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06:36:18 <Supercheese> Yeah, and mail 06:36:24 <Supercheese> passengers don't weigh too much though 06:41:50 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-167-16.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:42:26 *** Jomann [~abchirk@f052205089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.177.202] has joined #openttd 07:12:32 <Pikka> The weight multiplier applies to passenger? <- not as far as I'm aware, unless the UI lies. ;) 07:13:14 <Pikka> it shows, eg, "(x5)" after freight, but not passengers 07:13:57 <Pikka> planetmaker, yes well 07:14:06 <planetmaker> moin Pikka :) 07:14:11 <Pikka> I had to go and get musa, didn't I. 07:14:23 <Pikka> apparently you can't upload 150mb newgrfs with http. who knew? 07:14:24 <planetmaker> dunno, maybe? :) 07:14:34 <Pikka> it's on its way now though. :) 07:14:43 <planetmaker> but yes, for large NewGRFs that seems to be the only way 07:17:51 <planetmaker> I wonder why we don't have a convenient installer yet :) 07:18:23 <Pikka> for musa? 07:18:28 <planetmaker> yes 07:18:40 <planetmaker> or download zip at least 07:18:57 <Pikka> a zip would save at least one step 07:19:03 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/extra/musa.hg/ <-- you can get it here 07:19:13 <planetmaker> select zip on top row 07:19:42 <Pikka> well there you go 07:20:02 <planetmaker> but as it's a python script, you'll also need a working python environment 07:20:05 <Pikka> never mind, reinstalling svn wasn't too much work. :P it might even come in handy for something else. 07:20:14 <planetmaker> that it might, yes :) 07:20:42 <Pikka> it probably won't, seeing as how I've been using this computer for two years now and never had to reinstall it up to now ;) 07:21:18 <planetmaker> :) 07:22:02 <Pikka> 15%! 07:22:31 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 07:22:32 <planetmaker> you'll need a python2 07:22:48 * Pikka is all done, I'm sitting here watching it upload now :) 07:23:06 <Pikka> but yes, I discovered that ;) 07:23:20 <planetmaker> :) 07:23:46 <planetmaker> mind, not python3 :) 07:23:50 <Pikka> yes 07:24:15 <Pikka> python 3 wants parenthesese around ("prints"), I learned that this afternoon... 07:50:16 <Pikka> 62%! 07:50:45 <Pikka> I bet I screwed something up in the config :) 08:01:23 <planetmaker> you will find out whether you uploaded $VERSION :D 08:02:39 <planetmaker> the -d (or --dry-run) option didn't warn me about that. But then $VERSION is perfectly valid :D 08:07:52 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:13:39 <supermop> i wonder why there is so little australian content 08:14:30 <planetmaker> 20-odd million Australians. 08:14:35 <planetmaker> 7 billion other people. 08:14:50 <planetmaker> Percentage is probably grossly over-proportional ;) 08:16:35 <Pikka> done! doesn't look broken! thread edited back. ;) 08:16:50 <Pikka> must be dintimes now. bbs :) 08:17:58 <supermop> they do have a disproportionate number of trams on the ground here 08:32:40 <peter1138> burp 08:36:02 <supermop> downloading a big newgrf... 08:36:10 <supermop> to take some screenshots 08:38:23 <supermop> you weren't kidding this is taking a while 08:42:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:42:20 <andythenorth> Pikka: you could renderise Road Hog for me, then weâd have an RV set in 32bpp 08:42:25 <supermop> download complete!' 08:42:44 <andythenorth> lol 08:42:46 <andythenorth> BAD FEATURES 08:42:52 <supermop> ok now a 64^2 map and screenshots 08:47:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:55:26 <supermop> monorail looks nice 08:55:42 <supermop> not on my EZ 8bpp ogfx tracks though 08:57:47 <planetmaker> they do fit zBase well 09:03:23 <supermop> what am i supposed to use the planet of the apes thing with? is that 32bpp? 09:03:32 <planetmaker> yes 09:03:50 <planetmaker> I use it with zBase, too 09:04:20 <supermop> oh man zbase is even bigger than the trains... 09:04:27 <planetmaker> yeah :) 09:04:27 <supermop> im going to get some food 09:05:08 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/other_tropic2.png <-- basically it looks better with 32bpp houses 09:05:36 <planetmaker> oh, you can't use that landscape in arctic (yet) 09:05:54 <planetmaker> Ghat or Ghats are both in the (sub)tropics ;) 09:06:37 <supermop> Pikka: nice monorail 09:07:02 <supermop> i rain out of space on the 64x64 map to build anything else 09:09:04 <peter1138> non-aa font? :p 09:09:55 <supermop> 59% 09:15:13 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:31:24 *** djura-san [~djura-san@djura-san.