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Log for #openttd on 12th May 2015:
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05:07:11  <V453000> peter1138: I do not think it is possible to draw 8bpp recolour mask for 32bpp sprites properly, I have tried various approaches and all failed super horribly
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05:19:36  <Supercheese> I tried once and wasn't able to produce good-looking results either, but that was a while ago
05:20:43  <V453000> I even set up an infrastructure to be able to tweak things to all various results, but no matter what I did, it always makes the result drastically more ugly
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05:27:16  <V453000> ask Pikka what he thinks about CC masks :P
05:33:03  <Supercheese> actually I lied, the one attempt did end relatively decently
05:33:11  <Supercheese> it just took forever
05:33:44  <Supercheese> of course, my "decent" may not be the same as another's
05:34:14  <V453000> I would like to see it tbh :)
05:34:23  <Supercheese> Hmm GIMP is being slow
05:35:10  <Supercheese> I just used a single color for the entire mask
05:35:16  <Pikka> cc masks are fabulous
05:35:23  <V453000> I tried that too, its just bad
05:35:24  <Supercheese> the variations in brightness were handled by the base sprite
05:35:31  <V453000> equal bad to zbase, there it uses only 1 colour as well
05:36:12  <Supercheese> seems like I chose the third-darkest CC for whatever reason
05:36:16  <Pikka> I suppose I'll have to use them for my base set at least...
05:36:17  <Supercheese> dunno why, was a while ago
05:36:43  <V453000> I am still hoping frosch could try to change the algorithm :)
05:37:58  <Supercheese> could always just make separate sprites for each CC
05:38:07  <Supercheese> would be painfully many though
05:38:17  <V453000> not for base set, and x16 is just holy shit many
05:38:29  <V453000> also, base set bridges, ...
05:38:41  <Supercheese> oh bridge recolors, no idea there
05:38:55  <V453000> it works same as vehicles
05:39:31  <peter1138> Of course it's possible. People manage it perfectly well with 8bpp.
05:40:06  <V453000> 8bpp is majorly different.
05:40:34  <V453000> yes, through simple logic "it can look goods there, it must look good here", it sounds very simple. yes.
05:40:36  <peter1138> Not when it comes to CC.
05:40:41  <V453000> :D
05:40:47  <V453000> well CC is the whole problem
05:41:09  <peter1138> It's totally possible. It is a complete cunt when you are 3D rendering everything else, but it's still possible.
05:41:22  <V453000> ok
05:41:26  <V453000> show me pleaSE
05:41:32  <V453000> cause me has no clue anymore
05:46:30  <peter1138> Don't be silly, I'm a programmer, not an artist.
05:48:27  <V453000> then at least explain to me how it should be conceptually possible :P
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07:41:00  <andythenorth> o/
07:41:04  <andythenorth> Pikka huzzah!
07:41:07  <V453000> yo
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11:06:43  <supermop> yo
11:16:07  <V453000> oy
11:23:23  <argoneus> ay
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14:07:21  <V453000> 2,5 million polygons for 1 openttd vehicle does not sounds like polygon-efficient solution XD
14:07:35  <Xaroth|Work> not at all
14:08:44  <V453000> ready for x64 zoom
14:09:10  <V453000> The Community will request it sooner or later anyway
14:09:20  <planetmaker> :D
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17:35:26  <andythenorth> o/
17:35:29  <andythenorth> is cat
17:35:34  <planetmaker> \o
17:36:33  <frosch123> hoi
17:37:03  <TrueBrain> o/
17:37:05  <TrueBrain> is human
17:37:12  <frosch123> liar
17:37:29  <TrueBrain> proof me different
17:37:56  <frosch123> you administrate openttd.org
17:39:28  <TrueBrain> point proven
17:39:30  <TrueBrain> dammit
17:42:00  <frosch123> someone knows the "homeworld" game?
17:42:15  <frosch123> truebrain permanently integrated itself into the openttd server :)
17:43:15  <TrueBrain> *beep*
17:43:35  <planetmaker> it triggers a faint memory, frosch123. It's a MOO - style game, yes?
17:43:58  <frosch123> not really
17:44:16  <frosch123> it's more like a combination of wing command and command&conquer
17:44:29  <frosch123> *wing commander
17:44:57  <planetmaker> well, ok, but I think it's the one I think of :D
17:45:29  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27284 trunk/src/lang/latin.txt (2015-05-12 19:45:19 +0200 )
17:45:30  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:31  <DorpsGek> latin - 1 changes by Supercheese
17:45:37  <frosch123> anyway, the main starship is controlled by a scienties who built herself into it
17:45:47  <frosch123> *scientist
17:46:17  <TrueBrain> you think that you think
17:46:19  <TrueBrain> awesome :D
17:46:22  <TrueBrain> that means you are!
17:46:25  <frosch123> the starship is a kybernetic life form
17:46:29  <TrueBrain> or at least .. that is what you think
17:46:58  <frosch123> TrueBrain: many people only think that they think
17:47:09  <TrueBrain> I know that I think
17:47:13  <TrueBrain> just ... that is not helping me
17:53:35  <andythenorth> it might be an illusion
17:53:43  <andythenorth> maybe Descartes was wrong
17:55:33  <peter1138> Blah, stupid monitor :(
17:55:49  <frosch123> get a dispaly
17:55:52  <frosch123> *display
18:01:14  <peter1138> Do what
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19:04:10  * andythenorth ponders
19:05:12  *** Rubidium_ is now known as Rubidium
19:05:22  * Rubidium too... a weekend to Oxford or Cambridge (or somewhere else)?
19:08:06  <__ln__> why not La Spezia, Italy
19:09:39  <Rubidium> because I can sell it to my boss to get the ticket to the UK on Friday to instead of Sunday (it's cheaper), but going via Italy is somewhat harder ;)
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19:13:41  <andythenorth> Rubidium: what do you like to do on a trip?
19:14:47  <Rubidium> stroll through the town, visit some local culture stuff, and if possible learn something weird
19:15:26  <andythenorth> those probably work
19:15:52  <andythenorth> I have not really been to Cambridge except for a wedding, people tell me it’s nice though
19:16:06  <andythenorth> Oxford same
19:18:10  <andythenorth> Bristol has a big ship and cider
19:18:12  <andythenorth> and a bridge
19:18:17  <andythenorth> http://visitbristol.co.uk
19:18:56  <andythenorth> and more festivals than any other city in UK
19:19:03  * andythenorth slightly biased
19:19:15  <Rubidium> you live (near) there?
19:19:18  <andythenorth> in it
19:19:20  <andythenorth> dead centre
19:19:30  <andythenorth> Edinburgh also people tell me is good, have never been
19:20:12  <planetmaker> I do know of Edinburgh to be a nice place to be... do not know the others
19:20:41  <planetmaker> Bristol might be a good spot if you can secure a nice place to crash there :P
19:21:14  <Rubidium> oh... big green week. I hope they don't use green pain everywhere
19:21:28  <andythenorth> Microprose were based in Bristol when TTD was made :P
19:21:51  <andythenorth> Bath also is popular for tourists
19:22:15  <Rubidium> http://visitbristol.co.uk/whats-on/fathers-day-steam-up-p1879193 <- something for you and the kids?
19:22:34  <andythenorth> someone I work with drives that train
19:23:45  <andythenorth> the big boat is good, huge engine in it
19:29:14  <Rubidium> Bristol looks nice as well... choices...
19:31:41  * andythenorth should get comission
19:31:56  <Taede> edinburgh is nice, glasgow has a transport museum
19:32:05  <Taede> stirling is good too
19:32:10  <planetmaker> hm... where about do you live, Taede ? :)
19:32:26  <Taede> Falkirk, between the 3
19:32:30  <andythenorth> has a wheel
19:32:32  * planetmaker makes list of notes with places-to-visit :)
19:32:49  <Taede> yup, rotating boat lift
19:33:07  <Taede> also, the kelpies now
19:34:05  <andythenorth> Glasgow also has Loch Lomond and such
19:36:09  <Taede> no loch lomond is quite further up
19:36:27  <Taede> it has the clyde though
19:37:10  <andythenorth> hmm
19:37:20  <andythenorth> it is about 15 years since I went there
19:37:36  <andythenorth> my memory has Loch Lomond about 20 minutes from Glasgow on a bus :P
19:37:39  <andythenorth> might be false
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19:37:57  <Taede> probably not far wrong, dependss on where in glasgow you start
19:38:11  <andythenorth> bus station :D
19:38:25  <andythenorth> pretty city, when the sun is out
19:39:21  <Taede> i'll need to nip down to london sometime this year
19:39:30  <Taede> only place i can get a new passport
19:40:40  <Taede> dutch consulates (of which there is one in Edinburgh) have stopped operating a couter, so i cannot get it there anymore
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19:48:03  <Rubidium> Taede: can't you just become Scottish?
19:50:13  <Taede> i could, but i'd lose my dutchness
19:50:30  <Taede> but if i get married, i woulr retain dutch whilst also becoming scottish
19:51:08  <Taede> we were supposed to marry twice, but both times we had to cancel due to reasons beyond our control
19:52:26  <planetmaker> outch. Bad omen, eh? :(
19:52:42  <Rubidium> that sucks, so "driemaal is scheepsrecht?"
19:53:02  <TrueBrain> 3rd time is the charm
19:53:05  <Taede> thats what we're going for
19:53:08  <TrueBrain> to give you an accurate translation ;)
19:53:47  <planetmaker> Alle guten Dinge sind drei
19:54:05  <TrueBrain> sorry, I dont speak French
19:54:14  <planetmaker> :P
19:54:30  <Rubidium> planetmaker: except 3*3 is so negative in German
19:55:06  <planetmaker> ?
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19:55:19  <Rubidium> nine <-> nein
19:55:45  <planetmaker> don't jump the language border mid-sentence ;)
19:59:07  <Rubidium> talking about 3... when is Germany's supposed-to-be third largest airport going to open its terminals?
19:59:50  <planetmaker> in 2 years or so?
20:00:34  <planetmaker> I only believe it being open in 2017 when it is actually open, though
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20:08:13  <peter1138> Stupid Humble Bundles. I have far too many games I never play :S
20:08:32  <andythenorth> including OpenTTD?
20:08:33  <andythenorth> :P
20:08:49  <^Spike^> peter1138 problem sounds familiar.... :)
20:08:53  <planetmaker> welcome to the club
20:09:04  <^Spike^> *mumbles something about 200 items in steam library*
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20:10:31  <Wolf01> o/
20:10:43  <andythenorth> enough internets for today
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20:11:51  <Wolf01> @seen andythenorth
20:11:51  <DorpsGek> Wolf01: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 1 minute and 5 seconds ago: * andythenorth bed
20:11:56  <Wolf01> damn
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