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00:04:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:13 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:08:59 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:18:23 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 00:44:03 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:56:37 *** bdavenport [~davenport@aeolus.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 01:01:49 *** InvokeStatic_ [~Invoke@97-83-98-15.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:03:15 *** InvokeStatic [~Invoke@97-83-98-15.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 01:35:07 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 01:42:03 *** LadyHawk- [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 01:45:13 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:45:16 *** LadyHawk- is now known as LadyHawk 02:08:41 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:17:54 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 02:42:23 *** Markk [mark@h30n15-nt-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:55:07 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4C04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD42E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:57:32 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A0BB66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:59:23 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 05:08:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D8CD.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:15:31 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43:07 *** Hazzard__ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 05:43:25 *** Hazzard is now known as Guest335 05:43:25 *** Hazzard__ is now known as Hazzard 05:49:27 *** Guest335 [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:58:40 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A0BB66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04:01 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:17:34 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 06:42:53 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:81d8:5f07:e488:5748] has joined #openttd 06:53:33 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 07:03:07 *** shirish_ [~quassel@59.97.96.125] has joined #openttd 07:06:42 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:19:31 <keoz> hi 08:00:57 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:81d8:5f07:e488:5748] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:04:53 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:05:30 <Wolf01> hello o/ 08:05:49 <__ln__> the daily wolf 08:10:10 *** joho^_^ [~joho@takamachi.nanoha.se] has joined #openttd 08:10:31 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@254-058-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 08:10:44 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> oxygen.oftc.net quits: apfohl, joho, tyteen4a03, efess, Xaroth, murr4y 08:13:14 *** apfohl [~apfohl@chekov.apfohl.de] has joined #openttd 08:13:59 *** tyteen4a03 [tyteen4a03@Daedalusx.net] has joined #openttd 08:16:26 *** murr4y [murray@kvikshaug.no] has joined #openttd 08:27:12 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A0BB66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:39:11 *** welshdragon [~chatzilla@cpc1-oxfd20-2-0-cust78.4-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:39:24 *** welshdragon [~chatzilla@cpc1-oxfd20-2-0-cust78.4-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 08:52:48 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 09:08:40 *** InvokeStatic_ [~Invoke@97-83-98-15.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 09:08:40 *** InvokeStatic [~Invoke@97-83-98-15.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:26:01 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-13-56.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:26:08 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-42-152.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:56:24 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:81d8:5f07:e488:5748] has joined #openttd 10:04:04 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:20 <keoz> Squirrel/GS question: How can I check for the existence of a table slot in an if statement (thus avoiding to try to access to an inexistent element ?) 10:13:39 <planetmaker> No idea about squirrel... but can you check type or size? 10:25:32 <keoz> According to http://forum.squirrel-lang.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=1981, it's not possible. Well it's not a big problem, I just wanted to perform that check while temporarily changing the savegame data format. 10:34:44 <planetmaker> well, you probably need not worry much about existing savegames. They'll be continued with the old version of the script, thus no problem. Hence, for new ones, you can simply use a new data format, if you need it 10:39:00 <keoz> mmh actually I just found it: rawin(key) 10:40:14 <keoz> But basically yes, it's not necessary. 10:41:32 <LadyHawk> [13/8][02:45:16] -NickServ- This hostname matches an entry on the access list of nickname LadyHawk. You 10:41:32 <LadyHawk> [13/8][02:45:16] -NickServ- have been automatically identified. 10:41:33 <LadyHawk> <3 10:41:44 * LadyHawk has a "moment" with nickserv 10:44:35 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:09:48 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 11:12:45 *** dxtr [bec569bd@000182a2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:27:33 *** jarcosmonaut [~oz@166.179.66.18] has joined #openttd 11:31:47 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest383 11:31:48 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 11:37:31 *** Guest383 [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:46:03 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52:35 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:53:51 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 11:56:43 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:59:31 <keoz> mmh... There is no possible context, where a city might be deleted in game, apart from the scenario editor ? 12:06:23 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.178.37] has joined #openttd 12:11:12 <planetmaker> that's right, KenjiE20 12:11:15 <planetmaker> err... keoz 12:21:36 <keoz> O, planetmaker. That's better for my GS :p 12:21:44 <keoz> s/O/Ok/ 12:22:44 <keoz> Mmh. Actually, I'm telling myself, it'd be nice, also handling the case of deleting a city in scenario editor. 12:24:38 <keoz> Mmh. But there is no GSEvent for that. But actually, doesn't matter. Deleted city's saved data will just no be used next time. 13:08:00 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:30:09 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 13:40:05 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 13:47:45 <planetmaker> keoz, you really have found your "peace of code"? ;) 13:48:27 <planetmaker> I envy you 14:25:12 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:14 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:35:42 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 14:36:42 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 14:49:15 *** eQualizer [~lauri@46-163-226-192.blcnet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:18 *** eQualizer [~lauri@46-163-226-192.blcnet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:49:28 <MTsPony> Is there a way to load static grfs before the normal ones, rather then after? 14:52:13 <planetmaker> I would have thought that they're loaded first. But I know no way to influence the ordering 14:54:16 <MTsPony> damn. 14:54:32 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:54:51 <MTsPony> perhaps place [static-grf] entry before the current active section? 14:55:04 <MTsPony> Or did nobody ever think about ordering grf 14:55:17 <MTsPony> when it comes to statics :p 14:55:42 <planetmaker> try it and see :) 14:55:52 <planetmaker> the latter is an absolutely possible scenario 14:56:04 <MTsPony> :( 14:56:10 <planetmaker> given that static newgrfs are not accessible even from ingame (where they damn well should be configurable) 14:56:50 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:57:33 <MTsPony> yes they are accesible from ingame. 14:57:57 <MTsPony> i can even change the order of the loaded static grf in game 14:58:29 <MTsPony> they just have a different color in the list 15:00:30 <LordAro> planetmaker: well you know what people say to that... ;) 15:09:20 <Rubidium> if you are able to move static NewGRFs before non-static ones, then that's a bug. If static NewGRFs can be loaded before non-static NewGRFs, then that is a bug as well 15:09:21 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:35 <Rubidium> since either case potentially breaks multiplayer 15:17:07 <planetmaker> hm... true. They must be loaded or they could be checked-for 15:17:14 <planetmaker> *loaded last 15:26:46 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 15:29:12 *** Hazzard [~2668e0ee@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 15:40:23 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:58 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:42:03 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 15:50:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6DCF5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:54:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B2A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:55:38 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:55:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:14:57 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:25:53 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f741c4c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:30:44 <Alberth> evenink 16:32:36 <frosch123> hola 16:48:51 <LordAro> quk 16:51:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B2A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03:32 *** InvokeStatic_ [~Invoke@97-83-98-15.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:03:37 *** InvokeStatic [~Invoke@97-83-98-15.