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*** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.56] has joined #openttd 09:15:36 <__ln__> http://news.php.net/php.internals/70691 09:17:17 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@68.123.207.59] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:20:36 <Xaroth|Work> __ln__: that pretty much sums up all of php 09:23:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 09:23:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 09:26:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D8AB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:28:27 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:28:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:28:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D8AB.versanet.de] has quit [] 09:32:38 *** Griffin [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-123-207-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 09:32:44 *** Griffin [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-123-207-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [] 09:32:58 *** GriffinOneTwo 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andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 10:30:31 <andythenorth> moin 10:36:01 <Alberth> o/ 10:40:46 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 10:44:32 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 11:02:14 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:05:45 <andythenorth> so I am going to put a new FIRS out near Christmas 11:05:58 <andythenorth> anyone can help test the new economy to see if I've missed anything? 11:14:24 <Alberth> sounds like fun, currently trying to fix an nml error though 11:15:17 <Alberth> can action 8 or 14 refer to anything that is defined before them? 11:15:53 <Alberth> hmm, maybe nml can take care of that problem by itself 11:17:51 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.109.54] has joined #openttd 11:24:29 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.201.109.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:12 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-123-207-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 11:26:31 <Alberth> andythenorth: ok, what should I do? 11:27:16 <andythenorth> get FIRS from bundles 11:27:19 <andythenorth> I'll find the url 11:27:33 <andythenorth> this should work http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/ 11:27:46 <andythenorth> set economy parameter to Heart of Darkness 11:28:02 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: nothing except deactivation/compatibility checks should be before action 8/14 11:28:17 <andythenorth> try a game, see if I've missed any obvious things, like new cargo icons, cargo labels, broken industry layouts, tile acceptance, wrong cargos etc :) 11:28:29 <andythenorth> usually I make mistakes with tiles and cargos :P 11:28:44 <andythenorth> I've tested it for gameplay and I think it's ok 11:28:50 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: hmm, those are not so easy to detect I guess 11:28:58 <andythenorth> docs are here http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#MISTAH_KURTZ 11:29:18 <andythenorth> map and cargo colours I often forget too :) 11:29:43 <andythenorth> Alberth: ogfx + tropical might suit this btw ;) 11:29:46 <andythenorth> and HEQS trams 11:29:51 <andythenorth> and squid 11:30:22 <Alberth> announcement needs some thinking too thus :p 11:30:44 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: i guess allowing actions 6/7/9/D and B should be sufficient 11:31:01 <Eddi|zuHause> if B is the "show error message" thingie 11:31:24 <Alberth> ok, thanks 11:33:08 <Alberth> gah, stupid file names of bundles :( 11:35:07 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-53.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:39:28 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 11:42:00 <andythenorth> ? 11:42:57 <Alberth> all firs bundles are named "firs.tar.zip", and contain firs/firs.grf 11:43:17 <Alberth> so you cannot download a version and just drop it into the newgrf folder 11:44:00 <Alberth> nor can you easily find out what version a given .tar file is 11:44:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:44:28 <Alberth> andythenorth: tile acceptance should be the same for all tiles? 11:44:47 <andythenorth> should be yes :) 11:44:58 <andythenorth> most industries have only one tile defined, so it can't vary 11:45:10 <andythenorth> some have two (the second one is for animation, or used on water or such) 11:45:11 <Alberth> eg diamond mine northern tile does not accept Engineering supplies 11:45:14 <andythenorth> hmm 11:45:32 * andythenorth checks :) 11:45:49 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.236] has joined #openttd 11:45:59 <andythenorth> oh :) 11:46:12 <andythenorth> wonder why that is :) 11:46:23 <andythenorth> thanks, I'll file a bug 11:48:09 <Alberth> should I file bugs for things that I find? 11:48:18 <andythenorth> please :) 11:48:20 <andythenorth> if you don't mind 11:48:46 <Alberth> explaining to you or making a bug is about the same amount of work :) 11:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause> <Alberth> all firs bundles are named "firs.tar.zip", and contain firs/firs.grf <-- isn't that something the makefile should handle? 11:55:01 <Alberth> no idea, it manages to insert a revision in the readme, so I wonder why not in the filename or directory name? it would make things much easier 11:55:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd blame planetmaker 11:57:00 <andythenorth> yeah 11:57:04 <andythenorth> he's a loser :) 11:57:20 <andythenorth> just maintaining everyone's makefiles for them 11:57:23 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it works with cets 11:57:45 <Eddi|zuHause> cets-r822.zip 12:01:50 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:05:26 <planetmaker> Alberth, simple: during development keeping the filenames is *much* more convenient 12:05:52 <planetmaker> the zip could well have version and should 12:06:07 <planetmaker> so iirc the release builds 12:06:11 <planetmaker> but not nightlies 12:06:22 <Alberth> why not nightlies? 