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00:05:45 *** trendynick [~trendynic@188.26.254.119] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCE0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:40 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14:57 *** pixar [~Mychomize@46-236-110-230.customer.t3.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:38 <Wolf01> 'night all 00:20:41 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:38:45 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 00:39:09 *** SHOTbyGUN [~shotbygun@213-186-253-83.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 00:44:06 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.22.25.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 00:58:08 *** MTs-iPad_ [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 01:01:42 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:25:45 *** TomyLobo [~foo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 01:48:47 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 02:01:04 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11:08 <Jinassi> yo devs and gods alike, what's the minimum specs on memory to run a server? if you ll asleep I might even grow some brain and check it myself 02:12:53 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:19:41 <argoneus> Jinassi: I think you'll be fine with ~128 MB of memory for ~10 players 02:19:58 <argoneus> the game is heavily optimized 02:20:00 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 02:23:47 *** MTs-iPad_ [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25:54 <Jinassi> thank you a lot 02:28:02 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:28:05 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 04:21:44 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-23-62.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:28:03 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 04:35:07 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5DE57066.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:59:49 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:45:54 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 05:49:20 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66A3A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:56:30 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-23-62.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:27:37 <planetmaker> Jinassi, the memory requirement does not depend on player number. It depends on map size mostly. And then on number of vehicles and amount of transported stuff and industries, houses, objects.... 06:28:09 <planetmaker> 128MByte is too little for our coop servers. Even 256MByte didn't suffice for 512^2 maps 06:29:07 <planetmaker> Jinassi, thus argoneus' answer could be called simplified and mis-leading at best 06:48:49 *** Sylf [~sylf@c-71-199-78-95.hsd1.ks.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:53:10 *** Sylf [~sylf@c-71-199-78-95.hsd1.ks.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 07:14:54 <Jinassi> Thank you...It was 3 am and just wanted to satisfy a know-it-all quickly 07:15:50 <Jinassi> on another note, players on reddit server1 went cahoots, tthey want their misshapen town to be the intro to new release...good giggle goes great with coffee 07:25:50 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:50a6:4ad:8ddc:8c31] has joined #openttd 07:29:07 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 07:47:04 <Rubidium_> planetmaker: it's about the *minimum* requirements... so probably 64 MB might even suffice for a 64x64 map 07:47:27 <Rubidium_> (without NewGRFs, vehicles, players, AIs, etc.) 07:48:40 <Rubidium_> but as I calculated recently, you need over 10 thousand TB for a 1048576x1048576 map (disregarding any other overflow issues) 07:48:46 <Jinassi> a player was interested in what it takes to run a server, 1 blade running minecraft, fileshare, 2 more games. wanted to add openttd too. Prolly would not end well as there's too low demand 07:49:13 <peter1138> If it can run Minecraft... 07:50:10 <Jinassi> this game is actually a good stress testing tool, just need the right amount and "breed" of players 07:50:17 <Jinassi> cough coop cough 07:51:02 <Rubidium_> ah well, there are 115 MP players right now 07:51:13 <Rubidium_> spread over some 300 servers 07:51:52 <Rubidium_> i.e. the vast majority is empty and doesn't use much resources 07:52:19 <Jinassi> if more players would be beneficial to the community, i could go beyond just Desura. IF 07:52:34 <Rubidium_> so I could essentially state that the median server uses an insignificant amount of CPU resources 07:54:54 <Rubidium_> Jinassi: when there were 100 servers, there were between 50 and 100 clients on average. The same relative amounts hold right now as well, so adding another 1000 active players around this time will just increase the number of servers by a factor of 10 too 07:57:52 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220149.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:58:34 <Jinassi> well put 07:59:51 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-74-111-111-176.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 08:04:06 <peter1138> Hmm, "Use loading indicators: Own company" in spectator mode... 08:05:07 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p4FE2144F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:06:42 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 08:06:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:08:30 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-74-111-111-176.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 08:24:25 <peter1138> V453000, join brown, it's not passworded :p 08:25:12 <V453000> xd thanks 08:25:14 <peter1138> Oh, it is now. 08:25:19 <peter1138> :( 08:25:25 <V453000> is :d 08:25:30 <V453000> can you remove it? :D 08:25:56 <peter1138> That would technically be naughty. 08:26:07 <V453000> xd 08:26:09 <V453000> technically 08:26:16 * Jinassi looks away 08:26:25 <V453000> 4 trains 3 RVs :P 08:26:34 <peter1138> Aye 08:26:38 <peter1138> I 08:26:39 <Jinassi> anyone in that comp? 08:26:45 <peter1138> I joined it to place a sign :p 08:26:47 <V453000> I could also ask Jinassi to remove one of the low-vehicle companies :P 08:27:08 <Jinassi> and i'd obey with no questions asked 08:27:25 <Jinassi> just so peeps can see the glory of a well thought network 08:27:28 <V453000> Jin I got a free day XD 08:27:39 <Jinassi> WHAT COMPANY 08:27:42 <V453000> idk brown 08:27:43 <peter1138> brown 08:27:44 <Jinassi> its gone! 08:27:51 <Jinassi> err, what number 08:27:53 <peter1138> It's not! 08:27:58 <peter1138> I'm in it, lol 08:28:03 <V453000> 15 08:28:04 <V453000> 666 08:28:12 <Jinassi> and you are not letting him in? how rude 08:28:32 <V453000> xD 08:28:41 <V453000> well technically it iznt 08:28:41 <peter1138> Oops 08:28:47 <peter1138> The password got reset 08:29:03 <V453000> tanks :D 08:29:13 <V453000> I go find a spot 08:30:16 <peter1138> I wish I could follow V's mouse cursor :p 08:37:39 <Alberth> no patch for that? 08:48:05 <V453000> :d 08:48:13 <Jinassi> bussiness managers that last joined, any comments on your company so far? 08:49:31 <peter1138> Funny how they keep calling orange yellow :p 08:54:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:56:58 <peter1138> Nice, 5 mil 08:57:14 <V453000> I MADE US RICH :D :P 08:57:44 <Jinassi> if this keeps up, we gonna need another server1 08:57:45 <peter1138> I feel the need to revive the company colours patch. 08:58:53 <Jinassi> or divert more ppl your way, there's a lot of peeps that want to learn more, so far majority(hopefully) went to openttdcoop 09:01:16 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@2601:9:1180:b9c:f16d:3c7a:3ff5:b6bc] has joined #openttd 09:04:47 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: irc2go] 09:11:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.190.62] has joined #openttd 09:13:29 *** TomyLobo [~foo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 09:21:52 *** moffi [~moffi@dsdf-4db538ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:29:55 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:49:53 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 10:13:22 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-162.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 10:27:32 <peter1138> Cannot live without copy & paste... le sigh. 10:27:37 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C362F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:29:10 <peter1138> "Roads can be connected only head - by head (it would save map memory slots and decrease number of sprites)." I wonder what the even means. 10:29:56 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 10:30:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i think he meant something like crossings can't have two types of road 10:44:28 *** Brumi [~quassel@78.131.41.191] has joined #openttd 11:04:29 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host156-13-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:04:56 <Wolf01> hello o/ 11:06:03 <Alberth> moin 11:10:32 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:28:35 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f746ad0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:28:40 <Alberth> o/ 11:28:47 <Wolf01> o/ 11:32:28 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@host-78-149-146-184.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 11:33:09 <__ln__> can someone recommend a replacement for the linksys wrt54gl for the 2010's? 11:33:28 *** TomyLobo [~foo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:51 <Eddi|zuHause> around here, everybody and their mom have a fritzbox 11:35:10 <insulfrog> o_0 11:35:45 <__ln__> yeah, i've heard about fritz!box 11:36:30 <argoneus> good morning train friends 11:36:38 <insulfrog> hi btw 11:40:43 *** moffi [~moffi@dsdf-4db538ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:41:21 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-114-14.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:47:06 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:47:53 *** moffi [~moffi@dsdf-4db538ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:06 *** moffi2 [~moffi@185.66.193.8] has joined #openttd 12:03:48 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 12:03:52 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C362F.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 12:04:08 *** moffi [~moffi@dsdf-4db538ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:14:44 *** moffi [~moffi@dsdf-4db538ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:21:09 *** moffi2 [~moffi@185.66.193.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:41 *** headbang [~hasd@mrminecraft.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:22:47 *** headbang is now known as Headbang 12:51:46 <peter1138> Moo 12:52:48 <Headbang> m00 12:56:05 <supermop> yo 12:59:52 *** moffi2 [~moffi@185.66.193.8] has joined #openttd 13:06:08 *** moffi [~moffi@dsdf-4db538ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:21:18 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-191-54.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:35:17 *** Pol [~quassel@h220149.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:40:07 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220149.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:40:49 *** Brumi [~quassel@78.131.41.191] has quit [] 13:41:40 <Headbang> for any dutch guys who also like small trains 13:41:55 <Headbang> there is an auction these five days 13:42:08 <Headbang> which sells train stuff 13:42:41 <Headbang> on veiling.catawiki.nl (modeltreinen) 13:45:09 <Rubidium_> those are way too small to do any software development on 13:45:47 <Headbang> i wouldnt have a clue about that, but i know that those train stuff canbe expensive so an action could be a nice deal 13:45:51 <Headbang> :) 13:49:37 *** moffi2 [~moffi@185.66.193.8] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 13:51:47 <Headbang> ive got my openttd server running on lubuntu with opengfx, if clients install zbase is that enough? or should it be on the server as well? 13:52:34 <Alberth> everybody can install any base set he/she likes 13:52:51 <Headbang> ok, thanks 13:55:31 <argoneus> planetmaker: well I'm not sure why my answer was misleading. The last time I asked what specs I need to run a server, you directed me to the wiki page, that says 32 MB minimum, 128 MB recommended 13:55:37 * argoneus shrugs 13:55:43 <Headbang> this is making me rethink of buying a tablet :) playing everywhere 13:57:05 <Alberth> argoneus: what's wrong with that? 13:57:43 <argoneus> Alberth: that when someone yesterday asked how much memory is needed to run a server, and I said "like 128 MB is fine", my answer was called "misleading" 13:59:16 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 13:59:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:59:27 <andythenorth> any cat 13:59:28 <andythenorth> ? 13:59:35 <Rubidium_> argoneus: wikis aren't really that right all the times 13:59:51 <Rubidium_> for example: about half of the trains the company I work for uses are said to be "out of service" according to wikipedia... 14:00:18 <argoneus> ok? 14:02:17 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@2601:9:1180:b9c:f16d:3c7a:3ff5:b6bc] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:02:22 <Rubidium_> on a side note... you need at least 40 MB for the map (at 4096x4096) 14:02:27 <Headbang> to be fair, as im new again (tried openttd years ago) but now it seems a forest of old and new info 14:02:36 <Headbang> most of which is absolete 14:02:44 *** dxtr [22c58aa9@cubox.dxtr.ninja] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:02:55 <Rubidium_> *if* you want to save that, and you do because of joining clients, you need at least double + space required for compression 14:04:33 <Rubidium_> which is, IIRC, something in the order of 16 MiB for the default compression level (but 300+ MiB for the highest) 14:05:05 <Wolf01> uhm, there's a news on the newspaper which tells what happened tomorrow 14:05:06 <Rubidium_> ofcourse, with a 64x64 map you require a much smaller amount of memory 14:05:28 <Rubidium_> Wolf01: but it already is tomorrow in New Zealand 14:05:36 <Wolf01> but not here :D 14:06:13 *** dxtr [52062b91@cubox.dxtr.ninja] has joined #openttd 14:06:26 <Rubidium_> yeah, that's the sad thing about news in New Zealand... they often get yesterday's news 14:06:27 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 14:06:30 <Wolf01> misleading titles, the title use past tense, when the article talks about previsions 14:06:41 <insulfrog> also, you got to think on how many players are you going to have on your server as well and how big each trnsport network is going to be - it all adds up :) 14:06:42 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 14:07:23 <insulfrog> *transport 14:10:01 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 14:48:17 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C362F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:56:12 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:38 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 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[~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32:33 *** MTs-iPad_ [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 15:32:33 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41:55 * andythenorth ponders 15:42:05 * Taede wanders 15:42:13 <andythenorth> might drop the âQuadruple production if supplies deliveredâ stuff from FIRS industry windows 16:05:06 *** MTs-iPad_ [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:15:54 <Eddi|zuHause> what should that achieve? 16:16:38 <andythenorth> two things 16:16:54 <andythenorth> I want to get away from double / quadruple 16:17:13 <andythenorth> in favour of other amounts (or even player configurable) :o 16:17:36 <andythenorth> also - side benefit - if I drop all industry window text, partial compiles become possible 16:17:53 <andythenorth> the industry window text is mostly cruft imo 16:19:01 <frosch123> he, i thought earlier that stringids are actually an easier part of the partial compilation :p 16:19:27 <andythenorth> theyâre random in nml 16:19:37 <andythenorth> aiui 16:19:41 <andythenorth> so umm 16:19:48 <andythenorth> good luck with linking those :P 16:19:51 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the problem is that all stringids must be known, even those that are not part of the to-be-compiled industry 16:19:53 <frosch123> parsing the lang files takes no time (< 0.5s for all) 16:20:16 <frosch123> you only need to know which are D0 and which are DC or something other silly 16:20:17 <Eddi|zuHause> not every entry in the lang file gets a stringid 16:20:30 <Eddi|zuHause> and not every stringid has an entry in the lang file 16:20:51 <Eddi|zuHause> nmlc can compose strings on the fly 16:21:17 <frosch123> and what parts of that are used by andy? 16:21:20 <Eddi|zuHause> then the composite gets a stringid, and only the components are in the lang file, which get no stringid 16:22:05 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: like composing "string(STR_TWO_LINES, string(STR_1), str(STR_2))" 16:22:25 <frosch123> i know, i saw cets earlier today 16:22:40 <Eddi|zuHause> where STR_TWO_LINES is "{STRING}{}{STRING}" 16:22:56 <andythenorth> in principle it doesnât seem like a hard problem 16:23:03 <andythenorth> but solving it correctly... 16:23:10 * andythenorth is not a good enough programmer :| 16:23:22 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: CETS doesn't do composite strings like that 16:23:38 <Eddi|zuHause> which makes it easier 16:23:40 <frosch123> andythenorth: anyway, i think i can speed up the nml part of firs by factor 2 in the next week 16:24:11 <andythenorth> :) 16:24:19 <andythenorth> FIRS could drop the composite strings 16:24:30 <andythenorth> or I could pre-compute them 16:24:46 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you must move the compositing to the header files 16:25:01 <andythenorth> the header files we donât have yetâŠ? 16:25:05 <Eddi|zuHause> but i think we discussed that already 16:25:39 <andythenorth> I think I got 99% working code for it 16:25:48 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: well making a header file is easy 16:25:51 <andythenorth> but it would have relied on a rely ugly set of splits on nfo 16:25:56 <andythenorth> and I didnât trust it 16:26:17 <andythenorth> and every partial compile still had to render at least a stub for every industry in FIRS 16:26:22 <andythenorth> with the cbs 16:26:46 <andythenorth> it was much faster, but the amount of string (fragile, complex, ugly) didnât seem worth it 16:27:23 <Eddi|zuHause> well, CETS does this by a large switch that uses every string (that needs an ID) and every global callback 16:28:21 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 16:28:41 <andythenorth> frosch123: factor 2 is nothing to complain about :) 16:35:03 <Headbang> hmm i did a content select 360 and content download on the console, it downloaded the file but didnt extract it? even after extracting i cant load it on the console? 16:35:23 <Taede> did you do a rescan? 16:35:40 <Taede> iirc its not supposed to extract, it uses the tar file directly 16:36:07 <Headbang> ok , a rescan 16:37:00 <Headbang> whats the command for that then? i did restart the deamon but that did not help either 16:37:07 <Headbang> resetengines? 16:37:55 <Zuu> not resetengines 16:38:01 <Zuu> more like rescanais or similar 16:38:09 <Taede> rescannewgrf 16:38:32 <Taede> or rescanai or rescangame 16:38:41 <Taede> depending on what the file inquestion is 16:39:01 <Headbang> if i cd into the directory and do ls it doesntshow me the file on the console but its there 16:39:10 <Headbang> Europe__Cities-2.tar 16:39:26 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 16:40:14 <frosch123> tar scenarios are different 16:40:20 <frosch123> try to look into the main scenari folder 16:40:28 <frosch123> not in the actual disc folder 16:40:41 <frosch123> ottd does some magic mapping of files to other locations 16:40:58 <Headbang> Europe v2.scn Europe v2.scn.id Europe v2.scn.title 16:41:34 <Zuu> I don't think you need to unpack the tars 16:41:43 <Headbang> ok 16:41:52 <Headbang> i left the tar there 16:42:05 <Zuu> OpenTTD knows how to look inside tars. 16:43:10 <Headbang> ok 16:45:02 <Headbang> hmm im still clueless then 16:48:46 <Headbang> or do have to load the file first then save it so i can load it again 16:50:57 <Headbang> that did the trick 16:52:43 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:50 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@2601:9:1180:b9c:f16d:3c7a:3ff5:b6bc] has joined #openttd 17:22:35 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.107.15] has joined #openttd 17:23:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:46:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27052 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2014-11-01 17:46:13 UTC) 17:46:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:46:24 <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 24 changes 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Duh? 21:23:16 <peter1138> Ooh 60 long. 21:24:19 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 21:26:01 <V453000> peter1138: ? 21:26:23 <peter1138> Oh the reddit game heh 21:27:24 <V453000> idk, built stuff but then had to go 21:32:39 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:50a6:4ad:8ddc:8c31] has quit [Quit: .] 21:36:27 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:43:32 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p4FE2144F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:00 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:50:11 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:53:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.190.62] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:54:55 <SpComb> oh srs, play-ttd.com has multiplayer support now 21:56:17 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 21:56:28 *** jpierre03_ [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:48 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.107.15] has joined #openttd 22:06:40 *** jpierre03_ [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has joined #openttd 22:28:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38:21 <FLHerne> Does it also still have the original graphics and a complete lack of visible license terms? 22:43:53 <FLHerne> Yep 22:50:06 <Headbang> if you keep getting the message connection seems interrupted for x seconds, the server running the daemon is to slow to keep up? 22:59:07 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:59:54 <FLHerne> IIRC the server's allowed to lag, are you sure the connection is actually ok? 23:00:38 <glx> server can be as slow as it wants 23:00:44 <FLHerne> My RasPi had all kinds of issues with the Ethernet(-over-USB) when trying to run CPU-intensive stuff, but that's unlikely to apply to anything more typical 23:00:51 <glx> it gives the heartbeat 23:00:59 <Headbang> well its all the time 23:01:03 <Headbang> and its on a local network 23:01:14 <Headbang> but ill admit its an old server pc 23:01:37 <glx> it's always best to use the slower machine as server 23:01:38 <Headbang> and im running a 2056x2056 map 23:01:53 <Headbang> yeah... :) 23:01:59 <Headbang> was hoping to make it off some use 23:03:00 <FLHerne> Have you tried just pinging the server continuously to see if there's actually a gap? 23:03:08 <FLHerne> Wifi interference or something 23:04:03 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:05:20 <FLHerne> Sometimes this lump drops connection for 20s or so switching between APs at inconvenient moments 23:05:31 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:05:56 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C362F.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 23:08:27 <Headbang> its cable 23:08:45 <Headbang> well its almost every minute it says it now 23:09:31 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:12:04 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 23:12:44 <glx> I'd say not enough RAM 23:12:53 <glx> so server needs to swap 23:13:40 <Headbang> hmm now it dropped it all together 23:13:59 <Headbang> but i was also dropped out of ssh 23:14:51 <Headbang> its got 2g memor 23:14:54 <Headbang> memory 23:15:06 <Headbang> no X only the deamon 23:24:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:24:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 23:26:44 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-114-14.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:49 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:30:27 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@host-78-149-146-184.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby] 23:35:03 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-162.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:36:52 <frosch123> night 23:36:55 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f746ad0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:49:53 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!]