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00:05:04 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:10:06 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:10:09 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:12:41 <Wolf01> 'night all 00:12:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:13:13 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:13:27 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:19:03 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:19:36 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:19:55 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has joined #openttd 00:21:02 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 00:22:06 *** krinn [~krinn@73.227.101.84.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:49:33 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:28 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-166-169-15.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:54:55 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [SeaMonkey 2.26.1/20140623143310]] 00:55:43 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 00:56:37 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:57:25 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 00:58:25 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 01:00:44 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 01:07:24 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:14:43 <luaduck> if anyone's still awake, is there a way to get the openttd binary to immediately connect to a server on launch (command line maybe)? 01:16:41 <Supercheese> command line "connect <host>" may work (https://wiki.openttd.org/Console_Commands) 01:21:24 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:22:17 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 01:24:14 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:26:40 <luaduck> is there an autoexec or similar then 01:26:58 <luaduck> ah yes there is, autoexec.scr 01:34:35 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 01:35:53 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:36:32 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:43:05 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:43:38 <glx> luaduck: -n [ip:port#player] 01:43:50 <luaduck> huh, interesting 01:44:00 <glx> 255 is spectator IIRC 01:44:16 <luaduck> the wiki is kinda unclear about that switch does 01:46:00 <glx> and now I'm gone :) 01:46:07 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:07:08 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:17:51 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 02:23:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.177.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:23:53 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 03:16:53 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:18:58 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:20:04 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 04:25:19 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:28:36 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67ED5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4684.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:59:52 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 05:15:53 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:33:48 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:44:17 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 06:09:34 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:1591:ce3f:69b7:829] has joined #openttd 06:12:44 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:21:48 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:41 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 06:30:13 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-166-169-15.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:44:24 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:54:24 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 07:00:30 *** Extrems1 [~super@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 07:04:57 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:19:03 *** TheMask96- [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 07:24:48 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:25:09 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:25:17 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A08282.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:33:02 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 07:43:34 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:47:01 <planetmaker> luaduck_zzz, you don't exactly need the wiki to know about openttd's command line options. Just openttd -h suffices. It's quite verbose about it 07:48:00 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-166-169-15.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:01:33 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:05:20 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 08:38:19 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-26-5.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41:48 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:42:00 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:42:02 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 08:42:23 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 08:49:12 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A08282.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:49:43 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:54:11 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:04:14 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 09:05:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:06:02 <Wolf01> hi hi 09:14:38 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:21:34 <Taede> mornin 09:26:39 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-35-3.