12:06:49 <Alberth> hi btw :) 12:06:52 <planetmaker> for the reason: development. you'd have to re-add the grf everytime. as now you can simply type 'reload_newgrfs' 12:06:54 <planetmaker> hi also :) 12:07:47 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: that applies to the grf name, but not to the bundle name 12:07:50 <planetmaker> so for developing the newgrf it's plain annoying to have the version in the filename or the tar 12:07:53 <Alberth> people push to devzone, wait for the compiler to build a nightly, and then download it, and reload the grf? 12:08:11 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: if you want to overwrite stuff, use the grf only 12:08:29 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, that doesn't test ingame text files 12:08:50 <planetmaker> Alberth, well, I don't wait for devzone, I compile locally and reload newgrf. 12:09:04 <planetmaker> that's the same makefile call - a plain, plump and not-so-painful 'make' 12:09:07 <Alberth> so would I :) 12:09:28 <planetmaker> and target 'all' creates the tar 12:09:46 <Xaroth|Work> btw Alberth, if you're working on nml .... :P 12:09:48 <planetmaker> so that you can also nicely test the readme, changelog ingame 12:09:57 <Alberth> so perhaps learn jenkins about a more painful "make me_a_numbered_nightly" ? 12:10:05 <Eddi|zuHause> and exactly how often do you test the readme? 12:10:26 <planetmaker> sounds like a plan, Alberth 12:10:31 <planetmaker> not too difficult either 12:10:46 <andythenorth> fwiw, the current setup offers me no problems :) 12:11:43 <Alberth> andythenorth: that's the argument of planetmaker too, which I fully agree on, development should be as easy as possible 12:12:29 <planetmaker> the parameter to make to include version in grf and tar is not much work. Shall be done :) 12:12:46 <andythenorth> the only issue I have is sometimes I have an issue where I am uncertain which grf is being used 12:12:50 <Eddi|zuHause> imho it should be only in the tar, not in the grf 12:12:54 <Alberth> Xaroth|Work: I would not call it working :) I am mostly clueless about what the code is doing :) 12:14:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm still waiting that someone actually includes the actionC stuff i did 12:15:54 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, the problem I have with that actionC stuff is that it requires to put constraints on how NML can order code - or it will be unpredictably wrong at times 12:16:46 <Alberth> actionC does not make sense from nml perspective 12:17:02 <Alberth> it's like commenting the output of a c++ compiler :) 12:17:12 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: if you want to reorder code you must define "sequence points" of some sort, otherwise you get unpredictable behaviour 12:17:26 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: call it "debug symbols" or so 12:17:41 <Eddi|zuHause> âŠâ* 12:17:44 <Eddi|zuHause> err 12:17:55 <Eddi|zuHause> *don't drop the keyboard* 12:18:04 <Alberth> :) 12:18:16 <Xaroth|Work> Alberth: bollocks, i had a strange request for it :P 12:19:40 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, the sorting of real sprites and action2/3 is not well defined, there's quite some freedom there. This freedom is severely limited by requiring actionC to be inserted between certain points 12:19:58 <planetmaker> the resulting grf nevertheless gives the same results 12:20:13 <Alberth> actionC is simply the wrong solution for the problem you're solving 12:20:36 <Alberth> so I won't add that feature 12:20:42 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: yes, but the "real" solution is too complex to fit into my attention span :) 12:21:48 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 12:23:06 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, yet, for your purpose there does exist the 'eddi-nml' branch/fork and that's nicely available on the DevZone's CF as well 12:23:09 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-123-207-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:23:38 <planetmaker> up to you to keep it updated :D 12:24:02 <Alberth> That doesn't make actionC the right solution. It will come back to bite us if we add it. See eg https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6584 which also indicates that order of actions is not so stable as one might think 12:25:03 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 12:25:49 <planetmaker> Alberth, there the actual NML code gives things in the wrong order already. The NML defines the grf block after the switches and spritesets. It rather indicates that NML parses and writes sequentially 12:25:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: exactly, if you make action8/grf-section a "sequence point" as in "actions may not be pushed beyond this", you can make actionC/comment the same 12:27:01 <planetmaker> the error reported there is more a limitation of the actual grf specs. And possibly a failure in NML docs to indicate that the grf block must be the first thing in your nml grf as well. 12:27:33 <planetmaker> (or alternatively taking precaution that the grf block's code is written first into the grf file) 12:27:59 <Alberth> I'd say nml should re-shuffle the declared blocks to make it work for grf 12:28:16 <planetmaker> I'd prefer that, too 12:28:27 <planetmaker> that's why I didn't close it ;) 12:30:23 <planetmaker> but let's add a comment in this sense :) 12:32:59 <Alberth> andythenorth: bulk terminal has no input -> output definition (x amount in = y amount out) ? 12:38:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i think it's meant to work more like a primary industry 12:39:51 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 12:40:07 <planetmaker> yup, it's a harbour which accepts and provides regardless, I think+ 12:44:20 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 12:47:45 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.15.7.