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00:23:15 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-150.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:58 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-51-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:33:11 <supermop> hi 00:50:13 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:50:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:51:21 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 01:07:48 *** fjb is now known as Guest426 01:07:50 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:14:46 *** Guest426 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:50:28 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:13:22 *** frodus [~frodus_de@mail1.farstadsimulation.com] has joined #openttd 02:19:09 *** frodus [~frodus_de@mail1.farstadsimulation.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:44:55 *** Jap-mobile [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 02:45:04 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:16:03 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 03:16:03 *** George is now known as Guest435 03:16:03 *** George|2 is now known as George 03:20:20 *** Guest435 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:22 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:27:20 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@g229175156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:51:10 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-51-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66B9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67E8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:24:02 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.114.21.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:33:25 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 05:35:46 *** Pecio [~fgh@abzt150.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 05:42:14 *** Jap-mobile [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:04:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B463.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:15:04 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]] 07:03:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:14:45 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 07:25:56 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:28:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:34:26 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-150.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:34:49 <LordAro> /o 08:12:33 <planetmaker> moin 08:15:29 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:30:00 <V453000> mu 08:30:17 <V453000> I murdered around 70k sprites yesterday along with 40k lines of code XD 08:30:19 <V453000> progress 08:30:40 <V453000> looks nicer and compiles (MUCH :D) faster :> 08:31:23 <LordAro> yayz :D 08:32:16 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 08:32:43 <planetmaker> :D you killer, you! tremblez in fear ;-) 08:34:19 <V453000> I figured having 17 colours of all wagons with 9 loading stages, while the colours were barely distinguishable from each other -and almost nobody used the engine anyway - was no the best option XD 08:34:27 <V453000> not running out of IDs now :> 08:34:29 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:37:08 <planetmaker> he 08:48:00 <LordAro> oh god, i've just made a std::map that contains "{'1', 0}," among others :L 08:50:19 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 08:56:31 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 08:58:45 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-186-143-169.range86-186.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:12:41 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:20:36 <LordAro> winning broken if statement of the week: "if (s.length() != 2 || s.length() != 3)" 09:21:09 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-13-34.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:26:06 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:31:12 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 09:43:29 *** frodus [~frodus_de@mail1.farstadsimulation.com] has joined #openttd 09:53:11 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.252.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:53:48 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-252-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 09:56:02 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-252-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:56:32 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-252-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 10:02:04 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-41-249.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:05:42 *** frodus [~frodus_de@mail1.farstadsimulation.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:05:42 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:06:02 * Pikka blames orudge 10:06:22 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.134.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:06:30 <V453000> hy byrd :) 10:08:21 <Pikka> hy vye 10:08:45 <Pikka> ow's tings? 10:12:12 <V453000> 1.5 nuts birthday next week :) 10:12:37 <Pikka> aw nutz 10:13:04 <V453000> biiiig release coming today or on sunday :) 10:13:30 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 10:14:32 <Pikka> four i's big! 10:14:37 <Pikka> tres big! 10:14:39 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-186-143-169.range86-186.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 10:16:43 <V453000> ayyy 10:19:57 <Pikka> siiii 10:21:02 <oskari89> TS2014 is out now, if someone is intrested :) 10:22:49 <oskari89> Just testing Class 70 + 20 loaded hoppers on Marias Pass 10:24:55 <oskari89> Out of place that consist, but its fun 10:26:13 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 10:35:04 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:37:03 *** Dozer [Dozer@0x5e912f54.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 10:52:45 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-150.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:05:27 <V453000> only <10 updates on bananas during septembor? 11:05:30 <V453000> dying 11:08:19 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-150.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:18:26 <oskari89> There will soon be 2 more :P 11:19:21 * Pikka may be getting back into it anon 11:19:53 <Pikka> I just got back from Venice this morning, so expect vaporetti-heavy boat grfs. :P 11:20:04 <V453000> :D 11:20:55 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:54 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has joined #openttd 11:27:29 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:05:55 *** tmsft [~id@37.140.124.50] has joined #openttd 12:06:24 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 12:12:49 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:16:01 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has joined #openttd 12:16:14 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-252-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:16:38 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-252-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 12:24:54 <Dozer> Does anyone know, how I change the folder for where the autosave is stored? 12:26:13 <V453000> why would you do that :d 12:29:10 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:29:55 <Dozer> V453000 I play the same savegame on several computers, depending on where I am. So just want it to save it to the cloud, so I always have it with me automtically. 12:30:12 <V453000> XD 12:30:50 <V453000> well you could move the whole openttd folder to e.g. dropbox I assume 12:31:35 <Dozer> nah 12:35:48 <V453000> thing is, when loading, you would have to either copy the savegame, or browse through openttd to navigate to that folder 12:36:09 <V453000> so saving it manually when leaving home/work/where-ever is probably equally demanding 12:39:50 <planetmaker> you can re-compile the game from modified sources ;-) Or read section 4.2. OpenTTD operates relative the the openttd.cfg which can be in the places as described in the aforementioned readme section 12:40:06 <planetmaker> if needed, use symlinks. If you OS / FS doesn't support them, get a better one 12:40:17 <dihedral> you can simply use the sync tool provided by the cloud provider in order to keep your autosave / save games up to date 12:41:09 <planetmaker> "good day, is there NSA headquarters? I lost a savegame due to some accident. From Sunday, around 17h local time. could you please restore it?" 12:41:10 <planetmaker> :D 12:41:59 <V453000> they dont monitor .sav files after they opened mine 12:41:59 <V453000> :P 12:42:26 <planetmaker> they monitor sav files because they opened yours. 12:42:35 <planetmaker> ;-) 12:43:04 <juzza1> create an autosave folder at the cloud and symlink it to each openttd installation. _should_ work 12:43:12 <dihedral> hidden messages in openttd :-P lol 12:43:47 <planetmaker> steganographic landscape 12:45:12 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:47:42 <V453000> :( 12:47:53 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 12:48:59 <tdammers> you know, it would actually be genuinely cool if some judge would make NSA hand you your data on demand, turning them into the world's largest backup service 12:49:06 <tdammers> not gonna happen though 12:50:42 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:48 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:51:57 <planetmaker> there's no "make them do". Only "make it too expensive and difficult for them" 12:55:10 <Eddi|zuHause> there was this guy of the "not-embassy" of west germany in east berlin, who locked himself out, so he knocked at the other side of the road and asked the Stasi guys who did surveillance on him whether they could open his door, since they have a key :p 12:56:59 <planetmaker> urban legend or truth? ^ 12:59:03 <V453000> beer is the key 13:00:37 *** Pecio [~fgh@abzt150.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:01:11 <Eddi|zuHause> that was said by the person himself in an interview 13:01:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember which interview, was a few years ago, i thinks 13:01:58 <dihedral> where is that money gs for me? :-P 13:10:54 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.110.152] has joined #openttd 13:12:49 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 13:24:06 <Belugas> hello 13:29:37 <V453000> hy 13:45:32 *** DanMacK [~453f3eb5@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:45:36 <DanMacK> Hey all 13:46:49 <Xaroth|Work> seriously, why doesn't openttd have a trailer narrated by sean bean yet? 13:46:57 <oskari89> :D 13:47:00 <AndreasB> whos sean bean? 13:47:03 <oskari89> TS2014 does ;) 13:47:11 <Xaroth|Work> TS2014 does indeed 13:47:18 <Xaroth|Work> and so should openttd tbh 13:47:28 <Xaroth|Work> AndreasB: Sean Bean.. google him 13:47:36 <Xaroth|Work> or, if you're into the game of thrones tv series, Ned Stark. 13:48:05 <Dozer> planetmaker there isn't any easier way of doing it, than have to compile the entire game from scratch? :D 13:48:30 <planetmaker> I quoted all options. That was only the first 13:48:51 <Dozer> Ah yeah. 13:48:57 <Dozer> What is symlinks? 13:49:00 <Dozer> No clie what it is. 13:49:09 <Xaroth|Work> junctions on windows 13:49:14 <Xaroth|Work> symlinks on unix based stuff 13:49:23 <AndreasB> junctions ?:S 13:49:31 <Xaroth|Work> yes, Junctions 13:49:31 <Dozer> Yeah, junktions? 13:49:40 <Dozer> That explanation didnt clear up anything for me. 13:49:56 <Dozer> If anything, it only created more questions. 13:50:06 <Xaroth|Work> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point 13:50:07 <AndreasB> LOL 13:50:16 <AndreasB> I tried mounting an HD to a dir once 13:50:17 <AndreasB> that fubared 13:51:15 <Xaroth|Work> then again, ms finally figured out to improve junctions by implementing NTFS Symlinks, but isn't available until vista iirc 13:51:19 <Xaroth|Work> where junctions are win2k+ 13:51:57 <AndreasB> Hell no, let unix keep symlinks 13:52:00 <AndreasB> dont need that on winblows 13:52:41 <Xaroth|Work> ... 13:52:51 <Xaroth|Work> sysadmins would disagree with you on that 13:52:52 <AndreasB> what? 13:52:55 <AndreasB> bs 13:53:06 <planetmaker> yeah, let windows lack that also in future. It'sa dying OS anyway :-) 13:53:15 <Xaroth|Work> symlinks can be quite useful, and it's pretty sucky that windows didn't support it properly until a few years ago 13:53:25 <AndreasB> For like what Xaroth ? 13:53:38 <AndreasB> what on earth could you possibly need it for on winblows? 13:53:40 <planetmaker> for like what I dozer wants for instance 13:53:53 <planetmaker> s/I/like/ 13:53:53 <Xaroth|Work> AndreasB: I use junctions/symlinks on my home pc 13:54:02 <Xaroth|Work> mainly because I don't want certain stuff on certain paths, since that's my SSD 13:54:18 <Dozer> planetmaker I'm sorry to say, but windows is in no way a dying OS. 13:54:30 <Xaroth|Work> Dozer: your sarcasm meter is broken 13:54:38 <Dozer> Oh :D 13:57:17 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.114.21.53] has joined #openttd 13:57:22 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:59:56 <V453000> fuck linux! 13:59:58 <V453000> :÷ 14:00:16 <planetmaker> http://www.netmarketshare.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=9&qpsp=2008&qpnp=6&qptimeframe=Y 14:01:28 <V453000> what is the difference between ios and mac? 14:01:35 <V453000> I thought ios is the os on macs :D 14:01:41 <TinoDidriksen> OS X is Mac's OS 14:01:49 <TinoDidriksen> iOS is iPhone/iPad 14:02:29 <V453000> right 14:02:34 <planetmaker> iOS is to OSX what WindowsPhone is to Windows7 14:03:02 <AndreasB> lol 14:03:11 <AndreasB> Difference is on windows only windowsphone sucks 14:03:17 <AndreasB> both ios and osx is SHIT 14:03:26 <AndreasB> everything apple touches turns to shit 14:03:36 <alluke> osx / wp7 godtier :D 14:03:49 <__ln__> AndreasB: i don't suppose you have any evidence on that 14:04:07 <V453000> because you cant shoot people with apple games? :D 14:04:11 <planetmaker> __ln__, he obviously knows first-hand. By comparing all the devices against eachother 14:04:22 <planetmaker> don't you see that from the qualified analysis he supplied? 14:04:42 <__ln__> oh yes 14:04:49 <AndreasB> __ln__: One can see that by looking at apples patents, among other things 14:04:55 <AndreasB> Also I've owned an iphone 14:05:01 <AndreasB> It broke by being dropped 14:05:20 <V453000> XD 14:05:26 <TinoDidriksen> ...duh? Most eletronics do. 14:05:27 <V453000> very unusual 14:05:38 <AndreasB> Nokia doesnt 14:05:39 <AndreasB> HTC doesnt 14:05:56 <V453000> any smartphone is generally very fragile to being dropped 14:05:59 <AndreasB> Did you say most electronics DOESNT? 14:06:01 <AndreasB> I agree 14:06:18 <alluke> drop your tv and see what happens 14:06:42 <AndreasB> TV isnt a phone 14:06:48 <alluke> theyre both electronics 14:06:52 <TinoDidriksen> Most electronics break when dropped. I am confident if you subjected the Nokia and HTC to the same angle and G-force as the iPhone, they would also break. 14:06:55 <Japa> My sony phone was dropped many times 14:06:59 <AndreasB> They are not both "most electrnics" 14:07:03 <Japa> Most of the paint has chipped off 14:07:11 <Japa> and there's dust inside the screen 14:07:16 <Japa> but it runs great still 14:07:27 <AndreasB> ^ 14:07:35 <AndreasB> Do that with an iphone 14:07:42 <AndreasB> It breaks first time you drop it 14:07:44 <Japa> haha shattered screen 14:07:51 <TinoDidriksen> If things land flat, they're fine. If they land on a corner, probably not so fine. 14:07:51 <AndreasB> My old nokia, I through it at a wall 14:07:59 <AndreasB> Picked it up, put it back together, nothing broken 14:08:17 <TinoDidriksen> And it had the same specs as the iPhone? 14:08:37 <Japa> Generally plastic bodied phones are more sturdy. 14:08:41 <Japa> Glass tends to shatter 14:08:50 <AndreasB> Well 14:09:09 <AndreasB> Did you forget remove that ONE little sand particle from your iphone-thingie? 14:09:13 <AndreasB> Ooops, glass broke 14:11:13 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:12:15 <Japa> My phone is pretty similar in specs to the Iphone 4 14:12:28 <Japa> And while I wouldn't call it indestructible, it's pretty sturdy 14:13:46 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:13 <Japa> http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-pro,Apple-iPhone-4/phones/5213,4586 14:14:25 <Japa> I picked an iphone from the same year to compare it to 14:15:18 <Japa> And is 3/4 the price 14:15:24 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:17:33 <Xaroth|Work> oh great 14:17:40 <Xaroth|Work> the apple vs non-apple fight 14:18:15 <Eddi|zuHause> all smartphones are shit!! 14:19:31 <Xaroth|Work> I did, however, snigger at the price of apple's new 'budget' version of the iphone 14:19:43 <Xaroth|Work> 600 bucks, budget :| 14:22:25 * Japa does a quick conversion 14:22:28 <Japa> BAH 14:23:33 <Japa> Well 14:24:23 <Japa> that's a whole less than Sony's top phone over here. 14:25:10 <Japa> Actually, that's a bad comparison 14:25:23 <Japa> Prices in general are cheaper here 14:26:25 <Xaroth|Work> meh 14:26:38 <Japa> 5c is the cheaper one, right? 14:26:48 <Xaroth|Work> yeh 14:27:28 <Xaroth|Work> the galaxy s4 is 520 euro, the htc one is 550, the iphone 5 (not s/c) 16gb is 620 euro here. 14:27:57 <Xaroth|Work> with the 5s to range between 700 and 1000 euros depending on amount of storage 14:27:59 <Japa> How much is the Xperia Z1? 14:28:09 <Xaroth|Work> 642 14:28:37 <Xaroth|Work> and the lg g2 is 550 14:28:37 <Japa> That matches the price here, more or less. 14:29:03 <Eddi|zuHause> what happened to phones for 20â¬? 14:29:27 <Japa> They're still there. 14:29:29 <Xaroth|Work> they are stil there 14:29:33 <Xaroth|Work> the Nokio 100 14:29:34 <Xaroth|Work> for 22 euro 14:29:39 <Xaroth|Work> the 101 for 26 14:29:40 <Japa> And they're still indestructible 14:29:45 <Xaroth|Work> and the 206 for 63 14:30:25 <Xaroth|Work> lolz 14:30:33 <Xaroth|Work> apparently the nokia 100 is being sold with a data bundle 14:30:44 <Xaroth|Work> that phone doesn't even have data capacity :| 14:31:03 <Japa> pfft 14:31:24 <Xaroth|Work> (the 101 is the dual-sim version of the 100 btw) 14:32:03 <Japa> I can't remember the model number of my first nokia, but it was the one with the disco lights 14:32:53 <Japa> Ah, there it is 14:32:55 <Japa> 3220 14:33:01 <Japa> That phone rocked 14:33:44 <Eddi|zuHause> my work phone says 3720 14:33:53 <Xaroth|Work> holy shit, the 206 has an apparent stand-by time of a month and a half 14:33:54 <Eddi|zuHause> no clue what that cost 14:34:24 <Xaroth|Work> I should get me one of those for the zombie apocalypse 14:34:42 <Eddi|zuHause> my standby time is about 2-3 weeks 14:35:05 <alluke> when will sotm voting begin 14:35:07 <Japa> http://youtu.be/qMDypWJmH_I 14:35:17 <Japa> What modern phone can do this, seriously? 14:36:02 <Xaroth|Work> I... am not sure if that counts as a 'must have' feature :| 14:36:13 <Japa> :D 14:39:20 <Japa> It totally is. 14:39:22 <Japa> Anyway 14:39:38 <Japa> I'm wondering if there will be a new sony phone before I save up for my new one 14:43:32 <Xaroth|Work> https://plus.google.com/115212051037621986145/posts/R8jEVrobbRj 14:43:34 * Xaroth|Work giggles 14:47:44 <Japa> hehehe 14:49:04 <Japa> So, what are the chances that Sony will release another 0 phone before next year? 14:49:09 <Japa> Probably slim, I guess. 14:49:22 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-41-249.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:49:33 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-252-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49:45 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.252.44] has joined #openttd 14:49:51 <DanMacK> Well shit... I didn't even see him here 14:50:12 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.252.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:24 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.252.44] has joined #openttd 15:00:05 <Japa> Well nice, there is one coming out. The Z1 Mini 15:03:59 <alluke> im a hardcore slut 15:04:10 <Xaroth|Work> tmi 15:04:25 <TinoDidriksen> nei 15:08:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B815.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:15:54 <V453000> nice 15:19:21 <AndreasB> nei? 15:19:24 <AndreasB> jo jo :D SelvfÞlgelig 15:19:27 <Xaroth|Work> opposite of tmi 15:19:34 <Xaroth|Work> not that he's a viking. 15:19:38 <Japa> Not enough information 15:21:54 <AndreasB> lol 15:22:04 *** DanMacK [~453f3eb5@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:25:30 <V453000> sparta 15:26:39 <Japa> No, THIS IS MADNESS! 15:26:48 * Japa throws V453000 out of the well. 15:26:58 <AndreasB> For SPAAARTAAA! *charges* 15:28:43 <LordAro> this function is going well: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2666/ 15:28:50 <LordAro> now, how to simplify... 15:38:47 <LordAro> better... http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2667/ 15:39:05 * LordAro looks up templating 15:48:09 <LordAro> improvement #2: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2668/ 15:49:20 <Xaroth|Work> looks like a lot of duplication 15:50:04 <Xaroth|Work> why not put the forloop into its own function? 15:51:02 <Xaroth|Work> make the ships a big array with one item for each type, iterate over that, function iterates for free space, done :) 15:53:44 <LordAro> "i guess i could make the whole thing one massive for loop" <-- i never sent that :L yes, that's what i was thinking 15:54:14 <Xaroth|Work> sorry, all the rabble about silly phones made me miss that bit :P 15:54:47 <LordAro> so i would end up with: "std::vector<std::vector<std::pair<int, int>>> list;" (without the typedef) :D 15:55:02 <Xaroth|Work> :| 15:55:05 <Xaroth|Work> looks ugly 15:55:43 <LordAro> would actually be: "std::vector<std::vector<Piece>> list;" 15:55:46 <LordAro> less ugly :) 15:57:50 *** Jomann [~abchirk@f052020199.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:58:24 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5a1c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:15:16 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.110.152] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15:45 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.110.115] has joined #openttd 16:17:17 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:20:13 <LordAro> and the final one: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2669/ 16:20:15 <LordAro> :D 16:20:21 <LordAro> so much awesome in c++11 16:21:14 *** Japa_ [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 16:23:52 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.110.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:32 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 16:31:32 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:33:26 *** Japa_ [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:38:20 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.100.200] has joined #openttd 16:38:59 <frosch123> LordAro: that's trying very hard to use c11, isn't it? 16:39:15 <LordAro> not very hard ;) 16:39:21 <frosch123> using a shared_ptr where a reference would suffice is, uhm... 16:39:21 <LordAro> but yeah, a little :) 16:39:36 <LordAro> yeah, i'm probably not using shared_ptr correctly just yet 16:39:54 <LordAro> working out how to use them properly is on my todo list :) 16:40:53 <LordAro> but for now, well, it works, so i'll leave it :) 16:41:09 <LordAro> the original function, since you missed it: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2666/ 16:42:12 *** Japa__ [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 16:42:31 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:42:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:45:56 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:06 *** Markk [mark@host155-38.etanet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:08 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 16:48:27 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.100.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:48:59 *** Japa_ [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 16:49:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:50:17 *** Japa__ [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:51:47 *** Markk [mark@host155-38.etanet.se] has joined #openttd 16:55:01 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:55:17 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:56:12 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.105.106] has joined #openttd 16:57:43 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.105.106] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:58:03 *** Japa__ [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 17:02:58 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has joined #openttd 17:03:31 *** Japa_ [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:33 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07:44 <LordAro> now with rotation http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2670/ :D 17:07:49 <LordAro> this is awesome fun :) 17:09:37 *** Japa__ [~Japa@112.79.37.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:26 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:01 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:09 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.252.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:50 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.252.44] has joined #openttd 17:39:12 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 17:39:21 *** tmsft [~id@37.140.124.50] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:53:17 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AE21.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:19:40 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:19:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:19:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:19:55 <Alberth> o/ 18:19:58 <andythenorth> o/ 18:28:45 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 18:29:27 <andythenorth> @seen danmack 18:29:27 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: danmack was last seen in #openttd 3 hours, 39 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <DanMacK> Well shit... I didn't even see him here 18:32:21 <andythenorth> so what are we talking about? 18:32:26 <Alberth> you should agree on times to get online :) 18:32:43 <andythenorth> :) 18:32:44 <Alberth> no idea, I joined 4 seconds before you :p 18:35:23 * andythenorth should eat some food 18:35:26 <andythenorth> and code something 18:35:35 <andythenorth> does anyone play the game anymore btw? 18:35:38 <andythenorth> I did for a bit 18:38:18 <Alberth> I did it too for a bit, but am somewhat stuck what to do next iirc 18:38:45 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 18:39:09 <andythenorth> I had to playtest a new FIRS economy 18:39:13 <andythenorth> that gave me a few games 18:39:27 <andythenorth> maybe I should work on this ship set thing 18:39:36 <andythenorth> I got distracted by horses 18:39:51 <andythenorth> is anyone coding anything for ottd? 18:39:56 * andythenorth hasn't read logs for weeks 18:40:11 <andythenorth> hmm GS stuff 18:40:16 <Alberth> just small stuff, it seems 18:40:37 <Alberth> oh indeed, zuu is busy :) 18:40:41 <Taede> or stuff thats not for ingame 18:46:45 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 18:52:27 <andythenorth> hhmm 18:52:37 <andythenorth> maybe instead of finishing all the unfinished stuff 18:52:40 <andythenorth> I should start something new 18:55:29 * frosch123 starts a new cup of coffee 18:55:39 <andythenorth> \o/ 18:55:49 * andythenorth doesn't drink coffee this late so often 18:55:56 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.134.39] has joined #openttd 18:58:02 *** DDR [~chatzilla@154.20.134.39] has quit [] 19:04:32 <V453000> I think andythenorth should quit pondering and start drawing XD 19:05:01 <andythenorth> I just did :P 19:05:05 <andythenorth> it's easy for you 19:05:07 <andythenorth> you're nuts :P 19:05:54 <andythenorth> since when you can't change company colour whilst paused? :o 19:05:58 <andythenorth> maybe I never noticed 19:07:34 <V453000> depends on what you have allowed in the settings I assume 19:07:38 <V453000> if no actions, no actions I guess :) 19:08:41 <V453000> also being nuts doesnt always help with drawing :D 19:08:54 <V453000> dumped 2 days of work yesterday cuz looked bad :| 19:09:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host180-136-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:09:13 <Wolf01> hi hi 19:11:52 <Alberth> hi 19:13:19 <__ln__> Wolf01: do you speak latin? 19:13:55 <Wolf01> no, but I wanted to learn it 19:14:15 <__ln__> same here 19:14:15 <frosch123> gallia est divisa in partes tres 19:14:30 <frosch123> quarum unum incolunt belgae 19:14:35 <frosch123> aliorum helveticate 19:14:49 <frosch123> tertiam ipsorum linguae celtae, nostra gallae, appelantur 19:15:22 <frosch123> but sometimes it's actually useful :) 19:17:32 <V453000> anus 19:17:57 <frosch123> oh yes, czech uses the same cases as latin 19:18:45 <frosch123> including vocativ and locativ 19:22:42 <V453000> wtftiv 19:23:07 <V453000> special form used during active consumption of beer 19:23:10 <V453000> [always] 19:24:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B463.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:15 <__ln__> what is "life vest under your seat" in latin? 19:26:42 <frosch123> that's not even a sentence 19:27:40 <__ln__> i know, you can add the implicit "est" if it helps. 19:27:57 <__ln__> "chaleco salvavidas debajo de su asiento" in spanish. 19:28:55 <frosch123> google also knows latin btw. 19:29:04 <frosch123> just put it in the translator 19:29:15 <frosch123> it can't be bad, everyone uses it on tt-forums 19:30:47 <__ln__> yeah right, google's latin translations seem to be totally fucked up, even i can tell that without knowing many words of latin. 19:39:01 * andythenorth fixes flashing pixels 19:39:04 <andythenorth> mindless, soothing 19:39:06 <andythenorth> useful 20:00:02 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:08 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:27 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 20:34:33 <frosch123> night 20:34:37 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5a1c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:38:34 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AE21.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:02:45 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 21:03:48 <Belugas> night and weekend! 21:03:53 <Belugas> YOUHOU!! 21:04:19 * Belugas is going to get drunk tonight. That is a necessity! 21:04:31 <fjb> Good night, Belugas. 21:06:42 <Alberth> good night sir B 21:08:13 * andythenorth has painted some ship stuff 21:08:17 <andythenorth> and might go to bed 21:08:37 <V453000> new nuts out :) 21:08:42 <andythenorth> \o/ 21:08:55 <V453000> with new ships XD 21:09:00 <andythenorth> V453000: (assume realistic-ish) how would you do containers on a container ship? All same colour, or different colours? 21:09:13 <andythenorth> colours depending on cargo :P 21:09:14 <V453000> I figured containers are kind of ugly if unicolor 21:09:18 <andythenorth> yeah 21:09:20 <V453000> I always randomize them 21:09:28 <andythenorth> it's just one big wodge of unicolor 21:09:35 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:09:46 <V453000> I mostly have ~5 colours or more for them 21:09:51 <V453000> and let random do the thing 21:09:59 <andythenorth> how many containers on one wagon? 21:10:02 <V453000> for goods specifically I also add lumber/glass/bricks to it 21:10:10 <V453000> depends how many fit and what capacity I expect 21:10:15 <V453000> mainly what fits 21:10:22 <V453000> (also deduces how big is a container) 21:10:42 <andythenorth> each angle has 12 in view for this ship 21:10:53 <andythenorth> and there are part-loaded states too :P 21:12:17 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/entry/gfx/SHI_S_flatbed.png 21:12:19 <V453000> my ship flatbeds 21:12:22 <V453000> including containers :) 21:12:40 <andythenorth> oh god so much sprite work 21:12:48 <andythenorth> does your week have 12 days in it? 21:12:57 <V453000> 27 21:13:10 <andythenorth> where do you find the time or motivation? O; 21:13:11 <andythenorth> o: 21:13:13 <andythenorth> :O 21:13:24 <V453000> andy this is just one of many spritesheets :) 21:13:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B815.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:39 <V453000> motivation, mostly in new ideas 21:13:48 <V453000> aka ideas for new functionality of new engines 21:13:55 * andythenorth likes the duck 21:13:55 <V453000> visual part is just a bonus :) 21:14:04 <V453000> there are 6 versions of duck atm I think 21:14:05 <V453000> or more 21:14:33 * andythenorth spent one evening just fixing bad pixels 21:14:43 <andythenorth> I looked at FIRS earlier 21:14:48 <andythenorth> I have no idea how I found time to draw it :P 21:14:55 <andythenorth> even allowing for massive copy-paste 21:14:56 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/entry/gfx/maglevflatbed.png these and http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/entry/gfx/CHAMELEONflatbed.png these are my favourite flatbed wagons I drew 21:14:57 <Alberth> :) 21:15:10 <V453000> they haz nice containers too 21:15:23 <V453000> but honestly the randomizers are 80% of the beauty when it comes together 21:15:47 <andythenorth> I can randomise painting the sprites (pixa) 21:15:55 <andythenorth> but I have to choose some basic pattern :P 21:15:55 <V453000> ... 21:16:50 <Alberth> V453000: holy crap, that's a lot of images :) 21:17:16 <Alberth> but I fully agree, it's beautiful in-game 21:17:16 <V453000> it is :) 21:17:44 <V453000> I think randomization does soooo much 21:18:11 <V453000> e.g. for the newest wagons I made 3-10 random options for almost every cargo 21:18:24 <andythenorth> hmm 21:18:26 <andythenorth> loading states 21:18:38 <V453000> those are extra XD 21:27:45 <andythenorth> so load one side first then other? 21:27:57 <andythenorth> or both sides at once, front to back, 21:28:00 <andythenorth> meh 21:28:49 <V453000> randomize it XD I do that too sometimes 21:28:50 <NGC3982> I can't sleep. 21:30:15 <NGC3982> I have no computer at my disposal, and my damn smartphone is too small for OpenTTD. 21:30:37 <NGC3982> Bum deal :-(. 21:32:58 <andythenorth> night 21:33:00 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:48:10 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has joined #openttd 21:50:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:50:14 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 21:52:07 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:56:02 *** lobstar [~lobster@glosoli.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 21:56:33 *** Pulec [pulec@unaffilated.amunak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:33 *** lobster [~lobster@glosoli.owenrudge.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:16 *** Pulec [pulec@unaffilated.amunak.net] has joined #openttd 22:12:40 *** George is now known as Guest538 22:12:42 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 22:14:01 *** Jomann [~abchirk@f052020199.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: What? 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