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00:20:43 *** Brumi [~quassel@78.131.41.191] has quit [] 00:24:15 <peter1139> https://twitter.com/Independent/status/466587246288973824/photo/1 00:25:49 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:34:15 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:8992:7fa8:8c8b:4fe8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53:31 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58:43 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-155-165.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:16 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 01:29:27 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:24 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:37:53 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-112-137.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 01:39:58 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-85-3.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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[www.adiirc.com]] 03:09:56 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-49-72.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 03:15:15 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-87-124.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:20:49 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-111-111.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 03:25:16 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-49-72.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:32:38 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:34:32 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.9.52.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:44:24 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-120.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:47:44 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-34-193.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 03:52:25 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-111-111.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:52:52 <supermop> new mouse is here 04:05:22 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:08:03 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-106-97.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 04:11:34 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-34-193.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:37:53 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 04:46:07 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67D2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67291.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:58:45 *** bdavenport [~davenport@aeolus.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 05:00:24 *** bdavenport [~davenport@aeolus.mindlesstux.com] has quit [] 05:01:05 *** bdavenport [~davenport@aeolus.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 05:24:56 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:19:56 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 06:56:01 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-85-3.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 07:12:32 *** lugo [lugo@192.249.56.28] has quit [Quit: I'm using a Free IRC Bouncer from BNC4FREE - http://bnc4free.com/] 07:18:28 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:20:31 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has joined #openttd 07:22:42 *** JerikTelorian [~Jerik@c-68-80-55-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:23:34 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:29:18 <supermop> anyone here have any ideas about a running a tiny little server for essentially only openttd? 07:29:47 <supermop> something that is a little square box and doesn't use too much power 07:30:20 <planetmaker> the cheapest way, including electricity, would probably be to rent a cheap VPS 07:34:19 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:36:45 <Flygon> I'm with planetmaker 07:37:12 <Flygon> You can get cheap VPS's from a decent provider if you look about 07:41:41 <Xaroth|Work> wonder how much a raspberry pi can power, server-wise 07:41:44 <Xaroth|Work> probably not -that- much 07:47:56 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:31:20 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:31:20 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.168.114] has joined #openttd 09:42:48 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:46:36 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:49:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.190.8] has joined #openttd 09:53:22 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:55:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.168.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:06:34 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:315f:40d5:cc44:bfe6] has joined #openttd 10:21:42 <peter1139> Enough for a small game. We're sadly rather expensive, as servers go. 10:26:22 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 10:37:50 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 10:38:05 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:38:05 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:06:35 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:19:59 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@d44172.