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yup, had that, too. well :) good and bad, can't decide :) 09:19:35 <peter1138> yeah, more acpi fixes too 09:19:44 <peter1138> and libcurl 09:19:54 <peter1138> those 2 apply to way more systems than the libmagic fix :S 09:21:04 <peter1138> one day i'll figure out puppet 09:24:44 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-46-133.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:36:12 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 09:36:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 09:43:32 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:47:49 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:58:17 *** InvokeStatic_ [~Invoke@c-24-11-157-247.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:19:30 *** InvokeStatic_ [~Invoke@c-24-11-157-247.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Bunchies are a right not a privilege] 10:20:48 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:20:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:24:06 *** 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XD 12:50:48 <V453000> perhaps it is because your trains are slowed at a junction, spending more time there, increasing the probability that it happens there 12:50:54 <FUZxxl> might be 13:00:06 <Eddi|zuHause> or maybe it's a perception bias. breakdowns on a junction cause more harm, so you notice them more often 13:04:30 <planetmaker> or both :) 13:15:36 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@145.15.244.35] has joined #openttd 13:20:38 <FUZxxl> I wonder why OpenTTD semaphores look so much like German H/V signals. Wasn't Sawyer british? 13:21:09 <__ln__> or scottish? 13:21:14 <FUZxxl> or that 13:21:25 <FUZxxl> either way, British semaphors look different 13:21:26 <__ln__> indeed, scottish. 13:21:54 <__ln__> also, he's still alive for all we know. therefore not "was". 13:22:12 <FUZxxl> true. 13:22:14 <__ln__> what about scottish semaphores? 13:22:26 <FUZxxl> I think they use the British ones 13:22:33 <FUZxxl> let me pull out some pictures 13:23:00 <FUZxxl> H/V semaphors: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Formsignale_Solarzellen_LEDs.jpg 13:23:15 <FUZxxl> H/V light signals: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Einfahrsignal_Friedrichsdorf_Hp2_Zs3v.jpg 13:23:58 <FUZxxl> british semaphor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rail-semaphore-signal-Dave-F.jpg 13:24:34 <Pikka> because the semaphores in OpenTTD with "original" graphics are probably the ones drawn by Michael Blunck for TTDPatch 13:24:42 <FUZxxl> Ah, I see. 13:24:42 <Pikka> TTD doesn't have semaphore signals at all 13:24:47 <FUZxxl> ok. 13:26:00 <FUZxxl> But actually, this is nice. I like H/V signals more than these british things. 13:26:06 <FUZxxl> Where's Blunck from? 13:26:12 <Pikka> Germany 13:26:30 <FUZxxl> okay. That makes sense. 13:27:04 <FUZxxl> I read that there is a way to use the original TTD graphics with OpenTTD. How? 13:28:09 <planetmaker> readme, chapter 4 :P 13:28:24 <FUZxxl> ok. 13:30:36 <FUZxxl> Ah, I see. 13:30:42 <FUZxxl> Didn't realize there is a FAQ. 13:50:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 13:50:41 <Pikka> doesn't it 13:50:46 <andythenorth> I think so 13:50:48 <andythenorth> but Iâm not sure 13:50:58 <Pikka> k 13:51:04 <andythenorth> what do you think? 13:51:17 <Pikka> I think it's turned out nice again 13:51:22 <andythenorth> yeah 13:51:24 <andythenorth> looks that way 13:51:31 * andythenorth can haz IH add-ons already 13:51:39 <Pikka> apparently 13:51:44 <andythenorth> shiny 13:51:52 <Pikka> and from someone who can code them, rather than just posting sprites inna thread 13:51:55 <Pikka> fancy 13:52:04 <andythenorth> indeed 13:52:16 <andythenorth> I think I won at reusable code 13:52:20 <andythenorth> two sets have been forked now 13:52:39 <andythenorth> will I have to do support? :o 13:56:11 <Pikka> yes, it is your duty 13:58:06 <andythenorth> probly easier to support 2 people who can code than answer player requests :P 13:58:12 <FUZxxl> Was there really no music in the original TTD? 13:58:59 <__ln__> where did you get that strange idea? 14:00:28 *** b_jonas [~x@russell2.math.bme.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:58 <andythenorth> Pikka: I have randomised tank engines. Should I remove them or not? 14:01:34 <Pikka> randomised how? flipped? 14:02:14 <Pikka> they're fine I think. I just leave things manually flippable these days, but that's not an option if you're going to have weird 3-part vehicles :) 14:02:30 <planetmaker> :) 14:05:06 <FUZxxl> __ln__: I imported the resource files from TTD into OpenTTD as described and still, no music. 14:05:38 <FUZxxl> ah, I'm stupid. 14:06:17 <FUZxxl> I only have the DOS version. That makes sense. 14:06:38 <Pikka> no, it doesn't make sense at all 14:06:50 <Pikka> better make sure you've selected the right base music 14:07:05 <FUZxxl> Pikka: the readme says: 14:07:11 <FUZxxl> he music from the DOS version as well as the original Transport Tycoon does 14:07:13 <FUZxxl> not work. 14:07:25 <Pikka> I see 14:07:43 <Pikka> better go "find" the windows version then. or just mp3s from somewhere :) 14:08:03 <andythenorth> smoke on the flipped engines is in wrong place 14:08:09 <andythenorth> spose I could fix that :P 14:08:25 <FUZxxl> Pikka: Yeah, let me "search" 14:08:59 <Eddi|zuHause> something was odd with the DOS music format. it was midi, but not quite, and nobody ever bothered to reverse engineer it 14:09:10 <FUZxxl> Wow. I didn't know that OpenTTD works on DOS, too. 14:09:43 <Eddi|zuHause> that has nothing to do with that 14:10:16 <FUZxxl> Eddi|zuHause: No, it hasn't. 14:10:38 <FUZxxl> I just read the rest of the readme including compilation options for DOS. I wonder if it works on Minix as well... 14:11:32 <Eddi|zuHause> only very few people ever tried compiling for DOS. i hear getting the right libraries is a pain, and network doesn't work (multiplayer, bananas) 14:12:25 <FUZxxl> ok 14:13:01 <planetmaker> allegedly it compiles 14:13:57 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 14:18:50 <FUZxxl> That's something, isn't it? 14:19:51 <planetmaker> some effort, yes :P 14:20:07 <FUZxxl> Does it work on Plan 9? 14:22:18 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@145.15.244.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:56 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 14:24:58 <Eddi|zuHause> from outer space? 14:25:21 <planetmaker> yes, it does work in outer space 14:25:27 <FUZxxl> Eddi|zuHause: From Bell Labs. 14:25:46 <Eddi|zuHause> don't they make telephones? 14:25:48 <FUZxxl> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_(Betriebssystem) 14:26:00 <FUZxxl> They also make operating systems, like Unix and Plan 9. 14:26:21 <FUZxxl> And programming languages like C and awk. 14:26:44 <FUZxxl> And they brought us the bastard which is AT&T assembly syntax for x86. 14:27:19 <Eddi|zuHause> what i learned about open source communities is: never underestimate the number of obscure platforms that people have tried things on 14:28:03 <FUZxxl> hehe 14:28:09 <andythenorth> anyone compiled for Risc OS? 14:28:19 <Eddi|zuHause> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Outer_Space 14:29:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i ever actually watched this movie. only seen references to it 14:29:24 <peter1138> there was a RISC OS port a long time ago 14:29:37 <peter1138> pre-c++ etc 14:30:48 <planetmaker> maybe we should add some more obscure build nodes to our CF ;) 14:31:05 <peter1138> IOS? 14:31:07 <peter1138> (Cisco) 14:31:37 <planetmaker> currently it's only 12 target platforms for releases 14:31:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose the majority of "ports" out there is just trying to get SDL to compile 14:32:03 <FUZxxl> hehe 14:32:25 <FUZxxl> the Plan 9 graphics API is actually pleasant to use. Porting SDL shouldn't be too difficult. 14:33:17 <planetmaker> yeah... well. iOS and Android seem to work, somewhat. FreeBSD and OpenBSD and Solaris work, too... makes it 17. Add some more from debian's CF... 14:34:18 <Eddi|zuHause> the challenge for iOS is mainly circumventing the apple store, and the challenge for android is getting a useful interface 14:35:12 <planetmaker> another 10 from debian 14:35:29 <planetmaker> the challenge for the interface holds true for any handheld OS really 14:36:32 <FUZxxl> I heard TTD was ported to Android some time ago. 14:36:44 <FUZxxl> How does Sawyer solve the issue of the limited GUI? 14:36:46 <planetmaker> hm, or 18. Depends on whether one looks at wheezy or sid :) 14:37:08 <planetmaker> FUZxxl, for all I heard: badly 14:37:37 <planetmaker> and also it's more a locomotion port 14:38:03 <FUZxxl> ok 14:38:29 <FUZxxl> Am I a whimp for wanting to turn off breakdowns? 14:38:46 <FUZxxl> It annoys me to no end that trains keep fucking up in the middle of my junctions. 14:39:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i have disabled breakdowns for years 14:39:29 <peter1138> i think most people do 14:39:34 <planetmaker> the switch is there for a reason. Everyone how s/he likes 14:39:41 <FUZxxl> ok. 14:40:11 <FUZxxl> also, is there a NewGRF that allows vehicles to auto-replace themselves with newer models? 14:40:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the problem is not that they break down, but that you have no sensible mitigation techniques 14:40:35 <FUZxxl> Eddi|zuHause: true. And breakdowns occur fairly often. 14:40:41 <Eddi|zuHause> there is no such newgrf, as this is a builtin feature 14:40:53 <planetmaker> FUZxxl, you look for autorenew, not autoreplace 14:41:08 <planetmaker> or vice versa. but yes 14:41:22 <michi_cc> FUZxxl: http://wiki.openttd.org/Replace_vehicles 14:41:22 <planetmaker> though not by themselves. It needs you to make that decision 14:41:29 <FUZxxl> Eddi|zuHause: apparently I'm too stupid to do that. 14:42:15 <FUZxxl> Now I understand how this works. 14:42:30 <FUZxxl> On another note, I have the feeling that monorail is a bit weird. 14:42:56 <FUZxxl> It appears were closely to the much more powerful maglev 14:43:08 <FUZxxl> And it's not really upgradeable to it. 14:57:23 <andythenorth> monorail is dubious 15:00:51 *** Guest877 [~jrambo@212.200.213.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:07 <Pikka> bonorail 15:01:16 <andythenorth> he :) 15:01:20 *** rambo [~jrambo@212-200-213-53.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #openttd 15:01:29 <andythenorth> it goes where the streets have no name 15:01:34 <andythenorth> with or without you 15:01:50 *** rambo is now known as Guest459 15:02:47 <Pikka> hmm @ forums 15:03:01 <Pikka> "I know more about your religious beliefs than you do because I looked it up on wikipedia" 15:03:37 <planetmaker> popcorn? 15:04:46 <Pikka> not to mention aantono insisting on posting about his problem in every single thread 15:05:21 <andythenorth> I think we have him in right place yet? 15:06:11 <planetmaker> hm, yeah 15:06:57 <andythenorth> transfers and station refits are borked htough 15:06:59 <andythenorth> though * 15:07:10 <andythenorth> I had an example in the game that was on nightly server 15:07:13 <andythenorth> might still be there 15:07:19 <andythenorth> totally screwed up behaviour 15:08:07 <planetmaker> hm... there might be some issue lurking. Many people seem to have issues there 15:09:37 <andythenorth> I found a run of issues 3-4 months ago, fonso fixed them 15:09:42 <andythenorth> seems we didnât raise FS though 15:10:03 <andythenorth> issues like the reservation taking place, but the refit failing because the vehicles werenât empty when the refit tried to run 15:10:09 <andythenorth> leaving the cargo marooned 15:13:47 <Eddi|zuHause> what's the deal with this aantono guy? he imposes his "problem" on other people who have totally unrelated problems... 15:13:56 *** johnrambo [~jrambo@212-200-213-53.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #openttd 15:16:44 <andythenorth> he posted first in the Squid and FIRS threads :) 15:16:45 <andythenorth> both 15:17:09 <andythenorth> despite that the train with the âbugâ belonged to Pikka 15:17:13 <andythenorth> so I blame pikka 15:18:06 <FUZxxl> Can someone suggest me some Germany themed NewGRFs? 15:19:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i think cargodist with refit orders needs to merge the graphs for different cargos, so each edge of the graph now has the cargos available to refit attached to it, but one combined capacity 15:20:04 *** Guest459 [~jrambo@212-200-213-53.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:33 <andythenorth> German RV set 15:20:36 <andythenorth> DB set 15:20:50 <andythenorth> NewShips 15:20:55 <andythenorth> German Stations 15:21:10 <andythenorth> or NewStations (canât remember which) 15:21:14 <Eddi|zuHause> *hust* https://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/LATEST/ 15:21:17 <planetmaker> FUZxxl, everything German usually is only badly findable when it comes to OpenTTD terms 15:21:38 <Pikka> sekret german TTD 15:21:55 <FUZxxl> :-( 15:22:21 <andythenorth> german forum? 15:22:54 <planetmaker> you'll have to search the interweb for it. No ingame downloads, no older versions of the NewGRFs (which you might need for older savegames), (very) infrequent updates 15:23:15 <planetmaker> in the German forums you will find links, yes 15:23:16 <FUZxxl> ok... 15:23:44 <planetmaker> Generally 'German' implies a German level of customer support :P 15:23:50 <planetmaker> by all means of cliché 15:24:39 <FUZxxl> hehe 15:24:44 * planetmaker is not necessarily an exception :P 15:25:02 <FUZxxl> I just want my H/V signals... 15:25:34 <planetmaker> change the driving side. And try again a new game 15:25:55 <planetmaker> maybe that helps. maybe not. dunno :) 15:26:12 <FUZxxl> pff... 15:27:39 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:27:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:27:49 <Alberth> hi hi 15:27:51 <planetmaker> o/ 15:28:00 <planetmaker> and actually.... good bye till tomorrow :) 15:28:06 <Alberth> that was short :) 15:28:17 <Alberth> have a nice evening 15:28:30 <planetmaker> sorry. But I would not want to miss out the dinner... ;) 15:28:45 <Alberth> :) 15:28:47 <planetmaker> and it's a lovely way to there and I got my camera with me :D 15:29:09 <Alberth> hopefully you're early enough to make a few pictures 15:35:48 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 15:38:06 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 15:38:10 <andythenorth> made any more bugs? 15:38:43 <Alberth> is income > 1,000,000 pound in 15 years a bug? 15:39:29 <FUZxxl> o.O zBase is huge. 15:40:30 <Alberth> nah, for a complete base set in full detail :) 15:41:31 <FUZxxl> okay. 15:42:10 <Alberth> try yeti :p 15:42:48 <Alberth> also 140MB for just an industry set of 10 or so buildings :) 15:43:43 <Pikka> don't forget to get pineapple trains while you're there 15:44:01 <Alberth> good point 15:44:03 <FUZxxl> wasn't yeti the set with the cool animated industried? 15:44:19 <FUZxxl> Pikka: Thank you for drawing the Berlin U-Bahn trains. 15:44:19 <Alberth> that's the yeti I am talking about 15:44:31 <Pikka> did I? 15:45:47 <FUZxxl> zBase looks so crisp. 15:45:54 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:46:08 <Alberth> way too crisp imho 15:46:12 <Pikka> whoops 15:46:22 <Pikka> what did you do to squidfish, andythenorth? 15:46:45 <andythenorth> ate it 15:46:48 <andythenorth> what did I do? 15:47:04 <Pikka> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=180759 15:47:08 <andythenorth> Alberth: Iron Horse is easy to make money with 15:47:11 <Pikka> this, apparently 15:47:14 <andythenorth> everything is fast and cheap 15:47:26 <Alberth> ok, then it's not a bug 15:47:32 <andythenorth> Pikka: I did that? Clever me. 15:47:49 <Pikka> I don't know 15:47:51 <Pikka> did you? 15:48:01 <andythenorth> doesnât look like that for me 15:48:14 <andythenorth> did you do that? o_O 15:48:18 <Pikka> it's inna squid thread 15:48:20 <Pikka> it's not me 15:48:24 <andythenorth> oic 15:48:29 <andythenorth> changed newgrfs on a running game 15:48:31 <andythenorth> 90% bet 15:50:57 <Eddi|zuHause> that would be my first guess as well 15:51:37 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:58:32 <andythenorth> looks like he had a version where two rosters were present, and now he has the version where the second one is removed temporarily 15:58:38 <andythenorth> maybe I didnât bump savegame version 15:59:03 <Eddi|zuHause> min compatible version? 15:59:57 <andythenorth> hmm 16:00:03 <andythenorth> itâs in my RC8 16:00:05 <andythenorth> which is odd 16:00:10 <andythenorth> it wasnât there last time I looked :P 16:00:26 <Alberth> it sneaked itself in :) 16:00:54 <Eddi|zuHause> committed stuff that wasn't meant to be committed? 16:04:21 <andythenorth> bad branch merge is my first guess 16:04:28 <andythenorth> I donât understand hg branch merges at all 16:04:37 <andythenorth> hmm that was after rc8 tag 16:07:14 <FUZxxl> Now I compiled the new OpenTTD (instead of using the Debian package) and music won't play anymore... 16:07:35 <andythenorth> and now the FISH build doesnât work either :P 16:07:41 * andythenorth back to work, fix crap later 16:07:45 <FUZxxl> Do I have to select to use timidity at compile time? 16:08:49 <Eddi|zuHause> FUZxxl: did configure complain about missing libraries? 16:08:55 <FUZxxl> Eddi|zuHause: no. 16:09:13 <FUZxxl> > checking libtimidity... not found 16:09:20 <FUZxxl> well, this happened. 16:09:23 <Eddi|zuHause> FUZxxl: does openttd -h list anything? 16:09:33 <Eddi|zuHause> FUZxxl: no, libtimidity is not the same as timidity 16:09:46 <Eddi|zuHause> timidity is run via extmidi 16:09:53 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:09:55 <FUZxxl> List of music drivers: 16:09:55 <FUZxxl> extmidi: External MIDI Driver 16:09:55 <FUZxxl> null: Null Music Driver 16:09:59 <Eddi|zuHause> libtimidity is some really outdated stuff 16:10:19 <FUZxxl> Do I have to set the music driver to extmidi in my openttd.cfg? 16:10:44 <Eddi|zuHause> it should be detected by default 16:10:50 <LordAro> wrt new ottdcoop paste service, is there an equivalent upload script? (the previous had "lodgeit.py") i always found it very useful... (yes, i could write my own, but effort..) 16:11:47 <Eddi|zuHause> extmidi = timidity <-- it says in my openttd.cfg 16:11:58 <Eddi|zuHause> but i haven't tried music in ages 16:12:20 <FUZxxl> It doesn't on my system 16:12:34 <Eddi|zuHause> did it detect the sound set? 16:12:36 <FUZxxl> under [misc] or under [music] 16:12:38 <FUZxxl> Eddi|zuHause: yes 16:14:12 <Eddi|zuHause> *mental note* get a useful soundfont before trying music again... 16:14:18 <Eddi|zuHause> this sounds terrible... 16:16:25 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i don't know what you can do now. there's a way to specify the command that extmidi uses on the command line 16:16:34 <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't remember the syntax 16:17:42 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-46-133.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:27:48 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:32:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01d126.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:38:28 <frosch123> hola 16:38:35 <andythenorth> lo frosch123 16:39:22 <Alberth> hi hi 16:42:12 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@5751c5c3.skybroadband.com] has quit [Quit: nickshanks] 16:42:45 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:07 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 16:47:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B929.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:57:58 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@5751c5c3.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 17:01:57 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:03:01 *** Pinkbeast [damerell@chiark.greenend.org.uk] has joined #openttd 17:07:31 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.121.89] has joined #openttd 17:10:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by alberth :: r26811 /trunk/src (6 files in 4 dirs) (2014-09-11 17:10:38 UTC) 17:10:46 <DorpsGek> -Fix[FS#6108]: Fixed spelling error in widget name. 17:18:43 <LordAro> http://sayakb.github.io/sticky-notes/pages/api/ would "parameters" be "<url>?data=text&language=text" or "<url>" with the POST data set as the json? it seems to me to be the latter, but i can't get it to work... 17:19:17 <frosch123> we already have a script to upload stuff 17:19:47 <LordAro> ...of course you do 17:19:50 <LordAro> can i has? 17:20:19 <frosch123> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/all?/all <- it has been posted like 3 times :p 17:21:35 <LordAro> well then 17:21:37 <LordAro> thanks :) 17:21:54 <frosch123> sorry for not answering your question btw :p 17:22:03 <LordAro> :p 17:22:37 <LordAro> purely out of interest, any idea where i was going wrong? https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pk6vrhpz5 17:23:30 *** rambo [~jrambo@212.200.213.53] has joined #openttd 17:24:04 *** rambo is now known as Guest472 17:24:14 *** DanMacK [~63f912e8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:27:24 <frosch123> the guys at #freerct might know :) 17:28:57 <LordAro> funny that :p 17:29:02 <DanMacK> hey all 17:29:07 <LordAro> also, that script isn't working ;) 17:29:30 <LordAro> returns the value correctly, but then complains - the grep statement isn't working correctly 17:29:53 *** johnrambo [~jrambo@212-200-213-53.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:10 * DanMacK slaps andythenorth around a bit with a large fishbot 17:31:28 <frosch123> he is searching for a cat or something 17:31:41 <DanMacK> ahhh 17:45:38 <Eddi|zuHause> you don't find a cat. a cat finds you 17:46:40 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26812 /trunk/src/lang (5 files) (2014-09-11 17:46:29 UTC) 17:46:41 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:46:42 <DorpsGek> afrikaans - 9 changes by telanus 17:46:43 <DorpsGek> polish - 30 changes by McZapkie 17:46:44 <DorpsGek> slovak - 4 changes by Milsa 17:46:45 <DorpsGek> slovenian - 1 changes by ntadej 17:46:46 <DorpsGek> spanish - 4 changes by SilverSurferZzZ 17:48:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:23 <Wolf01> hi 17:50:42 <Alberth> hi 17:51:49 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 18:00:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.181.109] has joined #openttd 18:03:33 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:10:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:11:21 *** johnrambo [~jrambo@212.200.213.53] has joined #openttd 18:14:04 *** Guest472 [~jrambo@212.200.213.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:19:35 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:24:38 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@5751c5c3.skybroadband.com] has quit [Quit: nickshanks] 18:26:36 *** DanMacK [~63f912e8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:33:51 <frosch123> LordAro: did you finish your script? :p 18:33:58 <LordAro> kinda 18:34:02 <LordAro> i got it working, at least 18:34:26 <frosch123> i need a new one, the other one does not work :p 18:35:17 <LordAro> told you ;) 18:35:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:05 <LordAro> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p1vlcxaec - filled with debug statements and badly printed output, but it works :) 18:36:11 <LordAro> feel free to improve it ;) 18:36:17 <LordAro> stdin only as yet 18:38:11 <frosch123> thanks :) 18:39:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 18:40:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:40:09 <andythenorth> also where is cat? 18:50:28 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05:47 <andythenorth> so no more Iron Horse bugs? 19:05:49 <andythenorth> o_O 19:06:43 <andythenorth> so umm 19:06:46 <andythenorth> random_switch 19:06:51 <andythenorth> is per vehicle 19:07:02 <andythenorth> oops 19:07:36 * andythenorth makes a fix 19:07:45 *** JGR [~JGR@host81-156-242-153.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:13:04 *** JGR_ [~JGR@host81-156-240-9.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:28 <andythenorth> fun times, this 3-part vehicle game 19:17:09 <andythenorth> solved that issue :P 19:18:38 <andythenorth> so does anything trigger re-randomising the vehicle random bits? 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