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Log for #openttd on 28th November 2013:
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00:18:58  <NGC3982_> Evening.
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00:35:59  <__ln__> bonsoir
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01:08:02  <geoffreybeene> Sup TTD homies
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01:16:41  <NGC3982_> geoffreybeene: hi.
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01:22:51  <geoffreybeene> hEY ngc
01:22:53  <geoffreybeene> How you doin
01:23:02  <NGC3982_> Excellent.
01:23:05  <NGC3982_> And you?
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01:25:11  <geoffreybeene> gREAT
01:25:17  <geoffreybeene> Was hoping to get some TTD in before I gotta go out
01:25:24  <geoffreybeene> I know i'll probably just get sucked in though
01:25:30  <NGC3982_> :-)
01:28:46  <geoffreybeene> Are there music expansions?
01:28:53  <geoffreybeene> I friggin' love the base soudntrack
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03:28:21  <Killer11> Good evening/night
03:29:03  <Supercheese> Good 6:38 PM PST
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03:31:17  <Killer11> I kind of finished preliminary work on this scenario thing
03:31:34  <Killer11> Gonna post it so peopel can give me crits and such
03:32:12  <Killer11> wow I still typo that word systematically
03:32:18  <Killer11> after all these years...
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03:45:43  <Killer11> if anyone wants to try it, go and grab it http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=69459
03:48:52  <Killer11> Anyone here with some NML skills?
04:00:14  <Supercheese> whatcha wonderin' about?
04:01:54  <Killer11> I want to learn NML so I can recode my old trainset
04:02:20  <Killer11> i've tasted c++/java/html so I should be ok
04:13:25  <Supercheese> NML is great
04:13:29  <Supercheese> the tutorial is excellent
04:13:42  <Supercheese> http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NMLTutorial
04:14:32  <Killer11> Thanks
04:15:06  <Killer11> also since my old sets nfo is really really simple(made in grfmaker...) could i somehow convert it to nml?
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05:51:50  <BiG_MEECH> hi all
05:52:34  <BiG_MEECH> anyone here know ubuntu linux 12.04 really well?
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06:27:43  <Kostiak> Is there a way to change when I get access to trains?
06:28:56  <Kostiak> Aka make it start at earlier year?
06:29:40  <Supercheese> well, you can change the actual year via the cheat menu
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06:29:45  <Supercheese> whoops
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06:41:37  <kostiak> is there a way to use engines from one climate in another climate?
06:41:52  <kostiak> maybe edit the scenario somehow?
06:42:02  <Supercheese> lemme guess, NARS?
06:42:39  <kostiak> NARS?
06:42:49  <Supercheese> seems I
06:42:53  <Supercheese> I guessed wrong*
06:43:02  <Supercheese> (stupid enter key, next to apostrophe)
06:43:23  <Supercheese> anyway, there isn't an easy way to do that, especially in a running game
06:43:38  <kostiak> I have a scenario in the sub-acrtic climate but want to use temperate trains in there
06:43:46  <kostiak> not a running game, a scenario
06:43:59  <kostiak> or even if not whole trains, at least the engines of temperate
06:44:08  <Supercheese> an already-created scenario is identical to a running game in terms of difficulty in changing core game elements
06:44:17  <kostiak> hmm
06:44:31  <kostiak> is there a way to copy a map from one scenario to another?
06:44:36  <Supercheese> you can copy the heightmap
06:44:41  <Supercheese> Scenario Editor -> Save Heightmap
06:44:42  <kostiak> (including cities)
06:44:48  <Supercheese> doesn't include cities unfortunately
06:44:55  <Supercheese> or, well, anything other than base terrain
06:45:03  <Supercheese> base terrain height*
06:45:04  <kostiak> hmm
06:45:11  <kostiak> any other way to go about it?
06:45:25  <Supercheese> well, what, if any, grfs are you using?
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06:46:14  <kostiak> none at the moment
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06:46:21  <kostiak> still not sure how they work
06:46:34  <Supercheese> OpenGFX+ trains may be able to help, IIRC
06:46:51  <Supercheese> I've never used it, but I have a hunch they have relevant parameters
06:47:21  <Supercheese> yes, it does
06:47:24  <Supercheese> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/entry/docs/readme.ptxt
06:47:43  <Supercheese> Specifically, it has parameters that let you choose just what you want
06:47:48  <Supercheese> temperate trains in arctic
06:48:03  <Supercheese> you should be able to find it in the Online Content menu
06:49:07  <kostiak> ok so i downloaded it
06:49:11  <kostiak> and enabled it in the main menu
06:49:22  <Supercheese> yeah, you'll need to enable it in the scenario
06:49:24  <Supercheese> one moment
06:49:24  <kostiak> but when i start a game the list of active newgrfs is empty
06:49:27  <kostiak> ok
06:50:11  <kostiak> open the scenario in the editor and the list is still empty, how do i add it there?
06:50:13  <Supercheese> See: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=53881 and http://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_Debugging
06:50:19  <Supercheese> that describes the process
06:51:30  <Supercheese> be sure to remember to set the parameters
06:54:18  <kostiak> ok i think it worked, thanks a lot!! <3
06:56:38  <Supercheese> You're most welcome
06:56:54  <Supercheese> just be warned that because you had to change newgrfs there theoretically could be some issues in the game
06:57:05  <Supercheese> although hopefully you'll never see any
06:57:27  <Supercheese> the linked thread talked about that
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09:18:45  <LordAro> moin
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09:40:08  <__ln__> has anyone here preordered a Jolla?
10:30:04  <Supercheese> 'night
10:30:10  <Rubidium> morning
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13:21:20  <NGC3982_> Morning
13:21:37  <NGC3982_> Is there a way to force trucks and busses always to go to the end of a station?
13:21:54  <__ln__> *buses
13:22:09  <NGC3982_> Thank you.
13:22:23  <__ln__> np
13:23:41  <Eddi|zuHause> they do that automatically
13:25:21  <NGC3982_> I see
13:25:28  <NGC3982_> Since, i'm experiencing this: http://i.imgur.com/lMZc0Pl.png
13:25:43  <planetmaker> __ln__, your correction is ill-placed as not necessary
13:25:54  <planetmaker> buses or busses is both correct
13:26:01  <NGC3982_> Although, it might have to do with the bus "in the middle", simply being there since the last buses left.
13:26:14  <planetmaker> http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=bus#Noun
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13:26:33  <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982_: yeah, pretty much
13:26:54  <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982_: the others will pass through after waiting for a while
13:27:01  <NGC3982_> In my perfect world, a full load order would still make the buses "fill the gaps", but i guess that's not possible.
13:27:05  <Eddi|zuHause> which may make things worse
13:27:05  <__ln__> http://grammarist.com/spelling/buses-busses/
13:27:18  <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982_: implement overtaking in stations :)
13:27:29  <NGC3982_> That would be kind of cool.
13:27:43  <NGC3982_> I solved with using non-drivetrough stations.
13:27:59  <NGC3982_> http://i.imgur.com/A83iEk1.png
13:28:08  <NGC3982_> Seems to work better when using heaps of buses
13:28:24  <NGC3982_> (And yes, i should build it entry-exit).
13:28:36  <planetmaker> NGC3982_, you should send vehicles both ways through the dtrs instead of only one-way. It doubles capacity that way
13:29:02  <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982_: yes, dead end stations have their uses :)
13:29:25  <NGC3982_> planetmaker: I tried it, but it seems like they get stuck more often. I'm not sure if that's about me simply having to much buses, though
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13:30:10  <__ln__> *too many
13:30:29  <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: maybe they're uncountable?
13:30:40  <NGC3982_> __ln__: Ty.
13:30:42  <V453000> substitute every word with fuck, solved
13:30:42  <NGC3982_> __ln__: Assface.
13:31:08  <planetmaker> ...
13:31:32  <__ln__> NGC3982_: you're welcome
13:32:13  <planetmaker> sometimes I wonder about the mental age of some
13:32:29  <planetmaker> my guess would be around 8 to 12
13:32:56  <V453000> iam10
13:32:56  <V453000> bingo
13:35:38  <NGC3982_> Pm: I assure you, i will never reach the age of 10.
13:35:52  * planetmaker presses 'reverse' button
13:36:51  <V453000> :D
13:37:10  <V453000> the retards with numbers in nicknames always win
13:37:32  <planetmaker> 000345V ?
13:37:41  <V453000> :D
13:37:45  <V453000> wat
13:37:52  <V453000> 000354V
13:37:58  <planetmaker> sounds smaller. so reverse button works :-P
13:38:08  <V453000> you swapped 4 and 5 :P
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13:38:18  <planetmaker> nothing is bug-free ;-)
13:38:24  <V453000> :DDD
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13:39:38  <ass> perfect
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13:42:07  <NGC3982_> 13:46 [oftc] -!- 2893CGN Erroneous Nickname
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13:44:53  <__ln__> /nick 0
13:46:27  <Eddi|zuHause> is that remotely comparable to /join 0?
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14:42:43  <NGC3982_> I'm running a server based on a savegame
14:43:11  <NGC3982_> I use the dedicated server with the c ang g function, to choose save and configuration file
14:43:30  <NGC3982_> I also use a restarting year set in the choosen config file
14:43:55  <NGC3982_> I just noticed that the parameter does not restart the savegame i started, but a standard game specified in openttd.cfg
14:44:03  <NGC3982_> and openttd.cfg != the choosen config file.
14:44:10  <NGC3982_> Can i get around that in some way?
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14:47:42  <planetmaker> yes... by using a script connected to admin port which can restart the server and reload a savegame
14:48:48  <NGC3982_>  I see. And script is the only (or the easiest) way?
14:52:13  <planetmaker> I believe so, but maybe I err
14:53:39  <NGC3982_> Thanks, ill start reading up.
14:54:56  <Rubidium> depends what you consider easy
14:55:41  <Rubidium> maybe changing to code to call the load game code instead of new game code is "easier" for you; maybe not
14:58:32  <NGC3982_> Sure, simply loading the save file with the correct config file would be the "most correct way"
14:58:39  <NGC3982_> Since that is the way the server initially starts.
15:01:04  * Rubidium wonders why/how it would/could fallback to another cfg
15:04:37  <Rubidium> and what makes you think it uses the wrong one?
15:04:47  <Rubidium> missing NewGRFs?
15:05:27  <lugo> the problem is after restarting it's creating a new game rather than using the one specified in the -g switch?!
15:05:39  <lugo> *restarting,
15:06:10  <Rubidium> yes; nothing specifies that it needs to be the loaded savegame
15:06:34  <Rubidium> especially because it could also be exactly not what you want
15:06:39  <Belugas> hello
15:08:18  <planetmaker> for instance the usual case where you load a savegame after a server update or maintenance
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19:35:18  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26133 /trunk/src/lang (malay.txt unfinished/frisian.txt) (2013-11-28 18:45:10 UTC)
19:35:19  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
19:35:20  <DorpsGek> frisian - 1 changes by Taeke
19:35:21  <DorpsGek> malay - 3 changes by aarchen1795
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19:37:59  <Alberth> moin
19:38:07  <LordAro> quak
19:40:35  <frosch123> hola
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20:27:30  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26134 trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp (2013-11-28 19:37:24 UTC)
20:27:31  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5820]: aircraft crashing near the map's border due to a lack of airports could trigger an assertion in most builds
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20:29:11  <Alberth> hihi
20:29:31  <Wolf01> hellol
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22:50:32  <frosch123> night
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23:57:34  <Wolf01> 'night all
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23:58:30  <NGC3982_> Night.

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