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00:00:15 <keoz> g'night 00:00:22 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 00:00:29 <amsu> look at that: http://prntscr.com/4duvtj 00:17:13 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.119.186] has joined #openttd 00:27:12 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.119.186] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC is updating to v1.9.4 Beta Build (2014/08/14-1) 64 Bit] 00:27:52 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.119.186] has joined #openttd 00:29:26 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:51 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 00:42:31 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:45:53 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:36 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:51:50 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 00:53:31 <amsu> <Supercheese> or, well, scenario -- no s 00:53:36 <amsu> ya esta! 00:54:23 <amsu> ready y have to get offf an enter again :P 00:54:25 <amsu> =) 00:57:57 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 00:58:51 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:59:09 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:03:58 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 01:14:15 *** amsu [~oftc-webi@181.46.75.80] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:16:14 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:08 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:43:08 <Eddi|zuHause> <MTsPony> does anyone know what the deal with is newgrf's that appear on bananas website yet they are unfindable in game? <-- it's possible to set the version requirement in such a way that no version of openttd can download the newgrf, then it can only be fetched by people who want to load a savegame/scenario or join a server that already uses this grf 01:43:48 <Eddi|zuHause> the "find missing grfs" button on savegames etc. ignores this version requirement 01:44:10 <Eddi|zuHause> but the general "check online content" buttons will adhere to it 01:45:17 <Eddi|zuHause> whereas the website does not know which openttd version you have, so it offers the download anyway 01:47:23 <Eddi|zuHause> also there are "paranoid" newgrf developers out there that think the game devs want to break their grfs at any possible moment, and thus only allow downloading with game versions they actually tested, and disallow with future versions 01:54:38 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:58:49 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 02:08:14 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 02:08:52 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [SeaMonkey 2.26.1/20140623143310]] 02:17:11 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@p57A089D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:24:18 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A0B657.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:36:41 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:37:21 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 02:51:05 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 03:08:12 *** visitor [~oftc-webi@c-98-218-212-95.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:09:20 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@p57A089D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:09:25 *** visitor [~oftc-webi@c-98-218-212-95.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:11:34 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A089D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 03:12:05 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A089D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:19:34 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:23:06 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:25:06 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 03:32:24 <MTsPony> figurer as much, thx eddi 03:32:29 <MTsPony> figured 04:03:07 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.119.186] has quit [Quit: (._. ) ( ._.) 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Available for several years 10:29:56 <planetmaker> so if he didn't disable it before, there's little reason to do now 10:30:03 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 10:30:45 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:31:33 <peter1138> Yes, that property predates 3rd rail vehicles anyway. 10:31:37 <V453000> isnt 3rd rail only in UKRS2? 10:31:52 <V453000> which might still be updated eventually by someone possibly? 10:31:56 <V453000> theoretically? 10:32:03 <peter1138> I don't remember any 3rd rail in UKRS, no 10:32:24 <lugo> lfor serveral years? as in before ukrs 2 was released? I wonder what his reasoning was/is to keep it then.. 10:33:06 <peter1138> Well, 3rd rail is a massive producer of sparks anyway. 10:33:25 <peter1138> Maybe in the wrong location but who cares 10:33:41 <V453000> :D 10:33:46 <V453000> rulizm 10:34:15 <planetmaker> lugo, it's available since OpenTTD 0.6 according to NewGRF wiki 10:34:23 <planetmaker> thus a whopping 8 years 10:34:32 <planetmaker> hm. 5 years 10:34:34 *** trendynick [~trendynic@188.25.248.187] has joined #openttd 10:34:37 <peter1138> Pretty sure it was before then. 10:35:05 <planetmaker> might even be. The wiki lists no OpenTTD versions prior to that as 'first introduced' version 10:36:16 <peter1138> V453000, rulizm... http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/static/ver20.4.b86.fb4261c/flash/videoPlayer.swf?videoUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fogrforum.ogaugerr.com%2FfileSendAction%2FfcType%2F0%2FfcOid%2F16212591148968254%2FfilePointer%2F16353414145509798%2Ffodoid%2F16353414145510592%2Fstream%2Ftrue%2FnoCache%2Ftrue%2Fspark-fun.mp4.flv&status=ACTIVE&autoPlayVideo=true&areaGaId=UA-1317970-1&watermarkUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fogrforum.ogaugerr.com%2FfileSendAction%2FfcType%2F11%2 10:36:23 <peter1138> oh wow that link :S 10:37:01 <V453000> is that artificially lighting itself up? :D 10:37:14 <peter1138> Yeah, some LEDs planted in the track :p 10:38:59 <peter1138> me o'clock :D 10:39:34 <V453000> grate 10:39:40 <V453000> implement it into openttd immediately 10:39:43 <V453000> or else 10:39:48 <V453000> community demands it 10:40:17 <Eddi|zuHause> [18.08.2014 12:39] <peter1138> me o'clock :D<-- not quite :p 10:40:41 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, 3rd rail sparks are pointless if they are not in the right place... 10:40:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i've disabled them in CETS 10:40:55 <peter1138> Not my fault your clock isn't NTP synced. 10:41:13 <Eddi|zuHause> it should be 10:42:33 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:18 <Eddi|zuHause> ntp.service - LSB: Network time protocol daemon (ntpd) 10:43:19 <Eddi|zuHause> Active: active (running) since Thu 2014-08-07 23:32:08 CEST; 1 weeks 3 days ago 10:44:40 <Eddi|zuHause> [12:39:00] <peter1138> me o'clock :D <-- maybe the internet is just slow :p 10:50:05 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 10:55:25 <peter1138> http://i.imgur.com/V4WOplH.jpg 10:56:19 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:42 *** tyteen4a03 [tyteen4a03@Daedalusx.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:59:24 *** tyteen4a03 [tyteen4a03@Daedalusx.net] has joined #openttd 11:01:40 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 11:09:21 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:28 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:19:07 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.119.186] has joined #openttd 11:25:26 <LordAro> dat field of view 11:32:06 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest1073 11:32:07 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 11:34:03 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:36:19 *** Guest1073 [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:49:06 *** lugo [~oftc-webi@000189e6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:12 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6D1BB.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:03:21 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:04:15 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:12:10 *** DerLoetkolben [~elmux@ip2504a71e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 12:13:32 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:24:17 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:36:05 <DerLoetkolben> im playing current stable openttd and it uses 71% of the cpu. Its an Arch Linux system i5 4670 + r9 270x + 8gb ram + Pulseaudio 12:36:40 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has joined #openttd 12:37:01 <V453000> yes 12:37:19 <V453000> need some other answer? :D 12:39:04 <DerLoetkolben> something like why a game from 19 and so on occupies 71% percent of the cpu and which part is responsible for that (= its a known bug) :D 12:40:13 <planetmaker> DerLoetkolben, with the right savegame you can easily eat 100% of the core(s) it runs on :) 12:40:37 <planetmaker> extremely likely it's not a bug, it's your savegame being big with many vehicles 12:41:01 <DerLoetkolben> planetmaker: i've started 5 Mins ago and the menu is slow as ... too 12:41:38 <planetmaker> what base graphics, what screen size what map size? 12:41:51 <planetmaker> what zoom level? 12:42:11 <V453000> 666 12:42:40 <DerLoetkolben> 2k x 2k base graphics (+2cc and some tram mod) 12:43:05 <__ln__> DerLoetkolben: could you have a 2k à 2k game in the "19 and so"? 12:43:35 <DerLoetkolben> __ln__ : I know :D 12:43:36 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44:18 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 12:44:27 <planetmaker> any ships? 12:44:32 <DerLoetkolben> nope 12:44:43 <planetmaker> and which base graphics? zbase? OpenGFX? TTD? NightGFX? 12:44:56 <DerLoetkolben> just opengfx 12:45:18 <planetmaker> does it get better when you zoom in? 12:45:42 <DerLoetkolben> its slow no matter if i zoom or not 12:45:56 <V453000> industry set? 12:46:12 <DerLoetkolben> nothing, just 2cc and some tram set 12:46:21 <planetmaker> DerLoetkolben, is it 100% of the total cpu or just 100% of one of the 4 cores? 12:46:26 <V453000> AI? :D 12:46:27 <__ln__> DerLoetkolben: for the record: a 256Ã256 map (as in TTD) is only 1.5% of the size of a 2kÃ2k map. 12:46:39 <planetmaker> (or however many your cpu has) 12:46:46 <DerLoetkolben> ps au returns 71 % 12:47:30 <planetmaker> ok, so that's 71% of the one core :) 12:47:58 <DerLoetkolben> worked like a charm last time i've checked (2 Months ago, hosted a 2kx2k multiplayer game) 12:48:13 <planetmaker> so, what did you change? 