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trains they need to to get there. 03:41:23 <Sjr> Excellent! 03:41:55 *** Super_Random [~kvirc@75-102-176-79.d2.itctel.com] has joined #openttd 04:07:13 *** DDR [~kvirc@209.53.68.219] has joined #openttd 04:08:33 <Flygon> Hmm 04:08:37 <Flygon> I must have too many boats 04:08:39 <Flygon> The game's lagging 04:10:28 *** Sjr [~sjr@S010600fb42f573f0.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:13:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6DA8F.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:22:06 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.186] has joined #openttd 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5F5E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67796.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:05:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:05:42 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 06:24:03 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:40:03 *** 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newyear!! 11:00:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:00:56 <Wolf01> hello :D 11:01:05 <Wolf01> happy new year to all 11:07:41 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.75] has joined #openttd 11:13:41 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:23:30 <Terkhen> happy new year ;) 11:26:23 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:26:35 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2001:828:405:30:83:96:177:42] has joined #openttd 11:28:22 *** Japa_ [~Japa@112.79.36.75] has joined #openttd 11:34:39 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:43:14 <Alberth> hello all, and happy new year 11:44:42 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-49-102.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:49:35 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:49:57 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined 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multiplayer servers? 17:48:21 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 17:49:00 <secure_> yeah, kinda looking to make a new friend and have a go 17:49:26 <Alberth> aren't most players in #tycoon ? (no idea really, I never go there) 17:49:58 <secure_> is this room for devs? 17:50:13 <planetmaker> nah, this is the channel for everything around OpenTTD 17:52:05 <Alberth> there not a lot of players active here 17:52:10 <planetmaker> looking for players is a bit uncommon, though. No idea, maybe in #tycoon indeed there's some players, too 17:52:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:53:25 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host58-55-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:54:05 <secure_> okay, well i've started my own server. perhaps i'll make friends better this way 17:55:22 <Alberth> you know how many servers there are, and how many players are online, right? :) 17:56:14 <planetmaker> http://www.openttd.org/en/servers <-- for reference :) 17:56:32 <secure_> yeah, I find most people to be aggressive players and very good at the game, I just hope to meet somebody who is willing to co-operate 17:56:42 <planetmaker> while the user base seems to be reasonably large, most seem to prefer single player. 17:56:52 <planetmaker> have you tried the #openttdcoop servers, secure_ ? 17:57:00 <planetmaker> notably the welcome server? 17:57:52 <secure_> no i haven't yet, sorry to be so naive but where will i find those? 17:58:47 <planetmaker> in your server list (hopefully) :) 17:58:58 <planetmaker> when you try to join a multiplayer server. you need 1.4.0-beta1 17:59:24 <planetmaker> it uses always the latest release, including release candidates and betas 17:59:38 <secure_> ohh, I am just using 1.3.1 18:00:27 <secure_> I guess the apt repository is out of date. perhaps I should compile from source instead 18:00:59 <planetmaker> online play usually is only successful, if you use the current stable release. Or like described testing release 18:01:10 <planetmaker> you could simply download pre-compiled binaries... 18:01:26 <planetmaker> www.openttd.org/download-testing (or download-stable or download-trunk) 18:01:57 <secure_> I only see releases for 1.3.3 18:02:30 <secure_> spotted it, sorry 18:02:43 *** skyem123 [~skyem123@cpc1-walt4-0-0-cust432.13-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:21 <secure_> how do i find the co-op server? I don't see any options to choose server types 18:06:22 <Alberth> #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) 3 / 255 8 / 15 1.4.0-beta1 18:06:54 <secure_> tyvm 18:07:04 <Alberth> there is a search box iirc, just type 'welcome' :) 18:08:26 <Alberth> oh, the 0.6.3 server is gone :) 18:08:47 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50-32-4-188.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:37 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@host-95-199-24-130.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 18:13:27 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50-32-37-195.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:16:02 *** Super_Random [~kvirc@75-102-176-79.d2.itctel.com] has joined #openttd 18:23:34 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.1.18.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 18:26:18 *** checkbook [~rduser@gw0.dpedu.io] has left #openttd [] 18:32:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:39:19 *** DarkAce-Z is now known as DarkAceZ 18:42:12 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:19 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26193 trunk/src/lang/german.txt (2014-01-01 18:45:12 UTC) 18:45:20 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:21 <DorpsGek> german - 1 changes by Jogio 18:46:17 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.75] has joined #openttd 18:47:12 <__ln__> http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.7128 18:49:43 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.75] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:54:49 <andythenorth> o/ 19:01:28 <Alberth> hi hi 19:06:17 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5676/cc_gui.png 19:13:48 <Alberth> how does it work? 19:13:58 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:14:06 <andythenorth> have to choose the checkbox to activate the controls for a row 19:14:10 <andythenorth> it's just weird :) 19:15:39 <Alberth> +1 19:16:03 <Alberth> yellow dropdown boxes like the advanced settings make more sense 19:16:26 <Alberth> I am missing what the colour columns actually mean 19:16:48 <andythenorth> 1st and 2nd company colours 19:17:17 <andythenorth> I wonder if this is a hangover from TTDP or something, where people just had to know what stuff meant 19:17:22 <Alberth> yeah, but there is no header 19:17:27 <andythenorth> anyway, I think it's a candidate for a quick win :) 19:17:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:17:53 <andythenorth> without any discussion of liveries for individual vehicles, or by vehicle group, or any other fancy stuff 19:17:54 <andythenorth> :) 19:18:15 <Alberth> the station window has this problem too, it just displays cargo amounts without further explanation :) 19:18:23 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:20:09 <andythenorth> the one that lists all stations? 19:20:13 <andythenorth> or the per-station window? 19:20:18 <Alberth> per station 19:20:41 <andythenorth> what am I looking for? o_O 19:20:46 <andythenorth> I see '6 tonnes of clay' 19:21:58 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:22:38 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/station_cargo.png yeah, but not what it means 19:22:45 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.29.139.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 19:24:08 <Alberth> it doesn't say it is cargo currently waiting the station 19:24:20 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:25:34 <andythenorth> oh yeah, that + thing 19:25:37 <andythenorth> what is that? 19:25:56 <andythenorth> I was looking in stable, not nightly 19:26:09 <Alberth> it's clickable, and unfolds details of where cargo want to go, or comes from 19:26:20 <Alberth> ie sort of a tree node 19:28:08 <Alberth> if you switch to "ratings" you'll see a nice caption what the numbers mean 19:28:27 <Alberth> I expect something similar in this window too 19:29:52 <andythenorth> where did my implicit order go? :O 19:30:01 <andythenorth> it just got gardened out of the order list whilst I watched 19:30:22 <Alberth> the train did pass that station this time? 19:30:33 <Alberth> it gets dynamically updated 19:30:51 <andythenorth> I'll just not worry about that :) 19:32:23 <andythenorth> hmm 19:32:28 <andythenorth> station just removed all waiting cargo 19:32:32 <andythenorth> 1,000t of it 19:32:34 <andythenorth> bit odd 19:32:36 <andythenorth> never seen that before 19:32:54 <andythenorth> oh not 19:33:03 <andythenorth> I switched to a view that hides all the cargo 19:33:04 <andythenorth> oops 19:33:31 <Alberth> lol :) 19:33:33 <andythenorth> so what is 'Station' and 'Amount' 19:33:35 <andythenorth> ? 19:33:50 <Alberth> ? 19:34:03 <andythenorth> there is a drop down in the station window 19:34:08 <andythenorth> some of the options hide the cargo 19:34:09 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:15 <andythenorth> I don't understand what they are showing me 19:35:34 <Alberth> oh, that. It's the sorting order of the window 19:36:09 <Alberth> never used it, I think 19:36:57 <Alberth> but I guess you can put the station with the biggest amount of waiting cargo at the top, so you know what route needs fixing 19:37:02 <andythenorth> interesting that sort order hides cargo 19:37:13 <andythenorth> kind of a multi-purpose control 19:37:52 <andythenorth> meanwhile.... 19:37:56 <Alberth> there are 2 or 3 different forms of cargo 19:38:44 <andythenorth> did you have any ideas for the station window? I can't work out what it actually does, so have no suggestions :D 19:38:52 <Alberth> stuff that has a route or not, stuff that is allocated to a vehicle or not 19:39:50 <Alberth> not yet; I was working on the ratings, and found a caption which I was then missing at the cargo display 19:40:23 <Alberth> did you know the ratings also display exclusive transport rights in its area? 19:40:38 <Alberth> *town, rather 19:40:56 <andythenorth> no I didn't know that :) 19:41:06 <andythenorth> I have been playing ottd for at least 6 years I think 19:41:18 <andythenorth> it has more rabbit holes than photoshop 19:41:54 <Alberth> worse, they move and new ones get added all the time :p 19:42:51 <andythenorth> interestingly we now have a localisation settings section 19:42:57 <andythenorth> which took me a while to find, but is good 19:43:36 <andythenorth> but lang, speed, currency and drive side are still localised in 'game options' 19:44:08 <andythenorth> which also still contains screenshot format (really, is that even something that players need as a UI option?) 19:44:51 <andythenorth> and also town names, unless I want to use a newgrf for those 19:45:07 <planetmaker> hey ho andythenort h 19:45:13 <andythenorth> this is stuff I might actually be able to help fix, if I make some time 19:45:27 <andythenorth> I can probably learn enough UI code without breaking too much :P 19:45:30 <andythenorth> foolish words 19:45:32 <andythenorth> ho planetmaker 19:45:32 <Alberth> hmm, given the alternatives of the screenshot format, I'd say it can be safely hidden:) 19:45:42 <andythenorth> lol :) 19:46:44 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.110.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:47:00 <andythenorth> where did the costs and such go? Those I can't find :) 19:47:07 <andythenorth> oic 19:47:11 <Alberth> costs of what? 19:47:13 <planetmaker> andythenorth, even with newgrfs, you need to set the town names here in the options 19:47:22 <andythenorth> you do? :) 19:47:31 <andythenorth> Alberth: running costs and such, I found them 19:47:46 <Alberth> :o where is that? 19:48:00 <Alberth> oh, the old dificulty window 19:48:09 <andythenorth> it's gone :) 19:48:11 <andythenorth> progress :) 19:48:45 <Alberth> yeah, let's make the other 118 or so windows disappear too :p 19:48:53 <Alberth> handwaving is sufficient :) 19:48:56 <andythenorth> maybe just try and have 99? 19:49:22 <Alberth> good and more realistic intermediate goal :) 19:49:39 <andythenorth> I don't mind the number of windows :) 19:49:52 <andythenorth> we could just solve it all with one super-window if that was the problem :) 19:49:54 <andythenorth> with tabs :P 19:49:59 <Alberth> lol 19:50:40 <andythenorth> there is a known problem with fixing flow of setting up a game, which me and planetmaker had a solution to ~2 years 19:50:45 <andythenorth> pictures and everything 19:50:55 <andythenorth> and then there are all these little odd things that don't make sense 19:51:26 <andythenorth> like why land generator isn't an advanced setting? 19:51:37 <andythenorth> it's not like there are loads of alternatives 19:51:49 <Alberth> hackalittlebit also made a redesign 19:52:11 <Alberth> not sure how it differs from your design 19:53:06 <Alberth> :o I found your company colours window. I never realized the icons at the top had new sub-selections :p 19:53:11 <andythenorth> yup :P 19:53:16 <andythenorth> guess why? 19:53:28 <Alberth> cc is very non-interesting? 19:53:51 <andythenorth> it's because trains have a crapload of their own special settings, whereas the other transport types just get a few 19:54:09 <andythenorth> so if you put them all in one window (the obvious choice, no?), there's too much train stuff 19:54:33 <Alberth> of course, you are not supposed to use the other types of transport, don't you know? 19:54:43 <andythenorth> :) 19:54:53 <andythenorth> to be reasonable, they are just all the default types 19:55:04 <andythenorth> but coaches get special treatment, freigh wagons don't? 19:55:20 <Alberth> pax likes colours :p 19:55:42 <andythenorth> you should get a rating bonus for changing the colour within last 6 months :P 19:55:46 <Alberth> looks like a good candidate for a tree 19:55:51 <Alberth> lol 19:56:07 <andythenorth> it's definitely a good candidate for removing the check box :) 19:56:22 <Alberth> someone will implement an automagic repainter :) 19:56:29 <andythenorth> I think the reasoning was probably 'omg, what if I want to turn off my colour selection' 19:56:55 <andythenorth> it's also really fun that I have to visit the top of the window to make the choice 19:57:00 <andythenorth> instead of the dropdowns being in each row 19:57:25 <Alberth> weren't there limits on the number of drop downs or the number of widgets or so? 19:58:15 <andythenorth> ah, could be 19:58:17 <andythenorth> dunno :) 19:58:18 <Alberth> iirc I read somewhere that they changed that for the news settings window 19:58:51 <Alberth> in the good old days when widgets had hard-coded positions, all manually entered :) 19:59:29 <Alberth> and a window was a struct with function pointers :) 20:00:21 <andythenorth> ok that makes sense :) 20:01:05 <andythenorth> the airport building window is ugly 20:01:10 <andythenorth> it has no box padding 20:01:22 <andythenorth> (the controls run hard to the window edge) 20:01:41 <Alberth> currently the rotation arrows are at the wrong place too 20:02:18 <andythenorth> it also has some behaviour that really annoys me, but I've forgotten what 20:02:19 <andythenorth> let's see 20:03:15 <Alberth> hmm, I can select small airports, and then not some airport, both are disabled 20:03:36 <andythenorth> found the behaviour 20:03:48 <andythenorth> it doesn't remember by last selection when opening 20:04:12 <andythenorth> which is tedious, because often I have to go use the land terraform tools while trying to build airports 20:04:42 <andythenorth> rail station build window seems to handle this much better (stays open while terraforming for starters) 20:05:06 <andythenorth> oh 20:05:14 <andythenorth> it varies depending on newgrf or default station :o 20:05:16 <andythenorth> wtf :) 20:07:44 <andythenorth> I guess build station and build newgrf station are different functions, returning different behaviours to UI? 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22:22:28 <andythenorth> or is there some issue I haven't realised there? 22:22:52 <andythenorth> I guess if you change the default... 22:22:58 <andythenorth> ...you don't want to have to go re-set all the others 22:26:14 <andythenorth> urgh 22:26:17 * andythenorth has silent rage 22:26:54 <andythenorth> complexity != complicated mess 22:30:52 <andythenorth> also, bedtime :) 22:30:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:46:11 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:47:28 *** newbie|2 [~LordAro@2.31.255.242] has joined #openttd 22:50:41 *** newbie|2 [~LordAro@2.31.255.242] has quit [] 22:56:20 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50-32-30-109.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net] has joined #openttd 23:02:16 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50-32-23-165.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:24 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50-32-30-109.drr01.hrbg.pa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:26:26 *** jjavaholic_ [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 23:26:48 *** jjavaholic__ [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:31:39 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@400l-62001.sli.unimelb.edu.au] has joined #openttd 23:34:48 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:38:59 *** JGR_ [~JGR@host81-132-127-132.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:39:17 *** JGR [~JGR@host86-156-147-241.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40:42 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd