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00:07:15 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10:03 *** DanMacK [~0a0a6574@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:18:14 *** MJP_ [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:20:20 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:21:29 *** drhese [~drhese@coldnorth.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31:09 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 00:36:05 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:36:06 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:26:13 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:26:23 *** drhese [~drhese@coldnorth.org] has joined #openttd 01:45:12 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:99c3:88b6:254c:5886] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:55 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-120.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:28:47 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:35:23 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:19:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C1EC.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:28:46 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 03:35:25 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 03:56:44 *** JGR_ [~JGR@host86-136-200-118.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:59:43 *** JGR [~JGR@host81-129-182-29.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:39:24 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@93.198.112.221] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4C17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:07:42 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 05:08:58 *** LSky` [LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 05:27:18 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:52:46 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-227-48.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 05:59:04 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:12:58 *** bdavenport [~davenport@aeolus.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:15:01 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:16:09 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:36:50 <planetmaker> moin 06:38:14 <V453000> moo 06:39:29 *** Stranger [~0a0a6574@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 06:39:53 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:04:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:09:58 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 07:34:27 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:45:58 *** Stranger [~0a0a6574@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:46:10 *** Stranger [~0a0a6574@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 08:46:22 <Stranger> Well good night 08:46:35 <Stranger> or....good day.... 08:47:36 <V453000> asdf 08:53:47 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 08:54:40 *** Stranger [~0a0a6574@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:55:41 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-84-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 08:57:55 *** Tanguy [~tanguy@2a01:e34:ee8f:150:82ee:73ff:fe43:b876] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02:43 *** Tanguy [~tanguy@2a01:e34:ee8f:150:82ee:73ff:fe43:b876] has joined #openttd 09:27:37 *** Jensen1986 [5da22b66@109.169.29.95] has joined #openttd 09:29:55 <Jensen1986> Anyone? 09:31:37 <planetmaker> no-one 09:32:13 <Jensen1986> Grea 09:32:15 <Jensen1986> great 09:32:30 <Jensen1986> How do i get sound to Work on a saved game? 09:33:16 <planetmaker> sound settings are not part of a savegame. In the music tool (main toolbar ingame when map is loaded) 09:33:31 <planetmaker> you might need to install a music and / or sound set from online content 09:34:58 <Jensen1986> But is it possible to make the sound Work in a saved game? I dont have to start all over. 09:48:28 <V453000> just open the sound menu 10:01:21 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@46.246.119.109] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 10:02:39 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@46.246.119.109] has joined #openttd 10:08:48 <Jensen1986> thx alot. 10:16:04 <V453000> didnt say much 10:20:08 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 10:20:37 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.245] has joined #openttd 10:35:58 <Jensen1986> oh.. I thought you ment open the sound menu and insert the downloaded soundmix.. 10:44:44 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 10:52:55 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@79.169.2.218] has joined #openttd 11:21:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.161.194] has joined #openttd 11:32:46 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:4da2:2413:8bac:49b8] has joined #openttd 11:43:53 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:55:04 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:49 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:15:04 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:26 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:24:10 *** Jensen1986 [5da22b66@109.169.29.95] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:35:58 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 13:08:54 *** bdavenport [~davenport@aeolus.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 13:22:45 *** fkinglag [~fkinglag@c-76-17-226-121.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 13:24:17 <fkinglag> hello, is it possible to measure how long a train's route is? 13:25:48 <V453000> no, no reason to either 13:31:42 <fkinglag> oh 13:32:58 <LordAro> it'd be nice if we had a way to measure distance in some way though 13:33:06 <LordAro> for aeroplane range, at least 13:37:59 <V453000> part of the reason why plane range is a stupid feature 13:39:44 <fkinglag> plane range is strange 13:42:14 <Xaroth|Work> fuel capacity 13:42:24 <Xaroth|Work> but then again, so do trucks, busses and non-el trains 13:46:38 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:59:11 <Pinkbeast> Yes, but with the occasional exception of steam locomotives they can so easily refuel in transit it's not worth worrying about. 14:01:00 <Xaroth|Work> planes however 14:06:14 <Pinkbeast> I think what I really mean is that diesel land vehicles typically have huge fuel capacity relative to their normal duties - if a lorry refuels every time the driver has a meal or rest stop, say, it'll never need to make a specific stop for fuel. 14:06:28 <Pinkbeast> A diesel locomotive is fuelled overnight at the depor. 14:06:30 <Pinkbeast> *depot 14:06:49 <Pinkbeast> But a plane really does have a constrained range and stopping just for fuel is a bit more dramatic 14:30:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.161.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:36:46 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has joined #openttd 14:39:48 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:15 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:44:53 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 14:52:32 <planetmaker> fkinglag, what do you want to measure? time? distance? 14:53:03 <planetmaker> the distance is difficult, but you can look at station coordinates. The time can be looked-up, if you have it fill-out a time table in the orders 14:55:58 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.245] has joined #openttd 14:58:08 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:06:46 *** rubenwardy [~rubenward@host86-136-183-97.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:07:15 *** luaduck_zzz [~luaduck@2001:470:1f09:862::1111] has joined #openttd 15:07:37 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 15:16:07 *** luaduck [~luaduck@2001:470:1f09:862::1111] has quit [Quit: OH MY GOD ZNC IS SO FUCKING AWESOME] 15:23:13 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:12 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:28:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:33:31 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 15:34:10 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:33 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:44:01 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:01:54 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-9420.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 16:05:30 <Phreeze> revisiting all the luxembourgish strings...corrected already about 150...OMG... 16:05:40 * Phreeze wants an autoreplace function 16:06:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19EE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:06:21 <planetmaker> if you need a mass-replacement, then submit the corrected file to the bug tracker 16:06:57 <Phreeze> just seen that it would result in a mess, ass i have to check them per case 16:07:13 <Phreeze> in fact, some words dont take a "T" at the end 16:07:29 <planetmaker> :) Then do it piecewise. But then wt3 is good enough :) 16:07:34 <Phreeze> but if the word is alreadycorrect, and the translation is like blablatype, you cant just replace it 16:07:41 <Phreeze> it would result in blablaype 16:08:13 <Phreeze> yep, the webtranslator is ace if you had ever to work with get-localization.... 16:08:39 <Phreeze> (still the forms are not long enough ^^) 16:08:47 <planetmaker> I agree there 16:08:49 <Phreeze> "input-type text" <- 16:09:02 <Phreeze> but someone once said it's technically not doable 16:09:10 <planetmaker> did you use devzone's web translator? 16:09:48 <Alberth> I think that one needs work to make it usable for openttd strings 16:10:01 <planetmaker> it's somewhat the spiritual successor and solves that better there imho 16:10:03 <Alberth> xussr set is already very slow to browse 16:10:03 <Phreeze> http://translator.openttd.org/en/edit 16:10:05 <Phreeze> i use that one 16:10:18 <planetmaker> Phreeze, yes, for OpenTTD there's no other 16:10:26 <Phreeze> ah yeah the devzone 16:10:31 <Phreeze> yes i used it already 16:10:32 <planetmaker> yeah 16:10:38 <Phreeze> ogfx trains etc 16:10:49 *** fairc [~richard@g225042169.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:12:10 *** fairc [~richard@g225042169.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 16:13:13 <planetmaker> so I still believe that eints can be adopted, if someone [TM] rewrites the rest of OpenTTD pages into python3 :P 16:13:56 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:14:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.161.194] has joined #openttd 16:15:27 <Alberth> you probably need to split loading of languages 16:15:58 <Alberth> saving and loading for each change is a bit slow :) 16:16:28 <Phreeze> http://www.lightspeed-classic.de/ 16:16:32 <Phreeze> someone give me 160k eur pls 16:17:15 <Alberth> oh, just another thing on 4 wheels :p 16:17:21 <planetmaker> haha :) 16:17:26 <planetmaker> 'blue car' :P 16:17:51 <planetmaker> tbh, I'd know better things to buy with 160k⬠16:18:01 <Phreeze> someone got an idea when 1.4.1 comes out ? 16:18:08 <Phreeze> approx 16:18:11 <planetmaker> yes 16:18:12 <planetmaker> yes 16:18:13 <planetmaker> :P 16:18:20 <Phreeze> "when it's done" [TM] ? :) 16:18:29 <planetmaker> also yes :) 16:18:34 <Phreeze> gnaaa 16:18:36 <Alberth> probably less than a decade from now 16:18:40 <Phreeze> k 16:18:41 <planetmaker> week maybe? 16:18:53 <Phreeze> i have to check the rest of the strings quickly then 16:19:49 <planetmaker> not sure whether we do another string update 16:20:15 <Phreeze> i hate the word vehicle 16:20:25 <Phreeze> it has a lame translation in luxembourgish.... 16:20:38 <Phreeze> we call "vehicles" by its name, like "car" or "train" etc.. 16:21:00 <Phreeze> as in ottd theres "road vehicle" i can't just say "bus" or "lorry" 16:21:01 <Phreeze> -_- 16:22:53 <planetmaker> "StraÃenfahrzeug" ;) 16:23:08 <planetmaker> or simply "Fahrzeug" 16:23:56 *** fairc [~richard@g225042169.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:24:01 <Phreeze> we dont use the word Fahrzeug, we would say "auto" or "lkw" or "bus" or "suv" etc ;) 16:24:22 <Phreeze> nvtl, i'm now used to the "generalizing" word 16:24:58 *** fairc [~richard@g225042169.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 16:27:19 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 16:35:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19EE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19EE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:40:55 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-9420.vo.lu] has quit [] 16:43:53 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:4da2:2413:8bac:49b8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:23 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:4da2:2413:8bac:49b8] has joined #openttd 16:52:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19EE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19EE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:00:39 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:12:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f741a9f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:13:51 *** Hazzard [~Hazzard@207.163.167.2] has joined #openttd 17:26:01 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 17:29:48 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A75B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:30:30 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:15 *** Tanguy [~tanguy@2a01:e34:ee8f:150:82ee:73ff:fe43:b876] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:33 *** Tanguy [~tanguy@2a01:e34:ee8f:150:82ee:73ff:fe43:b876] has joined #openttd 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26602 /trunk/src/lang (luxembourgish.txt polish.txt) (2014-05-20 17:45:14 UTC) 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> luxembourgish - 135 changes by Phreeze 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> polish - 7 changes by Kilian 17:48:03 *** Tanguy [~tanguy@2a01:e34:ee8f:150:82ee:73ff:fe43:b876] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:09 <rubenwardy> ew, svn. 17:48:16 *** Tanguy [~tanguy@2a01:e34:ee8f:150:82ee:73ff:fe43:b876] has joined #openttd 17:48:24 <rubenwardy> I prefer Git or Hg 17:48:38 <rubenwardy> * Mercuria 17:48:42 <rubenwardy> * Mercurial 17:48:54 <planetmaker> then use it 17:49:00 <planetmaker> we have svn, hg and git repos 17:49:17 <rubenwardy> Oh, okay 18:10:59 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.48.169] has quit [Quit: www.adiirc.com - Free mIRC alternative - Not Open Source, but it's easy to decompile!] 18:17:31 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 18:24:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:24:05 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:24:53 <Wolf01> hello o/ 18:34:07 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:35:23 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-84-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:04 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-84-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:41:09 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@d44172.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: reboot] 18:43:24 *** montalvo_ [~montalvo@79-78-210-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:43:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:15 <andythenorth> o/ 18:44:29 *** rubenwardy [~rubenward@host86-136-183-97.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: You may notice this notice is not worth noticing] 18:48:08 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-84-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:19 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@d44172.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:51:43 <fkinglag> planetmaker, thank you for replying. I'll have to try that. 18:52:00 <fkinglag> hmm, nvm planetmaker isn't here. 18:52:12 <planetmaker> he is 18:52:22 <fkinglag> d'oh, shoulda scrolled up 18:52:50 <fkinglag> ;) 18:52:50 <planetmaker> but I can't remember anymore the context :P 18:52:59 <Xaroth|Work> lies, planetmaker isn't here 18:52:59 <fkinglag> distance, time tables, etc. 18:53:07 <planetmaker> ah. :) 18:53:18 <fkinglag> measuring distance of train routes was what I originally asked about. 18:53:45 <planetmaker> the rail build tool (or road) has a distance measure for straight lines 18:53:56 <planetmaker> with shift it's just a cost estimate, thus can be used for it 18:54:12 <planetmaker> possibly easier to just compare coordinates of two tiles, though 18:56:30 <fkinglag> yeah, I thought I'd try using the coordinates over straight lines. Should be easier to compare routes 19:00:02 <planetmaker> frosch123, would there be another language backport before 1.4.1? 19:00:14 <frosch123> no 19:00:31 <frosch123> unless you find a bunch of bugs :) 19:00:36 <frosch123> resp. fix them :p 19:00:49 <planetmaker> not this week 19:01:01 <Rubidium> ... and you do that before next sunday 19:04:33 *** montalvo_ [~montalvo@79-78-210-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:06:27 *** montalvo [~montalvo@79-78-210-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:09:42 <planetmaker> V453000, you there? 19:09:50 <V453000> nowai 19:10:05 <planetmaker> got time to test some nml versions for me whether they work? 19:10:42 <V453000> o 19:10:53 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/nml-0.3.1-windows.win32.exe and http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/nml-0.3.1-windows.win32.zip should be same... but not sure :) 19:10:55 <V453000> forget entirely when going yeti mayhem yesterday :D will try now 19:11:09 <planetmaker> no worries. Just remembered, too :) 19:11:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:12:05 <V453000> well the installer finished, seemed to only install python? 19:12:15 <V453000> the exe thingy 19:12:26 <planetmaker> it *should* rather install nml... 19:13:41 <V453000> ah right that is just choosing the python 19:13:54 <V453000> so, what do you need me to check? 19:14:05 <planetmaker> try to build a grf with that nmlc :) 19:14:15 <V453000> :D 19:14:26 <frosch123> pm wants to know whether pythons get along well with yetis and unicorns 19:14:32 <V453000> o 19:14:33 <planetmaker> ye :) 19:14:36 <V453000> yetis dont get along with anybody 19:14:39 <V453000> they smash everything 19:14:51 <planetmaker> make sure there is a python farm :) 19:14:56 <frosch123> aren't they riding unicorns or something? 19:14:58 <planetmaker> for yummi food for the yetis 19:15:15 <planetmaker> wood be a nice joke :P Nerdy, but ncie ;) 19:15:32 <frosch123> and don't they a python as whip? 19:15:52 <V453000> already having Death Steel Mill 19:17:25 <V453000> frosch123: Yetis smash _Everything_ 19:17:31 <V453000> including their own machinery and beer 19:17:37 *** montalvo [~montalvo@79-78-210-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 19:18:07 <V453000> nuts seems to have built successfully with the first one 19:18:22 <V453000> now, how do I install the zip? there are some folders which causes my confooozion 19:18:58 <planetmaker> actually I'm not sure :P 19:19:21 <V453000> OH :D 19:19:24 <planetmaker> but the exe is supposed to be an easy fire-up installer. If that one works, that's good news really. Quite good 19:19:41 <V453000> aha 19:19:57 <V453000> well I guess I just need to find the Libs folder in python and rest goes to nml 19:20:23 <V453000> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6132/3-X_Vray_Hood.png =D 19:20:49 <planetmaker> you might have a dir like c:\pythonXY or so 19:21:04 <planetmaker> rather it wants a c:\python33 where it probably wants to be unpacked to 19:21:12 <planetmaker> so you likely don't have that python version (yet) 19:21:17 <V453000> I has python27 19:21:27 <planetmaker> yup :) 19:21:48 <V453000> sooo I celebrate the circumstace with beer? 19:22:00 <planetmaker> yes, please do 19:22:08 <Xaroth|Work> yay for python 2.7. 19:22:59 <V453000> I should just try to extract it to python27 folder then 19:23:02 <planetmaker> V453000, but you're sure that you actually used the new nmlc and not any other installed one, yes? :) (Just double checking) :) 19:23:11 <planetmaker> V453000, I don't expect it to work with python27 19:23:29 <planetmaker> better don't put it in that dir 19:23:33 <V453000> ok 19:23:33 <V453000> hm 19:23:39 <V453000> it looks like I still have 0.3.0 19:23:41 <V453000> r5100 19:23:46 <V453000> which is the last one I was getting 19:24:01 <V453000> so apparently the installer worked just seemingly 19:24:14 <Xaroth|Work> nmlc doesn't work with python 2.7? 19:24:28 <planetmaker> it probably installed it. But the existing one has priority, V453000 19:24:43 <planetmaker> you might need to call it explicitly with the full path as to where the exe installed itself 19:24:53 <V453000> :0 19:24:54 <Xaroth|Work> cuz I'm pretty sure the nmlc I have installed on my server uses 2.7 :o 19:25:12 <planetmaker> Xaroth, every nml in the wild uses python 2.7 (or 2.6 or 2.5) 19:25:17 <planetmaker> this is a py3 test :) 19:25:19 <Xaroth|Work> ah 19:25:22 <Xaroth|Work> scary shit 19:25:57 <Xaroth|Work> though I have a test server with py3k installed as well iirc, if you need a place to test 19:26:01 <planetmaker> or rather the result of my very shallow learning curve to create something which hopefully is easily usable on windows 19:26:06 <planetmaker> or not. we shall see ;) 19:28:03 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 19:33:06 <V453000> need me to try something further? 19:33:25 <planetmaker> hm, I think currently not. Maybe tomorrow :) Thanks a lot 19:33:31 <V453000> PS getting the biggest BFU around here to do some tests isnt the best idea :D 19:33:36 <V453000> you are welcome however 19:33:41 <planetmaker> or did you try to locate the exe? 19:33:44 <planetmaker> and call it directly? 19:34:00 <planetmaker> I mean where it installed the nmlc.exe to? 19:37:57 <planetmaker> You now have something like C:\python33\nmlc.exe right? 19:38:24 <planetmaker> C:\Python33\Scripts\nmlc.exe 19:38:36 <V453000> I dont have python33 at all 19:38:50 <V453000> idk where it installed anything :| 19:39:12 <V453000> PS managed to get my render time from 0:58 to 6:30 just by replacing one material =D 19:39:18 <V453000> sadly, it looks better so I might keep it 19:39:51 <planetmaker> but what does the installer say when you run it? It tells me it will install to C:\Python33 19:45:13 <V453000> tells me C:\Python27 19:45:47 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 19:46:28 <planetmaker> oho, interesting 19:46:40 <planetmaker> so, there's C:\Python27\scripts\nmlc.exe? 19:47:02 <V453000> yarr 19:47:13 <planetmaker> what does it tell you, if you call it with --version? 19:47:21 <planetmaker> c:\python27\scripts\nmlc.exe --version 19:47:39 <planetmaker> (and from the time stamp, it's new, yes?) 19:47:52 <V453000> time stamp sez 19.5. 19:48:01 <planetmaker> sounds ok 19:50:01 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/wtf_.png 19:50:27 <planetmaker> hm... drat 19:50:35 <planetmaker> k, thanks nevertheless 19:50:53 <planetmaker> more poking at packaging tools ahead then 19:52:56 <andythenorth> planetmaker: dunno if itâs useful, but you can get free windows VMs from microsoft 19:53:05 <andythenorth> http://modern.ie 19:53:27 * andythenorth uses them all the time for IE 7 crap and such 19:54:14 <planetmaker> hm... that's useful 19:54:39 <andythenorth> much easier than relying on reports via irc :) 19:55:08 <V453000> you are welcome :) 19:55:14 <planetmaker> both is useful :) 19:55:44 <planetmaker> I was just setting up a VM... But my CD-Drive seems to be disconnected since I last added HDD to the computer :P 19:55:53 <planetmaker> made it difficult to insert the windows DVD I have ;) 19:58:02 <planetmaker> thanks, andythenorth :) probably saved me quite a bit time 19:58:23 <planetmaker> now downloads for quite some time... but that can be spent more productively then 19:58:40 <andythenorth> yeah, itâs a big download, and if you need IE7-11 itâs a lot of SSD gone :P 19:58:46 <andythenorth> but itâs otherwise very handy 19:59:03 * planetmaker doesn't have SSD ;) 19:59:10 <planetmaker> but big enough normal hdd :D 20:01:37 <Eddi|zuHause> how to delete a harddrive [german]: http://frank.geekheim.de/?p=2423 20:01:54 *** Hazzard [~Hazzard@207.163.167.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:02:05 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A75B.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 20:02:40 <frosch123> does not look like there is a undo knob 20:03:55 <andythenorth> last year SSD got cheap enough to be default imho 20:04:05 <andythenorth> but ymmv etc :) 20:05:09 <Eddi|zuHause> when i bought my SSD, a 128GB SSD cost about as much as a 2TB HDD 20:05:47 <andythenorth> were you a happy shopper? 20:05:47 <frosch123> do you need 2tb? 20:06:14 * andythenorth discovered that what is really needed is *fast* 20:06:19 <andythenorth> and an aggressive attitude to deleting 20:07:07 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: no matter how much HDD you got, it's always full 20:07:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i'm at 5TB total currently 20:07:46 <frosch123> i always buy the 0.5l sunflower oil bottle. it costs the same as the 1l bottle, but looks nicer, and i only need 0.5l until it looks gross 20:08:16 <andythenorth> frosch123: I am now suprised that you are not a mac user :o 20:08:25 <andythenorth> or worse, an ipad user :o 20:08:58 <frosch123> i have around 250 gb of data, which includes various vms and various backups 20:09:38 <frosch123> andythenorth: why? i think about stuff 20:10:05 * andythenorth was trolling with no real validity :P 20:10:27 <frosch123> i was just pointing out that the nominal value is not necessarily the actual value 20:10:51 <Rubidium> reducing waste and such ;) 20:15:42 <Xaroth|Work> only 250gb of data? 20:15:49 *** LSky` [LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Night] 20:15:59 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:06 <Xaroth|Work> I removed around that much worth of game screenshots a while ago :P 20:20:35 <frosch123> Xaroth|Work: my ottd bin and obj dirs are symlinked to a tmpfs 20:20:46 <frosch123> so, they are deleted on every boot 20:20:55 <frosch123> no way to pile them up 20:21:14 <Xaroth|Work> heh, that limits it quite a bit, yeh 20:21:41 <Xaroth|Work> but I'm a bit of a collection nutter.. 2tb+ worth of movies, 1tb+ worth of series :| 20:21:48 * Xaroth|Work contemplating building a new nas 20:22:52 <frosch123> i tried that, but concluded that i never watch movies if i always have the opportunity to watch them 20:23:05 <andythenorth> we store too much 20:23:06 <frosch123> so, i got rid of them :) 20:23:36 <Xaroth|Work> heh, I try to watch them at least once, but most at least twice 20:23:52 <Xaroth|Work> unless I downloaded them for the wife 20:23:58 <Xaroth|Work> in that case only if it's a good movie :| 20:24:35 <frosch123> well, back in tv age i was always happy to watch my favorite movies once a year or something 20:24:54 <frosch123> but once i had them captured, i never watched them again 20:25:27 <Xaroth|Work> I usually have something running on my 2nd screen 20:25:49 <Xaroth|Work> be it an episode, or a movie.. but usually that's just for the background noise factor :P 20:25:53 <frosch123> me too, but that is always twitch or yt, but no movie :p 20:26:05 <andythenorth> I have children for background noise 20:26:16 <Xaroth|Work> twitch is too annoying.. stutters too much and lags the crap out of this old beast :( 20:26:45 <frosch123> nah, it is fine, you just may not apply any logic 20:27:12 <V453000> LOGIC IS EVUL 20:27:15 <V453000> APPLY REALISM 20:27:17 <andythenorth> BAD V453000 20:27:20 <andythenorth> BAD REAL 20:27:21 <V453000> BAD 20:27:27 <frosch123> you just should not assume that selecting a lower quality makes it stutter less 20:27:58 <frosch123> the servers downscaling the quality are more busy than than those streaming the unscaled or something :p 20:28:31 <Xaroth|Work> sometimes yeh 20:29:08 <Eddi|zuHause> apparently i have 90GB in games 20:29:43 <Xaroth|Work> Mine shrunk down to 18.. but it used to be 250+ due to enormous amounts of screenshot 20:29:48 <frosch123> @calc 90*1024 / 283 20:29:48 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 325.653710247 20:29:54 <frosch123> 325 checkouts of ottd? 20:30:00 <planetmaker> lol 20:30:03 <Xaroth|Work> lolz 20:34:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i also have 700GB in uncut (and unwatched) tv recordings 20:35:07 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 20:35:34 <Eddi|zuHause> like 2 seasons of simpsons and how i met your mother... 20:36:01 <frosch123> you should stop making backups for others 20:36:20 <Eddi|zuHause> this doesn't include "distributed backups" 20:39:05 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:35 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 20:39:38 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 20:40:55 <frosch123> it feels weird that ottd's obj directory is 328mb for a debug build, and the binary is 80mb 20:41:49 *** steili [~oftc-webi@c8E6947C1.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:50 <frosch123> i mean there is only 41mb source, with 25mb in lang files 20:42:11 <planetmaker> :) 20:42:21 <Alberth> s/\t/ /g :) 20:42:26 <frosch123> and 83mb for the whole hg history 20:42:31 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: btw. my OpenTTD directory is 6.5GB and contains 31 immediate subdirectories 20:44:29 <Eddi|zuHause> 26 of those contain bin directories, which amount to 0.5GB 20:44:52 <planetmaker> 27G ./grfdev 20:45:01 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: not included 20:45:07 <planetmaker> 57G . 20:45:21 <andythenorth> I have 2.5G of game and 500MB of checkouts for ottd 20:45:40 <planetmaker> but there's some stuff which is not immediately related. Like an 8GB checkout of LLVM ;) 20:45:57 <andythenorth> 3G of newgrf dev :P 20:45:57 <Eddi|zuHause> my grf development stuff is only 800MB 20:46:16 <andythenorth> planetmaker: you win? 20:47:09 <planetmaker> grfdev is also somewhat a stretch. Basically everything not directly openttd, thus nml, grfcodec, grfs, gs, ai,... 20:47:18 <planetmaker> andythenorth, a free cleanup of the disk? :D 20:47:36 <V453000> 8gb game folder in documents :) 20:48:13 <planetmaker> 1,2G ./titlegame 20:48:20 <Eddi|zuHause> my .openttd is 2.5GB 20:49:09 <Eddi|zuHause> 130MB content_download, 200MB screenshot, 250MB data, 800MB grf development and 1.1GB savegames 20:50:56 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:51:12 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 20:51:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 21:03:34 *** MarkyParky [~oftc-webi@151.249.108.79] has joined #openttd 21:06:55 *** MarkyParky [~oftc-webi@151.249.108.79] has quit [] 21:07:05 <steili> Hi guys, I'm trying to compile OpenTTD for the first time. I'm using VS2012 and I'm trying to compile the 32-bit version. I've cloned the git repo, and pulled the latest version right now. I've followed the guide on the wiki (http://wiki.openttd.org/Microsoft_Visual_C%2B%2B_2012), but I'm having a small problem: When building the solution, I get the following error: 21:07:12 <steili> 7>..\src\music\dmusic.cpp(114): error C2664: 'convert_from_fs' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'WCHAR [128]' to 'const TCHAR *' 7> Types pointed to are unrelated; conversion requires reinterpret_cast, C-style cast or function-style cast 21:07:35 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has quit [Quit: I'm using a Free IRC Bouncer from BNC4FREE - http://bnc4free.com/] 21:07:51 <steili> The line in question is this (from dmusic.cpp): DEBUG(driver, 1, " %d: %s%s", i, convert_from_fs(caps.wszDescription, desc, lengthof(desc)), i == port ? " (selected)" : ""); 21:08:21 <steili> Do any of you know how to fix this? 21:08:31 *** lugo [lugo@192.249.56.28] has joined #openttd 21:09:02 <planetmaker> steili, do you have installed openttd-useful? 21:09:05 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 21:09:39 *** Katje [freemadi@tao.quixotic.eu] has joined #openttd 21:09:45 <Katje> hello, I think I've found a bug 21:09:54 <steili> planetmaker: Yes, it is located in the OpenTTD essentials folder 21:10:02 <Katje> I built a railway station, there was a farm nearby, but not within the catchment of the train station 21:10:27 <glx> but TCHAR should have been replaced by preprocessor 21:10:37 <Katje> so I built a lorry station next to the farm as a single part of the original station (ctrl click) 21:10:49 <Katje> I have since demolished the lorry station 21:10:49 <Rubidium> glx: because of that I'd almost reckon that it's building without unicode 21:11:04 <Katje> but live stock and grain still accumilates at the train station, even tho it does not have a farm in catchment 21:11:11 <Katje> any ideas why this might happen ? 21:11:17 <glx> VS is unicode only 21:11:44 <Rubidium> glx: is dmusic then the first file to be compiled? 21:12:14 <planetmaker> Katje, that depends on the station layout and station parts (catchment area) 21:12:18 <glx> it compiles multiple files at the same time (depending on CPU) 21:12:26 <planetmaker> i.e. an airport increases it. For every tile 21:12:26 <Katje> planetmaker: is there a way to work that out ? 21:12:42 <Rubidium> glx: the CF builds as one of the ten last files 21:12:51 <Katje> is there a way to display station catchments? 21:12:53 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 21:12:53 <Rubidium> steili: is this the only error you get? 21:13:29 <Rubidium> steili: and is dmusic one of the last files that is compiled? 21:13:55 <steili> Rubidium: I got a Warning C4005: "'FACILITY_DIRECTMUSIC' : macro redefinition" first, but I fixed that error using the guidelines in the Wiki 21:14:10 * andythenorth needs a pipeline 21:15:03 <steili> Rubidium: Yes, it is one of the last 21:16:57 <steili> Here is the output from VS2012 wheb building: http://pastebin.com/ymcA4wpd 21:18:13 <Rubidium> that doesn't make sense to me; I hope glx can make sense of it 21:18:48 <planetmaker> Katje, there's no direct way to display them 21:18:50 <Katje> is there a way to stop a cargo accumilating at a station that you have decided to stop serving for that cargo type ? 21:18:53 <Katje> planetmaker: ah 21:18:54 <glx> I guess the squirrel warnings comes from 64bit to 32bit conversions 21:19:11 <Katje> planetmaker: so building an airport as part of a station increases the catchment of the station itself? 21:19:23 <planetmaker> with recent nightlies stations will drop a cargo if unserviced for ~ 2 years 21:19:30 <planetmaker> Katje, yes. 21:19:44 <Katje> is there a formula for calculating that increase? 21:19:53 <Katje> and does it depend how close the airport is to the station ? 21:20:14 <planetmaker> maximum catchment area of all station parts. the catchment size is documented in the wiki for each airport and other station types 21:21:05 <steili> glx: Would it help if I try to build the 64-bit? 21:21:23 <glx> I can confirm the sq warnings 21:21:33 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/Catchment_area 21:21:50 <glx> but dmusic is ok for me in 32bits 21:21:50 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/Modified_catchment 21:22:41 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@torland1-this.is.a.tor.exit.server.torland.is] has joined #openttd 21:22:51 <Katje> so the big airport has a catchment of 8 21:23:06 <Katje> and as the station and airport are merged, the station has a catchment of 8 also ? 21:23:07 <planetmaker> ye 21:23:48 <Katje> the farm is 10 tiles from the nearest corner of the station... 21:24:08 <Katje> does demolishing the lorry station reduce the catchment? 21:24:49 <planetmaker> depends on the geometry of the remaining tiles... 21:25:07 <andythenorth> ah station catchments :) 21:25:11 <andythenorth> always fun 21:25:23 <planetmaker> really, discussing station catchment without both, image or savegame is a very academic exercise 21:25:52 <Katje> ok 21:26:04 <Katje> is there an easy screen shot function ? 21:26:18 <steili> glx: Ok. I just realized that I might have one more clue for you. When fixing the 'FACILITY_DIRECTMUSIC' problem, I was asked to edit the 'dmerror.h' file under 'External Dependencies'. However, the 'dmerror.h' file I found there didn't contain the "#define FACILITY_DIRECTMUSIC" line which the Wiki specified. I had to open the file in explorer ('OpenTTD essentials\shared\include\dmerror.h') to find the a file which matched the description in t 21:26:18 <Katje> also is there an absolute maximium catchment possible? 21:26:29 <Katje> cos I could just move the station X tiles along to solve the problem... 21:27:08 <planetmaker> ctrl+s gives screenshot 21:27:34 <planetmaker> station size is a setting. catchment is defined around the station tiles and can't be changed 21:28:00 <Katje> does demolishing a station remove it's catchment ? 21:28:03 <planetmaker> max station spread is 64 tiles each direction. Default max is 12 21:28:10 <planetmaker> the one of that tile: yes 21:28:31 <glx> steili: I use an old directx sdk so was not concerned by this macro redefinition 21:29:26 <Katje> erm, where did it put that screen shot ? 21:29:50 <planetmaker> ~/.openttd/screenshot 21:29:53 <Katje> apparently max station size is 25 21:30:09 <planetmaker> C:\Users\blubber\Documents\OpenTTD\screenshots 21:30:20 <planetmaker> whereever, depends on OS and OS version. check readme chapter 4 21:30:32 <planetmaker> ~/Documents/OpenTTD/screenshots 21:30:38 <Katje> http://quixotic.eu/misc/openttdscreenshot.png 21:30:47 <Katje> am runing debian, if that makes any difference 21:31:09 <Katje> so, we have the railway station and airport top of the picture, this is Slinning head 21:31:18 <Katje> which also has a bus station somewhere in the middle of the city 21:31:23 <Katje> bottom of the shot is a farm 21:31:34 <Katje> that farm appears to be putting cargo into slunninghead 21:31:40 <Katje> it shouldn't be 21:31:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:31:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:31:56 <Katje> the lorry stations around the farm are part of slunninghead mines, and serve a different station 21:32:17 <planetmaker> maybe vehicles do. Via transfer 21:32:46 <Katje> not transfer 21:35:05 <planetmaker> with the screenshot I can't check each *individual* road station tile or the history of the cargo 21:35:13 <Katje> ok 21:35:23 <Katje> save game, on it's way 21:36:32 <glx> ok I found it steili 21:36:38 <Katje> planetmaker: you have pm 21:36:42 <glx> check project properties 21:37:01 <steili> glx: Ok 21:37:52 <glx> on general page character set is not unicode 21:39:00 <glx> but that's weird as we specify it in the project file 21:40:48 <steili> glx: On my config properties -> Project Defaults, Character Set is set to 'Use Unicode Character Set' 21:43:15 <glx> but I get the same errors when I disable unicode 21:43:26 <glx> and no errors with unicode 21:44:29 <glx> seems unicode detection in squirrel is fucked up ;) 21:44:57 <glx> hmm no it works 21:45:08 <glx> but we removed snprintf 21:47:26 <steili> glx: That's strange. 21:47:54 <glx> yes it should build out of the box on msvc 21:47:58 <LordAro> now, i think this looks kinda good: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c8f6qvcmwrwvffj/out.ogv 21:48:17 <glx> there's something on your side that disable unicode 21:50:22 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53:09 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:53:32 <steili> glx: Just throwing out some thoughts here: I'm using Windows SDK for Windows 8.1. Could that have anything to do with it? 21:54:01 <glx> dunno, maybe 21:54:52 <planetmaker> Katje, the catchment of the international airport is 10 21:55:03 <planetmaker> so the farm is in the catchment area 21:55:27 <planetmaker> feel free to correct the wiki. I go to bed. g'night everyone 21:55:29 <frosch123> night 21:55:33 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f741a9f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:55:42 <Katje> planetmaker: thank you muchly! 21:55:46 <Katje> sleep well 21:56:04 <Wolf01> 'night all too 21:56:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:56:33 <glx> steili: shouldn't be the cause 21:57:48 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:58:10 <Katje> cheers all 21:58:10 *** Katje [freemadi@tao.quixotic.eu] has left #openttd [] 21:59:40 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 22:16:51 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:18:46 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@4VXAABCQH.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 22:34:44 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 22:36:48 <NGC982> Evening 22:38:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19EE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:17 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:50:53 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:34:08 <steili> glx: Update: I managed to build 1.4 x64. trunk x64 doesn't display the Unicode error, but complains about snprintf is undefined - which you noticed. The only problem is trunk with 32-bit, which still has the initial problem. 23:35:32 <glx> snprintf undefined is a unicode error as it should use _snwprintf instead 23:36:56 <glx> and dmusic is disabled in x64 23:38:03 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:40:40 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@79.169.2.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:50 *** _Hazzard [~Hazzard@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:52:36 <steili> Thanks for the help glx :) Guess 1.4 would have to do for now.