12:48:32 <V453000> guess cargodist shouldnt fuck up without vehicles 12:48:42 <V453000> PS is cargodist on 2nd core? 12:48:45 <V453000> from pathfinding? 12:48:47 <planetmaker> cargodist runs in a separate thread, though 12:49:06 <planetmaker> if it can 12:49:41 <DerLoetkolben> switched to OSS drivers ( Are working) installed PulseAudio and propably an OTTD update from the repository 12:50:22 <__ln__> try without sounds 12:50:32 <DerLoetkolben> with -s null ? 12:50:37 <__ln__> something like that, yes 12:52:06 <DerLoetkolben> same deal 12:54:24 <planetmaker> compare your old OpenTTD version on the new drivers with the previous performance of it on your 'old' drivers 12:54:40 <planetmaker> OpenTTD uses driver parts which are not used by a lot of software 12:54:58 <planetmaker> 'working' doesn't mean working well and performing well 12:55:34 <DerLoetkolben> planetmaker : Were can i find old versions 12:55:56 <planetmaker> same place where you find the current. Just append the URL by the version you search 12:56:44 <planetmaker> http://www.openttd.org/en/download-stable/1.4.1 12:56:55 <planetmaker> etc 12:59:28 <DerLoetkolben> 1.4.0 is also slow 13:00:11 <planetmaker> and when it wasn't before you changed your setup, then it's obviously something in your setup, but external to OpenTTD which tuned-down your system performance 13:01:40 <V453000> or your computer is just refusing to collaborate, happens to me often :P 13:01:51 <V453000> it is a living being with feelings after all 13:03:38 <planetmaker> also, 71% cpu cannot be really slower than 16% cpu or 85% cpu. OpenTTD runs at a constant speed of 33fps until the cpu core it runs on is at 100% 13:05:23 <V453000> -> you can easily get slow motion by obtaining 5000 trains :P 13:05:44 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.119.186] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC is updating to v1.9.4 Beta Build (2014/08/18) 64 Bit] 13:06:23 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.119.186] has joined #openttd 13:23:44 *** DerLoetkolben [~elmux@ip2504a71e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:36:37 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:38:52 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:41:12 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:34 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A089D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59:43 <keoz> Ok. GSText is definetely getting me crazy. 13:59:58 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:00:03 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:00:35 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:01:48 <planetmaker> keoz, we have plenty of space in the insanity asylum here ;) 14:01:58 <keoz> yes I guess 14:02:13 <keoz> no seriously, I should stop trying make this code work and go get a beer 14:06:15 <planetmaker> you could combine both, getting it to work and getting a beer :P 14:06:27 <keoz> that's what I was thinking to :p 14:06:46 <keoz> Actually, the best solution would be digging into GS API code 14:08:04 <keoz> Which I will *not*, considering the huge amount of real work I have to do ^^ 14:32:08 *** juzza1 [~juzza1@0001bead.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53:18 *** SettleR [~oftc-webi@h205n12-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #openttd 14:53:23 *** SettleR [~oftc-webi@h205n12-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [] 15:17:33 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:07 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:23:45 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 15:24:37 *** luaduck_ [~luaduck@host86-143-117-79.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:26:40 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:26:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:29:46 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:46 *** luaduck_ is now known as luaduck 15:34:25 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:36:30 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:55:49 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:57:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A687.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:00:55 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:03:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f746925.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:08:23 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dhcp-077-251-165-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:10:24 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:11:14 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:30 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:17:02 *** piscodig [~pig@0001c1d5.