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:31:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 09:33:48 <djura-san> Hi there. I was wondering: it option to save status windows positions and geometry in openttd implemented? I think somebody mentioned that thing last year but i'm unsure 09:34:28 <planetmaker> size yes, position not 09:35:09 <djura-san> any ideas when it will it be implemented? It would be very nifty to have it. 09:35:47 <planetmaker> probably when you file a patch 09:35:58 <djura-san> i see. 09:36:41 <planetmaker> there are many nifty ideas. And time is limited for everyone. Thus everyone implements what oneself thinks is the niftyest thing :) 09:38:17 <djura-san> Yeah figured that out. I hoped that it was on roadmap but it was not. Nothing is on roadmap atm. :\ 09:38:48 <andythenorth> he 09:39:12 <planetmaker> hehe. There is no road map :) Nor ever has been really 09:39:56 <planetmaker> it's hard to tell volunteers to do this or that :) 09:40:05 <andythenorth> there was a âmatch most of ttdpâ roadmap item no? 09:40:23 <djura-san> Yes, that is true planetmaker 09:40:38 <planetmaker> There was a 'match all of TTD' road item 09:40:44 <planetmaker> But that's fulfilled 4 years ago :) 09:41:26 <planetmaker> and TTDP was basically fulfilled. Even when some people consider the two most important things still missing ;) 09:41:35 <planetmaker> or three 09:42:06 <planetmaker> some stupid signals, hacky bridge/tunnel heads. And bug-for-bug-compatibility 09:43:34 <supermop> ok the gap between cars when travelling | or _ is pretty large 09:44:55 <planetmaker> yup 09:45:23 <maddy_> djura-san: I think I asked about the same thing once, I wanted savegame to remember open windows and their positions 09:45:34 <djura-san> maddy_: i did, yes. 09:45:44 <djura-san> maddy_: you did, sorry 09:46:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 09:47:01 <maddy_> for me it is just a convenience issue, not like I have lots of windows open at once, so probably not a thing worth of making a patch for 09:54:23 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:54:56 <maddy_> btw, is there any feature/patch for managing the number of trains per station, so that each station will always have a train waiting for cargo? because you need more when production goes up 09:56:21 <maddy_> I guess just checking the station list, and seeing if anyone has undeliver cargo does the trick pretty well 09:58:03 <planetmaker> maddy_, just make a proper rail setup with proper orders. Look for self-regulating network in the coop wiki :) 10:00:58 <maddy_> it is interesting, though slightly different what I was thinkign of 10:03:05 <maddy_> I am thinking, for each station in a list, I would like to see say the number of days the station has had 0 trains waiting, and the number of days where there has been > 1...then I will manually add or remove trains, as required 10:03:39 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 10:04:59 <maddy_> may be time for a small patch which does that, I just don't want to break savegame compability, so it will be runtime thing 10:06:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 10:07:19 <Pikka> hello dr andy 10:07:20 <Pikka> et al 10:10:23 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:13:25 <andythenorth> lo Pikka 10:13:54 <Pikka> hooray! 10:14:12 <Pikka> my first response to pineapple trains is... a bug report which has nothing to do with the grf. :) 10:15:46 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.82.23] has joined #openttd 10:20:53 <djura-san> are you using scenario editors to build something? Can i find some scenarios online just to check them out? 10:39:34 <maddy_> I hope you can find some scenarions on the forums, I have never played scenarios myself so I am not sure 10:47:17 <djura-san> i tried yesterday to create small city and one usable industry to test out some things. TO see how would it sustain. Not bad at all 10:47:29 <djura-san> i'm even thinking to use trains 10:47:59 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-167-16.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: supermop] 10:49:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:20 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 10:52:55 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-87-15.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:53:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.177.202] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:54:39 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 11:07:53 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 11:08:28 *** Invulner [~horse@dyn64-301.yok.fi] has joined #openttd 11:20:40 <Invulner> has anyone succeeded in creating a 3-track railroad where the center track is used for faster trains to overtake slow ones? 11:21:45 <planetmaker> djura-san, has it ever occured to you, djura-san, that the easiest way to retrieve scenarios might be the ingame online content? 