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00:02:22 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:16:29 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:33 *** Jerik [~Jerik@c-68-80-55-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:55:01 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl6-133-90.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 00:56:08 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl6-133-90.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 01:03:14 *** retro [~ryba@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:00 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:27:57 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.186] has quit [] 01:54:31 <Eddi|zuHause> UukGoblin: do you have any idea how often a t-shirt travelled around the world when you buy it in the shop? 02:21:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.181.26] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:01:42 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.22.29.88.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:09:04 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:13:13 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:13:27 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:37:44 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 04:05:57 *** Diablo-D3 [~diablo@d-ptld-bng1-71-161-111-22.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:09:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.181.26] has joined #openttd 04:11:27 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:11:31 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 04:11:34 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 04:18:16 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 04:18:31 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.227] has joined #openttd 04:19:57 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:29:25 *** kais58_ is now known as kais58|AFK 04:34:55 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:35:20 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4B52.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC675FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:11:18 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 05:29:32 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:32:37 <V453000> wtf original train acceleration model is still default? 05:32:42 <V453000> I thought we dont live in stone age anymore 05:34:17 <V453000> I like the new settings organization though 05:50:54 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51:41 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 05:57:20 <Flygon> Oh man 05:57:22 <Flygon> I dun guud 05:57:33 <Flygon> I gotta quadriplate a busy mainline with lots of junctions 05:57:34 <Flygon> Go me :B 06:12:17 <V453000> nice 06:12:30 <Flygon> Sooo yeah 06:12:32 <Flygon> Moral of the story 06:12:38 <Flygon> lern2futureproof 06:12:53 <V453000> more like learn2expand 06:13:33 <V453000> any network can break under x amount of trains, which can come sooner or later ... and building Huuuuge at the start is just boring, expensive, ugly, and not nearly as good for learning 06:16:02 <Flygon> True 06:16:16 <Flygon> And those networks that're 'prebuilt' end up not working well for the task anwyay 06:24:47 <V453000> usually. 06:25:37 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58_ 06:30:21 <V453000> my main point is that when something breaks, the player can see the mistake and learn from it. You cannot build anything big from scratch without that 06:31:54 <Flygon> I've been building for over 24 months dangit :P 06:33:04 <V453000> not enuf :) 06:38:46 <Flygon> Whelp 06:38:51 <Flygon> That's as good as it's gonna get... 06:38:57 <Flygon> The quadriplating wasn't the problem 06:39:14 <Flygon> Building a 100% new junction to handle 6-8 seperate lines going through it was 06:49:06 <V453000> I would like to see that 06:53:42 *** talebowl [~delltvgat@ip-81-11-234-125.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 06:55:30 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:04:05 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:09:27 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:15:08 <Flygon> V453000: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/ottdquadriplationwip.png I stretched the definition of lines, of course 07:15:15 <Flygon> And not all of them are 100% active (eg. frequent pax.) yet 07:16:51 <V453000> oh you call quadruple 2+2 :D 07:17:01 <V453000> btw that isnt very frequent indeed, lets see later 07:18:52 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:20:53 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.55.227] has joined #openttd 07:21:26 <Xaroth|Work> Flygon: that line between Topeka Westfarm and Salina mines looks a bit off 07:23:42 <Flygon> V453000: Yeah. Pax normally ramps up the frequency 07:23:58 <peter1139> oh fuck 07:24:06 <peter1139> dog keeps farting :( 07:24:08 <Flygon> Xaroth: Probably because it's unfinished 07:24:11 <Flygon> Hence the WIP 07:24:19 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:24:36 <Flygon> I'm going to have to completely remove the mine stations, and probably convert them to a RoRo design to faciliate cooperating with quadding 07:25:19 <peter1139> Quadriplating? Is that like goldplating? 