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 17:28:26 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51:10 *** ntx [~ntx@a88-115-29-236.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53:10 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 18:02:52 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3856.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:07:18 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:14:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:15:13 <Alberth> hi hi 18:15:55 <andythenorth> o/ 18:19:12 <andythenorth> so I have two of these to donate to ottd devs (assuming anyone actually wants one) 18:19:13 <andythenorth> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook-core-2-duo-2.0-white-13-late-2007-santa-rosa-specs.html 18:19:16 <andythenorth> 4GB RAM 18:23:53 *** ntx [~ntx@a88-115-29-236.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:27:44 <LordAro> "*This system can run the last version of OS X 10.7 "Lion" if upgraded to at least 2 GB of RAM. It is not supported booting into 64-bit mode when running Mac OS X 10.6 "Snow Leopard." It does not support "OpenCL" either. Please also note that OS X Lion is not capable of running Mac OS X apps originally written for the PowerPC processor as it does not support the "Rosetta" environment." 18:27:50 <LordAro> probably relevant 18:28:11 <LordAro> not that i know macs at all 18:30:12 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:35 <andythenorth> stuck on OS 10.7.5 18:31:40 <andythenorth> wonât go to Mavericks (10.9) 18:39:02 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:01 <planetmaker> Well... Not sure how much I'll actually get to developement on OSX in the future. But I sure could use it as test machine for the semi-new OSXe. Not sure how long my 10.6 incarnation will still survive 18:49:17 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 18:51:51 <andythenorth> isnât your Mac newer than that anyway? :o 18:53:14 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:17 <planetmaker> nope 18:55:23 <planetmaker> it's about the same 18:55:39 <planetmaker> and I'm fearing for about a year that it'll die due to overheat 18:56:34 <planetmaker> probably mine is slightly older even 18:56:48 <planetmaker> it originally shipped with 10.4 18:57:52 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:13 <planetmaker> I even upgraded it from 1MByte RAM to 2 18:58:21 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 19:01:03 <andythenorth> ideally there would be something running mavericks 19:01:09 <andythenorth> but I canât afford to give those away :P 19:01:28 <andythenorth> theyâre still worth 20%-50% of purchase price, used 19:01:52 <planetmaker> yeah, they keep value quite nicely 19:02:05 <planetmaker> also, it's not like they don't work anymore :) 19:02:52 <andythenorth> for some definitions of âworkâ :) 19:03:17 <planetmaker> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook-core-2-duo-2.1-white-13-early-2008-penryn-specs.html <-- I believe this is about mine. So to my surprise might be slightly newer... 19:03:38 <planetmaker> And yes, it still works. And damn well, please works till at least end of this month. I need it during travel 19:03:52 <andythenorth> :) 19:04:03 <planetmaker> It's the device which knows all the presentations I gave in the last near-decade :P 19:05:09 <Rubidium> I hope there's another device that knows that as well ;) 19:05:20 <Rubidium> a thumbdrive or so 19:07:01 <planetmaker> it's mirrored to my desktop. But they mostly would be useless without a mac 19:08:03 <Rubidium> yay vendor lock-in 19:08:32 *** Tuhin [~Tuhin@ip141c85.banglalionwimax.com] has joined #openttd 19:08:46 <andythenorth> pays your money, takes your choice 19:08:49 <planetmaker> file format reasons, yes 19:08:50 <andythenorth> English saying 19:09:55 * andythenorth looks for something interesting on internet 19:10:12 <andythenorth> hmm nothing 19:11:32 <Alberth> that's normal :p 19:11:55 <planetmaker> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook-core-2-duo-2.0-white-13-specs.html <-- actually that's closer. And thus I remembered correctly... a year older than yours ;) 19:17:04 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@179.154.136.3] has joined #openttd 19:17:36 <planetmaker> need to waste time, andythenorth? Listen to nerd song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kXkWXSXRA&feature=share 19:20:14 <andythenorth> time duly wasted ;) 19:20:31 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.178.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:31 <planetmaker> :P 19:20:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B2A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:31:19 *** lastmikoi [~lastmikoi@vm-01.lastmikoi.net] has joined #openttd 19:31:51 <DorpsGek> Commit by alberth :: r26729 /trunk/src (4 files in 2 dirs) (2014-08-13 19:31:45 UTC) 19:31:52 <DorpsGek> -Feature: Warn about missing industries after generating a map. 19:33:33 <planetmaker> \o/ 19:33:34 <lastmikoi> Hello there, I'm having some issues with NewGRFs and a dedicated server setup under Centos6 (OpenTTD 1.4.1) : I tried installing with the built-in "content" command, then tried importing my OpenTTD client settings, but neither of theses methods allowed me to host a game with my installed NewGRF /active/. 