese> later 21:10:28 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.126] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130730113002]] 21:11:27 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fca0f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:14:54 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:21:34 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-112-183.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:23:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D879.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:50 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A3E8.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:27:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50:24 *** ChubbyPitbull is now known as Guest3826 21:50:24 *** Guest3777 is now known as ChubbyPitbull 21:50:58 <Wolf01> 'night 21:51:03 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:52:02 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:32:36 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:45:55 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 23:06:41 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:15:54 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:39:49 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 23:43:51 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:44:02 <SamanthaD> \o 23:51:44 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-031-150-130-191.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit []