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00:04:17 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:04:52 <Wolf01> 'night 00:04:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:11:39 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed44:5b01:dcf7:8292:8146:2498] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:39:41 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 01:15:21 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:27:12 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed44:5b01:dcf7:8292:8146:2498] has joined #openttd 01:29:25 *** Jinassi [~jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:30:01 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@D97BA869.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 01:34:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A194EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35:21 *** Jinassi [~jinassi@176-76-71-86.ipv4.mobile.tusmobil.si] has joined #openttd 01:36:47 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97BA869.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 01:38:35 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 01:41:39 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 01:55:17 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed44:5b01:dcf7:8292:8146:2498] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:29 *** Buntunub [~quassel@c-24-126-85-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10:29 *** Haube [~Michi@31.7.56.243] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:12:14 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@179.178.240.138] has joined #openttd 02:19:02 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.178.240.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:19:04 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 02:32:55 *** mek42 [~chatzilla@cpe-74-79-37-40.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:33:57 <mek42> Hope everyone is having a good year so far! Speaking of beginnings, which newgrf do people like using for early start games (early 1800s)? 02:36:36 <Supercheese> Sailing Ships, UKRS or NARS 02:36:45 <Supercheese> SQUID, HEQS 02:36:50 <Supercheese> eGRVTS for the horses 02:37:23 <Jinassi> redFISH 02:37:25 <Supercheese> there's also an Early Rail set for the very first experimental steam locomotives, but it has a few issues 02:37:57 <mgpl> same, sailing ships, eGRVTS for horses, UKRS. i start from 1830 02:39:21 <mek42> thanks - do you have any preference for industry sets? 02:40:15 <mgpl> i use FIRS 02:45:03 <Supercheese> FIRS is great, ECS works too and there's even PBI 02:45:26 <Supercheese> and, of course, YETI 02:57:49 <Sylf> I like OpenGFX+ Industries too 03:21:54 <mek42> i'll have to research these other choices - giving it a whirl after some time away and have only used FIRS / ECS in the past. I like the offshore fishing in FIRS 03:35:46 <Supercheese> ECS has similar fishing grounds, no> 03:35:48 <Supercheese> ?* 03:37:29 <ST2> and why not add a cookie factory (with the obvious cookies as demand for town)? 03:38:49 <ST2> right, cookies factory already exists ^^ 03:39:03 <ST2> so, already done xD 03:43:56 *** Zeetherdroid [~AndChat68@99-38-92-151.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 03:43:57 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:46:55 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:12:37 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:24:11 *** gelignite_ [~gelignite@i528C3F30.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:27:19 *** gelignite_ [~gelignite@i528C3F30.versanet.de] has quit [] 04:28:02 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:30:25 <mek42> I did not see fishing grounds in early start ECS 04:31:28 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387AC92.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:47:00 *** Jinassi [~jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:52:56 *** Banjo [~Banjo@46.108.39.198] has joined #openttd 04:54:36 <Supercheese> http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/ECS_Agricultural_Vector._Fishing_grounds 04:54:43 *** Banjo [~Banjo@46.108.39.198] has quit [autokilled: This host is in breach of network policy. Contact support@oftc.net with questions. (2015-01-02 04:54:43)] 04:54:44 <Supercheese> The ag. vector has them apparently 05:07:57 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.178.240.138] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC - Brings new hope for the IRC longevity. 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Mostly because many of the high speed infrastructure is built with low axle weights, so there isn't much experience with such weights 13:47:23 <Rubidium> so about 3 to 4 days would be more reasonable if there train were to run at that speed all the way 13:48:10 <Rubidium> unless they're going for maglev type tracks, but that's extremely expensive 13:48:59 <Jinassi> THough if this does bear fruit, most of the East and SouthEast countries, which have low GBP, could profit from this. And they'll not be bound by water and air routes. 13:49:21 <Rubidium> also you want to have at least two independent routes so if/when e.g. Russia or India gets mad there is a way around it 14:01:40 <peter1138> Still faster than shipping. 14:17:44 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:14 *** Bolli [~B0ll1@87.112.34.199] has joined #openttd 14:27:16 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-41-102.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:28:33 <Bolli> Hi, I wonder if somebody can have a look at something for me? 14:28:33 <Bolli> I'm having some strange loading/unloading behaviour 14:29:09 <Jinassi> with passengers? 14:29:56 <Bolli> no, oil 14:30:06 <Alberth> /me fails to deduce a solution from the problem description 14:30:24 <Bolli> The figure waiting at the station seems to not be responding to trains loading/unloading 14:30:34 <Bolli> Savegame: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13385764/ottd/The%20Party%2C%204th%20Feb%201982.sav 14:31:13 <Bolli> Station is Nikolayevesk Woods (far right hand side of map) 14:33:20 <Wolf01> I miss 2 newgrfs 14:34:03 <Bolli> which ones? 14:34:16 <Wolf01> canstn and marico 14:35:30 <Alberth> I think cargo-dist doesn't keep exact count for the destinations 14:35:39 <Alberth> I read that somewhere in the forum 14:37:38 <Bolli> Does that mean that the total count will be wrong? 14:37:47 <Bolli> oh wait 14:37:51 <Bolli> I've got it 14:38:12 <Bolli> Cargodist has an option to show whats planned 14:38:27 <Bolli> It seems to have clicked onto that, rather than whats waiting 14:39:06 <Bolli> Thanks anyway :) 14:39:13 <Alberth> ah, that once confused me too for a long time :) 14:40:05 <Alberth> afaik the amount you load for a destination is not always exactly the amount you get at the destination 14:40:18 <Alberth> the total sum is still correct 14:40:32 <Wolf01> updating content... meh life is giving me only NUTS 14:41:11 <Alberth> it has to do with merging the same cargoes into a cargo-packet for better handling, but it looses the exact split 14:41:21 <Alberth> but on average it will work out 14:41:39 <Wolf01> and I really need to clean up the grfs folder and start a new game... 1055 newgrfs 14:41:48 <Alberth> :o 14:42:30 <Jinassi> is that with newest updates or do the old ones get overwritten? 14:43:09 <Alberth> I have around 750. It happens when you test submitted save games :) 14:43:18 <Alberth> Jinassi: nothing is overwritten afaik 14:43:24 <Wolf01> I think it's the updates... the entire OTTD folder weights 3.21GB 14:43:42 <Alberth> a few nutsy grfs are very heavy :) 14:43:55 <Alberth> as are yetis :p 14:44:12 <Wolf01> 5 YETI, 6 NUTS... 14:44:15 <Jinassi> Thanks Alberth, this game is more versatile than Swiss army knife 14:44:33 <__ln___> *weighs 14:45:08 <Wolf01> and 3 pineapples 14:45:16 <Jinassi> *Swiss military. anything with -Swiss army- is a cheap copycat 14:46:21 <Alberth> strip the extra zoom out :p 14:46:49 <V453000> (: 14:47:15 <V453000> I have 75 NUTS and 10 YETIs :P 14:47:17 <V453000> big nuf 14:47:23 <Wolf01> lol 14:49:44 <argoneus> that's a lot of nuts 14:50:04 <Alberth> winter is coming :) 14:50:53 <Alberth> Bolli: a freighter running oil? :) 14:52:12 <Bolli> Yeah but, no but 14:58:21 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 15:02:03 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3F30.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:04:01 <Wolf01> as I don't have no time, I shouldn't do something useless today, like not leaving in place my car's wasted battery 15:06:33 *** geowgie [~geowgie@host81-154-21-163.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:07:13 *** Stagurn [~Meh@26.81-166-171.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:46 <Eddi|zuHause> warning: too many negatives 15:08:27 <Wolf01> I'm trying to get __ln___ busy :) 15:09:03 <Alberth> you'd have to make moar pselling errors than 15:09:52 <Wolf01> /me is going to purchase a new battery 15:10:31 <LordAro> what is it with you people and you're broken /me's? :L 15:29:26 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:28 <Wolf01> stuck CTRL key 15:50:18 *** Haube [~Michi@ip25048c11.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 16:00:59 *** Haube1 [~Michi@109.201.143.220] has joined #openttd 16:06:52 *** Haube [~Michi@ip25048c11.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:09:29 <argoneus> 16:11:29 <LordAro> 16:11:37 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/awbDDWR_460s.jpg <- seems like ottd music O_o 16:11:54 <Wolf01> *(O)TT(D) 16:13:39 <Jinassi> onestop is the word being overwritten 16:13:47 <Wolf01> yes 16:14:56 <Wolf01> there are 3 midis, town seem theme hospital's, fluorish tt's, onestop it reminds me something but I can't tell what 16:31:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:43 <Wolf01> o/ 16:33:42 <andythenorth> o/ 16:34:04 <Wolf01> andy, should I purchase it? I missed the old rc excavator :( http://shop.lego.com/en-IT/Remote-Controlled-VOLVO-L350F-Wheel-Loader-42030?fromListing=listing 16:36:46 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:37:34 <mek42> to save me reading 80 sites before finding the one I'm looking for, any suggestions to review my understanding of signals? I'd once played on the co-op game but have since forgotten much 16:38:43 <Jinassi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_JB89zheHs&feature=youtu.be 16:40:22 <andythenorth> Wolf01: I havenât bought that yet, but Iâm going to. Good reviews 16:44:02 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 16:47:05 <b_jonas> mek42: was that co-op game before or after usable path signals? 16:47:56 <mek42> b_jonas: It used block signals and was maybe a year ago. 16:48:34 <mek42> Have path signals changed since then? What are the pros / cons of block / path? 16:49:33 <b_jonas> I think path signals are older than that 16:51:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 16:51:58 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:52:36 <peter1138> Don't use block signals at all. 16:54:41 <peter1138> (If you need block signals, you wouldn't be asking the question) 17:00:40 <NGC3982> In larger games, doesn't path signals use way more CPU than block? 17:00:55 <NGC3982> larger/any. 17:03:14 <Eddi|zuHause> this is basically an urban myth 17:03:24 <Sylf> Probably not enough for anyone to feel any difference, if it's actually different 17:03:26 <Eddi|zuHause> there is no data to support it 17:04:33 <Eddi|zuHause> it may actually reduce the CPU load, because in complex junctions, the pathfinder will be called fewer times, as the train will just follow the reserved path 17:05:31 <Eddi|zuHause> but this depends heavily on playing style, which in turn has much bigger effects on size and CPU usage of the network 17:05:58 <Eddi|zuHause> and chances are that in big games, cargo handling will trump everything else anyway 17:07:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:11:44 <b_jonas> really? I thought it was drawing the screen when I zoom out is what consumes most of the cpu time. But maybe I'm just not playing on big enough maps, unlike those people who complain about the limit of 65536x65536 tiles map size. 17:12:06 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:12:07 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you can just not zoom out... 17:12:49 <Eddi|zuHause> frankly, i only ever zoom out while the game is paused... 17:12:51 <b_jonas> These days computers are just fast enough to handle all this. 17:13:15 <b_jonas> So the game lags only when I save. 17:14:44 <Alberth> load some big openttdcoop saves :p 17:15:51 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16:32 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:18:35 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:42 *** geowgie [~geowgie@host81-154-21-163.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: geowgie] 17:19:09 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:19:28 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:20:03 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:22:45 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest535 17:22:50 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:22:54 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01a225.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:24:53 <Alberth> hola 17:26:58 *** Elyon [~emma@0x52b41996.static.bcbnet.dk] has joined #openttd 17:27:23 * Elyon returns after a short absense 17:28:26 *** Guest535 [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:29:00 *** luaduck_zzz [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:29:31 <frosch123> hai 17:29:37 <Elyon> hei 17:30:29 *** luaduck_zzz [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:35 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 17:34:09 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27108 /trunk/src/lang (latin.txt spanish.txt) (2015-01-02 17:45:51 UTC) 17:46:01 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:46:02 <DorpsGek> latin - 1 changes by Supercheese 17:46:03 <DorpsGek> spanish - 2 changes by SilverSurferZzZ 17:50:21 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:53:45 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:13 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:23:46 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:54 *** Plaete [~moffi@185.66.193.10] has joined #openttd 18:50:29 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:02 *** B0lli [~B0ll1@231.135.115.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 19:04:19 *** Bolli [~B0ll1@87.112.34.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:38 *** B0lli [~B0ll1@231.135.115.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:08:45 <NGC3982> Is there a autoreplace entry in openttd.cfg? 19:09:05 <NGC3982> I can't seem to find why i cannot autoreplace vehicles. 19:09:25 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3F30.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 19:09:35 *** Plaete [~moffi@185.66.193.10] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 19:12:43 *** Plaete [~moffi@dsdf-4db54f58.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:19:51 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:20:24 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 19:40:25 <Sylf> NGC3982: what happens when you try to autoreplace? 19:41:26 <NGC3982> I solved it. It was a NewGRF malfunction. 19:47:58 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50:52 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27109 trunk/src/stdafx.h (2015-01-02 19:50:43 UTC) 19:50:53 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r27102): MinGW compilation 19:51:15 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD5D63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:51:20 *** Quatroking_ [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 19:52:52 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5D63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:10 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.178.240.138] has joined #openttd 19:57:46 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01:36 *** mucht_home [~Martin@85-127-225-171.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 20:02:40 *** mgpl [~mgpl@176-58-16-246.net.e-cho.pl] has joined #openttd 20:04:13 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:08:04 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest555 20:08:09 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:10:13 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-184-87.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 20:13:16 *** Guest555 [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:12 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:20:19 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 20:59:35 *** JGR_ [~JGR@host86-135-49-135.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:02:19 *** JGR [~JGR@host86-135-53-120.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:19 *** JGR_ is now known as JGR 21:16:11 *** Plaete [~moffi@dsdf-4db54f58.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:20:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D09B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:31:09 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 21:38:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01a225.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:54:05 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:f1cc:51c8:9d1a:491a] has quit [Quit: .] 21:55:15 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-42-155.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:57:50 <supermop> yo 21:58:00 <NGC3982> Oy. 21:58:01 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:58:43 <Elyon> :3 22:01:05 *** mucht_home [~Martin@85-127-225-171.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:19 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:38:33 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:56:51 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 23:04:21 *** estys [~stefan@188-22-53-76.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:29:10 <Wolf01> 'night 23:29:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:44:53 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!]