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 12:49:15 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 12:49:45 <andythenorth> it's not strictly primary, secondary or tertiary :) 12:49:49 <andythenorth> needs a new definitions 12:50:18 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.56] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 12:50:47 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.56] has joined #openttd 13:01:24 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:28 *** Pinkbeast [damerell@chiark.greenend.org.uk] has joined #openttd 13:03:40 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 13:19:37 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.59.228.17] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC! Smaller, Faster, Even Easier. http://adiirc.com] 13:26:06 <Alberth> andythenorth: the only remaining things I could find are that the Sugar Refinery is difficult to see at the standard green minimap with heights, and the General Store and the Builders Yard are both white in a city on the map 13:26:25 <Alberth> not sure you want to change that; minimap colours are always difficult 13:27:49 <Alberth> oh, and Chips thinks copper ore is pink, while your cargo icon is green-gray-ish :) 13:30:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18E62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35:42 *** Gethiox [~gethiox@212.14.0.74] has joined #openttd 13:38:52 <andythenorth> minimap colours are a pain in the arse :) 13:39:08 <andythenorth> as are cargos :) 13:39:17 <andythenorth> maybe I should change CHIPS :) 13:39:21 <andythenorth> thanks for testing :) 13:40:09 <V453000> dying 13:45:00 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45:41 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:03 <Alberth> have a beer 13:54:10 *** berndj [~berndj@196-210-205-24.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 13:54:53 *** Pecio [~fgh@abxx190.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 14:01:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D8AB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:09:57 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:18:49 *** Gethiox [~gethiox@212.14.0.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:54 *** Gethiox [~gethiox@212.14.0.74] has joined #openttd 14:37:22 <peter1138> I should know this 14:37:30 <peter1138> But why would a Windows install run really slow? :S 14:37:33 <peter1138> No malware on it. 14:37:44 <__ln__> Maybe that's because. 14:37:56 <peter1138> Seems to be struggling with lots of disk IO. 14:38:08 <Eddi|zuHause> hard disk not running in DMA mode? 14:38:31 <Eddi|zuHause> no clue how one would check or fix that in windows 14:42:56 <SpComb> install gentoo 14:43:02 <juzza1> I once had a similar problem, fixed it by changing the HDD to IDE mode instead of AHCI in the bios 14:43:11 <juzza1> it would install _very_ slowly or not at all 14:49:56 *** Gethiox [~gethiox@212.14.0.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:11:51 *** bdavenport [~davenport@99-62-16-103.lightspeed.chrlnc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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4 changes by retro 18:45:24 <DorpsGek> latvian - 6 changes by Parastais 19:08:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:38 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:28:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@80.182.55.58] has joined #openttd 19:28:50 <Wolf01> evenink o/ 19:31:02 <Alberth> hi hi 19:33:26 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.186] has joined #openttd 19:33:46 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 19:35:15 *** Lord_Aro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-53.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:36:34 *** LordAro is now known as Guest446 19:36:34 *** Lord_Aro is now known as LordAro 19:41:06 *** Guest446 [~LordAro@host81-148-242-53.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:41:17 *** glx is now known as Guest447 19:41:17 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:47:53 *** Guest447 [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:38 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.80.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01:26 <andythenorth> bonsoir 20:10:17 *** Lord_Aro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-53.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:12:41 *** LordAro is now known as Guest451 20:12:41 *** Lord_Aro is now known as LordAro 20:17:05 *** Guest451 [~LordAro@host81-148-242-53.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:05 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:23:05 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:15 *** Zuu [~Zuu@212.112.47.66] has joined #openttd 20:28:11 <NGC3982> Poop. 20:31:29 <__ln__> bonsoir 20:41:57 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r26164 trunk/src/script/api/script_industrytype.hpp (2013-12-17 20:41:51 UTC) 20:41:58 <DorpsGek> -Doc: Fix Game Script API docs on that deity can build/prospect independent of advanced setting for that 20:49:20 *** skyem123 [~skyem123@cpc1-walt4-0-0-cust432.13-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:56:58 *** Gethiox [~gethiox@actf7.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 21:12:38 *** DanMacK [~63f9c362@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:12:54 <DanMacK> Hey all 21:14:46 <Taede> ola 21:18:30 <Alberth> hi hi 21:24:55 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-53.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35:27 *** skyem123 [~skyem123@cpc1-walt4-0-0-cust432.13-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35:35 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:45:04 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:52:00 *** DanMacK [~63f9c362@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:00:39 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:00:50 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:10:05 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 22:15:38 *** djura-san [~djura-san@djura-san.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:15:44 <djura-san> \o 22:18:38 <blathijs> Neighbour: Hacking on openttd? :-) 22:23:32 *** Super_Random [~kvirc@75-102-176-79.d2.itctel.com] has joined #openttd 22:29:54 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 22:38:18 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:47:14 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-53.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:49:09 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:49:49 <andythenorth> bye 22:49:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:53:31 <djura-san> SO i wanted to give a little update on that "project" of mine. In a single city with ~500 citizens, no industries and no money boos, it is possible to grow a city. I had some problem tho: i wanted to make it very good looking so i built some roads. 100y later, roads and stations were costing me too much so i decided to allow city to build roads but not to touch my core of the town. IT seems that it worked ot but i have to yet se how much mone 23:03:47 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:03:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 23:06:23 <Eddi|zuHause> pro tip: build the roads as another company that you can let go bankrupt 23:08:06 *** Zuu [~Zuu@212.112.47.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:03 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-6-109.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:25 <djura-san> Eddi|zuHause: could you please elaborate on that? 23:10:00 <djura-san> Eddi|zuHause: i was not aware of the fact that i can found new company in game but now your comment makes sense. Actually, it makes sense a lot 23:11:01 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to load your game as multiplayer (server) 23:11:19 <Eddi|zuHause> then you can use the company windows to move between companies 23:12:40 * djura-san is looking at "Multiplayer" dialogue 23:13:13 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-35-131.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:13:50 <Eddi|zuHause> should be "start server" and "load game" or something like that 23:14:11 <djura-san> Eddi|zuHause: i never really lookied into it. Seems very good but my town is developed already. Any new tips to share? :) 23:14:36 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-53.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause> use a city builder game script next time ;) 23:17:31 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:18:40 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@000128f9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:18:58 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@000128f9.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:19:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 23:20:36 <frosch123> night 23:20:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f74339c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:21:03 <djura-san> Eddi|zuHause: i will have to search for that. 23:32:06 *** LordAro [~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io] has joined #openttd 23:32:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18E62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:27 <Eddi|zuHause> if you find one, please tell us, because to my knowledge those people are very protective of their precious scripts 23:37:00 *** Virtual- [~Virtual@46.7.241.30] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37:22 *** Virtual- [~Virtual@46.7.241.30] has joined #openttd 23:37:22 <Eddi|zuHause> "Das kann doch nicht Wahrstein. Da könnt ja Jever kommen." 23:39:29 <LordAro> so, i have a bouncer now 23:40:16 <Eddi|zuHause> so he doesn't let you in if you wear bad clothes? 23:40:46 <LordAro> something like that :3 23:40:54 <Supercheese> You have Tigger? 23:41:01 <Supercheese> After all, bouncing is what he does best 23:41:28 <Eddi|zuHause> no idea what that means 23:41:52 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause, this guy: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tigger 23:41:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i only know a tigerduck, but that's probably not what's meant :p 23:42:11 <Supercheese> Ah, you must not be familiar with Winnie the Pooh, the A.A. Milne children's story 23:42:32 <Supercheese> and the Disney adaptations thereof 23:43:01 <Supercheese> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigger 23:43:23 <LordAro> that link will work also :) 23:43:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i have heard of winnie pooh, but never actually seen it 23:44:01 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, this is a tigerduck :) http://www.viva-la-liga.de/allgemein/to-forget-ones-purpose-is-the-commonest-form-of-stupidity/attachment/bilder-tigerente/ 23:44:09 <LordAro> well, tigger is a character in it 23:44:11 <Supercheese> it is probably more of a Disney, and thus American, thing 23:44:12 <LordAro> he bounces a lot 23:44:33 <LordAro> American? how dare you sir 23:44:34 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not like i have never seen a disney thing before :p 23:44:42 <Supercheese> although I suspect Disney has translated it into zillions of languages 23:44:45 <Supercheese> they tend to do that 23:45:42 <Eddi|zuHause> but opposing to most other disney things, this one seems to be aimed at a very young (pre-school) audience 23:45:53 <LordAro> oh it is 23:46:07 <LordAro> well, small children anyway 23:46:08 <Eddi|zuHause> so at the time where it would have been available to me, i was already too old to care 23:46:46 <Supercheese> it was very popular when I was a lad 23:47:25 <Supercheese> early 1990s, a golden era for Disney cartoons 23:50:48 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@000128f9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51:05 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@000128f9.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:51:08 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 23:52:42 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@rainbowwarrior.torservers.net] has joined #openttd 23:58:04 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]