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:22:47 *** piscodig [~pig@0001c1d5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24:11 *** discopig [~pig@0001c1d5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:24:51 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:42:33 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 16:46:42 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A78B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:55:26 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:58 <frosch123> keoz: you are counting correctly, the ai api and zuu are not. the "real growth" script should not work 17:10:05 <frosch123> if you say it works, i have to check :p 17:10:46 <frosch123> and yay, finally a city gs with the goal to not create a excel spreadsheet :) 17:11:42 <frosch123> dbg: [script] english:14: error: Undefined command 'STRING14' <- lol 17:15:09 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:40 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 17:24:53 <Alberth> :D 17:27:45 <frosch123> omg, ottd has a global variable called "_current_data" 17:27:49 <frosch123> who can i beat? 17:28:02 <peter1138> ... 17:29:09 <LordAro> nice 17:29:14 <LordAro> what does it do? 17:29:30 <frosch123> it contains all strings from the gamescript 17:29:31 <peter1138> Holds current data? :D 17:30:50 <planetmaker> woot?! 17:30:55 <frosch123> it's certanily unique, noone else would use such a generic name for a global variable :) 17:30:55 <LordAro> lovely 17:31:23 <LordAro> was it TB? :p 17:31:37 <planetmaker> pssst! ;) 17:31:59 <frosch123> there is generally a high likelihood that it was someone dutch :) 17:32:16 <LordAro> :p 17:32:47 <LordAro> ruling out peter1138 then ;) 17:32:49 <Rubidium> there's a higher likelyhood it was an European (by birth) 17:33:10 <frosch123> does peter count as european? 17:33:18 * Rubidium wonders who with commit rights is not European by birth 17:34:26 <Rubidium> frosch123: if he was born in the light area of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_polar_stereographic_Caucasus_Urals_boundary.svg he is 17:45:39 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26750 /trunk/src/lang (belarusian.txt finnish.txt) (2014-08-18 17:45:31 UTC) 17:45:40 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:41 <DorpsGek> belarusian - 47 changes by KorneySan 17:45:42 <DorpsGek> finnish - 22 changes by jpx_ 17:45:53 <Alberth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28moon%29 <-- this europe has no openttd committers 17:46:45 <frosch123> are you sure? 17:47:00 <frosch123> i am not sure whether pm's job doesn't also involve moons 17:47:28 <frosch123> who would buy a planet without at least one moon? 17:48:46 <Alberth> he may have made it, but he doesn't live there, nor is he born there then, afaik 17:48:49 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 17:49:30 <frosch123> hmm, yeah, chicken egg issue 17:50:46 <planetmaker> :) 17:51:14 <planetmaker> Rubidium, I'm not born in Europe 17:51:33 <frosch123> boom, commit rights revoked 17:51:36 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:51:41 <planetmaker> :( 17:51:44 <frosch123> :) 17:52:06 <frosch123> planetmaker: canada? :) 17:52:15 <planetmaker> South-East Asia 17:53:30 * Rubidium wonders why chicken-egg is an issue 18:00:37 *** MTsPony is now known as MTsPonyZzZzZZ 18:05:32 <Alberth> it's just a minor bootstrapping problem 18:06:18 <Rubidium> why? birds are evolved from dinos, dinos already used eggs. So the egg was there before the chicken 18:07:03 <Rubidium> also... the egg exists before it's being fertilised and therefore could grow to become an chicken, so the egg exists before the chicken in that case too 18:11:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:35 <Wolf01> hi hi 18:11:49 <Alberth> o/ 18:17:16 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:52 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 18:25:30 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:44:50 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A089D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:48:10 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48:17 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:50:31 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 18:56:04 *** Guest825 [~Hazzard@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:12:21 *** ChoHag [~mking@91.103.132.227] has joined #openttd 19:12:40 <ChoHag> Is there a quick and easy way to enlarge the icons and fonts? 19:13:08 <Wolf01> fullscreen and low resolution 19:13:13 <ChoHag> My daughter loves the game but even on the TV with a huge resolution (which has other drawbacks) the ui widgets are tiny. 19:13:57 <FLHerne> ChoHag: OpenGFX+ BigGui 19:15:36 <FLHerne> ChoHag: For fonts, see https://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#My_User_Interface_is_too_small_to_read_.2F_My_font_is_unreadable_or_faulty 19:16:11 <ChoHag> Thanks I'll check it out when I'm let on her computer again. 19:17:04 <ChoHag> She's been unable to use it for a week or more. 19:18:19 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 19:18:58 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:39 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 19:29:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:40:34 <andythenorth> o/ 19:41:55 <planetmaker> ho andythenorth :) 19:42:30 <planetmaker> I think I found a few names for the Blue Danube ship selection 19:42:38 <planetmaker> put it in an issue at fish 19:49:07 <andythenorth> thanks :) 19:57:08 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:58:04 <planetmaker> andythenorth, if there's more needed, I'm sure I can find more which fit the common theme (if that's what you like). Feedback whether you like that direction is appreciated :) 19:59:01 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:59:18 <andythenorth> Iâll try some and weâll see 20:00:15 <planetmaker> I think the Johann Strauss class must be a ferry thing. Possibly hover, if there is any :) 20:00:33 <frosch123> night 20:00:36 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f746925.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:01:33 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:07 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 20:06:33 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A089D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: What? Oh... cu!] 20:07:25 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:40 <andythenorth> planetmaker: no hover in this one :) 20:08:45 <andythenorth> there is a big ferry, and a small one 20:08:48 <andythenorth> and a paddle steamer 20:09:03 <andythenorth> sounds paddle steamer ish 20:10:43 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:10:46 *** SkeedR [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:11 <planetmaker> indeed 20:11:21 *** SkeedR is now known as Guest1141 20:13:13 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:40 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 20:22:48 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:35:18 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 20:35:31 *** MTsPonyZzZzZZ is now known as MTsPony 20:35:51 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:28 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:38:30 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:52 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:4087:7cb8:9c08:e32a] has quit [Quit: .] 20:54:18 *** Guest1141 is now known as SkeedR 21:03:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D1BB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:18:09 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:36 *** NGC3982 is now known as Slartibartfast 21:22:41 <Wolf01> map editor time? 21:24:36 <Slartibartfast> Wesistance is useless! 21:27:22 <Prof_Frink> Take your poetry elsewhere. 21:27:29 *** Slartibartfast is now known as NGC3982 21:27:41 <NGC3982> Made me cry, you did. 21:29:11 *** SkeedR [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:33:10 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:37:12 <andythenorth> bye 21:37:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:45:43 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:14 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:48:31 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 21:55:46 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:06 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 22:07:27 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:09:22 <ChoHag> Does anyone run openttd on openbsd with fluidsynth? 22:09:49 <ChoHag> And if so, do you know what's the cause of instruments not stopping, even after openttd is quit? 22:11:52 <heffer> ChoHag: just enjoy the tunes 22:11:59 *** Jell-E [~Jell-E@095-096-159-211.static.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:12:00 <heffer> sorry, i have no idea ;) 22:12:07 <ChoHag> I would if they didn't overlap each other. 22:12:12 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 22:12:21 <ChoHag> Also I haven't installed the original tunes yet and I don't like the new ones... 22:13:25 <Jell-E> So I tried to build openttd from source, but it doesnt recognise I have the latest lzma-libs 22:13:32 <Jell-E> I'm on centos 6 22:13:44 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:08 <Jell-E> " checking liblzma... needs at least version 5.0, liblzma NOT enabled 22:15:33 <Jell-E> but /usr/lib/liblzma.so exists 22:15:44 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:18:04 <ChoHag> If you're building you'll need the development version of the library. 22:18:19 <ChoHag> Not just the dynamically linkable end-product. 22:20:38 *** Jell-E [~Jell-E@095-096-159-211.static.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20:52 *** Jell-E [~Jell-E@095-096-159-211.static.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:21:03 <Jell-E> sorry my client crashed 22:21:27 *** rambo [~jrambo@109-93-120-166.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #openttd 22:21:36 <Jell-E> does anybody know how to get ./configure to recognise lzma? 22:22:01 *** rambo is now known as Guest1151 22:23:26 <Eddi|zuHause> a) either you mixed up lzma and lzma2 (openttd needs the latter), or you are missing the -devel package 22:23:35 <Eddi|zuHause> +b) 22:24:08 <Jell-E> lets see if I have lzma2 22:24:48 <Jell-E> yum cant find a lzma2-devel package 22:25:38 <Jell-E> [jelle@jell-e lib]$ yum search lzma 22:26:07 <Jell-E> Sorry for the paste, I should've used pastebin 22:26:18 *** jrambo [~jrambo@178-223-4-254.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:26:51 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 22:27:46 <Jell-E> okay on this website it says xz implements lzma2, and I've installed the latest (5.0.5) xz from source to make sure I had the right version 22:28:24 <Jell-E> So it looks like ./configure fails to recognise my correctly installed library 22:31:16 <Wolf01> 'night 22:31:20 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:31:49 <Jell-E> I've tried building without lzma, but I want to load a scenario on a server, is there any way I could do this without lzma? 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