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[www.adiirc.com]] 06:04:01 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 06:29:42 *** frodus [~frodus_de@mail.offsim.no] has joined #openttd 06:29:50 *** frodus [~frodus_de@mail.offsim.no] has quit [] 06:31:19 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 06:37:53 <dihedral> good morning 06:37:55 * dihedral yawns 06:39:26 <maddy_> morning 06:47:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:47:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 06:55:36 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:59:39 *** DDR [~chatzilla@S01060019dbe06285.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 07:15:05 *** Pecio [~fgh@agac237.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 07:16:03 *** rellig [~rellig@argon247.server4you.de] has joined #openttd 07:18:11 *** rellig [~rellig@argon247.server4you.de] has quit [] 07:39:19 *** zooks_ [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 07:47:01 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:01:28 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:13:17 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]] 09:02:36 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-195-252.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:05:56 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:06:13 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 09:07:38 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:11:41 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:12:49 <retro|cz> Hello. Is there any chance how to change email for my openttd.org account (including FlySpray) ? 09:13:35 <retro|cz> And maybe realname also. 09:17:33 <planetmaker> retro|cz, send an e-mail to info@ with old info, and desired new info. I can then see later this week what can be done 09:19:53 *** montalvo [~montalvo@78.40.152.129] has joined #openttd 09:20:45 <retro|cz> planetmaker, sent 09:21:10 <retro|cz> planetmaker, thanks 09:21:47 <retro|cz> planetmaker, this is very low priority. Don't waste time with that. 09:23:50 *** ntx [~ntx@a88-115-29-236.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:24:24 <retro|cz> planetmaker, I'm also programmer. Maybe I can help with implementing this into website. I'll take a little like into openttd/extra/website.git 09:27:59 <dihedral> <retro|cz> planetmaker, this is very low priority. Don't waste time with that. <- they would not :-D 09:31:16 <planetmaker> :-) 09:31:49 <planetmaker> I agree, I do believe that changing one's own account is one of the missing things at our website 09:32:12 <planetmaker> Not 100% sure how far you get with what's in our repo - though I believe that stuff is all there (except the DB, of course) 09:34:09 *** ntx [~ntx@a88-115-29-236.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:38:12 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-195-252.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:46:05 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-195-252.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:48:37 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:56:13 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-36-165.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:56:58 <retro|cz> planetmaker, hmm. I can't find db skeleton (or any db schema). 09:57:43 <retro|cz> And I found first bug. I sent patch to flyspray. 09:58:52 <LordAro> /o 10:01:05 <Xaroth|Work> retro|cz: the website repo requires a lot more work tbqfh 10:02:07 <retro|cz> Xaroth, so it's not easy to run dev. version locally now? 10:02:16 <retro|cz> I have Django, LDAP and MySQL installed locally. 10:02:50 <Xaroth|Work> LDAP is finnicky 10:04:32 <retro|cz> Xaroth, version or setup? 10:04:47 <Xaroth|Work> getting the same schema as openttd uses 10:07:00 <retro|cz> And can't it be exported (only schema, not data) ? 10:07:13 <retro|cz> And be part of that repo for easier dev. setup? 10:07:45 <retro|cz> And same problem is probably for MySQL basic schema and basic seed. 10:07:56 <Xaroth|Work> django doesn't do sql schema 10:08:13 <Xaroth|Work> it creates it when asked to 10:22:34 <retro|cz> What Django is needed? I have 1.5.2 installed. 10:25:26 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g229089042.