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Log for #openttd on 4th February 2014:
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00:07:53  <ccfreak2k> What's the one game that's like openttd but isn't openttd?
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00:42:45  <ccfreak2k> Simutrains I think.
00:43:01  <ccfreak2k> Simutrans, that's it.
01:11:12  <Japa_> I thought it was railroad tycoon
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07:29:28  <Elyon> gooooood morning
07:29:44  <planetmaker> moin :)
07:29:50  <__ln__> 'qapla
07:34:07  <Elyon> do procedures count as the same action2 chain regarding registers? That is, can I set registers in the caller that work in the procedure, and vice versa?
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07:50:39  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i think
07:51:08  <Elyon> that would make sense. Thanks :) Will toy around some more
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08:51:41  <JdGordon|> can openttd be made to autmatically load a save game, take a screenshot and then quit?
08:52:55  <V453000> script script
08:59:20  <planetmaker> not that easily, JdGordon|
08:59:32  <planetmaker> loading a specific savegame is no problem, you got command line options for that
08:59:52  <planetmaker> issuing the 'take screenshot' command in a scripted way is the more problematic one :)
09:00:22  <JdGordon|> I'm open to a hacky code way :)
09:00:34  <V453000> HAX
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09:02:41  <planetmaker> I've a hacky script which creates the titlegame competition screenshots for me. It can be modified to not use the titlegame but start playing mode
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09:03:07  <planetmaker> but I don't have the up to date patch here or anywhere online but on my home pc only
09:04:01  <planetmaker> the ones online from two years ago don't apply anymore to trunk as the code basis changed
09:04:44  <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/titlegame/titlescreen.diff
09:05:10  <planetmaker> that would work on OSX or linux (SDL) but not on windows
09:05:38  <planetmaker> and as said, outdated by two years. But could give you an idea.
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09:07:08  <planetmaker> (and an openttd compiled with that patch simply won't run longer than required for that screenshot. It will then just exit normally)
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09:08:01  <planetmaker> which OS do you look for, JdGordon| ?
09:08:21  <JdGordon|> linux
09:08:40  <JdGordon|> I'm looking into using x11 keypresses from a script to do it :)
09:08:59  <JdGordon|> having trouble getting the X11 window though
09:11:24  <planetmaker> my solution just loads the game and calls the screenshot function automatically after a few ticks and then exits
09:11:35  <planetmaker> probably easier, if it's just about getting screenshots from a few games
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09:16:33  <JdGordon|> probably :) not having to rebuild would be nice though
09:16:45  <JdGordon|> where do screenshots normally get saved to?
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09:19:32  <JdGordon|> ctrl+g doesnt work?
09:20:26  <JdGordon|> woo! this will actually work :)
09:20:43  <JdGordon|> planetmaker: I might be able to make your life easier with this script :p
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09:23:01  <JdGordon|> $ xdotool windowactivate `xdotool search --class "openttd"` && xdotool key ctrl+s && sleep 10 && xdotool key ctrl+q && xdotool key Return
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09:24:50  <JdGordon|> can the savegame/scrreenshot filename format be changed to something sortable instead of having readblae dates?
09:25:04  <JdGordon|> i.e company-YYYYMMDD.*
09:26:32  * JdGordon| found the setting :)
09:31:15  <JdGordon|> oh bugger... I didnt realise it cylces the autosaves... I was hopinbg to screenshot 150+ game years of progress :(
09:32:20  * JdGordon| *only* has 61 .sav's and unevenly spaced :(
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09:53:34  <JdGordon|> is there anything obviously wrong with http://pastebin.com/5QwEg4cV ? when I run it I get the --help output instead of openttd loading the save
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10:20:49  <planetmaker> JdGordon|, I to believe that the backslashes are wrong
10:20:58  <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/titlegame/do-it.sh works like a charm
10:21:35  <JdGordon|> yeah, now i have a problem
10:21:41  <JdGordon|> I cant open the giant pngs :)
10:23:12  <planetmaker> giant? you make giant screenshots of the maps?
10:23:41  <JdGordon|> I wanted to make a timelapse of my current game
10:24:03  <JdGordon|> i think i have to timelapse specific sections :/
10:24:06  <planetmaker> timelapse of giant screenshots might overload nearly every PC :)
10:24:23  <Xaroth|Work> depends on the map tbh :p
10:24:28  <planetmaker> :)
10:24:34  <Xaroth|Work> a 128x128 map isn't as bad as a 2048x2048 map :P
10:24:36  <planetmaker> but even with 256^2 that's big images
10:25:12  <planetmaker> @calc 256*64*32*8
10:25:12  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 4194304
10:25:17  <planetmaker> @calc 256*64*32*8 / 1024/1024
10:25:17  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 4
10:25:32  <planetmaker> Just 4 Megabytes each for 256^2. That might work meanwhile :)
10:26:13  <JdGordon|> 2k*2k
10:28:38  <planetmaker> Factor of 64 :P
10:29:14  <JdGordon|> can i set the screen resolution from the commandline?
10:29:24  <planetmaker> yes
10:29:30  <planetmaker> the window size
10:31:21  <Xaroth|Work> 256MiB per screenshot
10:31:23  <Xaroth|Work> that's not too bad tbh
10:31:51  <JdGordon|> time to giveup on this idea :/
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10:39:50  <JdGordon|> is there a way to jump to a specific coordinate from a hotkey or the console?
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10:56:53  <Eddi|zuHause> <JdGordon|> i.e company-YYYYMMDD.* <-- there is a setting to use ISO dates in savegames
10:57:39  <Eddi|zuHause> JdGordon|> ctrl+g doesnt work? <-- global screenshot pops up a confirmation dialogue
10:57:56  <JdGordon|> thanks, got it all working
10:58:14  <JdGordon|> fighting with the scrollto command now
10:58:34  <Eddi|zuHause> also, you might get things to work with the "scripts/on_xxx.scr" files
10:58:56  <Eddi|zuHause> or the admin port
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11:54:03  <JdGordon|> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ops3o6jgvbffcaz/animation.gif :)
11:55:19  <LordAro> JdGordon|: does.. it have more than one frame? :3
11:55:32  <LordAro> also, gfycat.com that, makes life much easier
11:55:32  <JdGordon|> click download :p
11:55:43  <JdGordon|> 14MB...
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11:57:08  <LordAro> JdGordon|: :D
11:57:32  <theholyduck> JdGordon|, i think you would be better off encoding to h264 and uploading the animation to a site like mediacru.sh.
11:57:42  <theholyduck> especially on openttd content
11:57:50  <theholyduck> it compressed ludicrously well with h264
11:58:00  <JdGordon|> I'll try tomorow maybe
11:58:13  <JdGordon|> pity I couldnt do this with the giant screenshot!
11:58:38  <theholyduck> not to mention, it can even convert gifs to h264/vp8 for the same effect
12:00:36  <JdGordon|> almost finished saving on gfycat
12:00:43  <theholyduck> https://mediacru.sh/Qf5Ln0idyjRX JdGordon|
12:00:47  <theholyduck> i prefer mediacrush
12:01:22  <JdGordon|> thanks
12:01:48  <JdGordon|> http://gfycat.com/FakeGiftedHart
12:02:01  <theholyduck> mosly because it has a less obnoxious name, and is entirely open source
12:02:37  <theholyduck> not to mention you can create your own h264 videos for streaming and upload directly, for higher quality without relying on gif conversions
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12:46:29  <Eddi|zuHause> JdGordon|: maybe try the "zoomed-in-screenshot", it hides all the gui elements
12:46:51  <Eddi|zuHause> also, you should make it not loop
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13:17:17  <planetmaker> http://gandalf.zernebok.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=39972 might also be moderately interesting @ JdGordon|
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15:52:49  <Taede> moin
15:53:30  <Xaroth|Work> o/
15:54:38  <Elyon> hiya
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16:48:20  <Terkhen> hello
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17:11:24  <slee> hello, can you not increase the loan? i set max_loan = 1000000(was originally 500000), but it didn't increase my loan in the game, is M the highest you can set?
17:12:28  <V453000> might apply only to new game
17:12:32  <V453000> not running one
17:12:43  <slee> i've been using the cheat to give myself M to start(investors) then pay it back when i reach M, but i'd at least like to pay interest on it
17:12:58  <V453000> ............
17:13:19  <V453000> this game isnt about money.
17:13:28  <slee> right
17:14:59  <slee> well, i tried adv settings at main menu to set loan and in a new game, neither will allow over M...just curious if i was missing something to achieve this
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17:20:46  <planetmaker> set a different currency ;)
17:23:27  <slee> how will that increase max loan amount?
17:26:41  <planetmaker> it will appear higher :)
17:26:46  <planetmaker> as will all costs
17:27:00  <planetmaker> or lower. If you select GBP instead of USD
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17:53:41  <V453000> well you could use some currency and basecosts with reduction of all costs
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18:10:39  <slee> thinking back on the preconditioning of the people with gov drone use(amazon delivering packages via drone *rolls eyes*) someone could make a 'drone delivery' grf, houses/buildings in towns can place orders, use drones to deliver...factory > drone HQ > house/buildings ....0_o
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18:11:55  <V453000> someone could yeah
18:11:58  <V453000> could also be you
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18:45:41  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26295 /trunk/src/lang (4 files in 2 dirs) (2014-02-04 18:45:31 UTC)
18:45:42  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:45:43  <DorpsGek> danish - 1 changes by phnoggie
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18:57:36  <Wolf01> o/
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19:02:39  <Alberth> \o
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19:32:29  * andythenorth tries to remember how to make money in ttd
19:33:08  <Taede> transport ink and paper to the printers
19:33:22  <andythenorth> ha ha
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19:33:29  <andythenorth> that's a missing chain in FIRS
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19:36:14  <Xaroth|Work> high speed, long distances
19:36:16  <Xaroth|Work> can't miss
19:38:42  <Alberth> buying speed could be explained in a very wrong way :p
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19:41:04  <Eddi|zuHause> i remember some games where it was almost impossible to earn money, especially station costs were harsh (this was pre-infrastructure-maintenance, but maybe it was the fault of some daylength patch)
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20:20:53  <andythenorth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e10tPPjiC6E
20:20:58  <andythenorth> mostly Canadia
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20:48:47  <andythenorth> so bloody quiet
20:49:16  <andythenorth> why are we not moaning about something?
20:50:41  <Pinkbeast> What do you want - cargod*st, UKRS2 vs 2CC, timetable separation, cargo payment, making trains use sensible platforms, people don't use RVs... ?
20:54:04  <Alberth> realism
20:54:49  <Alberth> instead code a few industries from mars :p
20:56:24  * andythenorth not coding anything
20:56:28  <andythenorth> tiredish
20:56:31  <andythenorth> not a codey day
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21:28:43  <andythenorth> hmm
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21:33:05  <andythenorth> oh breakdowns
21:33:08  <andythenorth> how rare
21:33:20  <andythenorth> breakdowns are...broken :)
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22:42:28  <Wolf01> nn
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23:13:39  <slee> i watched 1 of the 3 videos on youtube on freerct....doesn't look like it's ready for heavy game play
23:19:17  <Xaroth|Work> does it have to be?
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23:25:29  <Elyon> ohai
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