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00:12:06 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@62-78-237-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:28:03 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3261.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 00:35:06 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-155-131.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6A63F.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:00:54 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 01:01:38 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:07:57 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58_ 01:12:40 *** bereasonable [~oftc-webi@ppp221-114.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 01:13:46 <bereasonable> Hey guys - just have a signal question, wondering if anyone could take a look at it for me. http://i.imgur.com/hPvY7rN.png It's an entry signal that is showing red, but I've got a green exit signal afterwards. What gives? (I'm a pretty big newb so I'm probably missing something obvious) 01:15:04 <bereasonable> I'm thinking it might be something to do with the angle of the track - I've got a similar setup with more space and it works fine. 01:16:18 <Supercheese> change everything to path signals 01:16:22 <Supercheese> avoid headaches like that 01:16:48 <Supercheese> pull those two signals at the front of the station there and convert the rest to path signals 01:17:08 <Supercheese> oh, and you'll have to edit the tracks at the end of the station to add another signal there 01:17:12 <Supercheese> I can illustrate, one moment 01:22:14 <Supercheese> Ok so: http://i.imgur.com/7Tb99Ro.png at the end of your station as shown you have a problem, there is no signal in the area corresponding to the red circle in my image. You'll want to edit the track so you can stick a signal immediately after the station as shown in the green circle at bottom. 01:23:24 <Supercheese> and as you can see, only 1 path signal is needed right before the branch in front of the station, and 1 signal per platform immediately behind the station 01:28:36 <bereasonable> Oh! 01:28:38 <bereasonable> Brilliant. 01:29:15 <bereasonable> So I don't need to futz around with those entrance-exit bollocks? the paths will sort themselves out? 01:30:55 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@58.108.147.32] has joined #openttd 01:31:27 <bereasonable> Yep! I made those changes, and it's working. Thanks so much. So should I just universally use one-way paths? are they much simpler than the entrance/exit/block stuff? or are they just different? 01:37:30 <Supercheese> Yeah, much simpler 01:37:55 <Supercheese> follow the paradigm of "only place signals where you want trains to wait", so right before branches and right after platforms 01:38:12 <Supercheese> and of course spaced at intervals along the mainline 02:02:11 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:04:33 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:05:15 *** flipFLOPS [~aardvark@cpe-107-185-75-97.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:28:45 *** dustinm` [~dustinm`@105.ip-167-114-152.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:38:23 *** dustinm` [~dustinm`@105.ip-167-114-152.net] has joined #openttd 03:24:45 *** bereasonable [~oftc-webi@ppp221-114.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:31:17 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.100.106] has joined #openttd 03:41:22 *** DanMacK [~3265a7d8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 03:43:24 <DanMacK> Anyone alive in here? lol 03:44:08 <Pikkaphone> Nope 04:13:03 *** Katje [freemadi@mail.quixotic.eu] has joined #openttd 04:13:14 <Katje> hi. How can I get a town to grow ? 04:15:04 <Katje> ahah, that did it, it managed to hem itself in, by building on a bit of road that was connecting the town to itself... 04:15:08 <Katje> stupid AI. 04:24:53 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:25:33 <Katje> Ok, that didn't do what I had hoped. I have a town, which has an airport, a bus station, a lorry station, a dock and a train station. The dock recieves oil, the airport has planes shipping out goods, and the station has trains delivering passengers/mail, and collecting coal + wood. 04:25:49 <Katje> trains are coming in every few seconds. ditto planes 04:25:57 <Katje> why then, does it not grow ? 04:28:10 <Katje> oh, no bus station, btu there is everything else 04:33:06 *** gnu_jj_ [~quassel@ipbcc18388.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:34:26 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 04:45:32 *** gnu_jj [~quassel@ipbcc18388.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 04:45:41 <Katje> Is there anybody out there... 04:55:22 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@58.108.147.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:08:57 *** DanMacK [~3265a7d8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:14:17 *** gnu_jj [~quassel@ipbcc18388.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 05:18:25 *** Pereba [~UserNick@191.32.227.59] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC, portable and less than 800kb. Worth a try! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:22:42 * Supercheese is 05:22:56 <Supercheese> but I was playing War Thunder 05:23:09 <Supercheese> still am, even 05:27:11 *** gnu_jj [~quassel@ipbcc18388.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 05:44:22 *** Pikka [~Octomom@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:45:09 *** Celestar [~Celestar@80.120.70.146] has joined #openttd 05:52:54 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-177-242.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:54:59 <Katje> is there anyway to make valuables a profitable cargo ? 05:55:56 *** gnrd [~gnrd@201-212-132-160.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #openttd 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC662A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5F30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:56:55 <Supercheese> fly them between distant cities by plane 05:57:01 <Katje> that is what I am doing 05:57:03 <Katje> doesn't seem to work 05:57:05 <Supercheese> or ship by train 05:57:14 <Katje> they just don't generate fast enough to make it worth while 05:57:20 <Katje> it's shipping 2-3 bags at a time 05:57:22 <Supercheese> you must ensure they leave ~80% full on both legs 05:57:26 <Supercheese> which can be tough 05:57:34 <Supercheese> and you need 1/1 plane speed too 05:58:56 *** gnrd [~gnrd@201-212-132-160.cab.prima.net.ar] has quit [] 05:58:58 <Katje> ? 06:00:02 <ST2> 1/1 plane speed <<-- tell me the server xD 06:02:22 <Supercheese> I don't do multiplayer so I wouldn't know 06:02:24 <ST2> and by "valuables" I take a Temperate map - since distance is considerable (150-200 tiles for RV's) - yeah, roadvehicles loose on it, i any way 06:03:04 <ST2> with trains (depending of year), can deliver further 06:03:30 <ST2> Supercheese, try that in SP 06:03:53 <ST2> hopefully MP is not a scheme to full us all :P 06:04:19 <ST2> fool* 06:05:29 <supermop> hi all 06:05:36 <ST2> hi :) 06:15:55 <supermop> whats going on? 06:23:15 <Katje> I really can't work out what is going on with this town. Every station is getting lots of traffic, stuff is being moved about. Yet the rating is Appalling (even after leaving it for years), and it isn't growing... 06:26:22 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-173-141.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 06:30:04 <supermop> bug? 06:31:48 <Katje> that is what I am wondering 06:36:40 <Katje> and the pop just dropped 200. 07:13:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:13:54 <andythenorth> Pikka: hai :) 07:14:15 <Pikka> frequently! 07:15:20 <andythenorth> are pikkaâs gainfully employed yet? o_O 07:15:38 <Pikka> not apart from uni 07:15:39 <Pikka> and newgrf 07:16:52 <Katje> that point when you accidentally delete a signal at the wrong time, and crash a pair of trains. 07:16:56 <Katje> oops.... 07:18:55 <Pikka> andythenorth, didn't you do something with procedural sprite drawing a while back? 07:19:08 <andythenorth> yes 07:19:20 <Pikka> I'm considering it 07:19:24 <Pikka> for trees and such 07:22:44 <Katje> hmm, I am finding more bugs. There was a cross in one of the platforms of this station, and now 3 years later, nothing will go near that platform... 07:23:47 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-62-36.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:24:15 <Katje> delete, and rebuild, works fine 07:24:16 <Katje> weirdness 07:30:33 <andythenorth> Pikka: with actual pixels? Not meshes? 07:30:40 <Pikka> yes 07:31:04 <andythenorth> I did it with PIL in python, other drawing libraries are available etc 07:31:12 <andythenorth> itâs quite fun once you get started with it 07:31:30 <Pikka> yes 07:31:50 <andythenorth> trees are a good case for it 07:32:06 <Pikka> definitely 07:34:06 <peter1138> grass 07:36:58 <Pikka> filthy swine 07:38:51 <andythenorth> think theyâd be harder 07:39:08 <andythenorth> legs and stuff 07:39:20 *** roadt_ [~roadt@124.113.174.70] has joined #openttd 07:43:22 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 07:44:16 <Pikka> maybe 07:45:55 <andythenorth> ho ho 07:45:59 <andythenorth> buses and such from Dan 07:46:06 <andythenorth> maybe Pikka originally 07:46:18 * andythenorth should make some hog 07:46:18 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.100.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:46:22 <Pikka> yes, he said he was doing some more 07:46:25 <Pikka> when he was on earlier 07:46:32 <Pikka> I look forward to moer hoegs. 07:46:37 <andythenorth> all pixels though 07:46:42 <andythenorth> pixels are outdated :| 07:46:49 <Pikka> maybe 07:47:00 <Pikka> just needs more pixels 07:47:05 * andythenorth is like a man who canât jump off the ledge 07:47:09 <Pikka> 16x as many 07:47:10 <andythenorth> even though itâs crumbling 07:47:24 <andythenorth> pixels are dead, the original base set is dead 07:47:33 <andythenorth> but the alternatives areâŠ.ugh 07:47:55 <Pikka> you'll have to help me with pineapple base. not sure how. :) 07:48:01 <andythenorth> ha :) 07:48:45 <andythenorth> Hot Metal https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/entry/src/graphics/metal_car_brit_gen_1_0.png 07:48:49 <andythenorth> we did that 07:49:57 <Pikka> steamy 07:51:35 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 07:53:06 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 07:54:33 <Terkhen> hello 08:02:28 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:06:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A186FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:06:49 <andythenorth> lo Terkhen 08:07:41 *** chillcore [~chillcore@2a02:a03f:1048:5400:4e72:b9ff:feac:5979] has joined #openttd 08:08:10 <chillcore> hello all 08:14:35 <chillcore> Hmm something is wrong with trunk ... I pulled and it did not fix the plethora of bugs in my queue :P 08:23:46 *** shadowalkerAFK is now known as shadowalker 08:24:06 <andythenorth> beebul 08:24:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:25:39 *** shadowalker is now known as shadowalkerAFK 08:25:44 *** roidal_ [~roland@194-152-173-62.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 08:26:01 *** shadowalkerAFK is now known as shadowalker 08:28:23 *** Celestar [~Celestar@80.120.70.146] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:30:23 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-173-141.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:35:08 <supermop> lots of trams today 08:39:12 <supermop> maybe i'll take a break on road corners and try to knock out dead-ends, then i'll have a viable set of road sprites 08:39:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:39:53 <supermop> big race tomorrow 08:40:08 <supermop> i don't even know who drives in these things anymore 08:40:19 <supermop> i think there is an australian guy? 08:40:36 <supermop> probably one or two Finnish guys? 08:40:45 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 08:40:59 <supermop> assuming some british guys 08:41:26 <supermop> does that hamilton guy still drive? 08:46:13 *** Geoff_AK [~Geoff_AK_@host86-176-153-6.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:50:01 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:50:58 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:54:26 <chillcore> hehe supermop ... hamilton guy will be driving for mercedes, yes 08:55:21 *** Katje [freemadi@mail.quixotic.eu] has left #openttd [] 08:55:34 <supermop> tomorrow will mark the third day i've been in a city with a gp and have not gone 08:55:57 <supermop> after shanghai in 2013 and here in melbourne in 2014 08:59:33 <chillcore> I wonder if I will be able to watch properly this year ... my previous ISP was a master-throttler for everything they did not approve of (read: pretty much everything a normal person uses internet for) 09:32:45 <Rubidium> supermop: is that locality in both the spacial and temporal sense? 09:33:10 <supermop> i guess so Rubidium 09:33:50 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@140.90-149-87.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:33:58 <supermop> most GPs are not really in cities though, so now I'm pressed to think of which cities i have been in on days which their gp was not occuring 09:34:25 <Rubidium> although... I have walked/biked on at least two actual GP courses 09:34:41 <supermop> and i am only thinking of the somewhat boring case of Indianapolis 09:35:27 <supermop> i've walked on the course here on my way to rent a paddleboat! 09:36:34 <supermop> this dead end is so boring i cannot bring myself to move around the bits of already modeled road and curb to assemble it 09:38:11 <supermop> which courses have you been to Rubidium ? 09:38:35 <supermop> maybe some cities i've been in had GPs long ago that i am not aware of 09:38:52 <Rubidium> I have been on the actual tarmac of Montreal (Canada) and Monaco, and I've staid in the hotel next to Zandvoort (Netherlands) 09:39:30 <Rubidium> maybe I've been close to others, but I don't count them ;) 09:41:35 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 09:42:44 <supermop> i've actually never been to quebec despite often being near it 09:42:51 <supermop> nor to monaco 09:43:42 <Rubidium> the Monaco one is quite easy to "trigger" because if you're crossing the road next to the main harbour, you almost guaranteed crossed the route of the GP there 09:44:47 <Rubidium> in Montreal it is on a separate island in the river, so slightly less likely to trigger actually being on the GP tracks 09:45:36 <Rubidium> on the other hand, the bicycle track over the island is partially routed over the actual GP circuit 09:45:50 *** Plaete [~moffi@dsdf-4d0a2c35.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:46:22 <Rubidium> I did it about one order of magnitude slower than the professionals in their cars though ;) 09:46:37 <supermop> i want to go to motreal to see the old expo stuff anyway 09:46:52 <supermop> but my fiance just did that a couple years ago 09:47:22 <Rubidium> so... bachelor party there... problem solved 09:47:26 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@90.149.87.140] has joined #openttd 09:51:00 <supermop> hehe i was hoping for somewhere less cold if i were to spend money for a fancy bachelor trip away 09:51:55 <supermop> one idea is to go to viet nam so we can save money by getting wedding party's suits made there in hoi an 09:52:05 <Rubidium> supermop: so... 30+ degrees Celsius 09:52:33 <supermop> but we don't want wedding with big party so don't really need the suits 09:52:53 <supermop> hmm for some reason i never envisioned bachelor party in the summer 09:53:12 <Rubidium> because Ontario and Quebec were pretty hot when I was there 09:53:43 <Rubidium> but then that was already mid-to-late June 09:53:50 <supermop> as weddings are too expensive in the summer 09:54:11 <supermop> most of northern US and southern CA are very hot in summer 09:54:17 <supermop> and often humid too 09:54:31 <supermop> i find summer in Minnesota worse than new york 09:56:38 <supermop> gah only 3 hours left to eat pie 09:57:01 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@90.149.87.140] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:57:13 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@90.149.87.140] has joined #openttd 09:57:59 <Pikka> mmm pie 09:58:06 <Rubidium> supermop: that's just bullshit ;) 09:58:17 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:59:40 <supermop> brb pie 10:00:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:02:51 <Rubidium> because if you're going to say it's really pi "moment" at 9:26:53, then why not add a "few" (thousands) of decimal places and -12:00 to it will actually happen in about 11 hours 10:09:27 <chillcore> lol @forums ... genuine fake documents and moneyz for sale 10:16:11 <Pikka> I do enjoy genuine fakes 10:16:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.38.183] has joined #openttd 10:17:05 <Wolf01> hi o/ 10:17:34 <chillcore> o/ 10:20:33 <Eddi|zuHause> not like those chinese knockoff fakes? 10:22:40 <Rubidium> genuine fake document, isn't that just a document with a huge watermark saying "FAKE"? 10:24:35 *** flipFLOPS [~aardvark@cpe-107-185-75-97.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:25:50 <chillcore> I dunno ... I think the fake fake ones have a "NOT FAKE" mark? 10:33:23 <Wolf01> I could purchase a new ID card from him, as the office is closed today I must wait for the next saturday 10:55:45 *** Plaete [~moffi@dsdf-4d0a2c35.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:55:52 <TrueBrain> NOTICE: svn.openttd.org will be unreachable for a short period of time 10:55:56 <TrueBrain> I have to migrate some data :) 10:59:38 <TrueBrain> syncing 12k commits ... this will take some time :D 11:01:15 <Wolf01> city: skylines looks wonderful, isn't it? 11:01:33 <TrueBrain> too bad it doesnt have MP :( 11:03:57 <chillcore> FUU someones youtube signature keeps infecting my ipad with useless downloads ... grrrrrrrrr 11:06:17 <Eddi|zuHause> why would you get a fake ID when you can just have a real "inofficial" ID? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eao8yBKHYT8&t=2201 11:08:09 <TrueBrain> grrr, the bingbot iptables ban dropped ... 11:08:14 <TrueBrain> explains the 10+ load on a machine ... 11:08:20 <TrueBrain> fucking DoS shitsoftware :( 11:09:14 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:09:48 <TrueBrain> 10% of the requests of this month of all http traffic are done by bingbot 11:09:50 <TrueBrain> spam much? 11:09:55 <chillcore> ye "they" (not just Bing) started playing dirty some time ago 11:10:10 <TrueBrain> bingbot never behaved according to any policy 11:10:30 <TrueBrain> I didnt want to permaban it, assuming they would fix it some day .. but it seems it is the only sane approach 11:12:03 * chillcore is thinking about having an interwebz whitelist instead of trying to block all the spyware logos (and similar) via blacklist 11:12:29 <chillcore> I'll be done with the crap faster :P 11:12:37 <TrueBrain> so supybot is kinda death ... 2 years of no ommits .. 11:12:40 <TrueBrain> what is a good alternative? 11:13:38 <Taede> limnoria? 11:14:02 <Taede> it forked from supybot, but is still maintained 11:15:06 <Wolf01> we were under "DoS" by yandex 11:15:18 <TrueBrain> tnx Taede 11:15:24 <Wolf01> half of the bandwidth just for it 11:16:42 <chillcore> ye it is crazy ... we pay for our connection and traffic and then we have to pay again for the adds to be shoved our way, which we never asked for to begin with 11:23:09 <chillcore> anyone tried sending them an invoice yet for eating bandwitdh that is not theirs? 11:23:13 <chillcore> :P 11:24:05 *** liq4 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:24:05 *** liq3 is now known as Guest289 11:24:05 *** liq4 is now known as liq3 11:30:13 *** Guest289 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34:38 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-135-174.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 11:36:10 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:36:56 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 11:37:29 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:38:21 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-62-36.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:41:40 *** _dp_ [~dP@178.70.109.217] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:15 *** liq4 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:42:15 *** liq3 is now known as Guest292 11:42:15 *** liq4 is now known as liq3 11:46:33 *** Guest292 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:47:05 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:48:33 <Wolf01> bah, I have â¬3.75 on the microsoft account which expire on june... what could I purchase? 11:48:48 <TrueBrain> money that expires ... you got to love that 11:49:05 <Wolf01> yeah 11:49:24 <TrueBrain> hmm .. git clone doesnt work .. why not ... 11:49:25 <Wolf01> those were the old MS points which got converted to money 11:49:27 <TrueBrain> vague errors are vague .. 11:49:32 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 11:50:22 <TrueBrain> ah, there we go :) 11:51:00 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD trunk.git is HUGE :P 11:51:24 *** _dp_ [~dP@178.70.84.200] has joined #openttd 11:53:15 <Wolf01> I'll purchase "unicorn savior" (it's a shooting game) for sure, it's just â¬3.49 -> https://studioirisapps.wordpress.com/english/unicorn-savior-english/ 11:53:34 <TrueBrain> hmm .. seems I managed to move all the git repositories .. 11:53:38 <TrueBrain> that was rather unintented 11:54:19 <TrueBrain> meh 12:07:59 <Wolf01> wow, a cool mockup app.. but it costs â¬7.99 :| 12:08:41 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:08:53 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 12:12:25 <Wolf01> I think is time to redeem the 4200 MSpoints card I purchased... 5 years ago 12:12:35 <TrueBrain> lol 12:13:05 <TrueBrain> right, can I just state that hgweb is very poorly documented? 12:13:07 <TrueBrain> yeah, I think I can 12:14:00 <Wolf01> you don't even figure how poorly documented is our proprietary cms 12:14:11 <TrueBrain> this is not a contest 12:15:33 <TrueBrain> omg, it is hardcoded ... lolz 12:19:08 <Wolf01> damn, that ms point card value is â¬0 12:21:04 *** liq3 is now known as Guest298 12:21:05 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:24:21 *** Plaete [~moffi@dsdf-4d0a2c35.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:24:43 *** Guest298 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:39 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:30:08 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:31:34 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:31:44 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:07 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest299 12:32:12 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:14 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 12:32:50 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:35:51 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:35:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:36:35 *** Guest299 [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:44:48 *** liq4 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:44:48 *** liq3 is now known as Guest302 12:44:49 *** liq4 is now known as liq3 12:46:56 <DorpsGek> Commit r27185 doesn't exists 12:47:04 <TrueBrain> did I mistype? :( 12:47:22 <TrueBrain> no, I did not! Stupid bot :D 12:50:58 *** Guest302 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:15 <chillcore> ... should not have taught it to troll? :P 12:57:26 <TrueBrain> where is the fun in that?! 13:01:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A63F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:03:21 <chillcore> true, the brain needs teasing from time to time. XD 13:09:10 <chillcore> and now I forgot how to properly redraw another gui NOW instead of some time later ... 13:12:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A186FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18:13 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-177-242.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:18:39 <TrueBrain> get_socket_address errors .. that doesnt sound good 13:19:09 <Eddi|zuHause> why would one have pie on this day over any other day? 13:19:18 <Xaroth|Work> because it is pi day. 13:19:35 <Xaroth|Work> it's a very special pi day as well 13:19:50 <Eddi|zuHause> 14032015 are not the beginning digits of pie, anyway 13:19:57 <Xaroth|Work> 3/14/15 9:26:53 13:20:06 <Xaroth|Work> for us notation 13:20:15 <Eddi|zuHause> who cares about us notation? 13:20:17 <TrueBrain> and there you went wrong 13:20:20 <TrueBrain> ;) 13:20:27 <Eddi|zuHause> they're notationously wrong about everything 13:20:31 <chillcore> hehe 13:20:32 <Xaroth|Work> pretty much 13:20:34 <Xaroth|Work> but i'll take it 13:20:37 <Xaroth|Work> if it means a reason to eat pie 13:20:39 <TrueBrain> just another excuse to eat cake ... 13:20:44 <Eddi|zuHause> like, what a billion is 13:20:45 <TrueBrain> that is why they are so fat 13:20:55 <Eddi|zuHause> or what a kilometer is 13:21:07 <Xaroth|Work> or temperature 13:21:16 <Eddi|zuHause> also, pi in itself is "wrong" 13:21:28 <Eddi|zuHause> the constant should be 2pi 13:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> although, that is not the americans' fault for once :p 13:22:23 <Eddi|zuHause> at least that i know of :p 13:23:38 <Eddi|zuHause> also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E9m6yDEIj8 13:39:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:40:10 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27185 trunk/src/window.cpp (2015-03-13 20:54:35 UTC) 13:40:11 <DorpsGek> -Fix: prevent the compiler from optimizing an assignment away which caused GCC 5 to actually crash 13:40:14 <TrueBrain> yippie, If ixed it :D 13:54:15 *** Plaete [~moffi@dsdf-4d0a2c35.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 14:00:01 <chillcore> next time I want to do gui magics ... someone please distract me with chocolate or something. thx in advance 14:05:26 <andythenorth> just go and find a sharp thing and impale your head on it 14:05:30 <andythenorth> solved no? 14:07:41 <chillcore> that would take away most of the temptation yes 14:17:07 <TrueBrain> w00p, OpenTTD repos on github auto-syncs now too :D 14:18:50 <andythenorth> \o/ 14:19:09 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 14:19:20 * andythenorth wonders if devzone could auto-sync github<->devzone hg 14:22:07 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:22:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:27:23 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27185 trunk/src/window.cpp (2015-03-13 20:54:35 UTC) 14:27:24 <DorpsGek> -Fix: prevent the compiler from optimizing an assignment away which caused GCC 5 to actually crash 14:29:46 <chillcore> Yay for InvalidateWindowClassesData(WC_BLAH) 14:33:00 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-6-168.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:34:14 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@000128f9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:43 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@000128f9.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:34:46 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 14:39:51 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r27186 trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp (2015-03-14 15:27:07 +0100 ) 14:39:52 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Rename AlwaysDrawUnpavedRoads() to better reflect what it does. 14:40:06 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:49:58 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:04 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@62-78-237-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:52:19 *** Oddingar [~Odd@141.0.247.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52:44 *** Oddingar [~Odd@141.0.247.16] has joined #openttd 14:58:15 *** cpxn [~cpxn@104.131.151.222] has joined #openttd 15:04:08 *** shadowalker is now known as shadowalkerAFK 15:04:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d013651.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:09:06 *** Pikka [~Octomom@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:09:30 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:49 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:10:53 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:36:35 <andythenorth> AlwaysDrawMissingCats() 15:38:40 <TrueBrain> what is it with you and cats .... 15:46:22 <frosch123> some people just always thing about food :) 15:46:27 <frosch123> *think 15:48:15 <andythenorth> Cat is same as saying âmy brain is empty' 15:51:33 <V453000> FUCK CATS 15:51:43 <V453000> that means my brain is empty and I disagree with everything 15:53:25 <TrueBrain> so your normal state then 15:54:31 <oskari89> Unpaved roads, does that mean something like roadtypes? :) 15:54:51 <chillcore> I'd love to see you disagreeing with everything V453000 15:54:58 <chillcore> cat might disagree :P 15:57:22 <chillcore> oskari89: sort of but not in the NuTracks way if that is what you mean 16:03:18 <TrueBrain> @seen DorpsGek 16:03:18 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: I have not seen DorpsGek. 16:03:22 <TrueBrain> lolz 16:11:47 <frosch123> apparently there is no mirror here 16:16:13 <TrueBrain> only cat-a-holics 16:22:45 *** Pikka [~sammich@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 16:22:56 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@62-78-237-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:23:09 <Pikka> here a cat, there a cat, everywhere a cat cat 16:23:19 *** Pikka [~sammich@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 16:23:51 <chillcore> talking about cats ... do (wild) birds over-eat like dogs do? 16:32:26 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3D14.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:33:41 <TrueBrain> and where do birds hide when it is raining? 16:36:15 *** liq4 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 16:36:16 *** liq3 is now known as Guest325 16:36:16 *** liq4 is now known as liq3 16:36:52 <chillcore> why hide if you do not get wet to begin with? 16:36:58 *** Guest325 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:03 <chillcore> ^^^ healthy birds that is 16:38:31 <andythenorth> ha ha roadtypes 16:38:37 <andythenorth> ha ha ha ha ha 17:01:34 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:12:55 <Pulec> who got infected by Cities Skylines? 17:13:18 <Pulec> I am having allnighter dissease the whole week since its release 17:13:56 <Pulec> start in evening and when sun comes up I still have tons of plans to do 17:16:21 <Leander_> how does it compare to cities xl? 17:18:33 <frosch123> it's from a different company. it's no sequel/upgrade if you thought that 17:20:26 <Leander_> oh wait, it's from the cities in motion company 17:20:36 <Leander_> I got confused, indeed 17:25:17 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 17:31:46 <Pulec> yeah, its a bit mixed up with cities xxl or how, I never played the game much 17:32:39 <Pulec> but CS(Cities Skylines) has already nice community with people making new buildings, parks, road schemes and mods 17:33:48 <Pulec> I already have like 150 new buildings from Steam Workshop and bunch of mods, from simple showing system time through automatic buldozing to first person cameras 17:34:15 <Pulec> I often think of OTTD when I am making new districs and planning traffic there 17:34:56 <Pulec> I never really made complex train tracks that worked, I rather made everything simple 17:35:56 <Pulec> but I have no idea how to do simple and effective road design for whole city, it can be pretty complex 17:36:52 <Pulec> and trains there look great 17:37:02 <Pulec> really simple though, yet 17:37:39 <Pulec> that yet factor is strong wow in this, because there are so many modding stuff popping each day 17:38:00 *** shadowalkerAFK is now known as shadowalker 17:38:23 <Pulec> one of Paradoxes devs is working on some kind of political system, that could be really great 17:50:27 <Leander_> I guess that any improvement (besides bug fixing) will be a paying DLC or something like that 17:50:51 <Leander_> (improvement to the game engine, not just a mod) 18:19:48 *** shadowalker is now known as shadowalkerAFK 18:21:35 *** shadowalkerAFK is now known as shadowalker 18:44:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A186FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:52:40 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-135-174.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:55:56 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-135-174.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:33 *** shadowalker is now known as shadowalkerAFK 19:19:04 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 19:39:20 *** JayMayer [~JayMayer@81.130.2.22] has joined #openttd 19:51:32 *** Ketsuban_ [~thomas@94.8.211.237] has joined #openttd 19:56:41 *** Ketsuban [~thomas@90.201.33.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:07:26 *** gnrd [~gnrd@0001feba.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:19:08 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:36 *** Celestar [~Celestar@p4FC543E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:32:29 <gnrd> Hello #openttd! I'm starting a new playthrough and i'm trying to decide on which train grf to use. The idea for it is fairly typical, to create a big PAX/MAIL only network on a 4096^2 map, but I havent used mods before (beside AIs) so this is all new to me :P 20:32:45 <gnrd> My focus is not on realistic/historic sets but purely on gameplay - especially with having different train models and types for different roles and not just one "uber train" that eventually replaces all others. 20:33:14 <frosch123> have you tried NUTS then? 20:33:36 <frosch123> it's the obvious choice if you want to gameplay with different types of trains 20:34:13 <gnrd> I have tried it, it does look like it would do the job but then I also tried UKRS2 and now I cant make up my mind 20:35:04 <frosch123> i guess it depends on the timespan you want to play 20:35:14 <gnrd> UKRS2 has it all but I dunno if it holds up in very long playthroughs 20:35:18 <gnrd> What do you say? 20:36:10 <gnrd> The main idea is to have metros/local services and the intercity lines, etc 20:36:27 <frosch123> ukrs has real trains up to today, and then some future ones 20:37:01 <frosch123> well, i have no idea what ukrs can offer wrt. local trains 20:37:09 <frosch123> but possibly you also want to add a tram set 20:38:06 <gnrd> Yeah im looking through the trian list now and there are some "tube" ones which i could use for intra city trasport 20:38:07 <frosch123> iirc "modern tram set" had some decently sized passenger trams 20:38:32 <gnrd> Yes I installed generic tram set- I dont know any other good ones :P 20:38:43 <gnrd> Ohh ok 20:38:50 <frosch123> doesn't the generic tram set only have very small trams? 20:38:59 <frosch123> like 30 passengers? 20:39:18 <gnrd> It does... which might be an issue later on.... 20:39:30 * andythenorth is biased, butâŠIron Horse? 20:39:54 <frosch123> does it have trams? :p 20:39:58 <frosch123> local trains? 20:40:22 <andythenorth> metro, (needs the Termite track grf added too) 20:40:56 * andythenorth was making train recommendations 20:40:57 <gnrd> Heard about it. Does it fit like the gral idea of "different trains for diff roles"? 20:41:12 <andythenorth> it fits the idea of âno single best trainâ 20:41:16 <andythenorth> cos thatâs boring 20:41:41 <gnrd> (Sorry if i dont know, the whole train newgrfs thing is new to me!) 20:41:54 <gnrd> Yeah 20:42:02 <andythenorth> Iron Horse wonât go beyond about 2020 really 20:42:06 <andythenorth> starts 1860 20:42:20 <andythenorth> nothing new after 200x 20:42:26 <frosch123> don't start a game in 1860 though :p 20:42:52 * andythenorth is about to start a game 20:43:00 <andythenorth> not sure whether to play Brit roster one more time 20:43:13 <andythenorth> or try the South American roster, for which all stats are borked 20:43:19 <andythenorth> maybe Brit 20:43:24 <gnrd> Ohh haha. I'm going to check it out. Iron horse i mean 20:43:30 <gnrd> Well NUTS is spot on on that, but there are several things i dont understand about it. Its really... you know 20:43:38 <andythenorth> NUTS is as NUTS does 20:43:53 <gnrd> Haha yea... 20:44:06 <gnrd> for example the train running costs... why are they all the same? 20:44:18 <gnrd> In nuts. They are all around 2000 punds 20:44:20 <frosch123> because they don't matter :p 20:44:23 <gnrd> Is it variable? 20:44:29 <gnrd> OH? 20:44:51 <frosch123> here we do not think ottd is about money 20:45:02 *** Geoff_AK [~Geoff_AK_@host86-176-153-6.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:45:20 <frosch123> no matter what set you pick, you will always have exponentially increasing money 20:46:00 <gnrd> Yeah. I set maintenance on, both costs to hich and it's always too easy with trains... 20:46:05 <gnrd> high* 20:46:09 <frosch123> so, all what cost do is slow you down in the beginning and making the game boring, but they are no challenge or difficulty factor in a long game 20:47:51 <frosch123> if you continue that road, you end up with making everything cheap, and not bothering about cost 20:48:15 <gnrd> Ah.. I can agree with that. I was trying to "make it" matter with higher costs, tho it will spiral upwards no matter what i guess 20:49:25 <gnrd> And the whole disabling maintenace thing in NUTS is related to that? I see the trains have different max.rel but the wiki recommends to disable breakdown 20:49:33 <gnrd> s 20:49:54 <frosch123> that's a preference of the author 20:50:07 <frosch123> many multiplayer people disable breakdowns 20:50:34 <frosch123> and if the grf author never plays with breakdowns, they will also not set any specific vehicle reliabilities 20:51:24 <gnrd> Ok! 20:52:12 <gnrd> So do you thing NUTS by itself would be enough to make a complete network (with added trams) or should I look for more? 20:52:46 <frosch123> if you use nuts, you do not need another train set 20:53:00 <frosch123> it is one of the biggest sets with hundreds of trains 20:53:17 <frosch123> and mixing different sets is always weird 20:53:27 <gnrd> Yeah 20:53:31 <frosch123> but definitely add tram sets :) 20:53:54 <frosch123> they are excellent for feeder systems 20:54:55 <gnrd> Will do. Im gonna test IH anyway, and add Moder Trams right away. Been planning the whole networks for a few days now and the train set choice has been holding me back from Playing :) 20:55:50 <gnrd> Thank you very much frosch123! 20:55:56 <frosch123> yw 20:56:36 <gnrd> And andythenorth. Lets see how it goes. Bye! 20:56:51 *** gnrd [~gnrd@0001feba.user.oftc.net] has left #openttd [Gone!] 20:59:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:59:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6CE35.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:59:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 21:01:43 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:02:18 * andythenorth wonders which FIRS economy to play 21:02:34 <andythenorth> probably has to be Temperate Basic :P 21:02:35 *** cpxn [~cpxn@104.131.151.222] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:31 <frosch123> play toyland basic 21:04:06 <andythenorth> that is an idea 21:04:09 <Supercheese> Mars 21:04:18 * andythenorth checks 21:04:23 <andythenorth> neither of those exist in FIRS 21:05:11 <chillcore> FIRS is toyland enabled these days? 21:06:00 <andythenorth> is it? 21:06:01 <andythenorth> dunno 21:06:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A63F.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:19 <chillcore> me neither that is why I ask ... ;) 21:06:45 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 21:06:50 * chillcore remembers haxxing FIRS long time ago 21:11:34 *** JayMayer [~JayMayer@81.130.2.22] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:55 <chillcore> it is. thx andy much apreciated 21:14:01 <chillcore> hmm no suitable place for bulk terminal industries ... what does that mean? except for having to regenerate a map as suggested. 21:14:13 <andythenorth> moar water 21:15:43 <chillcore> would make a cool tooltip "... because there is not enough water. ..." :P 21:37:53 *** Celestar [~Celestar@p4FC543E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:59 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 21:45:34 *** shirish [~quassel@117.222.6.178] has joined #openttd 21:56:18 *** flipFLOPS [~aardvark@cpe-107-185-75-97.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:56:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:34:04 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-177-242.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:37:33 *** ToBeFree [ToBeFree@00019d36.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:32 *** roidal_ [~roland@194-152-173-62.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 22:40:53 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-135-174.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:23 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3D14.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 22:58:12 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-135-174.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 23:05:52 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: did you mean concentric lines or concentric curbs? 23:06:21 <Eddi|zuHause> concentric circles are circles that have the same center 23:06:33 <supermop> yes.... 23:06:43 <Eddi|zuHause> (but different radius) 23:07:27 <Eddi|zuHause> all your suggested curves try to avoid concentric circles, but to me it feels like the obvious choice 23:08:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose your aim is to reduce the empty area on the far side of the tile 23:09:23 <supermop> the very round one in the first batch is concentric, the more round one in the sencond batch should have had concentic lines but i turned the wrong paint on for render i guess 23:09:28 <supermop> yeah pretty much 23:09:49 <supermop> if these are in an urban area, it seems odd that so much space would be left open 23:10:37 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d013651.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:10:42 <supermop> unless there is some hacky way to make an L-shaped house with a concentric front that overlaps the road! 23:13:28 <supermop> to be honest i dont really like the way any of the corners look 23:13:46 <supermop> i think i should just run with one for now and maybe change it later 23:18:10 <supermop> i always get stuck overthinking on these small details and never produce anything 23:23:21 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:24:52 <Eddi|zuHause> houses can check which side the road is, but i'm not sure if they can check whether it's a curve 23:26:08 <Eddi|zuHause> but if the amount of space disturbs you, you can make a small green park with a few trees or so 23:26:37 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 23:27:11 <Eddi|zuHause> you can also ask for pseudorandom bits like the railway fences, to make things less repetetive 23:27:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A186FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27:53 <Eddi|zuHause> and keep in mind that you can't affect how vehicles move on the road 23:30:32 <supermop> wouldn't vehicle movement seem to ask for a more square-then round corner? 23:33:19 <supermop> as for pseudo-random, wouldn't that require a patch somewhere? i wasn't aware that information was available for roads 23:34:37 *** Pereba [~UserNick@189.115.211.193] has joined #openttd 23:35:08 <supermop> if i was somehow able to get more info per road tile i'd prefer it to be 0-5 townzone 23:35:18 <supermop> brb 23:39:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it probably needs a patch, but it would be a trivial one 23:48:32 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:49:08 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 23:54:09 <supermop> ok 23:54:33 <supermop> well since im making all these variations anyway