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00:04:52 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 00:08:56 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11:23 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:19:46 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 00:19:55 <alluke> how many triangles? 00:19:56 <alluke> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1004368/N%C3%A4ytt%C3%B6kuva%202013-11-22%20kohteessa%202.18.41.png 00:28:14 <glx> too many ;) 00:30:08 <glx> I have already 25 and I think I miss many 00:36:47 <alluke> i got 7 00:37:23 <alluke> theres one which i cant tell if its quadrangle 00:39:20 <scshunt> I'm at 33 00:39:36 <scshunt> oh wait, that edge doesn't hit the bottom right corner 00:39:48 <scshunt> there go 4 of mine 00:39:52 <scshunt> so 29 00:40:57 *** treaki_ [87ddc49d09@p4FF4A332.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:44:49 <alluke> dont count in the quadranges 00:45:44 *** imachine [~imachine@2a00:dcc0:eda:3754:216:3cff:fe01:8973] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:46:09 *** imachine [~imachine@2a00:dcc0:eda:3754:216:3cff:fe01:8973] has joined #openttd 00:48:07 *** treaki__ [4408e50ad1@p4FF4B07C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:57:53 <alluke> imma play some club penguin 01:20:27 <alluke> guess what 01:20:35 <alluke> raining stopped 01:20:45 <alluke> first time today 01:20:49 <alluke> ill go outside 01:24:13 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:33:13 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has joined #openttd 01:34:13 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has quit [] 01:42:32 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:56 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 01:51:50 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 01:55:07 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.189] has joined #openttd 02:01:19 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 02:17:08 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:19:23 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-104.york.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:19:37 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has joined #openttd 02:23:42 *** Superuser [~superuser@cpc11-lewi15-2-0-cust98.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. 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[~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:16:49 *** Woolridge_ [~oftc-webi@ip-37-24-69-249.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 15:18:00 <Woolridge_> hey there 15:21:27 *** xXTeslaXx [~oftc-webi@p5B07FFD2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:26:32 <Woolridge_> someone there? 15:27:27 <LordAro> maybe 15:28:46 <Woolridge_> well, i just wanted to ask if there is any way to chance the costs to establish cities @ottd 15:29:12 <LordAro> iirc, no 15:29:20 <LordAro> other than using a base cost changing newgrf 15:29:22 <LordAro> maybe 15:33:36 <Woolridge_> well, is it difficult to create a customized newgrf? 15:34:19 <LordAro> not too much 15:34:37 <LordAro> look up the existing base cost modifier newgrfs 15:34:41 <LordAro> they may do it for you 15:34:46 <planetmaker> if it's just about changing costs, use one of the configurable base costs NewGRFs 15:34:59 <planetmaker> :) 15:35:12 <LordAro> /o planetmaker 15:35:46 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 15:35:48 <planetmaker> heya :-) 15:36:21 <Woolridge_> well, it's only purpose would be to change the cities and producing industry costs, could you recommend me one for that? 15:37:40 <planetmaker> "base cost grf" ;-) 15:37:54 <planetmaker> or was it called "base cost mod"? 15:38:45 <Woolridge_> well ok, i'll look for both and try it out, thx =) 15:39:12 *** xXTeslaXx [~oftc-webi@p5B07FFD2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:44:41 <Woolridge_> oh btw, how do i configure a newgrf? (sorry i'm a total noob at this stuff) 15:49:02 <peter1138> ð 15:50:06 *** titanen [~titanen@l83-177-166-139.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:06:25 *** Woolridge_ [~oftc-webi@ip-37-24-69-249.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:16:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BB5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:22:28 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-15-252.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:27:07 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:33:00 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34:15 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:34:18 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:36:21 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 16:45:42 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.6.144] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:06 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.6.144] has joined #openttd 16:47:31 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:51:58 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:35 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.232] has joined #openttd 16:54:23 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:20:06 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 17:25:13 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:47 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.232] has joined #openttd 17:34:09 <__ln__> http://middle-earth.thehobbit.com/ 17:40:27 <LordAro> shame it's just a hobbit map really 17:40:58 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, it could have been a whole middle earth map... 17:42:14 * LordAro decides to listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfFQuhWaA_k 17:42:30 <__ln__> i find the choice of language interesting, though i'm not quite sure what it is 17:47:59 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 17:51:48 <Rubidium> oh lord... 17:52:42 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:53:45 *** DarkAce-Z is now known as DarkAceZ 18:10:40 *** Superuser [~superuser@cpc11-lewi15-2-0-cust98.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 18:25:27 <NGC3982> The LOTR/Hobbit soundtracks is a real bomb. 18:25:46 <LordAro> of course 18:28:16 <NGC3982> Being moderately interested in movies, thinking of what Peter Jackson came from - and what he did - Still confuses me. 18:28:41 <LordAro> ? 18:28:47 <NGC3982> Meet the feebles and Bad taste is not bad movies, of course. 18:30:01 <NGC3982> Though, the amount of kudos he should have for re-inventing the industry standard with his first big budget movie is greater than the amount of coal you guys ship per weekend. 18:30:36 <LordAro> ^ 18:30:44 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3358.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:31:23 <NGC3982> Sure, from a plot point of view the movies does not hold up in every bit 18:36:10 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:45:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26045 /trunk/src/lang (norwegian_bokmal.txt swedish.txt) (2013-11-22 18:45:13 UTC) 18:45:22 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:23 <DorpsGek> norwegian_bokmal - 2 changes by Trond 18:45:24 <DorpsGek> swedish - 3 changes by abbedabb 18:48:21 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 19:02:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:05:21 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host109-150-76-32.range109-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:06:45 <andythenorth> http://www.flickr.com/photos/46711946@N07/sets/72157637915418213/with/10982394894/ 19:08:06 <NGC3982> That is one glued flame. 19:08:37 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00841f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:59 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:33 <andythenorth> quak 19:11:36 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.6.144] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:40 <Alberth> quakquak 19:13:54 <frosch123> moin 19:14:01 <LordAro> moinmoin 19:14:21 <frosch123> i think i am the one who says "quak" the least in this channel :p 19:14:51 <LordAro> :p 19:15:22 <planetmaker> quaak 19:15:25 <planetmaker> :-P 19:15:35 <Alberth> never too late to start quak-ing:) 19:19:40 <andythenorth> hmm 19:19:44 <andythenorth> shippety ship 19:19:50 * andythenorth should work on some Squid 19:19:54 <andythenorth> maybe wine first 19:23:45 <andythenorth> hmm 19:23:50 * andythenorth needs to write code to write code 19:23:53 <andythenorth> always such lol 19:26:34 <Alberth> make a second andy 19:27:06 <Alberth> then you can have someone writing the code to write the code for you :) 19:27:13 <Superuser> yodawg.jpg 19:30:05 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.186] has joined #openttd 19:40:15 <andythenorth> bah 19:40:27 <andythenorth> my code-writing script needs to know the filenames I want to mangle 19:48:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BB5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:51:52 <andythenorth> hmm 19:52:10 <andythenorth> wonder what happens if... 19:52:34 <frosch123> better press the green button, not the red one 19:54:10 <andythenorth> importing a module to my code-writing script, then rewriting it on the filesystem using that script...? 19:54:12 <andythenorth> wise? 19:58:02 <Alberth> doesn't sound like it :) 20:14:35 <andythenorth> oh well 20:14:46 <andythenorth> what could possibly go wrong? o_O 20:14:50 <andythenorth> I can always rollback :P 20:19:42 <andythenorth> hmm code writing code ftw 20:23:03 <Alberth> I know, I live on it :p 20:24:58 <andythenorth> o_O 20:25:34 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3358.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 20:26:23 <andythenorth> anyone want to write some parameter code for me? 20:26:25 <Alberth> although in practice that part of the code is small compared to the stuff you need to express what to generate ;) 20:26:44 <andythenorth> generators seem to have that interesting problem :) 20:26:46 <Alberth> k, I'll bite 20:26:58 <andythenorth> having written a few now, configuration is much harder that generation :P 20:27:03 <andythenorth> than * 20:27:16 <andythenorth> Alberth: nml parameters, action 14? o_O 20:27:33 <Alberth> oh, that parameter code :p 20:27:42 <andythenorth> :) 20:27:46 <andythenorth> I should do it I guess 20:27:46 <Alberth> let me read the nml about it 20:27:58 <andythenorth> if you want to learn, FISH is a nice easy project :) 20:30:22 <Alberth> what do you want to have? 20:30:26 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 20:30:55 <andythenorth> have you got the code checked out? 20:31:12 <frosch123> maybe some iron/copper/platin horse switch? 20:31:18 <Superuser> I thought you meant the Linux shell fish, but then I checked what channel this way 20:31:19 <Superuser> was* 20:31:25 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:52 <andythenorth> frosch123 :P 20:34:49 <Alberth> yes, was 107 changesets behind :) 20:35:30 <Kjetil> Whatever happened to the multiple industries of the same type in the same town option ? 20:35:39 <Alberth> nothing 20:35:55 <frosch123> check your filter settings 20:36:13 <Kjetil> heh 20:36:19 <Alberth> filters seem to cause a lot of confusion 20:36:28 <andythenorth> Alberth: I've just added a 'vehicle_groups' property to ships (it's a list) 20:36:28 <Kjetil> "Advanced settings" -> "Show: Basic Settings" 20:36:36 <frosch123> Alberth: only for old users :) 20:36:51 <andythenorth> I want a parameter with options 'All Ships', 'Sea Ships Only', 'River Boats Only' 20:36:53 <Kjetil> new users don't know what they are looking for ? 20:37:05 <frosch123> yes 20:37:05 <andythenorth> I hope the rest is obvious :) 20:37:14 <Alberth> new users don't know about options they cannot see :p 20:37:16 <frosch123> and old users will learn in the next 2 years 20:37:27 <andythenorth> if you get bored kick it back to me, I don't 100% mind writing my own code :P 20:37:34 <andythenorth> but I welcome help 20:38:00 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.84.25] has joined #openttd 20:39:11 <Kjetil> The colorscheme of the Advanced settings dialog doesn't help. Dark text on dark colours makes the dropdown boxes easy to ignore 20:39:36 <Superuser> ^ 20:40:29 <planetmaker> Kjetil, don't use 'company colour' newgrfs. They screw with the UI colours 20:40:49 <planetmaker> i.e. black or white company colour NewGRFs are known to have strange side effects in this area 20:40:57 <andythenorth> nah, even vanilla, he's right 20:41:03 <andythenorth> the advanced settings is black on purple 20:41:09 <andythenorth> compare it to newgrf window - black on yellow 20:41:17 <andythenorth> the legibility of advanced settings is...not the best :) 20:41:30 <andythenorth> we have low consistency in this stuff :) 20:41:53 <andythenorth> consistency can be over-rated, but variation without a reason can make a UI stinkier :) 20:41:56 <frosch123> it is not has bad as the custom currency window :p 20:42:04 <planetmaker> ah... well, that contrast has been sufficient for me so far. But colour vision here is one of the few things ok with my eyes :-P 20:42:09 * andythenorth explores 20:42:24 <andythenorth> where is custom currency? 20:42:32 * andythenorth wonders if we should do a UI tidy 20:42:50 <andythenorth> there has been an old idea that we could fix it all 'properly', but none of us can be bothered 20:43:20 <frosch123> andythenorth: the master plan consists of removing colour codes from strings and adding {emph} and {noemph} commands 20:43:21 <andythenorth> but a nice refresh would be a nice little feature 20:43:26 <andythenorth> frosch123: that's kind of nice 20:43:31 <frosch123> then making those fixed to the backgruond colour 20:43:34 <andythenorth> are colours controlled by classes? 20:43:39 <andythenorth> or would they be? 20:44:12 <andythenorth> colours of setting panels seem to vary quite a bit :) 20:44:18 <planetmaker> they currently aren't. It's just hard-coded 20:44:27 <andythenorth> could we move them to constants? 20:44:31 <andythenorth> or define some classes? 20:44:34 <andythenorth> (same thing) 20:44:45 * andythenorth digs a bit more 20:45:16 <andythenorth> do the different colours help anyone recognise different panels? 20:45:23 <andythenorth> e.g. game options is grey, other panels are purple 20:45:31 <andythenorth> is that helpful, or just 'meh' ? 20:45:41 <frosch123> andythenorth: https://wiki.openttd.org/GUI_Style#Window_colours 20:45:57 <andythenorth> so game options is not in spec 20:46:02 <andythenorth> for historical reasons 20:46:05 <frosch123> not all windows comply ofc :) 20:46:18 <andythenorth> ofc :) 20:46:26 <andythenorth> transparency settings is out of spec too 20:46:46 <frosch123> it's a toolbar 20:46:47 <andythenorth> as is save 20:46:57 <andythenorth> transparency != construction :o 20:47:00 <andythenorth> :) 20:47:06 <andythenorth> maybe it does 20:47:15 <frosch123> i guess load/save could use brown 20:47:28 <frosch123> hmm, no, smallmap is also brown 20:47:48 <andythenorth> I would say brown for load/save 20:47:52 <andythenorth> according to style guide 20:47:57 <andythenorth> it's a 'general window' 20:48:05 <frosch123> brown are all the neutral lists in game 20:48:14 <frosch123> towns, map, industries 20:48:40 <andythenorth> could be the style guide that is out-of-spec :) 20:49:11 <andythenorth> so cargo payment rates is incorrect 20:49:34 <andythenorth> actually that one has stuck out to me for a while - because the minimap and industry chains are brown 20:49:58 <andythenorth> company league table should be brown 20:51:23 <andythenorth> debug windows maybe shouldn't be grey 20:51:45 <andythenorth> grey makes sense for utility windows tbh, I think the style guide is wrong there 20:52:00 <frosch123> fix it :) 20:52:34 <andythenorth> Grey Company windows (vehicles, finances), utility windows (save, load, newgrf and AI debug) 20:52:35 <andythenorth> ? 20:53:18 <planetmaker> you mean gray for all those? yeah 20:53:26 <andythenorth> I'll adjust wiki 20:53:31 <planetmaker> will be interesting to see AI / NewGRF config in gray :D 20:53:49 <andythenorth> nah, I think the config should stay in purple, I mis-explained 20:54:03 <andythenorth> there are a group of mostly dev-related windows that should be grey 20:54:11 <andythenorth> and the save/load is a bit of an odd one 20:55:19 <Alberth> no lang file in fish? 20:56:27 <andythenorth> Alberth: compiled 20:56:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BB5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:56:44 <Alberth> ah 20:56:59 <andythenorth> updated https://wiki.openttd.org/GUI_Style#Window_colours 20:57:17 <andythenorth> frosch123: is this an interesting project to fix window colours, or boring? o_O 20:58:10 <frosch123> i wouldn't call it challenging :) 20:58:54 <frosch123> but for windows with dynamic text context, you need to be careful to not miss any texts 20:59:59 <frosch123> hmm, though if you need to change colours in strings, the script to adapt the other languages could be interesting :) 21:00:39 <andythenorth> I'd probably unify all the purple windows to match newgrf style - yellow on the important buttons 21:00:44 <Alberth> andythenorth: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2833/ something like this? it fails to build though 21:00:47 <andythenorth> it's not subtle, but it is very usable 21:01:56 <andythenorth> Alberth: looks about right. Actually making them available or hiding them is done in the property block with climate availability prop. What compile message are you getting? 21:04:00 *** DanMacK [~d83be170@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:04:05 <DanMacK> Hey all 21:04:22 <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2834/ but perhaps my build environment is old or incomplete 21:04:25 <andythenorth> hi DanMacK 21:04:28 <frosch123> andythenorth: if you want to dive into colours. some advice: don't look at scenario editor, or you will drown :p 21:04:43 <andythenorth> frosch123: thanks for warning, I can't swim, I'll stay away 21:05:16 <andythenorth> Alberth: pulled the absolute latest? o_O 21:05:28 <andythenorth> might be that repo was slow with my last commit 21:06:13 <Alberth> it claims I have the newest version :) 21:06:43 * andythenorth tests 21:07:09 <Alberth> making clean, and retrying doesn't help either 21:07:13 <andythenorth> Alberth: I think I know the issue :) 21:07:24 <Alberth> then you know more than me :) 21:07:26 <andythenorth> Ship class doesn't have a vehicle_groups prop :P 21:07:27 <andythenorth> oopsie 21:07:42 <Alberth> lol 21:07:54 <andythenorth> 1 min 21:09:18 <andythenorth> Alberth: pushed 21:13:42 <Alberth> it has an indentation error :p src/fish.py", line 71 but seems to build 21:13:58 <andythenorth> another oopsie 21:14:09 <andythenorth> it's astounding that *any* of my code works 21:14:47 <andythenorth> pull 21:24:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6B091.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:25:00 <Alberth> hmm, False doesn't get expanded. 21:25:51 <andythenorth> he 21:26:02 <andythenorth> how pythonic :) 21:28:11 <Alberth> is it? 21:28:40 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28:50 <andythenorth> probably not :P Paste offending code? 21:30:31 <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2835/ fixed with an 1 if b else 0 :) 21:30:58 <Alberth> It's not happy though, nmlc warning: "fish.nml", line 570: Block 'barletta_paddle_steamer_switch_available_ship_type' is not referenced, ignoring. 21:31:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6CD96.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:05 <andythenorth> switch unreferenced :) 21:32:15 <andythenorth> but a switch isn't the solution here anyway, unless something changed in the spec :) 21:32:37 * andythenorth looks for a bit of code 21:33:20 <andythenorth> it's similar to how FIRS does economies 21:33:46 <Alberth> please feel free to adjust 21:34:17 <andythenorth> want to commit and I'll finish it? :) 21:34:23 <andythenorth> I don't mind that it doesn't compile 21:35:34 <Alberth> pushed 21:35:38 <andythenorth> ta 21:41:26 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26046 /trunk/src/network/core (3 files) (2013-11-22 21:41:19 UTC) 21:41:27 <DorpsGek> -Fix: handle a number of failure conditions from methods called in the network code 21:41:55 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26047 trunk/src/network/network_content.cpp (2013-11-22 21:41:49 UTC) 21:41:56 <DorpsGek> -Fix: possible, but very unlikely, null pointer dereference when gunziping just downloaded files 21:42:26 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26048 trunk/src/story_gui.cpp (2013-11-22 21:42:20 UTC) 21:42:27 <DorpsGek> -Fix: use delete instead of free when allocated by new 21:42:53 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26049 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-11-22 21:42:47 UTC) 21:42:54 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: remove some dead code as order can't be NULL there 21:43:52 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26050 /trunk/src (strgen/strgen_base.cpp table/strgen_tables.h) (2013-11-22 21:43:47 UTC) 21:43:53 <DorpsGek> -Fix: possible, but currently untriggered, out of bounds access in strgen 21:44:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26051 trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp (2013-11-22 21:44:23 UTC) 21:44:29 <DorpsGek> -Fix: out of bounds access in CmdTownCargoGoal 21:44:40 <Xaroth|Work> somebody's busy :o 21:44:58 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26052 trunk/src/company_base.h (2013-11-22 21:44:51 UTC) 21:44:59 <DorpsGek> -Fix: missing virtual destructor could cause some memory to be not freed 21:45:35 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26053 trunk/src/newgrf_gui.cpp (2013-11-22 21:45:28 UTC) 21:45:36 <DorpsGek> -Fix: possible use-after-free 21:46:03 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26054 trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp (2013-11-22 21:45:57 UTC) 21:46:04 <DorpsGek> -Fix: minor memory leak in strgen 21:46:24 <Xaroth|Work> Rubidium: either you are extremely bored, or you have been saving these up for a while :o 21:47:03 <andythenorth> "All Ships", "Sea Ships", "River Boats" 21:47:06 <andythenorth> confusing? 21:47:10 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26055 trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp (2013-11-22 21:47:03 UTC) 21:47:11 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: mark switch default as really not triggerable, as technically it's dead code 21:47:12 <andythenorth> are Boats also Ships? 21:47:15 <planetmaker> quite clear, andythenorth 21:47:22 <andythenorth> okey dokey 21:47:44 <frosch123> Xaroth|Work: don't underestimate the efficience of rb 21:48:35 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49:18 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:50:48 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26056 /trunk/src (6 files in 3 dirs) (2013-11-22 21:50:43 UTC) 21:50:49 <DorpsGek> -Fix: a number of possibly uninitialised variables 21:52:10 <Alberth> good night 21:52:22 <planetmaker> good night, Alberth 21:52:26 <andythenorth> bye thanks :) 21:52:31 <andythenorth> (nearly finished btw) 21:52:33 <Alberth> yw :) 21:52:38 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:53:55 <Taede> evening 21:54:33 <planetmaker> hi Taede 21:55:07 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 21:55:33 <Taede> Xaroth|Work: thats+---- 21:55:34 <Taede> + 21:55:36 <Taede> + 21:55:37 <Taede> dg 21:56:00 <Taede> first time dog typed... 21:56:36 <Xaroth|Work> o_O 21:57:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6B091.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57:13 <Taede> what i meant to say was that soap is now on a live server 21:57:38 <Xaroth|Work> nice 22:07:40 <frosch123> night 22:07:43 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00841f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:12:36 * andythenorth needs the makefile to bounce the OS X dock icon or something 22:12:39 <andythenorth> when done 22:12:41 <andythenorth> 'say done' 22:12:47 <andythenorth> 'beep' 22:13:40 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 22:14:39 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 22:15:12 <andythenorth> hmm there's some kind of bell command 22:15:19 <andythenorth> dunno how to trigger it with bash 22:15:48 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 22:16:41 <Xaroth|Work> echo -e '\a' iirc 22:17:25 <andythenorth> tput bel 22:17:36 <andythenorth> echo -e '\a' also works 22:17:37 <andythenorth> ta 22:17:44 <Xaroth|Work> :) 22:18:47 <andythenorth> planetmaker: can I have a cookie? ^ 22:19:04 <andythenorth> I know I can chain it with && 22:19:10 <andythenorth> but that is more typing :P 22:19:51 <planetmaker> I can't say I'd be too much fond of a Makefile which bings at me 22:20:20 <andythenorth> maybe I just write myself a local .sh 22:20:35 <andythenorth> compiles take so long that I have to go play dice wars or something while I wait :) 22:23:58 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:47:58 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:49:11 *** DanMacK [~d83be170@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:08:54 <andythenorth> good night 23:08:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:19:15 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 23:28:52 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:37:21 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 23:38:39 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host86-130-200-251.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:39:45 <montalvo> is there any way to increase passengers at a railway station besides just increasing the town population? 23:58:51 <Eddi|zuHause> make a bus service that has "transfer and leave empty" at the railway station, so you cover a larger area of the town