19:34:26 <Taede> ello 19:34:52 <planetmaker> hi 19:34:57 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:35:09 <planetmaker> lastmikoi, you need on the server the exact same versions of the NewGRF as you use in the map which you try to load 19:35:28 <Alberth> openttd client is a windows machine, and uses \ in its paths instead of the / thingies in unix? 19:35:57 <lastmikoi> I ran my openttd with "-D -d grf=1 -d misc=2" in order to troubleshoot this problem, and it's successfully scanning NewGRFs, without activating them (Even if I'm using my openttd.conf with proper [newgrf] settings) 19:35:58 <planetmaker> If you used any NewGRF which is not found in our online content, that won't succeed. Also it won't download all versions of every content but only the newest version thereof 19:36:37 <lastmikoi> planetmaker: Indeed, but even if I'm generating a new map, the game just starts without any mods 19:37:04 <planetmaker> despite your server's openttd.cfg listing some NewGRFs in its [newgrf] section? 19:37:20 <lastmikoi> It only list them when I'm importing my configuration 19:37:21 <planetmaker> Did you try to specify the used cfg explicitly via command line parameter -c 19:37:37 <planetmaker> what do you mean with "importing your configuration"? 19:37:48 <lastmikoi> but the -misc=2 loglevel shows about successfully scanning NewGRFs 19:38:16 <lastmikoi> Wait a second, I'm about to feel really dumb if Alberth is right. 19:38:25 <planetmaker> close down the server. Modify or rewrite your cfg on the server then. Then restart the server 19:38:58 <planetmaker> The server will rewrite its cfg upon exit with the currently used cfg. If that's w/o NewGRF and you changed the cfg on the disk in between, that will be overwritten 19:39:25 <lastmikoi> Yeah I noticed that. 19:41:10 <lastmikoi> mhh, no, even if I switch '\' to '/' in the [newgrf] section, the server is not taking that into account. 19:41:46 <lastmikoi> and closes then empties the [newgrf] section like nothing has been there 19:41:53 *** shirish_ [~quassel@59.97.96.125] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 19:42:18 <planetmaker> That means the files aren't found 19:42:39 <planetmaker> Are you sure you used the newest version as available from our online content? 19:42:58 <planetmaker> and did you really download them successfully? Are they in the content_download/newgrf dir? 19:43:14 <lastmikoi> dbg: [misc] Found tar '/home/openttd/.openttd/content_download/newgrf/CHIPS_Station_Set-1.4.0.tar' with 4 new files 19:43:17 *** shirish [~quassel@59.97.96.125] has joined #openttd 19:43:56 <lastmikoi> I'll pastebin my server output, to simplify. 19:44:23 <planetmaker> that indicates that it found CHIPS 1.4 indeed 19:44:29 <planetmaker> upon startup 19:44:34 <lastmikoi> http://pastebin.com/zLf2tB4e 19:44:38 <planetmaker> not that it's one NewGRF being used, though 19:45:24 <lastmikoi> Yup, so I modified the [newgrf] section hoping it would /use/ my downloaded newgrfs, without success 19:46:12 <planetmaker> well, what did your [newgrf] section look like? 19:46:44 <planetmaker> chips.grf = 19:46:48 <planetmaker> ^ I'd expect 19:46:53 <planetmaker> as an example 19:47:41 <planetmaker> hm... that's outdated, I see :) 19:48:35 <lastmikoi> http://pastebin.com/BE9kMP09 19:48:39 <planetmaker> 414E0101|5D665C64693A438E3046C22666F46E08|fish_ship_set-0.9.2/fish.grf = 19:48:49 <planetmaker> ^ maybe that format, too. Dunno when we changed the format :) 19:49:29 <lastmikoi> Yeah that's why I thought importing the config section from my windows client was a viable Idea 19:49:59 <lastmikoi> (same version, supposedly same format) 19:50:08 <planetmaker> ok, so we changed the config file format after OpenTTD 1.4. Same version, same format, that's right 19:50:13 <planetmaker> except path delimiter 19:50:22 <lastmikoi> yup, but that didn't worked either 19:50:32 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 19:52:03 <lastmikoi> Okay, now it's working. I must have f*ed something earlier. 19:52:19 <lastmikoi> so Alberth was right 19:52:36 <planetmaker> he is often right ;) 19:52:39 <lastmikoi> :) 19:53:39 <Alberth> I just watched and learned from master glx :p 19:54:09 <lastmikoi> perfect, I'll just need to fix this "conflicting trainset grf found" issue and I'll be ready to play, thanks to both of you ;) 19:54:18 <Alberth> yw 19:55:30 <Alberth> planetmaker: I think there are more map settings that are not independent, in my view at least the industry density is one 19:57:55 <planetmaker> Alberth, in what way independent? You mean in order to ensure that the map will be actually playable in terms of towns / all industries /... ? 19:58:55 <Alberth> hmm, depends perhaps on how bad you think it is to have too many industries :) 20:00:25 <Alberth> I wonder what happens with dense industries and 80% water :p 20:02:13 <planetmaker> the same as with dense industries and 10% water: most land covered by industries :P 20:02:34 <Alberth> :P 20:03:08 <planetmaker> oh... and MAAANY oil rigs (if time and climate allows) 20:03:27 <planetmaker> happy shipping times ahead. Just missing: "disaster: oil spill" 20:04:34 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@179.154.136.3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:47 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/Mars, sub-arctic, 1960-09-16.png like this? :) 20:05:08 <Alberth> mars height map in arctic, it's all above snow level, except this area 20:05:45 <LordAro> heh 20:05:48 <planetmaker> yeah, the large Southern impact basin is really low ;) 20:06:02 <planetmaker> and yes, that looks familiar 20:06:18 <Alberth> you made it, didn't you? :) 20:06:43 <planetmaker> well... I adopted it for OpenTTD. It's an actual elevation model 20:07:11 <Alberth> oh, nice :) 20:07:13 <planetmaker> The readme knows better where I grabbed it on some nasa site than I recall :) 20:07:28 <Alberth> I was talking about Mars ;) 20:07:32 <planetmaker> yeah 20:08:17 * planetmaker , too :) 20:09:11 <planetmaker> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/science/treiman/greatdesert/workshop/marsmaps1/marsmaps1_imgs/mola_color_4.jpg <-- based on that data 20:09:32 *** apfohl [~apfohl@chekov.apfohl.de] has left #openttd [WeeChat 0.4.3] 20:10:49 <planetmaker> Mars' "problem" is its gigantic elevation range, compared to its size in relation to other solar system bodies 20:11:07 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:81d8:5f07:e488:5748] has quit [Quit: .] 20:11:10 <planetmaker> Mountains 20km high, depressions 8km deep. That's about twice the topographic difference to Earth 20:11:12 <Alberth> yeah, -8k to +12k 20:11:20 <planetmaker> oh, ok +12 :) 20:11:29 <planetmaker> still, 20km :) 20:11:48 <planetmaker> We should flood it at 0 :) 20:11:57 <frosch123> what's the relative height you are measing them too? 20:11:59 <planetmaker> Would make for two very distinct hemispheres 20:12:12 <frosch123> what's your water level? :p 20:12:34 <planetmaker> dunno :) mean height? 20:13:01 <frosch123> well, you say -8 to +12 20:13:05 <planetmaker> Looking at the valles marineris, it seems to be somewhat below mean height, somewhere in the darker turquoise range 20:13:20 <planetmaker> those numbers are deviation from mean 20:13:23 <frosch123> so 0 is mean value? 20:13:29 <frosch123> ok :) 20:13:36 <planetmaker> yeah, 0 is the reference ellipsoid 20:16:36 <Alberth> gn 20:16:50 <planetmaker> g'night, Alberth 20:16:55 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:18:58 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:33 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 20:45:58 <frosch123> night 20:46:01 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f741c4c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:04:45 <andythenorth> bye 21:04:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:12:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B2A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:38 *** [1]Tuhin [~Tuhin@ip142c124.banglalionwimax.com] has joined #openttd 21:23:03 *** welshdragon [~chatzilla@cpc1-oxfd20-2-0-cust78.4-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 21:24:32 *** Tuhin [~Tuhin@ip141c85.banglalionwimax.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:24:33 *** [1]Tuhin is now known as Tuhin 21:34:42 *** Tuhin [~Tuhin@ip142c124.banglalionwimax.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:36:26 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:43:36 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 21:59:54 *** welshdragon [~chatzilla@cpc1-oxfd20-2-0-cust78.4-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:01 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:19:22 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 22:33:41 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3856.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:36:53 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:55 *** montalvo [~montalvo@c-76-103-107-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:38:02 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:46:50 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 23:01:54 <Wolf01> 'night 23:02:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:14:30 *** MTsPony [~marctraid@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [] 23:19:19 *** MTsPony [~marctraid@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 23:24:44 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 23:43:25 *** Hazzard [~2668e0ee@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:47:58 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:06 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51:05 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A0BB66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54:54 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd