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12:48:08 <Wolf01> both 12:49:20 <peter1138> Yeah... it's downloading now... 13:02:14 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 13:03:50 <__ln__> i guess i need it too 13:05:25 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:06:01 <Wolf01> I need half of the games on steam, but I must not fall in the trap again, I already purchased enough bundles to play for the rest of my days 13:11:09 <Alberth> so you don't really need them :p 13:11:53 <Wolf01> it's like chocolate, do you really need it? 13:12:07 <Eddi|zuHause> YES!! 13:14:41 <Alberth> even if you have enough chocolate in your house to last a life time? 13:15:54 <Japa_> If I had a house full of chocolate, I'd use it to get girls 13:17:04 <planetmaker> One of my best doesn't like chocoloate. No idea what's wrong with her :P 13:17:10 <planetmaker> *best friends 13:17:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00df6a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:17:31 <__ln__> Wolf01: you need to outsource 13:19:24 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: no matter how much chocolate it is, it will never ever last that long 13:20:37 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: you may be very lucky not to have that much chocolate then :) 13:21:32 <Eddi|zuHause> chocolate is like free HDD space 13:22:00 <Eddi|zuHause> no matter how much you got, it immediately is gone 13:22:18 <Alberth> :) 13:40:26 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:57 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 13:53:56 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:53:59 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 13:56:51 <Wolf01> I've just open my 80% cocoa chocolate table.. not bar, table. 13:59:50 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-82-140.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:06 *** kero [~keikoz@202.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 14:23:44 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 14:47:01 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:50 *** Superuser [~superuser@cpc11-lewi15-2-0-cust98.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:48 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 14:59:48 *** DarkAce-Z is now known as DarkAceZ 15:22:19 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 15:29:33 *** vGelder [vGelder@vhe-365503.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 15:40:08 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 15:50:15 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@00017153.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:22:30 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:32:25 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:46:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:51:58 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 16:54:03 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:59:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:04 <andythenorth> o/ 17:02:04 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:02:49 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has joined #openttd 17:03:34 *** Wolfe [~Wolfe4@c-71-194-70-219.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:10 *** Super_Random [~kvirc@75-102-176-79.d2.itctel.com] has joined #openttd 17:11:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:13:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:32 <andythenorth> @seen danmack 17:19:33 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: danmack was last seen in #openttd 5 days, 19 hours, 26 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <DanMacK> Hey all 17:22:08 <planetmaker> probobaly covered under metres of snow :D 17:29:49 <andythenorth> hmm, I can disable breakdown smoke? 17:29:59 <andythenorth> maybe that's just trains 17:30:03 * andythenorth looks in spec 17:30:49 <andythenorth> oh yeah 17:31:02 <andythenorth> I forgot, it's a train game 17:31:23 <andythenorth> yay, prop 17 has it for ships too :) 17:31:34 <andythenorth> nice 17:32:29 <andythenorth> should I disable breakdown smoke for ships? 17:39:41 <kero> I don't think 17:39:59 <kero> even if it shows a little bit weird for the wood hugs 17:40:22 <kero> smoke is useful to actually see that there's a breakdown 17:40:48 <kero> (hi, btw) 17:48:04 <skyem123> Hmmm... 17:48:33 <skyem123> is the REplay version of transport tycoon the windows one or dos one. 17:49:53 <juzza1> change the smoke offset? 17:50:51 <juzza1> oh, i didnt really think this through 17:51:13 <juzza1> was thinking about the normal smoke/visual effect :P 17:55:27 *** vGelder [vGelder@vhe-365503.sshn.net] has quit [] 18:01:42 <planetmaker> yeah, I prefer a visual feedback for broken vehicles, too 18:11:36 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@78.97.205.