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00:01:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.185.97] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:06:03 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 00:35:41 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:19:48 *** DDR [~David@S0106001f16aa47bc.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:45:52 *** Pereba [~UserNick@191.248.34.206] has joined #openttd 02:19:24 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p5DE5709C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:22:04 *** Demannu [~Demannu@endor.demannu.com] has joined #openttd 02:25:11 <Demannu> Question about OFS, I'm running a bit of a weird situation. I have several profiles with OpenTTD in it launching dedicated servers from within, with varying configs. In the readme for OFS, it simply says put them in the directory with the executable. On my Ubuntu system, the actual file that launches openttd is found at /usr/games/openttd, however the data files and saves are in /var/www/profiles/$username 02:25:28 <Demannu> It doesn't appear OFS is functional while launching a dedicated server using the -c command 02:25:47 <Demannu> I've put the OFS files in the data file folder, should they be in /usr/games/openttd instead? 02:25:56 <Demannu> Well, /usr/games I suppose would be the directory. 02:28:50 <Demannu> It turns out I'm -that- guy that doesnt properly configure. 02:29:22 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x5d8229e1.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 02:34:27 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:36:23 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@xd9bf0195.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:44:58 <Eddi|zuHause> what exactly is OFS? 03:02:16 <Demannu> It's a wrapper for OpenTTD, I'm attempting to use Soap with it to provide IRC relay 03:02:31 <Demannu> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ofs/repository 03:15:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never seen that before 03:15:42 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, don't put stuff under /usr manually 03:16:11 <Demannu> Yeah, I figured it out. I had somehow not realized it was a true wrapper. 03:45:50 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 03:51:50 <Demannu> Alright, I've got everything configured and discovered that my server isnt opening the admin port 04:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to set a password 04:00:12 <Eddi|zuHause> also, port forwarding and the usual 04:01:02 <Demannu> Already handled, it's on a dedicated box in a colo. I was running netstat -l on the openttd 04:01:25 <Demannu> openttd box* 04:37:42 <Demannu> I'm using the -n option to set a custom port outside of the config. However, it doesn't seem to change the port 04:37:52 <Demannu> I've gotten my previous issue resolved 04:49:24 *** Pikka [~Octomom@203-206-248-154.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:55:32 *** dustinm` [~dustinm`@2607:5300:100:200::160d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC675CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66CB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:02:19 *** supermop [~supermop@d210-49-164-110.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:05:45 *** dustinm` [~dustinm`@2607:5300:100:200::160d] has joined #openttd 05:17:19 *** Pokka [~Octomom@203-206-248-154.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:17:31 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 05:23:18 *** Pikka [~Octomom@203-206-248-154.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:39:56 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:12:07 <supermop> yo 06:14:45 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-145-148.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 06:19:38 <V453000> supz 06:19:53 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:19:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 06:29:29 <andythenorth> o/ 06:33:45 <Eddi|zuHause> supz not dupz? 06:36:00 <V453000> yezs 06:36:47 <Eddi|zuHause> btw, i hate subs. they distract you from what's actually happening on the screen, and make you watch every scene twice 06:51:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 06:54:48 <tokai> Eddi|zuHause: Still not as bad as a crappy dub :) 06:55:37 <Xaroth|Work> Eddi|zuHause: just watch it without subs? 06:58:47 <Eddi|zuHause> tokai: i've seen some really crappy subs 06:59:26 *** shadowalker [~dark@le.shadownet.io] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 06:59:45 <tokai> Eddi|zuHause: yes, I've seen some bad subs too... but nothing compared to dubs which are bad all the time, 100%. :) 07:00:11 <tokai> Once you get used to listen to original audio you can't stand a dub anymore. :) 07:06:27 <planetmaker> moin 07:09:17 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:10:16 *** Pikka [~Octomom@203-206-248-154.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:15:44 *** Pokka [~Octomom@203-206-248-154.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:15:47 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 07:17:43 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has joined #openttd 07:21:49 *** Pereba [~UserNick@191.248.34.206] has quit [Quit: Quit message has been created to spam purpose. True history. (www.adiirc.com)] 07:52:42 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:07:20 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Quit: :q!] 08:18:26 *** Pokka [~Octomom@203-206-248-154.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:24:16 *** Pikka [~Octomom@203-206-248-154.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:36:39 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: so, how long have you looked at the star wars commit log? 08:41:02 <V453000> for a while apparently :P 08:41:49 <planetmaker> for a few commits. When I visited that tab again it was showing about the same ones again, though 08:45:07 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust13.