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00:21:51 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:44:43 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:48:58 *** Smedles [~quassel@101.166.76.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:05 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:15:15 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 02:21:57 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:23:45 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:26:10 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:26:43 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 02:58:14 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 03:14:26 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 04:20:18 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:20:36 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67ED2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67540.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:23:47 *** steili [~oftc-webi@c8E6947C1.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 05:29:49 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 05:41:58 *** Hazzard__ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:47:38 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.98.146.88] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC, my current client, yours next one! - www.adiirc.com] 05:53:11 <V453000> planetmaker: after rethinking, I think https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/YETI/3-AA-x4.png is correct, the iron ore cubes are heatening and melting by the superior volume from the reproductors, hence edges are hotter than inside 05:59:44 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 05:59:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 06:05:12 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-20-157.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:05:58 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-110-189.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 06:08:17 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:33:19 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 06:39:37 <planetmaker> V453000, even when you heat(ed) it, the temperature inversion with hotter edges will only last very briefly. Metal is an excellent heat conductor 06:40:04 <planetmaker> and heat is lost at surface - edges have more surface per volume than the middle of the cube faces 06:42:03 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.245] has quit [] 06:43:14 <V453000> but it is still being heated? 06:45:13 <planetmaker> where is it being heated? 06:45:47 <planetmaker> in front of the 'powa' boxes? 06:46:19 <planetmaker> Then the hottest piece should be the one in front of the left one. And the one near the entrance with the metal cylinder on top should already be slightly cooler again 06:46:29 <planetmaker> but it looks hottest 06:46:54 <planetmaker> that's why I thought they come out heated from that building 06:53:00 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:10:32 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:24:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:31:18 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 07:33:24 <V453000> oh :) 07:33:49 <V453000> well yeah, cooler again is a thing, but I only got 2 materials to blend atm :P 07:34:00 <V453000> possibly can make 3rd though 07:34:21 <V453000> the "heat" is not exactly heat, the iron ore melts from the music played from the powa boxes. 07:34:57 <V453000> so yeah, I will make a 3rd material for it to cool down before the "entrance with metal cylinder" (is water) 07:35:07 <V453000> is water but so far super primtive an unobvious :P 07:53:08 <V453000> ... when it travels in the animation it gets quite a bit more obvious, too 07:54:06 <planetmaker> yes, I very much assume so :) 08:02:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.165.143] has joined #openttd 08:02:55 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6200/3-AA_1.wmv 08:03:15 <V453000> many things will look different, but for now ... 08:11:05 <planetmaker> the timing when the spheres come out of the building does not fit the speed of the cubes entering it imho 08:14:23 <V453000> yeah, that part will completely change :) 08:15:01 <V453000> the displacement on the molten material apparently does not quite fit the animation either (end != start) 08:15:48 <planetmaker> and somethingh as to be done about the pile-up of the spheres :) 08:16:05 <planetmaker> s/h as/ has/ 08:16:37 <planetmaker> when done, they have a sudden massive existence failure 08:17:03 <V453000> they wont even be there, or with some fence :) 08:17:05 <V453000> or elsewhere 08:17:24 <V453000> the one that comes out will go in a slide-like ride-thing path to some destination where it disappears 08:18:08 <V453000> so far I have mainly been fiddling with making the material transition 08:18:11 <V453000> which was the hardest part 08:21:07 <planetmaker> yeah, I easily believe so :) 08:54:36 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has joined #openttd 08:59:14 *** Aristide [~quassel@78.250.23.197] has joined #openttd 09:04:20 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:06:40 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 09:33:30 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37:00 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:50:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.176.246] has joined #openttd 09:57:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.165.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:00:45 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:06:47 *** Aristide [~quassel@78.250.23.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:18:18 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:52:53 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:55:32 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:03:49 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 11:03:50 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:18 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 11:31:58 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:a517:5fb8:4451:8f87] has joined #openttd 11:48:11 *** steili [~oftc-webi@c8E6947C1.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08:28 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:42:06 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 12:49:16 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:56:57 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A0BF78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:24:30 *** ryba [~ryba@212.24.145.221] has joined #openttd 13:24:30 *** ryba is now known as retro 13:24:34 <retro> hello 13:24:55 <planetmaker> hi 13:24:58 <retro> I'm trying to compile 1.4.1 stable on linux, but my distribution provides only xz 4.x 13:25:02 <retro> So I compiled xz 5.0.5 13:25:12 <retro> But I don't know what specify to --with-liblzma 13:25:15 <planetmaker> you need xz-devel 13:25:29 <retro> I compiled xz from source code by self. 13:25:31 <planetmaker> or lzma-devel. However it's called on your distro 13:25:43 <retro> As I said, my distro has xz 4.x only 13:25:45 <retro> 4.7 I think 13:25:49 <planetmaker> yes, but that doesn't mean you have the headers installed i nthe right place, retro 13:26:03 <retro> that's why I'm specifying --with-liblzma to configure 13:26:16 <planetmaker> the xz package is not the xz-devel package 13:26:21 <planetmaker> even when you compiled xz from source 13:26:47 <planetmaker> anyway, what distro is that? 13:26:57 <V453000> yeti 13:27:20 <retro> it is old Fedora 13:27:25 <retro> I downloaded whole xz sources. 13:27:42 <retro> And I compiled custom liblzma from them. 13:29:08 <retro> So I'm wondering what path --with-liblzma I need. 13:29:19 <retro> Point it to liblzma.so? 13:29:22 <retro> or to headers? 13:32:07 <retro> planetmaker, I downloaded xz from http://tukaani.org/xz/ 13:34:54 <retro> ahh 13:35:02 <retro> I understand --with-liblzma isn't path finder 13:35:48 <retro> So is there any way how to specify custom path to liblzma to configure? 13:36:08 <planetmaker> --with-liblzma=/path/to/... 13:36:27 <retro> But path to wath? 13:36:37 <retro> what file should be in that path? 13:36:44 <retro> liblzma.so or headers? 13:41:53 <retro> :( 13:41:55 <retro> I tried both 13:43:34 <retro> Wondering whats 'checking liblzma... not found' looking for. 13:45:27 <planetmaker> openttd checks by means of pkg-config --modversion liblzma for the version of the installed lib 13:49:34 <retro> Yes, I found that in config.lib. 13:49:37 <retro> right now 13:49:52 <retro> so I need to instal liblzma to system? 13:51:47 <planetmaker> probably yes 13:53:30 <planetmaker> btw... http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=50817 13:58:08 <retro> OK, I solve it. 13:58:29 <retro> solved it 13:59:07 <retro> I installed xz systemwide, since my version was 4.999beta and I went thru xz change log and nothing big happened breaking public API. 13:59:30 <retro> And I copied liblzma.pc to /usr/lib64/pkgconfig to let pkg-config now about my new version. 13:59:38 <retro> planetmaker, thanks for your help 14:04:02 <planetmaker> welcome 14:12:41 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:15:01 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:18:54 <MTsPony> Q guys. Does the amount of opcodes make a different for Game wcripts like City builder etc? 14:19:02 <MTsPony> scripts 14:52:42 <__ln__> V453000: do czech places accept credit cards? (shops, fast food restaurants, etc?) 14:53:09 <V453000> depends, the tiny ones might not, but larger ones always do 14:53:59 <retro> __ln__, in Prague yes 14:54:25 <__ln__> what about Pilsen? 14:54:43 <planetmaker> just drink enough, then you don't care :P 14:54:55 <retro> __ln__, They have good beer. That's all I know about Pilsen. But I've been there twice and I paid with credit card. 14:55:27 <__ln__> ok, good. then i won't need to exchange a huge amount of cash. 14:58:00 <planetmaker> oh... they still have a strange currency, indeed :P 14:59:08 <__ln__> yeah :/ 15:00:07 <planetmaker> I'm abroad fairly regularily. But I keep forgetting that there's sometimes other currencies :) 15:00:58 *** MTsPony [~marctraid@076-010-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [] 15:01:21 *** MTsPony [~marctraid@076-010-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 15:04:28 <__ln__> my friends usually stare at me for a while when i say i exchanged some danish crowns for the upcoming trip; then they realize they should too, because it's denmark. 15:04:57 <planetmaker> yeah :) 15:07:16 <planetmaker> good actually that you remind me :P 15:08:13 <planetmaker> __ln__, though usually that's not needed. You just find the next ATM and get your cash there 15:08:59 <planetmaker> if you go there by plane or train, that should be easy to accomplish 15:10:08 <__ln__> that's true, but i feel a bit awkward if i don't have a single penny of local currency with me when arriving. 15:11:16 <__ln__> and some ATMs may have a minimum withdrawal of 50⬠or so for foreigners, which may be impractical for very short visits. 15:12:16 <planetmaker> easy to spend that on a night out, eating and drinking ;) 15:12:37 <planetmaker> maybe not in Pilsen. Beer is cheap :P 15:12:55 <__ln__> sure, but i mean short stays like just driving through a country in one day, stopping once for eating and once for coffee/tea. 15:13:13 <planetmaker> oh. Well, then I don't bother with local currency indeed 15:30:59 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has joined #openttd 15:38:41 <LordAro> clearly nml should be rewritten in C(++) 15:46:31 *** Superuser [~superuser@2a02:e00:fffe:fbee::b5a2:2197] has left #openttd [WeeChat 1.0-dev] 15:50:14 <retro> __ln__, you can also use ATM to get some cash from creditcard 15:50:19 <retro> but it is now for free 15:50:24 <retro> depends on your banks 15:53:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:59:22 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:59:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1993F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:03:55 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:a517:5fb8:4451:8f87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17:09 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 16:24:01 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01f64b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:18 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 16:46:21 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:49:53 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 16:54:58 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:02:35 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:19:47 *** SkeedR [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:20:18 *** SkeedR is now known as Guest12571 17:36:02 *** retro [~ryba@212.24.145.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:15:41 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@luxemburg.gtor.org] has joined #openttd 18:35:32 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:22 <Wolf01> hi o/ 18:37:47 <Alberth> hi hi 18:38:41 <frosch123> hai 18:42:30 <Eddi|zuHause> ho 18:43:32 <planetmaker> ha 18:44:28 <Eddi|zuHause> they should totally make an ERB between steve urkel and sheldon cooper 18:46:30 <planetmaker> ERB? 18:47:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:35 <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.youtube.com/user/ERB 19:13:31 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-0-12-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 19:32:36 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:34:34 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.98.146.88] has joined #openttd 19:43:57 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:39 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 19:46:25 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 19:47:14 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:53:20 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A0BF78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: What? Oh... cu!] 19:53:58 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3975.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:08:06 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:47:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 21:00:16 <Wolf01> 'night 21:00:20 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:06:00 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-0-12-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:21:53 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3975.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:23:36 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 21:27:50 *** Guest12571 [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29:56 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1993F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:39:40 <frosch123> night 21:39:43 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01f64b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:40:16 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-85-93.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 21:40:21 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-85-93.bredband.comhem.se] has left #openttd [] 21:45:59 *** LSky` [lskynl@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 21:48:46 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:a517:5fb8:4451:8f87] has joined #openttd 21:52:22 <planetmaker> g'night 22:16:35 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, (newgrf) gui sprites, should there be an extra_callback_info1 value for "this sprite is drawn as a cursor"? 22:18:33 *** APTX [~APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:43 *** APTX [~APTX@87-207-72-117.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 22:20:55 *** steili [~oftc-webi@c8E6947C1.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 22:22:57 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 22:23:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i only know that "u" is "undo" in vi because it's so close to "i" and i mis-press it all the time 22:26:47 <steili> Hi guys! Which variable does {VEHICLE} expect? I've tried to supply v->unitnumber, but the strings that are produces varies from wrong train numbers (rare), "Train 0" or "<invalid something>" (my widget overflow so I can't read it). 22:28:40 <Eddi|zuHause> steili: searched other strings that use vehicles and looked where their parameters are pushed? 22:29:08 <Eddi|zuHause> but most likely it will have something "id" in its name 22:30:48 <steili> Eddi: I've tried, and found some strings that indeed uses {VEHICLE}, but I'm quite new to all this, and I couldn't figure out where the values were supplied - I couldn't find any SetDParam()'s at least 22:33:05 <steili> Well, I might have found it - it seems to be v->index :) 22:33:29 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds more plausible than "unitnumber" at least :) 22:33:53 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@6FMAABDZN.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 22:34:19 <steili> Yes, it makes perfectly sense :) Unitnumbers aren't unique between different vehicles after all 22:34:28 <steili> *vehicle types 22:36:14 <perk11> the only useful vi command is :q 22:36:19 <perk11> or killall vi 22:53:27 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 22:54:27 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 22:55:15 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [] 22:59:33 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 23:17:17 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-74-111-111-176.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:17:43 *** mist [~mist@c-74fa70d5.034-4-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 23:18:41 <mist> Hey guys, am new to openttd. I was wondering why my food processing plants/ farms disappear sometimes? 23:19:28 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-74-111-111-176.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 23:23:01 *** namad8 [~aaaaa@pool-74-111-111-176.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:23:45 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:25:52 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Goodbye, Internets!] 23:26:43 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:35:27 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:36:27 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.176.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:51:40 <Rubidium> mist: that's "economy"; sometimes industries just go bankrupt 23:51:56 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:52:01 <Rubidium> if you service them well, the chance of them going bankrupt is a lot smaller though 23:54:33 <Rubidium> but you can't ensure an industry doesn't go bankrupt, and if you fund one you don't own it (so it can still bankrupt)