11:21:57 <planetmaker> also @ maddy_ ^ 11:27:16 <maddy_> planetmaker: good point, didn't remember that 11:28:18 <maddy_> Invulner: you might be able to do that with waypoints, force slower trains to use the side lines by making waypoints there 11:32:51 <Invulner> the trains already use the side lines, but for some reason the fast trains tend to wait behind the slow ones instead of taking the middle one, they do overtake occasionally but not all the time 11:33:44 <Invulner> here are the layouts i tried http://imgur.com/a/co313#4cKLOab 11:34:55 <Invulner> the last one has no directional signals at all and trains always overtake, but they also like to "swerve" on the track for the shortest route blocking the track in the process 11:37:41 <planetmaker> Invulner, you don't want the signals which face the switches 11:38:44 <Invulner> but how will i set the one-way tracks? 11:40:49 <Invulner> or should i put a single one-way signal right before each switch? 11:42:59 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:43:32 <Invulner> brb 11:44:04 <planetmaker> Invulner, the one-way track is defined by the one-way exit signal 11:44:16 <planetmaker> 'exit'. The one where the train waits to enter the switch 12:03:07 <djura-san> planetmaker: it did not. I will try someday, maybe there is some tiny map with bare resources to kill time. SInce i cant really revive that kind of town no matter how i try :> 12:06:02 <djura-san> btw, expenses in future almost requires for you to expand your transport network in 100y or else you will loose money. Hm, "inflation" option could help with that right? 12:07:30 <maddy_> I play with inflation off, but shouldn't inflation affect both income and expenses equally? 12:08:07 <V453000> it doesnt 12:08:15 <V453000> expenses grow faster 12:08:17 <V453000> for reason X 12:10:50 <maddy_> that feels unfair :( 12:17:21 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:26:28 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:31:35 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:06 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 12:36:08 <Invulner> planetmaker: thank you it helped a lot, the trains still do weird things sometimes but at least they move a lot more 12:38:11 <Invulner> or better said, stop much less 12:38:41 *** djura-san [~djura-san@djura-san.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:42:36 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 12:46:45 <__ln___> https://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/158bcf50-93c1-11e3-8161-12313d1c8ca8-large.png 12:52:05 <peter1138> "Kate Bush concert tickets sell out in 15 minutes" 12:52:06 <peter1138> heh 13:03:48 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:13 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:54 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:33:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:39:33 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 13:44:56 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln___: that is many many years old 13:44:56 *** toker [toker@47.55.88.78] has joined #openttd 13:45:26 <__ln___> :( 13:45:47 <toker> noob question, people are getting map download timeouts on my server, is there anyway to fix that 13:45:57 <toker> it just stops downloading in the middle 13:46:00 <toker> and errors 13:46:45 <Eddi|zuHause> timeouts are set in openttd.cfg 13:47:01 * peter1138 ponders playing with a set witH GOOD FEATURES 13:47:10 <peter1138> hmm, not played dbsetxl for ages 13:47:30 <toker> does that have to be changed on both serverside and player side? 13:47:44 <Eddi|zuHause> toker: no, only serverside 13:47:48 <toker> ok thx 13:51:29 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:23:36 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 14:27:12 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.82.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:39:31 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:40:44 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 14:42:37 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.82.23] has joined #openttd 14:59:24 <peter1138> zbase signals... lol 15:07:17 <Eddi|zuHause> never seen them 15:17:17 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 15:24:41 *** ChickeNES [~ChickeNES@anlextwls003-215.wl.anl-external.org] has joined #openttd 15:24:57 *** ChickeNES [~ChickeNES@anlextwls003-215.wl.anl-external.org] has quit [] 15:30:05 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:40:45 <peter1138> You would if you played with it. They're humongous. 15:55:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 16:07:45 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 16:09:09 <peter1138> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZphHGHiQ5w 16:09:13 <peter1138> I... 16:09:21 <peter1138> andythenorth, andythenorth andythenorth andythenorth andythenorth andythenorth andythenorth 16:13:10 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16:34 <andythenorth> thanks 16:16:58 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 16:18:06 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 16:22:09 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:25:50 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:32:11 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf? 16:33:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd rather listen to my sister singing... 16:38:04 <Eddi|zuHause> seriously, it doesn't even qualify for "so bad it's good" 16:45:05 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:46:38 <Xaroth|Work> http://i.imgur.com/FZD2HcL.jpg 16:55:36 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.0.42] has joined #openttd 17:01:14 *** MrShell [~mrshell@5.158.156.77] has joined #openttd 17:10:08 *** MrShell [~mrshell@5.158.156.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:12:53 <__ln___> Eddi|zuHause: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orv7eJnBgXc 17:14:33 <Eddi|zuHause> if you ever had a sister, you'd know how annoying their singing is. it doesn't even matter if they're bad or good :p 17:15:15 *** Invulner [~horse@dyn64-301.yok.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:16:05 <__ln___> i don't have any 17:21:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AA45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:29:57 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.82.23] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:30:08 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.0.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AA45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31:59 *** rubenwardy [~rubenward@host86-144-211-58.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:37:22 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:48:41 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3CA7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:57:37 <maddy_> how would I go about adding a new string parameter? 17:58:35 <maddy_> which incidentally is just an integer 17:59:00 <planetmaker> string parameter to what? 18:00:04 <maddy_> I am adding an efficiency rating to the station list after the name, so I added {NUM} to the string like this 18:00:08 <maddy_> :{YELLOW}{STATION} {STATION_FEATURES} ({NUM}) 18:00:20 <planetmaker> so you're patching OpenTTD itself? 18:00:37 <maddy_> yes 18:01:42 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:02:07 <planetmaker> I would suggest to look at how a parameter is set in another place 18:02:13 <maddy_> so how do I populate the value at runtime to {NUM}? I found where DrawString is called, can I just set it via SetDParam? 18:02:27 <planetmaker> You need to use SetDParam(num, value) 18:02:37 <glx> it's magic :) 18:02:42 *** toker [toker@0001c460.user.oftc.net] has quit [] 18:03:11 <maddy_> :) 18:04:15 <maddy_> I am making my 2nd ottd patch, yes, in case you're wondering 18:04:26 *** rubenwardy [~rubenward@host86-144-211-58.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: You may notice this notice is not worth noticing] 18:04:40 <planetmaker> build_vehicle_gui.cpp:536 has a nice multi-param example 18:06:25 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 18:06:44 <maddy_> I am trying to calculate station efficiency rating based on number of days if was empty, and number of days there were > 1 trains 18:07:41 <maddy_> if the rating is < 0, there were days the station was empty, and if > 0, there were days the station had multiple trains 18:08:53 <planetmaker> maddy_, that sounds similar to what the actual station rating does... 18:10:43 <maddy_> yeah, you are right, it may be a bit redundant, it is a little different though 18:11:39 <maddy_> by station rating you mean cargo rating? 18:12:27 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26432 trunk/config.lib (2014-03-28 18:12:21 UTC) 18:12:28 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: deduplicate code for checking pkg-config dependencies 18:18:53 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3CA7.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:19:54 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26433 trunk/config.lib (2014-03-28 18:19:48 UTC) 18:19:55 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: use pkg-config for libpng as well 18:20:59 <peter1138> herdygurr 18:28:42 <__ln___> http://www.samsungtechwin.com/product/product_05_01_01.asp 18:31:53 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A815.