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 09:12:31 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 09:13:06 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust13.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 09:20:55 <Eddi|zuHause> damn, i was ninja'd twice 09:21:31 <Eddi|zuHause> between the first ninja, and the confirmation that i want to post anyway, i was ninja'd again :p 09:22:18 <planetmaker> :P 09:24:06 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 09:27:41 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30:38 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 09:38:19 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48:56 *** tokai 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[~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 12:58:17 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 13:19:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 13:19:38 <andythenorth> @seen DanMacK 13:19:38 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: DanMacK was last seen in #openttd 7 weeks, 3 days, 15 hours, 49 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <DanMacK> Hey all 13:36:57 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 13:58:24 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p5DE5709C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:58:28 <fjb_mobile> Moin 14:04:34 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 14:21:28 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-195-143.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:15 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.126.29] has joined #openttd 14:34:24 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest3708 14:34:25 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p3EE3F9E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:34:26 *** Guest3708 [~frank@p5DE5709C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:33 <Terkhen> hello 14:39:07 <andythenorth> lo Terkhen 14:55:30 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:55:34 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has joined #openttd 15:04:38 *** supermop [~supermop@d210-49-164-110.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:06:50 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@62-78-237-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:07:03 <alluke> HOW TO REMOVE AI FROM GAME 15:07:09 <alluke> im going crazy 15:10:37 *** Pokka [~Octomom@203-206-248-154.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:11:13 <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: go to console, check out "stopai" command. then go to AI settings and set number of competitors to 0 15:11:23 <andythenorth> cd ~ 15:11:27 <andythenorth> rm -r openttd 15:11:36 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: ~ is redundant there 15:12:10 <andythenorth> not on OS X 15:12:20 <Eddi|zuHause> but who uses THAT 15:12:22 <andythenorth> donât nitpick my trolling :( 15:12:33 <andythenorth> Iâm sure alluke uses it 15:48:08 <alluke> rm -rf / works better 15:49:12 <alluke> wow thanks eddi 15:50:43 <alluke> i wonder if that works on apple store xD 15:53:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:53:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:56:43 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.168.252] has joined #openttd 16:03:35 <planetmaker> andythenorth, the ~ is also redundant on my OSXe 16:04:06 * planetmaker further nitpicks the trolling :P 16:05:02 <andythenorth> trolling the trolls :( 16:05:08 <andythenorth> what a terrible place this is 16:10:45 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-103-234.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 16:13:53 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@62-78-237-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:16:53 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 16:16:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:17:35 <Alberth> moin 16:17:46 <andythenorth> o/ 16:21:04 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:27 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.126.29] has joined #openttd 16:28:56 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:12 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x5d8229e1.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Yo.] 16:44:10 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:57:23 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:36:42 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:e189:7d4:5c11:f165] has joined #openttd 17:36:42 *** glx is now known as Guest3722 17:36:42 *** glx_ is now known as glx 17:43:09 *** Guest3722 [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d019067.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 17:53:09 <Alberth> hoi 18:00:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-53-dynamic.117-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:00:24 <Wolf01> hi o/ 18:01:35 <Alberth> hi hi 18:02:13 <frosch123> lo 18:09:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:36 <Wolf01> o/ 18:09:47 <andythenorth> o/ 18:10:43 *** DDR [~David@S0106001f16aa47bc.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 18:14:36 <andythenorth> ho ho ho 18:14:47 <andythenorth> Iron Horse has ridiculous tractive effort settings 18:14:56 <andythenorth> probably 4x reality 18:15:00 <andythenorth> is that a problem? 18:15:12 <Alberth> not to me :) 18:17:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19CD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:17:19 <andythenorth> Alberth: GS has some local storage? Data structures? 18:17:23 * andythenorth should know this :P 18:17:50 <Alberth> objects, instances of your classes :) 18:18:07 <andythenorth> can we track goals already won, and prevent assigning them again? 18:18:16 <Alberth> yes 18:18:22 <andythenorth> I get a significant fraction of repeated goals 18:18:29 <andythenorth> which is nice, because I win with doing nothing 18:18:43 <andythenorth> but my game is starting to get a bit boring now 18:18:46 <Alberth> free goals for the busy bee 18:19:00 <andythenorth> I have a lot of the map connected, so more and more of the goals are repeat :) 18:20:25 <Alberth> script should send in the ufos :) 18:21:41 <Alberth> or automatically remove track older than say 5 year :) 18:22:00 <andythenorth> Bad Bee 18:22:06 <andythenorth> Bad Bee might be quite fun 18:22:37 <Alberth> probably not 18:23:00 <andythenorth> explode industries? 18:23:01 <andythenorth> ho ho 18:23:08 <andythenorth> GS canât _close_ industries 18:23:18 <andythenorth> but can it destroy them? o_O 18:23:45 * andythenorth invents Longshore Drift GS 18:24:01 <andythenorth> it builds an island map, then eats land on one side of the island, and extends it on the other 18:24:06 <andythenorth> Neverending Story GS :P 18:24:15 <Alberth> :) 18:28:55 <frosch123> we need an api to check where the player is looking at 18:29:07 <frosch123> so, the gs can silently remove stuff while noone is looking 18:33:39 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:07 <andythenorth> do we know the viewport co-ordinates and size? 18:41:05 <Alberth> of all clients? now 18:41:08 <Alberth> *no 19:06:48 * andythenorth ponders 19:06:52 <andythenorth> what we need 19:07:12 <andythenorth> is a way to know in advance the things that will, in retrospect, be obvious fallacies 19:08:28 <Alberth> +1 19:11:47 <frosch123> isn't it more useful to know in advane what things won't be fallacies? 19:12:38 <andythenorth> well we could treat them as mutually exclusive sets 19:12:45 <andythenorth> but yes, actually that is the useful info 19:12:58 <frosch123> you mean you want to know about everything :o 19:13:13 <frosch123> poor andy, it's better to not know something 19:13:26 <frosch123> like the bugs in the software of the nuclear plant next door 19:13:39 <andythenorth> maybe a filter :P 19:13:59 <frosch123> nuclear plants lack a chaos monkey 19:14:11 <andythenorth> my friend is a nuclear plant safety engineeer 19:14:15 <andythenorth> and that is all I am saying 19:14:21 <frosch123> you don't know how they behave in case of failure :p 19:14:32 <andythenorth> he is the opposite of a chaos monkey 19:15:02 <andythenorth> specifically the fallacies I would like are: 19:15:10 <andythenorth> - things you do in your marriage 19:15:18 <andythenorth> - design choices for newgrf vehicle sets 19:15:22 <andythenorth> that is enough 19:22:02 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:03 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:05 <V453000> I see andy got to next level of pondering 19:28:33 <Alberth> meta-ponders :) 19:29:30 <Terkhen> good night 19:31:35 <andythenorth> thing is 19:31:51 <andythenorth> designing FIRS economies for âitâs like Britainâ or whatever has worked quite well 19:31:58 <andythenorth> but itâs a crap way to design vehicles sets 19:32:22 <andythenorth> only I wish Iâd remembered the future when I did it :P 19:48:17 <V453000> nuts works? :P 19:59:03 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:03:55 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d019067.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:07:36 <andythenorth> what country is nuts based on? 20:10:15 <Alberth> openttdcoop country 20:18:31 <andythenorth> are trams a first class transport type? 20:18:44 <andythenorth> is it weird to build tram networks, then be forced to rebuild to roads? 20:26:53 <Alberth> gn 20:27:04 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:27:56 <andythenorth> V453000: tell me something about trams? 20:35:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.168.252] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.168.252] has joined #openttd 20:41:39 <Wolf01> 'night 20:41:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:54:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:00:34 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 21:08:36 <argoneus> so this is a slightly offtopic question, but you guys might know 21:08:51 <argoneus> I have a listener class that listens for some events, and an unrelated class that does its stuff with a message queue it has, and I want this event listener to be able to put a message in another class' message queue, is there a neat way to do this or do I need to pass instance/make the queue static? 21:09:07 <argoneus> (with java, but it should be similar in all OO languages) 21:30:45 <Rubidium> as in: <some class> -> <listener class> -> <some other class (not being some class)>? 21:31:06 <Rubidium> or rather: <some class> -> <listener class> -> <some class (the same some class)>? 21:31:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19CD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:33:01 <argoneus> um 21:33:16 <argoneus> <listener> -message-> <some unrelated class with a queue> 21:33:41 <argoneus> I can't think of anything better than instantiating the listener with a queue parameter for constructor 21:33:44 <argoneus> and passing that 21:35:46 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36:34 <Rubidium> me neither, unless you want to effectively make the queue a listener of the listener 21:37:05 <argoneus> it just kinda sucks 21:37:12 <argoneus> because I need to instantiate the listener in a different place to be able to pass it properly 21:37:17 <argoneus> and I need to make a getter for the queue 21:37:20 <argoneus> and blah whatever ;_; 21:37:28 <argoneus> such is life with java 21:37:36 <argoneus> I should probabl sit down and design things before writing crap 21:38:29 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-136-178.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 21:54:09 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 22:02:44 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> is it weird to build tram networks, then be forced to rebuild to roads? <- yes. 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