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:03 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:35:03 <NGC3982_> Is connecting multiple airports to one possible by configuration? 18:35:29 <Super_Random> hmm 18:35:32 <Super_Random> I actually don't know 18:35:37 <Super_Random> never used airports that much 18:38:01 <planetmaker> one airport per station. Not more 18:45:29 <peter1138> Hmm, can't see how to renew certificates on this firewall :S 18:47:17 <peter1138> Seems I have to create a new identity with a new CSR every time, then switch all the config to use the new identity. Seems dumb... 18:54:07 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:54:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:57:15 <NGC3982_> PM: Allright. 18:58:44 <Sacro> Why do I have to accept the GPL to install OpenTTD on Windows? 18:59:18 <Sacro> It's a redistribution licence, not a usage one 18:59:26 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni 18:59:26 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 2 years, 7 weeks, 6 days, 17 hours, 50 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh 19:02:57 <peter1138> A lot of stuff does that :( 19:07:06 <Sacro> And OpenTTD shouldn't 19:07:19 <Sacro> I declined the GPL and it wouldn't install, that there's a bug 19:07:27 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.133.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:46 <V453000> enjoy having problems 19:11:02 <LordAro> Sacro: i'm sure you're able to raise a bug report, if it really matters to you ;) 19:12:21 <Sacro> Euggggggh 19:12:24 <Sacro> I don't raise bug reports 19:12:44 <LordAro> well you're not entitled to complain when things are broken then ;) 19:13:20 <Sacro> That's just not true 19:14:07 <LordAro> s/you're not entitled/it's a bit pointless/ 19:15:13 <juzza1> you are not forced to do anything, but the best way for you to get your suggestion through is to make a bug report 19:30:01 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:04 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host109-151-42-35.range109-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:30:43 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.98.184] has joined #openttd 19:31:46 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.96.86] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19DF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:34:19 <Sacro> so you can use "content upgrade" to get the new files off bananas 19:34:29 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:29 <Sacro> but how do you get openttd.cfg to recognise them in a new game? 19:35:52 <planetmaker> edit openttd.cfg? 19:35:57 <Sacro> Yeah 19:36:00 <LordAro> why do you want openttd.cfg to recognise them? you can just add them in the newgrf settings 19:36:03 <Sacro> I hoped it'd be more automated than that 19:36:08 <Sacro> LordAro: not on a dedicated server 19:36:35 <LordAro> true 19:36:38 <planetmaker> Sacro, how could it? How can OpenTTD decide which NewGRFs you want to have on your server? Whether you want to use this or that or both, but not another? 19:37:08 <planetmaker> there absolutely is no way OpenTTD can ever decide which NewGRF *you* want 19:37:45 <planetmaker> even not when one assumes that you only want NewGRFs which are the 'latest version' of them 19:37:48 <frosch123> since when is the opinion of the player important? 19:38:19 <LordAro> ^^ 19:38:25 <planetmaker> :D 19:39:20 *** kero [~keikoz@202.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43:13 <Sacro> planetmaker: they share GRFID 19:43:18 <Sacro> surely that gives half a clue 19:43:27 <Sacro> And given it can auto update 19:43:36 <glx> there's no grfid in .cfg 19:43:44 <Sacro> there's no reason it couldn't pull in the new .tar and then add itself into [newgrf] section 19:49:11 <peter1138> Heh, TS2014 back to £20.99 19:52:01 <Sacro> TAI doesn't seem to be overriding default tree plac 19:52:36 <planetmaker> tree placement is not newgrf-able 19:54:21 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@37.31.42.127.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has joined #openttd 19:57:36 <Sacro> I meant forest 19:58:27 <frosch123> forest of houses? 20:04:07 <Sacro> TAI basic industries isn't removing all the default forests 20:04:13 <Sacro> @seen Pikka 20:04:13 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Pikka was last seen in #openttd 8 weeks, 0 days, 12 hours, 10 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <Pikka> wombatbuses 20:04:19 <Sacro> @seen Pikka* 20:04:19 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Pikka* could be Pikka (8 weeks, 0 days, 12 hours, 10 minutes, and 19 seconds ago), pikkas (41 weeks, 0 days, 20 hours, 27 minutes, and 28 seconds ago), pikka2 (47 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 54 minutes, and 23 seconds ago), Pikka_ (1 year, 33 weeks, 5 days, 23 hours, 44 minutes, and 2 seconds ago), Pikka|afk (3 years, 36 weeks, 5 days, 4 hours, 32 minutes, and 30 seconds ago), or Pikkaaa (3 years, 37 (1 more message) 20:08:17 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@37.31.42.127.