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:39:28 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 18:39:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:40:01 <Wolf01> ciao o/ 18:42:57 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:46:13 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26434 /trunk/src/lang (5 files) (2014-03-28 18:46:02 UTC) 18:46:14 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:46:15 <DorpsGek> dutch - 2 changes by habell 18:46:16 <DorpsGek> finnish - 1 changes by jpx_ 18:46:17 <DorpsGek> hebrew - 14 changes by oofnik 18:46:18 <DorpsGek> korean - 2 changes by telk5093 18:46:19 <DorpsGek> swedish - 1 changes by d0tt 19:00:48 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d013378.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:41 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26435 trunk/config.lib (2014-03-28 19:18:36 UTC) 19:18:43 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r26434): linking issue on OS X 19:19:14 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: s/autorefit/autoreplace/ 19:19:28 <Eddi|zuHause> bwhÀ 19:20:55 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:22:23 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: fixed (i hope) 19:44:13 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:45:57 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:47:27 <maddy_> any tips on why I can't create an iterator? http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3204/ 19:48:37 <frosch123> it's a const function 19:48:42 <frosch123> you need to use a const_iterator 19:50:29 <maddy_> thanks 19:50:38 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:36 <maddy_> I added a new setting to StationSettings which is a client setting, but StationSettings in not in ClientSettings, can I add it without probs/other fixes? 20:01:24 <frosch123> i don't think so 20:01:25 <maddy_> or, optionally, I will move it under GUI settings.. 20:01:50 <frosch123> game settings exists for current game and new game 20:01:53 <frosch123> client settings only exist once 20:05:12 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 20:08:28 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:27 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-87-15.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 20:14:36 <fjb> Moin. 20:15:27 <frosch123> hola 20:15:46 <fjb> Quak frosch123 20:16:01 <Pikka> si 20:17:21 <fjb> Moin Pikka 20:17:27 <Pikka> moin 20:18:06 <peter1138> wehfguiwehfg 20:19:01 <fjb> Moin peter1138 20:19:58 <Supercheese> I see the simple "Set running costs to 1/4 when speed = 0" is the new "preferred" variable running cost scheme 20:20:10 <Supercheese> seems good to me 20:20:38 <Supercheese> or wait, are variable running costs "BAD FEATURES"? :P 20:20:50 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:58 <frosch123> are they new? 20:21:23 <Pikka> they're probably a WORSE FEATURE the more subtle you try and get with them 20:21:28 <Supercheese> I've been restraining myself from posting in that thread 20:21:35 <Supercheese> I figure nothing good could come from it :\ 20:21:47 <frosch123> wasn't it fun? 20:21:49 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 20:22:15 <Pikka> nars and ukrs do ridiculously complex things with variable running costs that make absolutely no difference to the way anyone plays the game. ;) 20:22:36 <maddy_> I guess OnTick_Station() is called once per day? 20:22:59 <frosch123> if it says "OnTick", it is probably called once per tick :p 20:23:04 <frosch123> 74 ticks make a day 20:24:02 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 20:25:10 <Eddi|zuHause> unless you use a daylength patch 20:25:24 <maddy_> nope, stock trunk 20:31:07 *** Jerik [~Jerik@c-68-80-55-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:37:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:39:18 <frosch123> hmm... nuts+pineapple+ironhorse is quite a combo 20:39:28 <frosch123> animals+fruits+mechanics 20:39:38 <frosch123> what could be missing? 20:39:47 <Pikka> coffee and cake 20:40:58 <Pikka> you should also have dbset for maximum realism 20:41:28 <frosch123> nah, i grew tired of that 20:42:01 <frosch123> also vapourware is not that realistic 20:42:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.174.148] has joined #openttd 20:42:52 <Pikka> shouldn't it be dampfware? ;) 20:43:46 <frosch123> nope, "dampf" is a bit more than "heiÃe luft" 20:45:55 <andythenorth> frosch123: itâs not vapourware 20:46:24 <Pikka> frosch123, true, but "dampflok" and db set... such puns and sim'lar. 20:46:25 <andythenorth> naughty frosch123 20:46:40 <Pikka> morgen andythenorth 20:46:45 <andythenorth> Pikka: what do you think of steampunk, as a thing? 