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07:57:49 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:58:45 <planetmaker> I would not assume it's so much a server issue due to the fact that the slowness appeared rather suddenly 07:59:20 <planetmaker> but I guess no-one knows what causes it right now :) 08:03:38 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:22:51 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:25:50 <peter1138> andythenorth, you're funding it? 08:26:01 <andythenorth> I gave him 50p or something 08:26:05 <andythenorth> I could give more 08:26:09 <andythenorth> slow is boring 08:26:20 <andythenorth> hmm, itâs gone fast again 08:26:29 <andythenorth> maybe mysql got in a tiz 08:26:35 <V453000> :D 08:26:48 <andythenorth> should I add a parameter to Iron Horse? 08:27:00 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 08:27:03 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:27:04 <peter1138> No 08:27:17 <Alberth> moin 08:27:21 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:27:31 <V453000> mooin 08:28:37 <planetmaker> moin 08:28:50 <andythenorth> I was thinking of doing a daylength patch in newgrf 08:31:39 <V453000> changed intro dates andythenorth ? 08:31:42 <V453000> I thought about that too 08:32:57 <andythenorth> yeah, just scaling 1-32x or something 08:33:02 <andythenorth> on a prameter 08:33:14 <andythenorth> so bored of seeing daylength patches 08:33:46 <V453000> aye 08:34:00 <V453000> I just didnt know how to implement it to the parameter 08:34:27 <V453000> 1-10x is more than enough :P 08:34:52 <V453000> even x2 is huge 08:35:09 <V453000> in case of nuts that would already be 200 to 400 years of new engines 08:35:13 <Alberth> I had an idea to make a newgrf for each type of train, eg a steam-newgrf from 1950 to 2050 or so, and a diesel newgrf, an electric newgrf, etc etc. With parameter when the first train of that type should be available, and when the last one should become unavailable 08:35:33 <V453000> hm :) 08:35:33 <Alberth> so you can configure your own eras in any way you desire 08:36:38 <Alberth> steam newgrf is probably most needed :) 08:37:11 <V453000> I am not sure letting people configure too much is a great idea :P 08:37:39 <V453000> usually means more tedious map creation, too 08:37:47 <Alberth> yeah, it assumes they know where the "set parameter" button is :p 08:38:13 <V453000> not just that, it also assumes they are not idiots and are able to set it up to make it work well 08:38:21 <V453000> idiot-proof is good 08:38:29 <Alberth> :D 08:38:53 <V453000> "oh I set the newGRF badly, I had no engines available for 100 years, please help!" 08:39:16 <Alberth> the game should be more helpful with that, I agree 08:39:29 <Alberth> same happens with no wagons for cargo types etc 08:39:29 <V453000> but simply stretching time is great, they cant screw it up 08:39:51 <V453000> I would still very much appreciate more control for newGRF to make vehicles expire at some precise date 08:39:56 <V453000> myeah 08:40:16 <V453000> btw what do you think about YETI providing 1 special wagon only for Workers? 08:40:16 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:40:49 <V453000> idk what class to give to yetis ... oversized will mostly look like some machinery I assume 08:41:06 <V453000> so far they have no class 08:41:16 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 08:41:18 <Alberth> could be useful 08:41:38 <Alberth> on the other hand, you're probably never going to be compatible with all vehicle sets 08:41:57 <V453000> no, but all of the other cargoes are usually defined by vehicle sets 08:42:10 <V453000> and by defined I mean defined and the cargo looks +- how I want it to look 08:42:34 <V453000> idk how Uranium would look, it is bulk, so probably mostly some coal-ish, I think pikka uses gray bulks for undefined things 08:42:53 <V453000> point is, heap of something doesnt matter, yeti monsters do 08:43:03 <Alberth> but you're not in agreement with other people either wrt other cargoes :) 08:43:06 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:44:04 <Alberth> eg CHIPS uses purple/pink-ish for iron ore, you use brown or yellow-ish iirc 08:44:31 <V453000> well that is andy and he already agreed that pinkish is bullshit :D and other vehicles do use very similar brown to mine 08:44:41 <V453000> right andythenorth ? 08:44:59 <Alberth> also, maybe you should give other authors the chance to adapt their set to your yetis 08:45:07 <V453000> "other people" usually dont define all cargoes, I do 08:45:22 <V453000> they can adapt the set to yetis if they explicitly want 08:45:33 <V453000> just add cargo YETI to refittable and easy 08:45:56 <V453000> but if YETI provides one such wagon itself, they dont Have to 08:46:20 <V453000> if NUTS is loaded with YETI, the wagon would simply not appear 08:46:50 <peter1138> It's a pinkybrown :p 08:47:09 <Alberth> pinky brain :) 08:48:09 <V453000> Alberth: is there even any newGRF which would define each and every ECS+FIRS+PikkaBasicI. cargo? 08:48:26 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:49:28 <Alberth> for default set it would work, as it won't get changed (perhaps in opengfx+trains something may be added). As for other vehicle sets, I seriously doubt they would use your wagon, as "it's not realistic", or "it doesn't fit in the vehicle style". 08:50:21 <Alberth> I don't know how many people load a industry set, but not a vehicle set. Not many, I am guessing 08:51:19 <V453000> "it is not realistic" applies to YETI itself, too :P 08:51:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:51:40 <V453000> the idea is just not to make other train sets useless, while keeping YETI as a unique cargo without the need for cargo class 08:52:16 <Alberth> (10:48:09) V453000: Alberth: is there even any newGRF which would define each and every ECS+FIRS+PikkaBasicI. cargo? <-- I honestly don't know, except for a few, most vehicle sets are just collections of a zillion vehicles to me. I cannot bother to dig my way through them 08:52:19 <V453000> making other train sets use a custom wagon sounds a lot better to me than seeing YETIs as goods crates 08:52:40 <V453000> well I did dig through a lot myself Alberth :P 08:54:45 <Alberth> I do agree it's the most you can do for YETIs. 08:55:08 <V453000> not so much through the newer train sets like dutch/xUSSR, but those are so bad that even if they did define all cargoes they would still not be very useful :D 08:55:12 <V453000> aye :) 08:57:33 <Alberth> it will be interesting to see how many vehicle sets adopt it :) 08:58:31 <V453000> 0 08:58:31 <V453000> ? 09:00:41 <Alberth> nah, I predict at least NUTS will acknowledge its existence :D 09:01:05 <Alberth> and default vehicles will use it too :) 09:01:47 <V453000> I dont count nuts :) 09:01:51 <Alberth> and opengfx+trains 09:02:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 09:02:29 <Alberth> hi hi andy 09:03:17 <V453000> hyhy 09:03:50 <Alberth> will iron horse and squid adopt YETIs as cargo? 09:03:56 <andythenorth> no idea :) 09:04:12 <V453000> eat him! 09:04:26 * andythenorth biab 09:04:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 09:05:29 <V453000> wat 09:07:36 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-202-212.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 09:44:48 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 09:50:17 <Alberth> sending in the yetis may not be the optimal strategy :) 09:50:57 <V453000> :D 09:56:58 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:83:fe6:8536:c5e] has joined #openttd 10:04:25 <Alberth> engines seem overpowered for cargo transport in troptical refurbishment set, pulling a 64 km/h wagon with a 104 km/h engine :) 10:08:51 <planetmaker> power is not speed :) 10:09:14 <planetmaker> but I noticed that, too. The engine top speed often is pointless when you play with wagon speed limits 10:16:41 <V453000> I think wagon speed limits are completely pointless 10:17:06 <V453000> if trains are to be competitively viable against each other, there should be no need of another limit that would cripple some trains down 10:17:48 <Alberth> wagonspeedlimits on <-- the readme suggests to use it :) 10:17:56 <V453000> .................................. 10:43:18 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-255-31-85.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 10:47:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:15:06 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-202-212.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:19:02 *** jpierre03_ [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20:45 *** jpierre03 [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has joined #openttd 11:42:56 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-255-31-85.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 11:48:03 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 11:58:18 *** jpierre03 [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:59:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:05:23 *** jpierre03 [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has joined #openttd 12:07:56 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:44:04 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3638.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:48:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6AB6C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:50:36 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 13:01:38 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:07:48 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:13:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:14:10 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 13:14:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:15:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 13:31:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:41:11 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:41:53 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:48:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:51:46 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-202-212.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 14:12:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 14:13:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 14:14:36 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: reboot] 14:28:49 <__ln__> http://www.kwch.com/news/local-news/train-carrying-737-fuselages-derails-in-montana/26803140 14:31:27 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-202-212.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59:25 <__ln__> hey central-europeans, how many different keys do you need to get into your apartment from outside the building? 15:00:55 *** Guest1071 [~darius@c-3661e555.046-4-64736c16.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 15:01:45 <V453000> 2 usually 15:01:49 <Guest1071> hey. i am not new to openttd, but this is the first time i am considering getting some NewGRFs etc. but there is so many of them, i am not sure which one to get. anyone got some "must-have" or is there anyway to sort NewGRFs by popularity? 15:02:15 <V453000> it depends how you play and what you like Guest1071 :) 15:02:22 <Alberth> all normal houses usually have 1 door you need to get through :) 15:02:25 *** Guest1071 is now known as tus_ 15:03:26 <Alberth> tus_: there is no common popular set, as V says, it depends on how you play the game 15:03:26 <tus_> V453000, I am thinking of sets for (1) air, (2) vehicles and (3) trains not much more. i am interested in those that let me start from 1800 and play to like 2000+ :p 15:03:58 <tus_> i have been googling like mad for some kind of list but most are outdated and there is no "one huge list" but if i have missed anything pls let me know 15:04:00 <Alberth> ie realistic, build large network, eye-candy 15:04:23 <V453000> try NUTS Unrealistic Train Set for trains 15:04:26 <V453000> eGRVTS for road vehicles 15:04:29 <Alberth> tus_: online content right from the main menu? :) 15:04:34 <V453000> and aircraft is pretty much only Av8 15:04:34 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: usually one for the building door and one for the flat (plus one for the cellar and one for the mail box). but you can add as many locks to your flat as you like 15:04:49 <Alberth> ships is squid 15:05:07 <Eddi|zuHause> actually, two for the cellar. it's usually behind another main door 15:05:10 <tus_> Alberth that list is genius but i wish there was a way to sort by popularity to help new players get into that. otherwise i have no idea to start :p 15:05:23 <tus_> V453000 thanks man! I will be looking these up! 15:05:34 <Alberth> tus_: coming here is a good way :) 15:05:45 <Eddi|zuHause> which may or may not use the same key as the building door 15:06:15 <Alberth> but everybody has his/her own style of playing, so there is no common agreement on popular grfs 15:06:39 <tus_> ah I see. Well atleast I got some guidance now so I can get started slowly. 15:06:40 <__ln__> i'm used to having just one key that fits both the building front door and the flat door. and the same key opens also cellar doors or whatever other doors i am supposed to have access to. 15:06:57 <tus_> By the way, I am using AdmiralAI as AI. Is it a stupid idea to have like 5 AdmiralAIs? Is it best to have 5 different AIs instead? 15:07:17 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: maybe with more modern lock systems that have selective keys that works 15:07:19 <Alberth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewforum.php?f=67 can be useful for searching 15:07:35 <V453000> tus_: I recommend turning on expiring vehicles, and start in 1900 with NUTS ;) I believe you can start earlier than that, it does have trains, but the next new train will be in 1900-something 15:08:00 <Alberth> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/ can be useful too 15:08:04 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: but that may make it more expensive if you actually lose a key 15:08:09 <V453000> expiring vehicles will make sure you dont get overwhelmed by the amount of vehicles, while NUTS is well adapted for it 15:08:51 <tus_> thanks for the tip 15:09:34 <V453000> yw 15:09:42 <Eddi|zuHause> tus_: yes, it works better when you have different types of AI. AIs that think alike tend to get in each others way 15:09:46 <Alberth> with grfcrawler I always have the idea that the stuff is old 15:09:52 <__ln__> Eddi|zuHause: knowing that such 1-key systems have been widely used in finland for decades makes me kind of facepalm when at a central european hotel i'm handed 2 or 3 keys that are needed just to get into my room. 15:10:29 <tus_> Eddi|zuHause thanks, that's probably why in my test game all of them had bus stations in same towns lol 15:10:55 <Alberth> __ln__: it's called "authentic" :) 15:11:22 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: that's when they are so cheap they can't afford a key system 15:12:21 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-255-31-85.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 15:15:05 <__ln__> http://www.abloy.com/en/abloy/abloycom/products/abloy-key-systems/abloy-master-key-solutions/ 15:20:46 <Alberth> the number of central european hotel owners here are close to 0 :) 15:22:24 <__ln__> i don't think the madness is limited to hotels, it's about regular apartment buildings too. 15:26:27 <Alberth> quite likely :) 15:32:59 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:47:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:19 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:00:23 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:01:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:07:42 <SpComb> they're switching over from abloy execs here 16:07:47 <SpComb> starting to see iLoq's 16:07:55 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:07:59 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:28:19 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:29:15 *** Chrill_ [~Chrill@c83-255-31-85.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 16:29:58 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-255-31-85.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:36:31 <peter1138> Meanwhile I have a different key for every lock, at home. 16:38:57 <__ln__> and i bet hot and cold water comes from two different taps 16:40:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:41:09 <planetmaker> hi hi 16:54:08 <Alberth> o/ 16:54:32 *** Chrill_ is now known as Chrill 16:57:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:59:09 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21:28 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 17:22:18 *** Jerik [~Jerik@c-68-80-55-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:45 <peter1138> __ln__, sometimes... mixer taps are bloody expensive. 17:53:38 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.29.104] has joined #openttd 18:19:51 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't seen separate taps in ages 18:28:45 <Alberth> no garden with a tap for cold water? 18:29:06 *** tus_ [~darius@c-3661e555.046-4-64736c16.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 18:29:42 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, lies. Or you haven't been at the OpenTTD meetings ;) 18:29:47 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:30:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't paid attention, probably 18:30:35 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: our garden doesn't have a tap. we collect rain water. 18:31:38 <Alberth> kk, no tap thus in the garden :) 18:31:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: anyway, "cold-water-only-tap" is something different to "separate tap" 18:32:06 <Alberth> fair enough :) 18:35:41 <V453000> both sound unrelated to beer 18:35:43 <V453000> hence wtf 18:48:09 <Alberth> assuming yetis drink water and beer by the barrel, it doesn't sound yeti related either 18:54:26 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:b8de:3c6:712:6652] has joined #openttd 18:54:26 *** glx is now known as Guest1105 18:54:27 *** glx_ is now known as glx 18:54:29 <V453000> EXACTLY 19:00:53 *** Guest1105 [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:03:39 <__ln__> http://youtu.be/mzMUTrTYD9s 19:15:54 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:19:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:20:57 *** tus [~darius@c-3661e555.046-4-64736c16.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 19:20:59 *** tus is now known as tus_ 19:21:55 <andythenorth> where is cat? 19:22:13 <V453000> here 19:23:28 <andythenorth> good to know 19:25:14 <V453000> PAT ME 19:29:10 <tus_> Is it possible to have a t random world generation? By that mean that it randomizes Smoothnees, number of industries etc. I can't seem to see anything. 19:29:59 <Alberth> close your eyes, click and move the mouse randomly? :) 19:30:04 <Alberth> otherwise, no 19:30:32 <tus_> haha, i will do the close my eyes thing ;) thanks 19:30:43 <Alberth> you can get a savegame from the forum, and continue playing with that perhaps 19:31:00 <tus_> ya it's no major problem anyway! game is awesome as it is 19:31:42 <Alberth> settings are in openttd.cfg, you could probably write a script that changes them before you start the program 19:32:11 <tus_> interesting, thanks man 19:32:53 <planetmaker> I need that with a web interface :) 19:33:20 <V453000> Alberth: savegames from the forum have too high likelihood od being simply BAD :P 19:33:47 <planetmaker> V453000, I think we should start archiving the games from stable server, too 19:33:58 <Alberth> you can also do "click and move the mouse randomly" at the web browser, not sure whether you end up at a safe place :) 19:34:17 <tus_> i am not sure if any of the devs are here, but thanks for the awesome game 19:34:25 <planetmaker> I might end up in the irc window, Alberth ;) 19:34:35 <Alberth> :D 19:35:41 <planetmaker> Much appreciated. Glad you like it, tus_ :) 19:51:55 *** strohalm [~smoofi@cpe-10feedc22125.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has quit [Quit: just quited] 19:53:25 *** strohalm [~smoofi@cpe-10feedc22125.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:32 *** Chrill [~Chrill@c83-255-31-85.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 20:02:57 <andythenorth> wine is more-ish 20:04:17 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.29.104] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:49 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:14:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:27:59 <Alberth> good night 20:28:48 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:57:09 *** Tivec__ [~Tivec@ti0018a400-0678.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:13 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:07:08 <andythenorth> bye 21:07:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:11:18 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 21:15:45 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:e1b8:f36a:d5da:4c1f] has joined #openttd 22:02:19 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has joined #openttd 22:06:46 *** Jerik [~Jerik@c-68-80-55-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:10:33 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12:09 *** DigitalFox [~DigitalFo@bl16-53-223.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 22:12:33 <DigitalFox> Hi :) 22:16:55 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:83:fe6:8536:c5e] has quit [Quit: .] 22:17:18 <Wolf01> 'night 22:17:23 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:17:33 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 22:25:15 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 22:29:24 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:35:12 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d110-32-18-190.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:55:12 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:55:21 <fjb> Moin. 22:59:24 <planetmaker> o/ 23:01:59 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:05:58 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:13:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1ABF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:35:29 *** DigitalFox [~DigitalFo@bl16-53-223.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]] 23:55:50 <tus_> how stupid is it to use the same AI script for 4-5 computer players? I am having a bit of a hard time finding AI:s that do trains, airs, vehicles etc together. 23:57:21 <planetmaker> it's not necessarily the best idea. But it depends on the AI. You could give NoCAB a shot as well 23:57:54 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/Comparison_of_AIs 23:58:29 <planetmaker> not sure how current the table is. But there has been remarkably little AI development recently 23:59:01 <tus_> ohh thanks for that table. it's really helpful, even if it may be outdated. I already tried NoCAB but it seems to work sometimes, sometimes not. Weird. Maybe it takes a bit to utilize. Thanks