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: reboot] 11:32:30 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:33:45 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 11:34:04 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@d44172.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:44:03 <Xaroth|Work> peter1139: not that bad tbqfh, stuff like minecraft is 10 times worse 11:51:07 <supermop> how cheap is cheap? 11:57:49 <Eddi|zuHause> # chirpy chirpy cheep cheep 11:58:08 <Eddi|zuHause> (man that is a stupid song :p) 11:58:16 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 11:59:28 <supermop> i am glad i don't know it then 11:59:42 <supermop> my new mouse is glowing brightly, Eddi|zuHause 11:59:57 <supermop> every bit as ugly as I hoped/feared 11:59:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure you've heard it, it's quite old 12:00:12 <supermop> german? 12:00:16 <Eddi|zuHause> no 12:00:28 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:01:03 <supermop> are we talking 1940s country? 1870s folk? 1950s pop? 12:01:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i think 70's 12:02:32 <supermop> i was thinking a box the size of my router to run linux and ottd server, sitting next to my router 12:02:41 <supermop> but i hadn't thought of vps 12:08:41 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:16:49 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@169.72.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:20:15 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.113.164.12] has joined #openttd 12:29:07 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:33:41 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.83.190] has joined #openttd 12:37:28 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:315f:40d5:cc44:bfe6] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:49:35 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-120.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: supermop] 12:55:21 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-169-2-218.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 12:58:56 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@177.17.22.86] has joined #openttd 13:01:10 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.113.83.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:17 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 13:03:09 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.22.86] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04:36 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.22.86] has joined #openttd 13:29:05 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.22.86] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:05 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 14:00:54 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:03:56 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:08:05 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:315f:40d5:cc44:bfe6] has joined #openttd 14:18:20 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:27:15 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:59 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:315f:40d5:cc44:bfe6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:05 <Taede> ello 14:43:36 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 14:54:31 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:54:42 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 14:59:20 *** efess [~Efess@c-50-169-48-221.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:30:17 *** codewaffle [~cw@75.128.184.49] has joined #openttd 15:30:42 <codewaffle> so I'm running 1.4 and have nothing but FIRS installed, haven't played in a few years... can't seem to refit oil tanker cars to carry gasoline/chemicals 15:31:00 <codewaffle> not sure if I have to wait for them to become available or if I'm doing something wrong 15:31:28 <Taede> nothing but firs, so you are running original vehicles, at least for ships? 15:31:38 <Taede> original vehicles can only carry original cargoes afaik 15:32:09 <Taede> unless you also use old vehicles new cargoes newgrf, or newgrf's for each vehicle type you intend to use 15:32:37 <codewaffle> ah 15:34:08 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:42:07 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:42:30 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:44:03 *** NGC982 [~kruger@h215n4-vj-d3.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:45:38 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:49:31 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:49:34 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:57:05 *** LSky` [lskynl@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:13:12 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:19:08 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01d42a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:19:15 <Alberth> hai 16:21:36 <LordAro> quak 16:21:51 <frosch123> hola 16:23:25 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:315f:40d5:cc44:bfe6] has joined #openttd 16:23:30 <planetmaker> o/ 16:24:42 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:24:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 16:27:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AEA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:30:45 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-112-137.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:52 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-169-2-218.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:54:56 *** efess [~Efess@c-50-169-48-221.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:56:20 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-169-2-218.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 16:58:11 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:315f:40d5:cc44:bfe6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:14:17 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AA1C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:19:24 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:28:56 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:91cb:ae7c:81c9:32c9] has joined #openttd 17:40:47 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:45:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AEA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:35 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26588 /trunk/src/lang (english_US.txt slovak.txt) (2014-05-15 17:45:25 UTC) 17:45:36 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:37 <DorpsGek> english_US - 1 changes by Supercheese 17:45:38 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 3 changes by 17:45:39 <DorpsGek> slovak - 15 changes by Milsa 18:00:07 *** efess [~Efess@c-50-169-48-221.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:06:49 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:16 *** APTX [~APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 18:09:14 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-0-12-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 18:09:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:15:31 <andythenorth> lo 18:15:32 <Alberth> evenink 18:15:41 <andythenorth> anything? 18:15:50 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 18:15:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host222-204-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:16:06 <Alberth> opengfx mars needs more love 18:16:09 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 18:16:18 <Wolf01> hi hi 18:17:06 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 18:25:28 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-0-12-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:50 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:37:17 *** TheMask96- [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:43:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:47:00 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has joined #openttd 18:47:28 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:14 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-155-165.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 19:01:31 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:09:29 <andythenorth> ottd is dying 19:09:30 <andythenorth> again 19:09:38 <Alberth> still 19:09:44 <andythenorth> always 19:09:49 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@10.87.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 19:10:47 <andythenorth> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/26582/ looks interesting 19:12:20 <andythenorth> does this have the side effect of decaying cargo at transfers? 19:14:07 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it applies to transfer stations as well 19:14:10 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:13 <andythenorth> well thatâs interesting 19:17:22 <andythenorth> Iâll have to change play style :) 19:17:28 <andythenorth> or maybe not 19:17:42 <andythenorth> maybe I just donât have so many stations with 10k tonnes awaiting pickup :P 19:18:21 <Samu> i have an idea for the list of company's stations 19:19:01 <Samu> there's the station name, vehicle type, then cargoes waiting 19:19:27 <Samu> when pointing to a cargo in one of the stations, it should popup the estimated number of cargo waiting 19:19:35 <Samu> the real value, without having to click 19:20:12 <Samu> it could also say the cargo rating % 19:21:27 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: it doesn't matter if there are 10k waiting. just whether you haven't picked anything up for 2 years 19:22:19 <Eddi|zuHause> Samu: so like a tooltip? 19:22:30 <Eddi|zuHause> seems plausible... 19:22:33 <Samu> when pointing to the vehicle type icon of a station, it could tell how many vehicles of that type have that station in its orders, let's say, an airport station, with an aircraft icon, it could tell that I have x numbers of aircraft visiting it 19:22:34 <Samu> yes 19:22:56 <Eddi|zuHause> go implement it! 19:23:08 <Samu> gah, it's not for me to implement, just suggesting it 19:23:21 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody else will do it... 19:25:08 <Samu> and the other day someone joked about crashed vehicles and openttd not being a graveyard or so 19:25:38 <Samu> well, there could exist a small group of destroyed vehicles somewhere 19:25:50 <andythenorth> anythign? 19:25:50 <andythenorth> or that cargo? 19:26:16 <Samu> mostly to keep track of it's orders and what it was carrying 19:26:21 <Samu> only informative 19:26:41 <Samu> not real vehicles 19:30:37 <Samu> a listing of destroyed vehicles 19:31:06 <Eddi|zuHause> that cargo 19:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause> Samu: the destroyed vehicle stays around for about a month 19:31:52 <Samu> teh story book could fit the graveyard purpose 19:33:54 <Samu> i know, but that's sometimes needs full attention 19:36:58 <Eddi|zuHause> click on newsmessage, open depot, ctrl+clone, start, done... 19:37:09 <Eddi|zuHause> what's "full attention" about that? 19:37:58 <Eddi|zuHause> then figure out why the vehicle crashed and resolve that situation for the future 19:38:08 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 19:38:12 <Eddi|zuHause> like turn off random plane crashes 19:38:25 <Eddi|zuHause> build a bridge over the rails 19:38:36 <Eddi|zuHause> don't mess with signals while trains are near 19:41:03 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 19:44:52 <andythenorth> donât build PBS on a line with existing trains running and no previous signalling 19:46:28 <Supercheese> just rm all non-path signals 19:46:39 <Supercheese> I've never understood them anyway 19:46:55 <Supercheese> well except basic block, which are plain dumb 19:47:26 <Supercheese> and they're a pain in the ass to translate 19:51:15 <frosch123> night 19:51:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01d42a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 19:58:45 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@10.87.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:59 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-85-93.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 20:10:33 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 20:18:50 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 20:23:51 *** TheMask97- [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 20:24:16 <Samu> land contours on map bug 20:24:46 <Samu> 0 m, 200 m, 400 m, 600 m, 700 m 20:25:15 *** TheMask96- [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:25:25 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25:48 <Rubidium> why? 20:26:07 <Samu> it should be 100m, 200 m, 300 m, 400 m, 500 m 20:26:08 <andythenorth> we bother with that crap? 20:26:24 <Rubidium> why should it be that? 20:26:25 <andythenorth> itâs just low-high in my head :P 20:26:44 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 20:26:56 <Supercheese> the height values mean nothing anyway 20:27:01 <Supercheese> they're 100% arbitrary 20:27:03 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:09 <Samu> ah 20:27:13 <Rubidium> 50 meter per height level, lowest = 0, highest = 15. So min is 0 m, 750 is max 20:27:27 <Samu> 50? 20:27:32 <Supercheese> arbitrary 20:27:36 <Supercheese> could be 100 20:27:41 <Supercheese> could be 1e17 20:28:01 <Samu> 50 m, 100 m, 150 m, 200 m, 250 m then? 20:28:03 <Supercheese> I presume the current value was chosen because "it sounds good" 20:28:16 <Samu> 0 m is sea level i believe 20:28:40 <Rubidium> which is perfectly valid as a height level 20:28:53 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 20:28:57 <Supercheese> It doesn't sound like he's complaining, 0m sea level sounds fine 20:28:58 <Rubidium> after all, 90+% of the Netherlands is less than 50m high 20:29:17 <Samu> 0 m is colored green, so it's not water 20:29:46 <Rubidium> in any case, it is NOT a bug 20:30:49 <Samu> okay, not a bug 20:31:03 <andythenorth> Moar Bugs 20:31:22 <Rubidium> I'd rather have boar mugs 20:32:13 *** TheMask97- [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:02 <Supercheese> that can be arranged 20:34:27 <Samu> map contours screenshot TTDX vs OTTD: https://public.dm2302.livefilestore.com/y2peLvkp6lfQFm-se4Ba-IPiMAxeOOrm3otvb98t43XQR9JabssKBFTJiBNAz0I8cTaMwkOFggthW6tsTG6TondhGcpjFfI-v1AMSGfAy2uzUU/map%20contours.png?psid=1 20:35:14 <andythenorth> a smug rob 20:35:45 <andythenorth> or gas bum 20:35:51 <Rubidium> so, TTDX was bugged 20:35:54 <andythenorth> or bum gas 20:35:58 * andythenorth digresses 20:36:04 <Rubidium> after all, sea level isn't at 100 m 20:36:25 <andythenorth> shameful 20:36:59 <Rubidium> even then, there are several ways to calculate what the height of a tile should be 20:37:18 <Rubidium> so whatever value you use, it's wrong in more cases than it will be right 20:37:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm at heightlevel 2 20:37:44 <Eddi|zuHause> or something 20:38:26 <andythenorth> we should remove all these fricking units 20:38:46 <Samu> there can be land at sea level, 0 m 20:38:50 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@D97BA885.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 20:39:06 <Samu> lowering land that isn't touching water 20:39:41 <andythenorth> Samu: try the canals trick ;) 20:39:44 <andythenorth> itâs not a cheat 20:39:58 <andythenorth> itâs my favourite unintended consequence 20:39:59 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: YES! ... IN YOUR FACE BASIC SCHOOL TEACHER ASKING "5 WHAT? SAUSAGES?" 20:40:30 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: a suppressed memory? :o 20:40:32 <Samu> i see ppl building tunnels when they lower land to sea level 20:40:53 <Samu> they risk a flood though 20:41:23 <andythenorth> yes 20:41:56 <Eddi|zuHause> you can use canals to stop a flood 20:42:57 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-85-93.bredband.comhem.se] has left #openttd [] 20:43:49 * andythenorth wants to play ottd again 20:43:52 <andythenorth> but can't 20:43:58 <andythenorth> because Eddi|zuHause didnât write a GS yet 20:44:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i did write a GS 20:44:15 <andythenorth> you did? :o 20:44:15 <Eddi|zuHause> some 2 years ago 20:44:23 <Eddi|zuHause> it didn't do much though 20:44:24 <SpComb> print "Hello World" 20:44:27 <Eddi|zuHause> and is probably broken now 20:44:29 <andythenorth> you should write a GS generator 20:44:36 <andythenorth> more your style I think :) 20:44:46 <andythenorth> from [goals] generate [random stuff] 20:44:53 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: it did a voronoi partition over all cities of the map to find their neighbours 20:45:13 <Samu> the graveyard story book 20:45:29 <andythenorth> classify goals, put them in a simple structure (json or something), generate? 20:45:34 <Eddi|zuHause> the idea was to partition the map into countries and regions 20:45:34 <Samu> keeps track of destroyed vehicles' orders and cargo 20:45:47 <andythenorth> quite specialist :P 20:45:49 <Samu> just logs it 20:45:50 <andythenorth> I donât know 20:46:06 <andythenorth> given that limit is 1 GS per game, I wouldnât waste mine on that :) 20:46:11 <Eddi|zuHause> but then i had no inspiration what to do, and i get sidetracked after 3 days... 20:46:36 <andythenorth> partition, meet arbitrary goals in each territory to unlock next 20:46:46 <andythenorth> sounds unexciting, but would be fun to play 20:46:53 <andythenorth> guaranteed, or your money back 20:47:04 <andythenorth> this modal is interesting 20:47:08 <andythenorth> âcancel' doesnât 20:47:16 <andythenorth> it just goes ahead and deletes 20:47:20 <andythenorth> customers wonât like that 20:48:04 <Eddi|zuHause> one thing it could do is that when countries go to war it blocks the tracks, so vehicles can't pass the border anymore 20:48:16 <andythenorth> suitably evil 20:48:27 <andythenorth> can you end the war by delivering stuff 20:48:30 <SpComb> sounds like a gross simplification of international politics 20:48:34 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: "are you sure? [Yes] [Hell Yes]"? 20:48:34 <andythenorth> also isnât war banned? :P 20:49:08 <Samu> Graveyard story - "On 2nd February 1955, Truck 1 of Company 1 was destroyed. It was transporting 21 tonnes of Coal out of 21 tonnes of Coal with Stations A and B on it's orders." 20:49:14 <SpComb> *Hell Yeah 20:49:27 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: so which part of the game is not a gross simplification of anything? 20:49:35 <Samu> "It was destroyed by Train 1 of Company 2. 20:49:42 <andythenorth> anything by a dedicated train fan 20:49:55 <andythenorth> the foamers are out for a 1:1 model 20:50:28 <Samu> "Manager of Company 1, named Player1 was dissatisfied with Player2 of Company 2" 20:50:33 <Samu> something like that 20:56:59 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:00:20 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:17:23 *** dyrim [sid28134@id-28134.charlton.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 21:21:48 <Samu> Im trying to put this on excel, but I don't know how to do it, wanted to create easy graphs for that formula 21:21:51 <Samu> http://wiki.openttd.org/Cargo_income 21:22:20 <Samu> is it a function? 21:23:33 <Eddi|zuHause> "IF"? 21:24:14 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly there exists a "piecewise" thingy 21:26:45 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:17 *** dyrim [sid28134@id-28134.charlton.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 21:36:57 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:91cb:ae7c:81c9:32c9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:32 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:91cb:ae7c:81c9:32c9] has joined #openttd 22:02:16 <Eddi|zuHause> would the game be equally addictive if it was called "11" and linear instead of exponential? 22:04:58 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 22:06:44 *** LSky` [lskynl@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 22:11:13 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:11:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:28:38 <Samu> i dont understand what is the max for 22:28:45 <Samu> on that formula 22:29:16 <Samu> max(31,255) 22:29:21 <Samu> will that return 255? 22:29:32 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:31:12 <Samu> http://wiki.openttd.org/images/4/4b/Income_Formula.png 22:32:27 <Samu> Max(31, (if t<=Cdays then 255)) will this result in 255? 22:32:49 <Eddi|zuHause> Samu: the 31 is the minimum value 22:33:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and "max" is certainly an excel formula 22:33:42 <Samu> yes I found it, its almost "there" 22:33:51 <Samu> but this max is confusing me a bit 22:34:37 <Samu> is it even possible to have a value below 31 from that { branch? 22:35:05 <Eddi|zuHause> lots of - in there 22:35:56 <Samu> okay, let me try a different cargo, I was testing with coal values 22:36:04 <Eddi|zuHause> assume c_Days1=c_Days2=0 22:36:19 <Eddi|zuHause> then t=128 will already result in -1 22:36:50 <Eddi|zuHause> also "days" is a misnomer, it's "cargo age steps", which is 185 ticks by default, but can be changed by NewGRFs 22:37:06 <Eddi|zuHause> 185 ticks is 2.5 days 22:38:25 <Eddi|zuHause> someone should probably clean that up one "day" :p 22:39:07 <Samu> aha, got it with food 22:39:19 <Samu> got a result of 14 22:39:23 <Samu> Max(31,14) = 31, right? 22:39:35 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 22:40:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i believe there is also a maximum cargo age of 255 22:40:50 <Eddi|zuHause> which is like 2 years 23:21:09 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AA1C.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 23:25:54 <Samu> which monetary unit is the Income result? 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