20:47:29 <fjb> Moin andythenorth 20:47:51 <frosch123> https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSR1dQ_XrNk-XR3-jS4euZF1ei1eozUn-397A2F6R9BEfxBXoD-dA <- andythenorth: needs extra zoom though 20:48:05 <andythenorth> :) 20:51:23 <Pikka> as a thing, not much, although it depends what you have in mind andy. 20:52:32 <andythenorth> I dunno 20:52:37 <andythenorth> I always want to like steampunk 20:52:43 <andythenorth> then I see it, and I donât like it :P 20:52:56 <andythenorth> but I wondered about some kind of alternative set 20:53:02 <andythenorth> mad max style or something 20:53:08 <andythenorth> or heath robinson 20:53:17 <andythenorth> industries and vehicles and such 20:54:20 <frosch123> a 32bpp industry set which has a big alpha- fog layer over the industries? :p 20:54:32 <frosch123> steam everywhere? 20:54:46 <frosch123> sometimes darker smoke? 20:54:48 * andythenorth looks at diesel punk 20:57:18 <frosch123> i guess i prefer steampunk over diesel- or atompunk 20:58:00 <Pikka> what about punkpunk 20:58:06 <andythenorth> good point 20:58:13 <andythenorth> http://digital-art-gallery.com/oid/101/1600x900_17628_Nfz_w43_3d_automotive_retro_truck_dieselpunk_retrofuturism_picture_image_digital_art.jpg 20:58:40 <andythenorth> http://s.cghub.com/files/Image/269001-270000/269473/501_max.jpg 20:58:58 <frosch123> that could also be part of a animated movie 20:59:07 <frosch123> though it is not red 20:59:40 <frosch123> (the former) 20:59:49 <frosch123> it also looks somwhat ship-ish 21:02:11 <andythenorth> all the *punk stuff isnât what Iâm looking for 21:02:57 <frosch123> the fantasy genre is already covered by nuts 21:03:07 <Pikka> you said it 21:03:18 <frosch123> maybe there is still potential for science fiction 21:03:34 <andythenorth> the stuff Iâm thinking of actually mostly exists 21:03:39 <andythenorth> in places like India 21:05:40 <andythenorth> canât find good pictures 21:05:41 <andythenorth> nvm 21:05:52 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: I am +1 to your BAD FEATURES in default set 21:06:20 <Phreeze> lol 21:06:30 <Phreeze> still in that bad features mood ? 21:06:43 <juzza1> you forgot the uppercase 21:06:50 <Phreeze> people have problems in ottd world nowadays^^ 21:07:35 <andythenorth> so does your mum 21:08:39 <frosch123> was your mum offended by the thread? 21:08:52 <andythenorth> she hasnât seen it yet 21:08:54 <andythenorth> but probably is 21:11:19 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 21:19:40 * andythenorth should make newgrf 21:19:56 <LordAro> again? 21:20:26 <juzza1> steampunk? then you need to make a baseset too :P 21:20:37 <Phreeze> madmaxset ;) 21:20:44 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [] 21:33:53 <Pikka> andythenorth should go 32bpp ez :D 21:33:57 <andythenorth> :( 21:34:13 <Pikka> it's fun! and you get to make 200mb grfs 21:34:17 <andythenorth> ha 21:34:29 <andythenorth> I would sooner have a 640x480 resolution :P 21:34:33 <andythenorth> would achieve same result 21:35:55 <andythenorth> is sugar beet a mining cargo? 21:36:34 <Pikka> sugar doesn't come from mines/ 21:36:35 <Pikka> ? 21:36:40 <Pikka> toyland lies? 21:38:17 <andythenorth> mining truck refitting sugar beet 21:38:21 <andythenorth> silly old âbulkâ class 21:38:26 <frosch123> sugar mines exist where the fifth elephant lost his lolly 21:42:42 * andythenorth sleepy time 21:42:46 <andythenorth> bye 21:42:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:57:59 *** FLHerne [~FLHerne@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:21:05 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:48:49 <frosch123> night 22:48:52 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d013378.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:52:19 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 22:53:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AA45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:58:29 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-7-166.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:13 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:10:28 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:16:17 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:38 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:17:00 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:20:20 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:30:45 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:32:13 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.13.224.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 23:38:01 <Wolf01> 'night 23:38:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:54:24 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]