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Log for #openttd on 23rd May 2015:
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00:42:01  <supermop> yo
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01:04:51  <supermop> yo pikka
01:05:55  <Pikka> yoyo supermop
01:06:13  <supermop> hows brisbane today?
01:06:26  <Pikka> fine. :) a little cool.
01:06:56  <supermop> do they have dmus there? it seems like the wires go all the way out to the far off ends of the line
01:07:13  <supermop> even on the single tracked bits
01:08:22  <Pikka> Brisbane is all electrified. I think there's still an old diesel railcar that does a tourist train out to woop woop.
01:08:59  <Pikka> and this one goes from Brisbane to Cairns, but isn't really a DMU. ;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Cairns-tilt-train.JPG
01:09:33  <supermop> never seen that before
01:09:46  <supermop> also, how long of a journey is that?
01:10:05  <Pikka> to Cairns? 1600km iirc.
01:10:22  <Pikka> about a thousand miles.
01:10:31  <Pikka> half as far again as Brisbane to Sydney :)
01:10:33  <supermop> 10 hours at least i imagine?
01:11:04  <supermop> I saw the hst thing here a few weeks ago in the station
01:11:07  <Pikka> the tilt train does 160km/h, so yeah :)
01:11:12  <Pikka> the XPT? yeah :)
01:11:39  <supermop> would have been fun to take to sydney but really cannot justify that vis a vis cheap airfare
01:11:44  <Pikka> done that one from Brisbane to Sydney and back once, never again :P
01:12:01  <Pikka> it's so slow, and not very comfortable for how long it takes.
01:12:17  <supermop> it doesnt even do 125mph if i recall,
01:12:48  <supermop> must be better than ha noi to sai gon at least
01:13:11  <Pikka> it has a maximum speed of 160km/h / 100mph
01:13:22  <Pikka> between brisbane and sydney I think it averages about 50km/h :P
01:14:50  <supermop> soo slower than a tram then
01:15:00  <Pikka> well that might be an exaggeration
01:15:05  <supermop> just extend the melb tram network up to brisbane
01:15:07  <Pikka> but it takes about 14 hours
01:15:18  <Pikka> vs 1.5 hours (and cheaper) to fly... yeah.
01:15:38  <supermop> is the train at least luxurious?
01:15:43  <Pikka> not at all
01:16:02  <supermop> im sure could refit some sleeper compartments into some old Z1 class trams
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01:24:17  <supermop> how's school going?
01:24:32  <Pikka> got my assignment in last night
01:24:50  <Pikka> 2000 words due monday, I'll start after the Eurovision final :)
01:26:35  <Flygon> Brahs
01:26:48  <Flygon> Everyone knows the ultimate in Australian HST technology is the VLocity
01:27:09  <Flygon> Which's also a bit depressing because they only go up to 177km/h in normal service (and even that's overspeed...)
01:33:45  <supermop> fiance is in the thick of finishing up masters assignments here - pretty hectic
01:37:45  <Pikka> good stuff
01:45:00  <supermop> then after that need to arange to ship stuff back and hopefully have a couple days to enjoy the cold and rain before heading home
01:53:41  <supermop> i wonder if bikeshare stations could work in game
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02:44:52  <supermop> made guacamole
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02:57:49  <kamnet> mmmmmmmmmmm quacamole. Now i'm hungry supermop
03:01:27  <supermop> tomato i had was no good though
03:49:34  <kamnet> Meh
04:47:18  <Terkhen> hello
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05:52:22  <Pikka> goooooooood morning saskatchewan
06:00:18  <supermop> who lives there
06:00:34  <Pikka> sasquatches
06:02:22  <supermop> will pineapple sheds be procedurally generated?
06:02:38  <Pikka> sheds?
06:05:31  <supermop> houses
06:05:35  <supermop> shacks
06:05:38  <supermop> huts
06:05:45  <supermop> hovels
06:05:52  <Pikka> well
06:05:57  <supermop> brutalist masterpieces
06:06:44  <Pikka> they'll be pieces which get put together in the code...so basic underlying structures with details and clutter added after.
06:10:24  <supermop> neat
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06:15:35  <andythenorth> o/
06:15:48  <Pikka> o/
06:17:38  <supermop> tea time
06:19:52  * andythenorth needs to replace default sawmill sprites
06:19:59  <andythenorth> with something similar-but-different
06:20:04  <andythenorth> sawmill pictures anyone?
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06:32:08  <Pikka> soremill?
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06:37:39  <supermop> likw a modern sawmill? or 1910s sort of thing?
06:38:30  <supermop> most pictures i see, new or old, are mostly open sided sheds
06:41:24  <andythenorth> suremill
06:41:47  <andythenorth> I should just repaint the ogfx one?
06:42:01  <supermop> mostly seems to be a shed roof over a line of rollers and a big saw
06:42:02  * andythenorth was thinking to maybe draw the saw or something
06:42:08  <andythenorth> or animate some logs
06:42:12  * andythenorth would regret that
06:42:19  <supermop> yeah i think saw and log roller looks neat
06:42:39  <supermop> default one has too many buildings?