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 20:10:24 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@37.31.42.127.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has joined #openttd 20:12:18 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@37.31.42.127.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has quit [] 20:14:31 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@37.31.42.127.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has joined #openttd 20:25:46 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:26:21 <andythenorth> hmm 20:26:26 <andythenorth> so I might play a game 20:26:31 <andythenorth> :P 20:26:40 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has joined #openttd 20:27:02 <andythenorth> controversial 20:27:09 <andythenorth> I still don't understand cargodist 20:27:35 <frosch123> is that a good thing? 20:27:46 <frosch123> usually games are more fun if you do not understand them completely 20:28:25 <frosch123> it leaves room for interpretation and imagination :) 20:28:27 <andythenorth> :) 20:29:02 <andythenorth> last game I tried was a mess 20:30:27 <andythenorth> I approached it like YACD 20:30:33 <andythenorth> and I tried using autorefit 20:30:42 <andythenorth> one of those is wrong, and one of those is broken 20:31:25 <andythenorth> so I guess I should forget about YACD-style play 20:31:34 <andythenorth> and also forget about autorefit :) 20:31:48 <Alberth> initial setup of auto-refit is somewhat more complicated than what you'd ideally want 20:32:03 <andythenorth> it's too fragile 20:32:19 <andythenorth> having to change that 'distribute cargo to stations even without a demand' switch is not at all obvious 20:32:40 <andythenorth> and then having cargo waiting everywhere makes it hard to figure out what cdist is actually doing 20:32:52 <Alberth> you don't actually have to do that, just refit to the desired cargo one time 20:33:51 <Alberth> cdist doesn't really like it if you change train movements, it has to run some calculations, and then play catchup 20:34:10 <Alberth> so it's a mess for some time 20:34:41 <Alberth> not something you have to worry about very much, it sorts itself out eventually 20:34:41 <andythenorth> autorefit seems like it was designed with yacd in mind, and now I find it kind of useless 20:35:12 <Alberth> I had a good use for it with fruit and maize in tropical 20:35:39 <frosch123> i used it for candyfloss/sugar/toffee 20:36:48 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@37.31.42.127.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:55 <Alberth> but not doing autorefit may be better for understanding what cdist is doing 20:37:17 <andythenorth> I'm sure I found in my last game that autorefit doesn't work even with explicit orders 20:37:32 <andythenorth> I spent some 30 mins or so testing different things 20:37:40 <andythenorth> no cargo is distributed to the station iirc 20:38:33 <andythenorth> nvm 20:38:55 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:36 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 20:39:49 <Alberth> cdist takes some time to add new stations to the distribution 20:40:23 <Alberth> usually it does get some, unless it is far away across the map from the creating industry 20:41:14 <Alberth> also having symmetric distribution limits choices here 20:41:56 <Alberth> then you only get as much cargo as the smallest amount that can be transported 20:42:16 <Alberth> which obviously fails horribly with most industries 20:42:44 <andythenorth> iirc, the issue was that industries simply didn't distribute cargo to the station 20:43:29 <andythenorth> the autorefit didn't seem to mark the station as visiited by a vehicle with that refit 20:43:36 <andythenorth> but I might be talking rubbish, it was months ago 20:43:44 <andythenorth> anyway, I'm compiling for a new game :) 20:44:25 <Alberth> oh, it worked for me, but you do need to visit a station with at least one wagon for each cargo you want to exchange there 20:46:52 <Eddi|zuHause> that's probably something that needs to be improved 20:47:25 <Alberth> which holds for almost all parts of the program :) 20:48:18 <andythenorth> I am smoking crack, autorefit with explicit order does work 20:48:33 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.206.99.19.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: when you will install AdiIRC? 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