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:29:11 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 09:29:38 <planetmaker> hi hi 09:32:06 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:51:40 *** keoz_ [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 09:54:33 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:57:46 <V453000> hyhhy 10:11:42 *** jarcosmonaut [~oz@166.179.66.18] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 10:17:11 *** jarcosmonaut [~oz@166.179.66.18] has joined #openttd 10:22:27 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:25:44 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 10:31:54 <keoz_> hi 10:32:30 *** keoz_ is now known as keoz 10:59:29 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:11:50 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 11:17:18 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 11:20:44 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:31:40 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest625 11:31:41 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 11:36:43 *** Guest625 [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:06 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:58:24 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 12:01:38 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 12:03:27 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 12:11:40 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 12:16:33 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:21:53 *** keoz_ [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:51 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A08282.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:49:09 *** Cursarion [xrs@adishbestservedworldly.xrs.fi] has joined #openttd 12:49:14 <Cursarion> hiya 12:49:23 <Cursarion> anyone awake? 12:50:50 <planetmaker> *yawn* 12:50:51 <Cursarion> been playing OpenTTD a lot lately and realized I have 1.3.2 and could probably update it 12:51:04 <Cursarion> I've noticed couple of semi-bugs with it, I wonder if they're fixed in 1.4.1 12:51:30 <planetmaker> check the changelog and you might know. Update and play and you might know better :) 12:53:13 <planetmaker> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/export/26730/tags/1.4.1/changelog.txt 12:53:49 <Cursarion> yeah, I've ctrl-f'd a couple of them 12:54:11 <Cursarion> didn't find helicopters nor catchments... 12:54:27 <planetmaker> both are not exactly buggy, are they? 12:54:34 <Cursarion> well 12:54:36 <Cursarion> I apparently can't buy helicopters anymore in 2050-60ss 12:54:53 <planetmaker> with default vehicles, that's true 12:56:58 <planetmaker> that's a known quirk. But one which we cannot fix without introducing other similar quirks. 12:57:18 <planetmaker> Not sure whether it's in the known-bugs.txt mentioned. But it's somewhat a "won't fix" 12:59:02 <Cursarion> ah 13:00:04 <Cursarion> sounds odd 13:01:03 <planetmaker> simply: we cannot change default vehicles without possibly breaking add-ons (NewGRFs) 13:01:35 <planetmaker> and a NewGRF can simply help you out of that situation. In principle 13:03:37 <Cursarion> how about something that'd allow purchasing obsolete vehicles? 13:03:57 <Cursarion> or is the copters being obsolete what causes it? 13:04:11 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean like the "vehicles never expire" switch? 13:04:17 <planetmaker> ^ :) 13:04:40 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 13:04:46 <Cursarion> ah, neat 13:04:49 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has quit [Quit: Grammar, the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit] 13:05:06 <Cursarion> thanks 13:05:12 <Cursarion> solves that one 13:06:03 <Cursarion> the second thing isn't a bug, but more like a suggestion... if you have a huge town with some stations already and are trying to put the catchments so that they cover everything, it can get kinda... err, hard 13:06:07 <Cursarion> like here: http://r.xrs.fi/i/catchment.png 13:06:51 <Cursarion> I'd suggest, that when building a new station, the catchment areas of existing stations would be shown 13:07:07 <Cursarion> would be heavenly 13:07:14 <Cursarion> even better if you next tell me it already exists 13:07:52 <Eddi|zuHause> everyone who ever tried to implement that gave up screaming once he realized that catchment areas didn't actually work like they thought they were 13:08:39 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:08:46 <planetmaker> catchment areas... which catchment area? For pickup? For delivery? With which settings? 13:09:30 <Cursarion> one showing all would be an improvement, too 13:10:08 <Cursarion> alternatively/additionally, clicking a station (looking at its details) would show its catchment area 13:11:08 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:13:11 <Cursarion> pretty much everything else in the game is very handy except the catchments 13:13:42 <Cursarion> I've probably spent like half of the duration of my OpenTTD marathon this week looking at the catchments with the station builder tool 13:15:08 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't change the fact that it's still the "house that creates mad people" in openttd's world 13:16:02 <Cursarion> so the catchment codes are a mess? 13:16:15 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:16:22 <Eddi|zuHause> not even the code, the whole concept 13:17:14 <planetmaker> the code is not overly complicated. But there's at least two concepts, one for pickup, one for delivery 13:17:24 <planetmaker> Which differ A LOT. That makes it difficult 13:17:34 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 13:18:37 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@irc.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:44 <Cursarion> I don't think I understand what makes it complicated. Isn't it so that if an industry falls within a catchment area of a station, the station can accept and supply whatever the industry does? 13:20:01 <Eddi|zuHause> no 13:20:11 <planetmaker> nope :) 13:20:43 <Cursarion> eh, lol, am I meaning to speak of coverage? 13:21:07 <Cursarion> yeah 13:21:11 <Cursarion> sorry, wrong terms 13:21:40 <planetmaker> cargo is delivered to the industry which accepts it and which is closest to the station sign. Other industries will go empty 13:21:46 <planetmaker> for instance, just one quirk there :) 13:22:12 <planetmaker> unless, the industrie stops to accept... then the 2nd closes gets cargo, too... etc... 13:22:20 <planetmaker> but that only works with newgrfs 13:23:10 <Eddi|zuHause> does that actually work? or does still the first industry get the cargo, even though it's not accepting anymore, and just drops it? 13:23:54 <Cursarion> so, err, how about showing the coverage areas of the stations? 13:24:02 <Cursarion> next to impossible too? 13:24:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm out here... :) 13:25:00 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, if you have industries stopping to accept cargo via CB, then further delivered cargo is given to another industry 13:25:36 <planetmaker> I recall once a map with PBI. We could actually deliver so much wood that we managed to supply at best 6 or 7 saw mills with a single station :) 13:25:38 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 13:25:56 <planetmaker> which were then *quite* a bit distant from the station 13:26:13 *** JungleCigar [~Zer0@CPE-120-149-117-144.bjzv1.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:26:18 <planetmaker> but some time ago. Not sure whether anything changed or not 13:26:42 <Eddi|zuHause> wasn't there once a bug wher that even went beyond the catchment area? 13:26:55 <planetmaker> that might have been still present then. dunno 13:28:38 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i must have been asleep this morning when i plugged in the cell phone charger, but only in the wall and not in the cell phone itself 13:28:48 <planetmaker> lol 13:34:40 <Cursarion> one more question, if I may... why can oil refineries only be built on the edges of the maps? 13:35:12 <planetmaker> just because. :) 13:35:19 <Cursarion> makes oil wells in the middle of a big map rather pointless o.o 13:35:38 <planetmaker> makes oil wells in the centre of a big map big profit makers ;) 13:36:36 <planetmaker> in ye ol' times, the map edges were all water. Oil rigs were thus tendentially at the map edges. Refineries were thus near the coast 13:37:00 <planetmaker> That restriction is also now fixed as NewGRFs can make use of and rely on it. In principle 13:37:18 <planetmaker> Use a NewGRF like OpenGFX+Industries to remove that limit 13:38:32 <planetmaker> that limit nowadays makes as much sense as that the last heli expires in ~2060 or so. But they are relicts from old times and hard to remove. 13:38:44 <planetmaker> Especially as you can find NewGRFs to work around both limiations 13:39:37 <planetmaker> harmless quirks for a game which allows to load savegames made with game versions created more than a decade ago :) 13:39:58 <planetmaker> and I'm not exagerating here 13:40:18 <Cursarion> yeah 13:40:31 <planetmaker> and still you got a point with those two points :) 13:40:38 <Cursarion> it's actually quite impressive how well the game works 13:40:46 <planetmaker> anyway... /me --> shopping 13:42:33 <Cursarion> have fun o/ 13:43:39 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 14:04:40 *** keoz_ [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 14:13:19 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:19:01 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 14:19:17 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:26:48 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:32:22 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:40:56 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:27 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@irc.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 14:43:55 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44:36 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:21 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 14:59:58 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 15:17:48 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:31 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:32 <Rubidium> planetmaker: s/more than a decade ago/two decades ago/ (or at least 2014-1994 = ~20 years) 15:24:06 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A08282.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25:10 <Eddi|zuHause> that were the times... when my 386SX25 was too weak to handle anything above a dozen vehicles, yet i still played the game with 80 trains (ca. 480 vehicles) at like 0.5fps 15:26:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i got like 10 years of in-game time that way :p 15:26:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never even got a diesel engine before switching to a faster computer 15:27:04 <Supercheese> A wild patch appeared https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=71021#p1128774 15:27:34 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 15:27:51 <Eddi|zuHause> now let's not add it to trunk just to make a point :p 15:27:54 <Rubidium> can't find the release date of Transport Tycoon (the original) :( 15:28:20 <Rubidium> seems to be before november since there's an article in some german thing, but beyond that nothing to pin down a more exact guestimate 15:28:24 <Rubidium> unless.. file dates? 15:28:52 <Rubidium> who has an original floppy? 15:28:56 <Supercheese> I always said "when I was four years old or so" 15:29:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know either. there was a demo version on a collection called "highscreen fun pack vol.2" 15:29:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a backup of my original, but i have no means to read that 15:29:51 <Eddi|zuHause> my original cd somehow got lost along with the box. i only have the world editor box 15:30:46 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, maybe if i dig out some old HDDs, they have a date... 15:31:07 <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't feel like it... 15:31:13 *** foxy1604 [foxy1604@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has joined #openttd 15:31:17 <foxy1604> hi!! 15:31:23 <foxy1604> first time here ^^ 15:31:39 <foxy1604> ...and with a "little question.." 15:33:00 <Eddi|zuHause> it must be so little i can't even see it. 15:33:13 <foxy1604> Does anyone know how i can set a goal on a server (accessible with only ssh) that when it hits year 2045 a new map get generated 15:33:30 <foxy1604> .. Sorry for the slow tiping.. ;) 15:33:52 <Eddi|zuHause> there is a setting for server restart year 15:34:01 <foxy1604> yeah?? :) 15:34:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i never used it 15:34:15 <foxy1604> i must have missed that.. >.<" 15:34:29 <Eddi|zuHause> but the wiki should know 15:34:36 <foxy1604> is it in the config file? :) 15:35:02 <foxy1604> lets give it a look ;) 15:38:02 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: never mind... did it the "wrong" way. Seems to be early november based on install (although tycoon is from end of october) 15:38:10 <foxy1604> Found it!! 15:38:16 <foxy1604> thanks!! 15:38:40 <foxy1604> any chance that there is a setting for a welcome message?? :3 15:39:48 <foxy1604> I would die for that.. ^^" 15:42:19 <foxy1604> nobody?? 15:42:25 <foxy1604> :'( 15:43:09 <Supercheese> Have you checked the wiki? 15:43:18 <Eddi|zuHause> you can try the "script" examples 15:43:21 <foxy1604> for the last couple of hours ;) 15:43:54 <Eddi|zuHause> "say" is the command to output a message 15:44:11 <Eddi|zuHause> put that in "scripts/on_client_join.scr" or somesuch 15:44:20 <foxy1604> okay!! 15:46:29 <foxy1604> okay.. i just found the name.. its called "on_client.scr" x3 15:46:55 <foxy1604> oops i mean "on_server_connect.scr" 15:54:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008e38.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:56:04 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A862.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:01:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.175.221] has joined #openttd 16:02:59 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 16:04:19 *** foxy1604 [foxy1604@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:05:36 *** Hazzard [~2668e0ee@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 16:11:43 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 16:25:57 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35:24 *** TheMask96- [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:33 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:05 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:43:01 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 16:44:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A862.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:34 *** trendynick [~trendynic@188.25.248.187] has joined #openttd 17:04:07 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 17:04:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:11:29 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:16:07 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:17:51 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:04 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 17:27:47 *** kais58_ is now known as kais58|AFK 17:33:09 *** foxy1604 [foxy1604@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has joined #openttd 17:34:40 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C396F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:36:55 *** foxy1604 [foxy1604@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has quit [] 17:38:56 <Wolf01> about to start a new OTTD game, suggestions? 17:39:30 <Wolf01> grfs, game scripts... 17:39:34 <planetmaker> preferences? :D 17:39:47 <Rubidium> disable build on slopes and autoslope 17:40:03 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like a horrible game :p 17:40:47 <Wolf01> not much 17:41:08 <frosch123> oh, yes, i tried to play a ttdp game some years ago, and rage quit after 5 minutes because of missing autorail and very limited build on slopes :) 17:41:16 <Wolf01> ahah 17:46:06 *** foxy1604 [foxy1604@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has joined #openttd 17:46:53 <Alberth> Wolf01: if you want a goal with industries, and longer game, try silicon valley, nocargoal is good for short games (although longer goals are possible too) 17:47:55 <planetmaker> have you played a game already with NUTS, Wolf01? If you're up to something experimental, include also YETI. Otherwise FIRS, economy 'heart of darkness' 17:48:03 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26731 /trunk/src/lang (5 files) (2014-08-15 17:47:51 UTC) 17:48:04 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:48:05 <DorpsGek> afrikaans - 6 changes by telanus 17:48:06 <DorpsGek> belarusian - 3 changes by KorneySan 17:48:07 <DorpsGek> catalan - 5 changes by juanjo 17:48:08 <DorpsGek> korean - 2 changes by telk5093 17:48:09 <DorpsGek> russian - 2 changes by Lone_Wolf 17:48:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never got feedback of CETS gameplay... if you can live with lack of graphics 17:48:27 <Wolf01> I'll try it 17:48:33 <Alberth> basic economies are fun too 17:48:34 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:49:02 <Alberth> supplies put a lot of stress on your network and number of trains you have to handle :) 17:49:31 <Eddi|zuHause> what is "heart of darkness" about? sounds like a metal band 17:49:59 <Wolf01> or a disney game 17:50:06 <Eddi|zuHause> (shows that i haven't played a game in ages) 17:51:38 <Wolf01> nice, I just selected 3 newgrfs and 2 gs -> 144MiB to download 17:51:50 <Alberth> weird map can also be fun 256x1024 or even longer :) 17:51:50 <Alberth> with 50% water :p 17:51:53 <planetmaker> :D 17:52:17 <planetmaker> indeed, such strange map side ratio can be great fun 17:52:20 <Wolf01> what did you put on YETI? 17:52:56 <Wolf01> ok, I think I'll play after dinner :P 17:53:17 <Eddi|zuHause> you should disable variety distribution for these off-square map sizes 17:55:08 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Darkness 17:55:14 *** foxy1604 [foxy1604@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:56:15 <planetmaker> oi, I didn't even know the title is *that* whitty. But befitting 17:57:09 <Eddi|zuHause> so.. africa, jungle, racism, ... 17:57:17 <planetmaker> the author must really be an educated man :) 17:57:27 <Eddi|zuHause> what does that have to do with FIRS again? :p 17:57:28 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 18:03:18 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58_ 18:05:37 *** Vinnie [~Vinnie@54681098.cm-12-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:10:45 <keoz> Eddi|zuHause: : it's one of FIRS economies 18:11:06 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i get that... 18:11:22 <Eddi|zuHause> the emphasis is on ABOUT 18:11:56 <keoz> It has something colonialistic. Basically, you export through ports to get a lot of manufactured stuff 18:25:59 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:06 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 18:37:35 *** Haube [~michi@ip25048c11.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 18:39:24 <Wolf01> let's start with in the worst mode possible: ships :D 18:39:50 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:40:06 <Wolf01> mmh, I scrambled some words, maybe __ln__ could fix it 18:40:32 <Eddi|zuHause> don't mention ships 18:43:03 <keoz> Yes, this is dangerous. 18:43:53 <Wolf01> uhm, do exists a cool 32bpp temperate landscape? and a town one? 18:44:13 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. 18:44:25 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure how to get it 18:44:38 <Eddi|zuHause> town is more problematic 18:44:45 <Wolf01> you mean the infra one? 18:45:02 <Eddi|zuHause> no 18:45:36 <Wolf01> yeah, my ships are already profitable :D 18:45:57 <Wolf01> and broken down :[ 18:50:55 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:41 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:34 *** qwebirc45713 [~oftc-webi@rrcs-50-84-71-146.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:55:41 <qwebirc45713> hello 18:56:05 <qwebirc45713> there's something really frustrating going on with my station 18:57:40 <qwebirc45713> http://i.imgur.com/utNluYZ.png 18:57:53 <qwebirc45713> why isn't the train going to the open station instead of straight? 18:58:11 *** Midnightmyth_ [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:57 <qwebirc45713> oh, I think I know why 18:58:59 <Wolf01> because it does seem to miss some tracks, with maglev is difficult to tell 18:59:04 <qwebirc45713> yeah, figured that 19:01:26 *** blathijs [matthijs@tika.stderr.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:02:15 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-26-5.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 19:03:41 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05:11 *** blathijs [matthijs@tika.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 19:06:32 <Wolf01> why do I have 11 passengers to any station when I only have 2 stations? 19:07:05 <Eddi|zuHause> that's when they appear before cargodist has made up its mind about routes you serve 19:07:22 <Eddi|zuHause> "to any station" basically means the old behaviour of getting off at the next stop 19:07:33 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:01 <Eddi|zuHause> which is totally annoying if you're actually starting with a feeder service 19:08:02 <Wolf01> but they want to go to the same station they are in, why then they won't go home instead? 19:08:43 <Eddi|zuHause> that's not how cargo works 19:15:59 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:16:39 <Wolf01> ok, loan fully repaid 19:17:09 <Eddi|zuHause> that's usually a mistake 19:19:09 <Wolf01> should I keep some of it? 19:19:47 <Eddi|zuHause> you generally should stay at max loan and invest everything in new routes 19:20:06 <Wolf01> I'm good with my 2 ferries 19:20:07 <Eddi|zuHause> until you're swimming in money and can't spend it fast enough anymore 19:22:17 <Wolf01> meh, the ai is really stupid... it built a logic train, I should disable the it 19:23:52 <Eddi|zuHause> there are 3 phases of AI's stupidity: 1) they are stupid, 2) the act stupid, 3) they take over the world 19:26:28 <Wolf01> I found more difficult starting with a bus route... 19:26:52 <Alberth> buses make much less money 19:29:09 <frosch123> [19:56] <planetmaker> oi, I didn't even know the title is *that* whitty. But befitting <- i googled it somewhen, when the andy's repetitive "Mistah Kurtzâhe dead." got annoying :) 19:31:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember ever hearing this phrase 19:36:19 <frosch123> hmm, ok, it is on the docs pags of firs 19:36:26 <frosch123> maybe i read that one too often then :p 19:37:12 <Alberth> :) 19:39:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i probably never read that page :p 19:39:33 <Eddi|zuHause> or not in the last 3 years 19:40:43 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:42:03 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26732 trunk/src/airport_gui.cpp (2014-08-15 19:41:57 UTC) 19:42:04 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6083]: do not reset the last selected airport or layout (unless it is really necessary) 19:54:36 *** TheIJ [~rita@188.226.187.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:09 *** TheIJ [~rita@188.226.187.103] has joined #openttd 20:01:51 <qwebirc45713> any mammoth trains in multiplayer? 20:03:12 <frosch123> ask the server owner 20:03:24 <frosch123> maximum train length is a gameplay setting defined by the server 20:06:39 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 20:12:33 *** Vinnie [~Vinnie@54681098.cm-12-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:56 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26733 /trunk/src (lang/english.txt strings.cpp) (2014-08-15 20:14:48 UTC) 20:14:57 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6086]: inconsistency in using spaces between number and unit in some strings 20:14:58 <DorpsGek> Try to follow the SI recommendation to use a non-breaking space between a number and its units (and prefix) 20:22:48 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:29 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:32:17 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:35:17 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 20:39:18 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:22 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 20:50:47 *** iCookRice [uid40091@id-40091.charlton.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:56:59 *** Haube [~michi@ip25048c11.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:57 <qwebirc45713> \ 21:04:22 <qwebirc45713> sorry 21:05:00 <qwebirc45713> sometimes, I post a message exactly 1 hour after the last message 21:05:55 <qwebirc45713> what if ships could crash into each other 21:12:43 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:18:51 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:22:46 <frosch123> night 21:22:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008e38.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:25:02 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 21:25:09 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:25:32 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.102.127] has joined #openttd 21:26:09 *** Sassafrass [~62cada06@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:28:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A862.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:33:12 <qwebirc45713> where is the non-faithful fork of openttd 21:35:44 <peter1138> non-faithful to what? 21:38:51 <Prof_Frink> The One True Game. TTDPatch. 21:40:36 <peter1138> ah, ottd then 21:49:21 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 21:51:13 <Eddi|zuHause> do torches come along with the forks, or do they have to be purchased separately? 21:52:00 <Taede> optional extra 22:15:55 *** Hazzard [~2668e0ee@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:15:56 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.96.121.24] has joined #openttd 22:16:05 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C396F.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:27:27 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 22:30:18 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:1591:ce3f:69b7:829] has quit [Quit: .] 22:30:23 *** qwebirc45713 [~oftc-webi@rrcs-50-84-71-146.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:34:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A862.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:28 <Wolf01> what's the point on not being able to transport machinery with ships? 22:39:20 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 22:46:37 <keoz> playing ECS ? 22:46:54 <Wolf01> no, YETI 22:47:10 <Wolf01> with FISH 22:47:33 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:53 *** Sassafrass [~62cada06@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:21 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:03:32 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [SeaMonkey 2.26.1/20140623143310]] 23:08:37 <ST2> oh well, only started testing YETI 30 minutes ago... still laughing about "YETI dudes" 23:08:38 <ST2> :D 23:09:34 <Wolf01> which are rubber ducks 23:09:50 <ST2> still discovering ^^ 23:09:56 <ST2> but loved the name :D 23:10:13 <Wolf01> at least with NUTS 23:10:57 <ST2> NUTS is how I get among "nut" files :D 23:22:05 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 23:23:39 *** Midnightmyth_ [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:31:12 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48:33 <Wolf01> 'night 23:48:40 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:55:41 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]