06:42:50  <andythenorth> bit busy
06:42:55  <andythenorth> I like the mixed-up layout
06:42:58  <supermop> too bulky at least
06:43:04  <andythenorth> don’t get any sense of chopping wood
06:43:36  <andythenorth> https://az95169.vo.msecnd.net/images/faller/large/L222181.jpg
06:43:39  <andythenorth> https://az95169.vo.msecnd.net/images/faller/alt/232248/232248_fg_01.jpg
06:43:42  <andythenorth> http://www.dcctrainautomation.co.uk/train-automation/130229_fg_01.jpg
06:44:04  <andythenorth> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FvvfUlf6L.jpg
06:44:57  <supermop> somethiwhatever this log machine is: http://www.linck.com/Bilddatenbank/Presseberichte/LESBATS_Hz46-2012/format1/2.jpgng like a
06:45:37  <supermop> http://www.perditaphillips.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/k14_700.jpg
06:47:04  <supermop> http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base_images/zp/portable_sawmill_height_issues_3.jpg
06:50:28  <supermop> any good space population town sets?
06:50:51  <supermop> .se houses gives too many passengers for the type of game i feel like playing
07:05:52  <andythenorth> water-based sawmill? o_O
07:06:36  <andythenorth> http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000CF_as9GgWSc/s/750/750/McLean-Mill-Sawmill-VIS-1460.jpg
07:09:38  * andythenorth must to motorway
07:09:43  <andythenorth> bank holiday weekend trips
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08:33:21  <Wolf01> moin
08:39:32  <Alberth> moin
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10:16:01  <Pikka> boin
10:16:08  <andythenorth> boink
10:16:41  <Pikka> probably
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10:22:23  <andythenorth> I’m not sure
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12:32:39  <andythenorth> sawmill: http://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2011/02/25/hull-oakes-sawmill/
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12:51:58  <andythenorth> it is FIRS requests season
12:52:03  <andythenorth> what larks
12:55:41  <Alberth> nice web page!
12:56:08  <andythenorth> interesting
12:56:14  * andythenorth has been learning about sawmills
12:56:22  <andythenorth> easier to draw things when you know what they do
12:56:43  <Alberth> it had more details than I expected
12:57:01  <Alberth> and steam powered :)
12:57:05  <andythenorth> yes
12:57:14  <andythenorth> I assumed one big saw, chop the log, done
12:57:49  <Alberth> sort of, at a high enough abstraction level :)
12:58:32  <Alberth> but openttd sawmills are missing a big pond for the logs
12:59:35  <andythenorth> well
12:59:40  <andythenorth> I considered it
12:59:53  <andythenorth> needs base set water though
13:00:04  <andythenorth> thought about locating them on coasts
13:00:06  <andythenorth> but that’s silly
13:03:16  <Alberth> indeed
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13:37:06  <supermop> need log flume
13:44:44  <andythenorth> need quantised transport
13:44:47  <andythenorth> as a new type
13:45:01  <Alberth> quantum transport :)
13:45:14  <andythenorth> log flume could be a hack on trains, but needs a return path
13:45:38  <Alberth> 90% chance it was transported
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14:33:04  <supermop> flume basically a pipe or conveyor
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15:25:06  <andythenorth> hmm
15:25:08  <andythenorth> Recyclables
15:25:09  <andythenorth> cargo_classes = 'bitmask(CC_PIECE_GOODS, CC_COVERED)',
15:25:12  <andythenorth> seems dubious
15:25:45  <andythenorth> cargo was created by copying from file for Wool; looks like a failure to set the classes at the time
15:28:55  <Alberth> there are no doubt piece goods that are recyclable :)
15:30:24  <Alberth> nasa has a few rocket parts you may want to use :)
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15:49:36  * andythenorth wonders what classes is should be
15:49:45  <andythenorth> covered looks superfluous :P
15:52:19  <andythenorth> Bulk, Piece Goods, Non-Pourable?
15:52:36  <andythenorth> maybe just Bulk, Piece Goods
15:59:22  <andythenorth> done
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16:22:52  <Alberth> simpler is better :)
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16:55:12  <andythenorth> saturday cat
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19:00:37  <V453000> frosch123: it looks like no desyncs yet since yesterday :) thanks so much
19:03:51  <frosch123> yay :)
19:03:58  <frosch123> so i can break the next thing
19:04:23  <Alberth> like nml? :)
19:07:25  <Alberth> frosch123: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1149583#p1149583   https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p930m0ow9
19:07:38  <Alberth> I don't have a test case
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19:30:00  <frosch123> oh :p
19:30:35  <frosch123> so, getbits never worked
19:33:15  <andythenorth> nobody noticed
19:33:51  <frosch123> Alberth: i implemented it with copy&paste, i can fix it with copy&paste :p
19:34:16  <Alberth> go ahead
19:35:15  <andythenorth> :)
19:36:24  <frosch123> dynamically typed languages :)
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19:40:11  <Alberth> lol  action 5 vs action A  :)
19:42:21  <frosch123> where?
19:42:29  <frosch123> can i vote for one? :p
19:44:14  <Alberth> just reading actions, just read action 5, I thought I understood it. Reading action A, he I already had this????  :)
19:44:18  <Alberth> but not :)
19:46:14  <frosch123> someone followed pc specs in the last 5 years?
19:46:35  <frosch123> i noticed that my computer is 5 years old, but the stats of current pcs look pretty much the same :p
19:48:16  <Taede> memory went up
19:49:01  <andythenorth> :P
19:49:01  <andythenorth> and yet the benchmarks are different
19:49:02  <andythenorth> but there’s no way I’m buying one until the CPU number is higher
19:49:04  <andythenorth> :P
19:49:25  <frosch123> hmm, actually clock rate is back at 3.2ghz again
19:49:29  <frosch123> as in p4 times :p
19:49:55  <frosch123> my current one is at 2.67
19:50:13  <frosch123> but 8gib is pretty much standard now, but i already have that, and no need for even more
19:50:19  <frosch123> 8gib works fine for 3 vms
19:50:54  <frosch123> i guess i look in 5 years again
19:51:01  <Taede> you dont want 32k^2 maps?
19:51:06  <Taede> ;)
19:51:26  <frosch123> no, i am no teenager
19:52:21  <frosch123> ssd is a lot faster now
19:52:37  <andythenorth> frosch123: buy one with more cores
19:52:38  <frosch123> but i compile to ramdisk
19:52:40  <andythenorth> for compiling Iron Horse :P
19:53:10  <Alberth> I think it's hard to get one without multi core
19:53:14  <frosch123> andythenorth: i changed my alias for make to "nice make -j5"
19:53:25  <frosch123> with "nice" it never disrupts my music again
19:53:42  <Alberth> :)
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21:36:48  <Eddi|zuHause> somehow i find none of these songs interesting enough...
21:43:04  <frosch123> are you too old or too young?
21:43:51  <frosch123> i thought everyone votes for australia, just for the lolz
21:48:25  <__ln__> sad how few non-english songs there are
21:53:01  <glx> I count 5
21:53:47  <__ln__> france, romania, spain, italy, .... australia?
21:54:01  <glx> montenegro IIRC
21:54:22  <__ln__> ah, could be, didn't pay attention to that
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22:03:00  <__ln__> do they dub these awkward foreign point announcement moments?
22:03:22  <frosch123> they did 15 years ago
22:03:34  <frosch123> can't tell whether it changed since then
22:03:42  <glx> still 0, we're good :)
22:06:32  <__ln__> do they also dub the part where the number of points is repeated in french?
22:07:28  <frosch123> no, they take that time to comment who is colluding with who
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22:08:04  <glx> and the so surprising votes for russia :)
22:08:47  <Eddi|zuHause> no, there's a commenter, but no dub
22:09:22  <frosch123> wasn't there even a commenter when it was in germany?
22:09:38  <frosch123> like dubbing the german to german?
22:10:08  <frosch123> hmm, maybe main stage wasn't actually german
22:10:30  <Eddi|zuHause> yes. the commenter hasn't changed since i watched it...
22:11:18  <Eddi|zuHause> the votes for russia might not be that suprising, but it was definitely in the top 3 songs this year
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22:12:38  <Eddi|zuHause> the top 3 kinda shape like i expected so far
22:21:07  <__ln__> would it be awkward if austria got 0 points?
22:21:23  <glx> we got 3 by chance
22:21:47  <glx> from armenia
22:23:08  <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't really like the austrian song
22:23:26  <Eddi|zuHause> the fire was a nice gimmick, but that's only secondary...
22:24:05  <__ln__> also, are conchita's appearances censored in russia?
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22:26:22  <Eddi|zuHause> who knows?
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22:40:11  <Eddi|zuHause> "united kingdom is racing far ahead of germany" :p
22:44:18  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: more intestesting: was the armenian song censored in turkey?
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23:13:54  <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: we beat France, that's all we care about ;)
23:14:05  <LordAro> disclaimer: i don't care about it at all
23:14:56  <Eddi|zuHause> LordAro: the german commenter may have had a personal issue with the british song
23:15:10  <Eddi|zuHause> or basically all british songs in the last 20 years or so
23:16:45  <Eddi|zuHause> so UK getting a mindblowing 5 points, while germany getting 0, kind of angered him
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23:42:00  <Wolf01> 'night
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23:54:46  <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: i have a personal issue with the British song too
23:54:51  <LordAro> it's fucking awful :)
23:57:26  <frosch123> imagine you lost a bet, and then have to comment the contest 20 years in a row :p
23:59:45  <LordAro> ouch

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