07:25:29 <Flygon> Yes 07:26:17 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:28:26 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:32:23 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 08:27:09 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 08:32:13 <talebowl> I've been looking on the wiki and the forums for conventions for measuring patch performance, and found mostly snippets, so I was hoping some of you might be able to fill in some blanks. What I know so far is that I can use the TIC and TOC macro's for built-in performance measuring. Furthermore, I should use openttdcoop savegames for somewhat realistic results (I also read something about configuring with --disable-ai?). I guess that 08:32:13 <talebowl> what I'm looking for is how I should do the actual test (which, of course, depends on the test subject. Performancetesting a patched backend algorithm would be quite different from testing a gui-related patch, I'd assume). In this case, I have a patch that acts on the main viewport (to be more detailed: it highlights the biggest possible combined surface when funding a new industry, taking into account the different layouts possible 08:32:13 <talebowl> ). What I'm looking for is: how do I invoke the necessary interface actions programmatorically, or do I have to do that manually (which wouldn't really be ideal, having to do that, say, 2*50 times, aside from being less reliable)? 08:33:32 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:47:29 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 08:48:59 <peter1139> Does that need benchmarking? 08:54:03 <talebowl> The way it currently is, probably not, but I'm considering trying to do some of the checks that happen after the location has been chosen (location, proximity to others etc) before selecting a location, which, I think, would certainly need benchmarking. Also, I thought it would be useful to measure it anyway, in the current state, to have some idea of the effects (there doesn't seem to be too much of an impact, as far as I can tell w 08:54:03 <talebowl> ithout measuring) 09:02:10 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 09:08:32 <toobored`> Flygon: how did you do it to make your network look so nice/organized? 09:08:55 <Flygon> 22 years of OCD 09:09:39 <toobored`> hehehehe 09:10:05 <Flygon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/openttdtracklayoutmassive.png My older stuff looked stupid 09:10:19 <toobored`> i just started playing again after many years and i'm still struggling with signals/pre-signals and multi-in/multi-out stations 09:10:50 <Flygon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/newfinnrail1992networkmap.png I'm sad I never completed this 09:10:54 <peter1139> Don't bother with presignals. 09:10:55 <toobored`> let me show you mine... although I did plan for capacity.... I made the mistake of having the wrong orientation 09:11:52 <Flygon> I only use block signals, one way signals, and the one way signals you can pass behind 09:11:56 <Flygon> All others are not too useful 09:12:27 <peter1139> Rubbish, only path signals are needed. 09:12:38 <toobored`> peter1139: that's what i'm understanding now 09:12:39 <peter1139> Presignals if you want to do silly stuff with 'priorities' 09:13:02 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-74-111-111-176.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 09:13:27 <peter1139> V453000 obviously isn't here :D 09:13:36 <V453000> teach people horseshit I dont care 09:14:20 <V453000> using block signals helped every single person I met so far, but stay ignorant 09:14:23 <toobored`> Flygon: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mgzprx6bwpkp7go/Screenshot%20from%202014-06-13%2012%3A12%3A05.png 09:14:53 <toobored`> V453000: imho the GUI/docs are broken about pre-signals 09:15:17 <V453000> in what way? 09:15:22 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 09:15:28 <toobored`> wiki says that I have to press Ctrl-Click 09:15:46 <toobored`> however doing that ,at least in 1.4.1, gives me an old-style signal 09:15:46 <peter1139> Holy-90°-bend 09:16:02 <V453000> yes, you have to press ctrl key and click after the signal is built 09:16:05 <V453000> build it first 09:16:09 <V453000> then cycle through signals by ctrl clicking 09:16:10 <Flygon> toobored`: You go for more function than me 09:16:14 <Flygon> Also 09:16:16 <Flygon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/bridgemaster2.png 09:16:18 <Flygon> I was bored 09:16:22 <toobored`> I know, I plan to remove them at some point 09:16:54 <toobored`> (the 90 deg. bends) 09:17:44 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Psg193_BRIDGES.png bridgez? 09:17:55 <toobored`> V453000: about that. I do not remember the color/shape of the signals by heart. so ctrl-clicking and cycling through them is hard 09:18:49 <V453000> yet. :) 09:19:03 <toobored`> i don't want to man :P have already enough in my head 09:19:25 <toobored`> i jsut want a gui, exit pre-signal click it click at the grid, ready 09:19:34 <V453000> there is a gui? 09:20:03 <toobored`> there is a gui for the simple signal. for a pre-signal I have to build and then ctrl-click and cycle 09:20:13 <V453000> what :0 09:20:22 <V453000> there isnt gui for presignals? always was 09:20:40 <V453000> will check after lunch, cya for now 09:20:40 <peter1139> There is a GUI. 09:20:46 <Flygon> V453000: Needs more psudo-bridgeunderbridge 09:21:16 <toobored`> peter1139: then I haven't understood anything.. 09:21:16 <peter1139> In advanced settings, filter on signal. Interface -> Construction -> Enable the signal GUI 09:21:26 <peter1139> Or Ctrl-click on the signal button in the toolbar. 09:21:46 <toobored`> ok. i have that. 09:21:54 <peter1139> By default most people don't need it because everyone can just use path signals. 09:22:24 <V453000> people who cany play very well typically do that, yes. 09:22:31 <V453000> cany/cant 09:23:01 <toobored`> ok I have that. the problem is what V453000 said. that I have to build first and then to make it a pre-, ctrl-click it again 09:23:13 <toobored`> or that's what I understood 09:23:15 <toobored`> baffled. 09:23:44 <peter1139> If you have the signal GUI open, you can just select the presignal you want. 09:24:34 <toobored`> ok. 09:24:42 <peter1139> http://wiki.openttd.org/Signal_GUI 09:25:47 <toobored`> a thanks that clears things up 09:26:38 <toobored`> btw cargo dist is extremely funny 09:27:21 <toobored`> I was thinking the other day, if one can control the 'weight' of a specific 'graph' 09:28:09 <toobored`> for example if you connect two independent networks with an airport, I would assign a weight to it in order not to flood the new pipe 09:30:37 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:33:32 <Flygon> toobored`: I'll get a full screenie of the completed quadriplation soon 09:33:39 <Flygon> So you can see how disorganized it really is 09:33:53 <Flygon> Had to grade seperate a few junctions 09:33:56 <Flygon> And it looks uuuuuugly 09:34:14 <peter1139> quadrification 09:34:57 <Flygon> iunno 09:35:01 <Flygon> Where I am, we say plate 09:35:28 <peter1139> Quadruplication, maybe. 09:35:42 <Flygon> Ah, yes 09:35:44 <Flygon> That's what I meant 09:36:40 <peter1139> I'd probably go with quad-track tbh :) 09:46:29 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 09:49:41 <Flygon> toobored`: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/ottdquadcomplete.png Full quadding. It's messy. Big file alert. 09:52:12 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6DFE2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:52:48 <peter1139> Hmm, need to implement ship collisions... 09:52:54 <Flygon> Good idea 09:53:01 <Flygon> A lot of these ships are from pre-rail era 09:53:02 <toobored`> Flygon: no probs with big files anymore. they just upgraded me to 50/10 vdsl 09:53:03 <toobored`> :D 09:53:06 <Flygon> The game started in 1705 09:53:26 <toobored`> jesus. 09:53:30 <Flygon> toobored`: I'm only on 24/1 (17-19/0.9 realistically) ADSL =/ 09:54:27 <Flygon> ADSL2+ specifically 09:54:32 <Flygon> I can't bloody wait for Fibre 09:54:36 <Flygon> 100/40 POOOOOWAAAAAG 09:55:19 <Flygon> 250/100 if I can afford it 09:55:20 <Flygon> :3 09:55:24 <Flygon> But chances are 09:55:29 <Flygon> My new house will be on a RIM =/ 09:56:06 <toobored`> Flygon: adsl2+ is what I had as well. 50/10 now syncs to 45/10. 09:56:09 <toobored`> what's RIM? 09:56:10 <Flygon> peter1139: I gotta remove all those boats some point 09:56:23 <Flygon> They require really big bridges to not look stupid, but clip anyway 09:56:33 <Flygon> And this's not getting into the river width thing you mentioned 09:56:44 <Flygon> toobored`: UUuh.... minature telephone exchange 09:56:46 <peter1139> Mine was 18/1, but it dropped to 12/1 :( 09:57:08 <Flygon> http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rim_remote_integrated_multiplexer 09:57:15 <toobored`> damn peter1139 09:57:30 <toobored`> although i'm pretty sure with popcorn time can stream 1080p 09:57:55 <peter1139> Streaming video never interested me. 09:58:16 <Flygon> RIM is a genericifieed term here 09:58:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.181.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:59:07 <toobored`> Flygon: so no ADSL over a pair implemented with RIM 09:59:20 <Flygon> RIMs have less phone ports than ADSL ports 09:59:33 <Flygon> And it's Telstra ADSL, regardless of the ISP you use 09:59:36 <Flygon> So you can't get Annex M 09:59:43 <Flygon> I REQUIRE faster uploads 09:59:45 <Flygon> But, nope 09:59:52 <Flygon> Telstra hate you 10:00:22 <toobored`> on the last file you uploaded, what's the point of starting a game from 1700? 10:01:10 <peter1139> Because you can :) 10:01:16 <Flygon> I wanted to see how I'd handle having awful boats and road vehicles 10:01:18 <Flygon> As it turns out 10:01:28 <Flygon> I totally abused the hell out of OTTD's water mechanics 10:01:53 <peter1139> You probably want less time-penalties in those early years. 10:02:27 <toobored`> peter1139: i think that even on a large map, your towns will grow VERY large. 10:02:37 <Flygon> I used default penalties 10:02:46 <Flygon> toobored`: That's why I turned off towns building roads 10:02:48 <Flygon> To prevent that 10:03:06 <Flygon> I know it's very... hackish 10:03:10 <Flygon> But it's the best solution I got 10:04:25 <Eddi|zuHause> talebowl: the easiest (and least accurate) method of performance check is "make run-prof" 10:07:12 <talebowl> I'll take a look, thanks :) 10:08:50 <Flygon> toobored`: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/ottddenvercomplex.png Pretty, or nightmare? :D 10:09:55 <peter1139> Heh, you still have old vehicle warnings enabled... 10:10:24 <toobored`> Flygon: it's pretty. although I'd like a screenshot of multiple trains entering/leaving the station :P 10:10:42 <Flygon> toobored`: Still haven't ramped up running vehicles, sorry x3 10:10:48 <Flygon> I had a suburban system running in Denver 10:10:49 <Xaroth|Work> RAMP IT UP 10:10:52 <Flygon> But it was too unprofitable 10:11:09 <Flygon> I needed to triple head to get the desired acceleration 10:11:43 <toobored`> oooh. it's still the 1880s 10:12:49 <Eddi|zuHause> talebowl: might neeed "./configure --enable-debug=! --enable-profiling" 10:13:16 <Eddi|zuHause> "=1" 10:13:34 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:13:34 <Flygon> Also, excuse the weird terminus o the 'Denver Pax' platforms 10:13:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:13:49 <Flygon> It's a temporary terminus. As you can tell by the line sticking out the rear 10:13:55 <toobored`> does "Road layout for new towns" affect only *new* towns in the save game? 10:14:59 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:16:54 <Eddi|zuHause> toobored`: correct 10:17:44 <Flygon> I love how the Consolidation locos look when at speed, but not struggling to take off 10:17:51 <Flygon> The smoke looks quite... hard worky 10:18:50 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-9-57.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:19 <Flygon> Just a shame they still struggle to haul freight at fast enough acceleration to be hugely useful at RoRo stations x.x 10:25:33 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:29:22 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 10:32:26 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:39:29 *** strohalm [~smoofi@cpe-10feedc22125.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has joined #openttd 11:00:09 *** 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you completely kill the link the cargo will be rerouted 20:58:49 <Diablo_D3> whats cargodist? 20:58:59 <fonsinchen> If there is no new destination for the cargo it will go "via any station". 20:59:28 <fonsinchen> http://wiki.openttd.org/Cargodist 20:59:57 <fonsinchen> But the distant airport should get only a small part of the cargo, except if you set the distance effect very low. 21:00:04 <Diablo_D3> huh thats an interesting thing 21:00:14 <Diablo_D3> no server runs with it? 21:00:18 <toobored`> fonsinchen: thanks. the wiki page didn't clarify what you said. 21:00:19 *** Diablo_D3 is now known as Diablo-D3 21:00:35 <fonsinchen> The wiki page is for Diablo-D3 21:01:44 * Diablo-D3 sighs and launches openttd 21:02:12 <Diablo-D3> maybe someday the opengl blitter patch will be put into trunk 21:02:34 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:28 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 21:11:21 *** oskari89 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