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:31:17 <retro|cz> Xaroth, I'm getting weird errors. Is there any readme how to setup basic dev. env? 10:31:38 <retro|cz> For example I need to remove PROJECT_NAME + '.' for installed apps. 10:31:58 <retro|cz> Basically everything what is prefixed with PROJECT_NAME can't be loaded. When I remove that prefix, it is ok. 10:47:46 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:47:56 *** montalvo is now known as plane 10:48:14 *** plane is now known as montalvo 10:51:15 *** montalvo [~montalvo@78.40.152.129] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 10:53:18 <Xaroth|Work> retro|cz: it's not using 1.5.2, that's for sure 10:53:26 <Xaroth|Work> I'd start at 0.9 and work your way up 10:53:33 <retro|cz> Xaroth, oki, thanks 10:54:14 <Xaroth|Work> but chances are you're lacking some basic plugins 10:54:22 <Xaroth|Work> which will cause it to fail regardless of the version 10:57:34 <maddy_> dihedral is your site down? (openttd.dihedral.de) 11:17:14 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-195-252.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:18:36 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-195-252.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:19:44 <retro|cz> Xaroth, yup I had. For example ldap python library. But that problem with PROJECT_NAME wasn't related to this. Probably to bad Django version. I'll try to use older later. 11:21:08 <retro|cz> It should use pip requirements for example to handle dependencies. 11:22:30 <SpComb> django fixed their previously crazy import paths 11:23:55 <SpComb> although that should go the other way, with you needing to add the project name to imports 11:32:24 <Xaroth|Work> retro|cz: I doubt that bit of code is actively maintained tbh 11:33:15 <SpComb> porting an old django project to a modern django version can take a bit of work 11:33:24 <SpComb> staticfiles etc 11:33:48 <Xaroth|Work> I'd say it'd be faster to rebuild it :P 11:34:36 <planetmaker> if you want to port it, port it to python3 11:34:44 <Xaroth|Work> wait what? 11:35:11 <planetmaker> then it's feasible to adjust eints as new web translator. It requires python3 11:35:35 <Xaroth|Work> port it to 2.7 and make sure the 2to3 tool can migrate it for py3k use :) 11:35:48 <Xaroth|Work> 3to2 is a lot more annoying than 2to3 11:37:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A331.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:38:04 <dihedral> <maddy_> dihedral is your site down? (openttd.dihedral.de) < has been for years, why do you ask? 11:38:08 <dihedral> what are you looking for? 11:43:08 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd 11:44:10 <maddy_> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=32659 11:44:27 <maddy_> maybe you could update that post if it is no longer available, or if links are no longer up to date? 11:44:58 <dihedral> that thing is from 2007 11:45:01 <dihedral> ... Sir! 11:48:17 <maddy_> well, yeah, that doesn't tell me it's no longer available though 11:48:26 <maddy_> is it btw? 11:50:56 <dihedral> it's not available, as i said, has not been for years now 11:51:36 <dihedral> and i will not go around updating all my posts from 6 years ago 12:00:26 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 12:01:10 <alluke> permission denied when trying to ./configure ottd source 12:02:51 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [] 12:03:18 <maddy_> dihedral: well I understand you don't want to update all your posts, sure, but if you have released something for the community, is that too much trouble to update only *those* posts? and btw add only one line notification or something 12:08:33 <dihedral> maddy_, do you really think it is worth the hassle trying to convince someone you cannot convince? 12:08:55 <maddy_> convince who, of what? 12:09:14 <dihedral> you are trying to tell me to update something i will not update 12:09:18 <dihedral> a post from 2007 12:09:23 <dihedral> forget it 12:09:38 <maddy_> not a big deal for me, either way 12:09:51 <dihedral> then why even bother? 12:13:51 <dihedral> there we go - back to silence mode :-) 12:17:01 <maddy_> my point is that if I see a link for something, and it is down, I have to log on irc and ask you personally...your server could have gone down say 5 minutes ago, without you knowing, so I want to ask you about it, in case it should be up 12:18:47 <dihedral> if there was a dns entry for openttd.dihedral.de ok - but there is none 12:19:41 <peter1138> lol @ alluke 12:20:55 <TWerkhoven> ello 12:21:00 <Xaroth|Work> sup twerk 12:24:20 <TWerkhoven> just back from work 12:25:15 <TWerkhoven> had a look at that double-disconnect issue yet? i've put a workaround in soap just now 12:35:32 <Xaroth|Work> nope 12:35:36 <Xaroth|Work> been working too much :| 12:35:54 *** fjb is now known as Guest6069 12:35:56 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:40:00 *** Guest6069 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:53:17 *** gynter [gynter@kits.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:56 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-195-252.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:56:07 <maddy_> dihedral: yeah, I did not check for a dns entry, and I don't want to assume some link should not work just because it's dated 2007 12:57:41 *** gynter [gynter@kits.ee] has joined #openttd 13:00:53 *** Pecio [~fgh@agac237.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:03:15 <dihedral> maddy_, your browser gives you a hint! 13:03:18 <dihedral> ;-) 13:07:43 *** DanMacK [~Cyclone29@node-1660.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has joined #openttd 13:08:51 <DanMacK> Hey all 13:30:36 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-195-252.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:49:45 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 13:51:00 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.100.46] has joined #openttd 13:53:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 13:56:57 *** DanMacK [~Cyclone29@node-1660.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:32:08 <retro|cz> Xaroth|Work, since you think web code is unmaintained, is any chance to get this deployed http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5744 ? 14:32:36 <retro|cz> Xaroth, or reviewed, merged, ... 14:34:15 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:20 <Xaroth|Work> that part is easy, adding new functionality to it, might prove difficult 14:37:28 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 14:38:10 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 14:39:54 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 14:46:51 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:37 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 15:06:16 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.100.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:07:43 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.50] has joined #openttd 15:12:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:17:48 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:24:06 <V453000> XD planetmaker envy me! :D http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/I_WIN.png 15:27:13 <Rubidium> so... there's a public list of banned people? 15:27:22 <V453000> list of me 15:27:24 <V453000> :> 15:27:27 * V453000 feels special 15:27:27 <Eddi|zuHause> very... medieval 15:27:41 <peter1138> Oh, SAC is American? 15:27:45 <V453000> Eddi|zuHause: why medieval 15:27:50 <Eddi|zuHause> http://dailypicture.yakohl.com/pic/pranger_1012010.jpg 15:27:54 <V453000> we also have honorary members 15:27:59 <V453000> I feel promoted by this 15:28:13 <TWerkhoven> lol 15:28:31 <V453000> not to mention that her claims about copyright whatnot are laughably untrue and she knows it 15:28:39 <V453000> if it is "her" actually ... 15:28:48 <V453000> might be "him" from certain sources 15:29:53 <peter1138> Who cares. 15:30:57 <V453000> exactly 15:31:10 * peter1138 is slightly confused as to who is allowed to 'use' US laws. 15:31:27 <peter1138> I guess Dropbox is USian. 15:32:25 <peter1138> Stolen_Trees-1.tar < should I delete that? 15:32:39 <V453000> yes from all computers all over the world please 15:32:55 <V453000> also remove the original license in case it is allowing anything 15:34:02 <peter1138> It says CC BY-NC-ND 3.0 15:34:14 <V453000> which obviously allows redistribution 15:34:26 <V453000> so yeah 15:34:28 <peter1138> Not if it's wrong. 15:35:09 <V453000> I dont think she is having problems with "how" anybody distributes it 15:35:16 *** DanMacK [~chatzilla@node-1660.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has joined #openttd 15:35:45 <Eddi|zuHause> german copyright has a paragraph that allows you to revoke licenses for some vaguely specified "personal opinion" reason 15:36:23 <DanMacK> Hey all 15:36:51 <peter1138> Hi DanMacK. Who are you hiding from? :D 15:37:24 <peter1138> Hmm 15:37:27 <DanMacK> nobody, my MIRC is being a bitch lol 15:37:37 <peter1138> Or tor is Toronto... not The Onion Router... 15:37:48 <DanMacK> Toronto :P 15:37:58 <peter1138> I iz clevah 15:38:04 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/urhg/__42.html 15:38:51 <Eddi|zuHause> but that means they can't distribute it to ANYONE anymore, or they have to re-give permission to the person they revoked it from 15:39:49 *** Hendrick_ [~Hendrick@212.93.100.46] has joined #openttd 15:42:56 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:44:20 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g229089042.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:16 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:45:17 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g229089042.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:53:53 *** Miauw [~Miauw@d54C14D72.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:53:59 <Miauw> So, I have another question... 15:54:11 <Miauw> Is there a way to load goods from one vehicle to another? 15:55:12 <Pinkbeast> Only by way of a station. 15:55:16 <DanMacK> Transfer order at a station 15:55:26 <Miauw> Oh, alright. 16:06:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:51 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:14:27 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.114.21.53] has joined #openttd 16:15:50 <Terkhen> hello 16:17:33 <retro|cz> hello 16:26:27 *** DanMacK [~chatzilla@node-1660.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]] 16:27:58 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:38:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B15E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:40:14 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f41e3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:54:15 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:54:18 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:55:53 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:58:05 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@f052085035.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:04:38 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AC87.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:04:56 *** zooks_ [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:05:16 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g229089042.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:19:10 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:22:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B15E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26:42 <retro|cz> frosch123, hello 17:27:09 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@87.114.21.53] has joined #openttd 17:28:06 <frosch123> moin 17:28:56 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.114.21.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:56 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 17:31:51 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:40:19 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25756 trunk/src/lang/indonesian.txt (2013-09-09 17:45:12 UTC) 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:18 <DorpsGek> indonesian - 2 changes by UseYourIllusion 18:11:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:17:16 <retro|cz> planetmaker, is this correct frosch123? 18:23:39 *** Hendrick_ [~Hendrick@212.93.100.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:35:16 <Alberth> instead of highlighting everybody, why don't explain your problem in general here? 18:39:33 <Xaroth|Work> I have the answer: http://i.imgur.com/cv172Rp.jpg 18:45:28 <Rubidium> Xaroth|Work: interesting universe 18:51:30 <Xaroth|Work> Rubidium: then, for you, a pygmy owl: http://i.imgur.com/KPrV6d1.jpg 18:52:43 <Rubidium> Xaroth|Work: interesting because the 'babies' are getting smaller than their 'parents' 18:53:28 <Rubidium> hence, interesting universe 18:53:56 <Xaroth|Work> Rubidium: that too :) 18:54:24 <Miauw> ... 18:54:28 <Miauw> Is there any way to cheat in a new factory? 18:54:34 <LordAro> Xaroth|Work: cuuuttee!! :3 18:54:39 <Miauw> I just set up a rather large industrial chain to feed a factory. 18:54:46 <Miauw> And the factory promptly decided to dissapear. 18:54:58 <LordAro> cheat yourself some money 18:55:08 <LordAro> fund new industry 18:55:13 <Miauw> Can I choose where? 18:55:18 <retro|cz> Miauw, yup 18:55:30 <Miauw> Yay 18:55:33 <LordAro> if you haven't changed the setting to prospecting, yes 18:58:04 <Miauw> Muh, it was time to end that game anyway >.> 18:58:07 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:44 *** fjb is now known as Guest6103 18:59:45 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:25 *** Guest6103 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:07 <Xaroth|Work> LordAro: :) 19:10:57 *** Miauw [~Miauw@d54C14D72.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:17:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:28:42 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.17.97.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 19:30:39 <Djohaal> harro 19:33:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B15E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:34:19 <Alberth> o/ 19:34:56 <Djohaal> just a question, is does the ECS pack have its source going around? Development has stopped since 2011 and I'm worried we might lose it if TTD loses backward compat D: 19:35:55 *** roadt__ [~roadt@114.96.140.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:36:39 <oskari89> George might know? 19:41:29 <Djohaal> oh george is still around 19:41:33 <Djohaal> herp 19:41:45 <Djohaal> I thought it was one of those cases of the creator going MIA in vietnam or something :p 19:42:15 <andythenorth> no george is still around 19:42:16 <andythenorth> and active 19:42:24 <Djohaal> sweet 19:43:57 <Djohaal> I found one issue with it tho, the construction branch doesn't have toggles for infinite mines and such 19:58:52 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25757 extra/website/frontpage/templates/frontpage/development.html (2013-09-09 19:58:50 UTC) 19:58:53 <DorpsGek> [website] -Fix [FS#5744]: broken link in development section (retro) 20:00:03 <frosch123> Djohaal: george is mainly working on the xussr trainset 20:00:16 <Djohaal> ahh 20:00:23 <Djohaal> I saw it, looks sweet 20:00:37 <Alberth> sure that is not done that way by design? (no idea, but I could imagine that to happen) 20:01:15 <Djohaal> given all other branches allow for infinite mines, I assume some slip 20:01:52 <Alberth> seems likely 20:04:37 <__ln__> is this grammatical: http://i.imgur.com/QNAlr0S.jpg 20:19:31 *** gynterk [gynter@kits.ee] has joined #openttd 20:19:37 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:19:46 *** gynter [gynter@kits.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:05 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AC87.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 20:23:00 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 20:24:40 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:45 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:36 <TinoDidriksen> __ln__, yes, but probably not with the meaning they intended. "be sat" implies someone else forcefully sitting them down. Should be "sit" or more correctly "be sitting" 20:40:43 <Djohaal> I'm getting a client disconnecting from my server (nightly build) due to "processing map too long" 20:42:07 *** DanMacK [~63ffa3b9@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:44:12 <Bad_Brett> hey danmack 20:44:25 <DanMacK> Hey Brett, how goes it? 20:44:37 <Alberth> Djohaal: http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_multiplayer#People_get_disconnected_while_joining.2C_how_to_fix_that.3F is probably useful 20:44:42 <Djohaal> abh herp 20:44:43 <Djohaal> thanks 20:45:41 <Bad_Brett> great, thank you :-) 20:49:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B15E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:40 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:51:42 <Bad_Brett> why do i listen to linux users? 20:52:08 <LordAro> because we're awesome? 20:52:09 <andythenorth> never listen to linux users if you are on OS X 20:52:27 <Bad_Brett> i'm on windows xp 20:52:44 <andythenorth> I listened to someone here once, put aside 10 years of OS X experience, and then had to rebuild my development environment for ~2 days :P 20:52:53 <Bad_Brett> haha 20:55:51 * planetmaker whistles innocently :D 20:56:07 <planetmaker> but I never know which advice andy takes and which not ;-) 20:56:23 <Bad_Brett> :D 20:57:34 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:13 <andythenorth> planetmaker: wasn't you ;) 20:59:28 <planetmaker> :D 21:06:13 <Eddi|zuHause> <TinoDidriksen> __ln__, yes, but probably not with the meaning they intended. "be sat" implies someone else forcefully sitting them down. Should be "sit" or more correctly "be sitting" <- i'd put a "that" in there as well, but that might just be my german mind projecting grammar into it. 21:06:42 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 21:12:50 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:13:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:13:32 *** DanMacK [~63ffa3b9@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:17:19 <Bad_Brett> what the hell... i rewrote my code and everything works perfectly, but when i concatenate the pnml files a "" is added at the end of the file, which nmlc won't accept 21:17:52 <Bad_Brett> time to rtfm 21:18:08 <juzza1> Zorro has invaded your computer 21:19:51 <Bad_Brett> and he adds end of file characters to all my files 21:19:55 <Bad_Brett> the horror! 21:21:30 <Bad_Brett> there... solved 21:21:39 <Bad_Brett> rtfm did the trick 21:24:00 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:40:07 <wakou2> In the north of England 'to be sat at home' is perfectly correct. I have heard "he were sat sitting" as well. English usage varies. 21:42:51 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 21:47:16 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6C63E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:51:30 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:57:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A331.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:57 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-36-165.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:56 <Djohaal> also 22:15:06 <Djohaal> why I do I love the fact that when you have a horse carriage and it breaks down it lets out a smoke plume :P 22:15:56 <frosch123> it's not smoke 22:15:59 <frosch123> look closer 22:16:08 <frosch123> or better: don't 22:16:12 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:18:57 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 22:24:13 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i find the sound it makes way more interesting :p 22:30:17 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:30:42 <Eddi|zuHause> NSA: "No, we're not doing industrial espionage, we just want to know ahead of time when the next economical crisis hits" 22:40:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f41e3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:43:28 <Djohaal> hmm 22:43:30 <Djohaal> question 22:43:39 <Djohaal> say I have a group of trains with the same order 22:43:48 <Djohaal> how can I quickly change all those orders to another set 22:53:48 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd 22:56:39 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to make "shared orders" (click "go to" and then ctrl+click on another train) 22:57:16 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 22:57:24 <Eddi|zuHause> after that. all changes you make to one train, will automatically be done for the other train as well 22:58:38 <Eddi|zuHause> likewise, if you clone a train, you can ctrl+click to make the new train automatically have shared orders 22:59:49 <Djohaal> aha 22:59:51 <Djohaal> control click 23:00:22 <Eddi|zuHause> ctrl activates a lot of hidden features 23:00:32 <Bad_Brett> can you have different breakdown animations for different vehicles? 23:01:01 <Bad_Brett> because i always imagined that my horses would stop randomly to eat some hay :-) 23:01:24 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: i don't think so. requires newgrf effect vehicles 23:02:04 <Eddi|zuHause> which iirc is in a "someone should write a spec" phase 23:03:39 <Bad_Brett> yeah, but for newgrf's... 23:03:51 <Bad_Brett> the vehicle_is_broken could be used i guess 23:04:29 <Eddi|zuHause> "effect vehicles" is everything that is smoke and some more stuff 23:04:58 <Bad_Brett> i have no idea what that is 23:05:06 <Eddi|zuHause> steam puffs, breakdown smoke, industry smoke 23:05:56 <Bad_Brett> oh yeah, but that's still on the drawing table, right? 23:06:05 <Eddi|zuHause> in certain events, the game creates these vehicles 23:06:12 <Eddi|zuHause> but this is currently hardcoded 23:06:37 <Bad_Brett> yeah, that's what i thought 23:07:02 <Djohaal> hmm 23:07:05 <Bad_Brett> but in the meantime, i guess we could just switch the spriteset when the vehicle breaks down? 23:07:11 <Eddi|zuHause> so even if you had a "broken down" variable which you check in your newgrf, you can't disable the smoke 23:07:11 <Djohaal> well let's say I have a group of trains with shared orders 23:07:18 <Djohaal> how can I grab one train and make its orders unique 23:07:33 <Bad_Brett> i can't disable the smoke? 23:07:46 <Eddi|zuHause> Djohaal: click the line that says "end of shared orders" and delete that 23:07:52 <Djohaal> leave the smoking horses. They funny D: 23:07:58 <Bad_Brett> what about the "TRAIN_FLAG_NO_BREAKDOWN_SMOKE" flag? 23:08:14 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: oh, haven't seen that before 23:09:06 <Bad_Brett> my idea was basically to activate that flag on covered wagons, and change the spriteset instead 23:09:56 <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: maybe that works... 23:10:14 <Bad_Brett> i don't think i have tried it 23:10:39 <Bad_Brett> maybe i should do a test grf 23:11:41 <Bad_Brett> by the way, do you know if there's some variable that can be used for animations when the vehicle is stopped? 23:11:58 <Bad_Brett> would be useful for loading/unloading as well 23:12:58 <Eddi|zuHause> no idea 23:15:03 <Bad_Brett> hmm 23:26:03 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:57 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 23:48:13 <Djohaal> also 23:48:16 <Djohaal> for the million dollar question 23:48:21 <Djohaal> when will GUI resizing be a thing? D: