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00:06:38 *** Nathan1852_ [~Nathan185@p5DC11B8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:09:35 *** Flippy [flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:349:b7b6:5703:edf0] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:20 *** Nathan1852__ [~Nathan185@p5DC11B8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:22:19 <Wolf01> 'night 00:22:23 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:28:30 *** Flippy [flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:349:b7b6:5703:edf0] has joined #openttd 00:49:37 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-71-183-121-153.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:55:40 *** DDR [~David@S0106001f16aa47bc.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:03 *** Nathan1852__ [~Nathan185@p5DC11C87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:12:22 *** Nathan1852_ [~Nathan185@p5DC11B8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:19:13 *** JezK_ [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 01:20:30 *** Nathan1852 [~Nathan185@p5DC11C87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:22:25 *** JezK_ [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [] 01:22:57 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 01:24:55 *** Nathan1852__ [~Nathan185@p5DC11C87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:25:08 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-98-111-253-226.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:30:24 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD4971.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:34:25 *** namad8 [~aaaaa@pool-98-111-253-226.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:36:38 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4971.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:37:18 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-98-111-253-226.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:44:14 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 01:50:17 *** namad8 [~aaaaa@pool-98-111-253-226.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 01:55:51 *** Nathan1852_ [~Nathan185@p5DC11C87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:02:55 *** Nathan1852 [~Nathan185@p5DC11C87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:10:03 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:24:22 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@xd9bf07cb.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 02:31:23 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d02402c.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:05:56 *** Nathan1852_ [~Nathan185@p5DC11C87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:24:21 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:37:49 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 04:15:53 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:53:34 <Ether_Man> I dont understand my trains some times... Single train on a 2+2 track, with X every 20 to allow switching tracks... And the train decides that it wants to change track every single X O_o 04:54:20 <Supercheese> make sure you've signaled symmetrically 04:54:34 <Supercheese> different numbers of signals can have different pathfinder penalties 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4971.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:02 <Ether_Man> Yea both tracks in each direction are exactly the same. Only difference is that the outer tracks have side connections to and from. But it's switching regardless if it's a section of the track that has such a connection or not 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD435E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:00:37 *** DDR [~David@S0106001f16aa47bc.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 05:56:42 <Flygon> Ether_Man 05:56:47 <Flygon> Consider the alternate explanation 05:56:50 <Flygon> Your train driver ia drunk 05:57:02 <Ether_Man> Well the evidence certainly suggests it :) 06:03:21 *** Warrigal [~tswett@192.241.237.138] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:42:26 <V453000> Ether_Man: instead of letting trains X switch tracks everywhere, just make all tracks have their own access to each split 06:42:38 <V453000> once trains join a line, they shoudl stay there, switching just causes jams 06:45:06 <Ether_Man> Not as much as the full stops on the entire line that a breakdown results in... Openttdcoop seem to rarely have breakdowns active, but I do 06:46:58 <V453000> if it was possible through proper servicing to completely avoid breakdowns even if they are on, it would be a sensible feature 06:47:52 <V453000> now it just punishes you no matter what 06:48:20 <Ether_Man> I prefer building networks that look and work more like real networks. And in real networks, you will have random breakdowns regardless of how often you service the vehicles 06:49:17 <V453000> k 06:49:23 <Ether_Man> But each to their own. Different people play for different reasons with different goals 06:51:27 <V453000> sure, I am not saying a thing :) 07:13:44 <peter1138> That's why I play Minecraft in peaceful mode. None of those tedious hostile mobs to get in the way... 07:14:02 <peter1138> They ruin my mining efficiency. 07:14:33 <V453000> minecraft doesnt make any sense either XD 07:16:03 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 07:36:59 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-175-178.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 07:52:20 *** DDR [~David@S0106001f16aa47bc.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:13:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host71-41-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:13:38 <Wolf01> hello o/ 08:18:03 <planetmaker> moin 08:28:31 <Ether_Man> Just have to ask... But https://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:PBS_Basic.png wouldnt that design have potential to cause a disaster while leaving the station? 08:31:47 <V453000> I bet there is some note "do not build this if you can" in the page which linked to this image 08:32:05 <V453000> but for smaller-scale stations it will work fine 08:32:51 <Ether_Man> Well it says it's not ideal yes, but I mean, wouldnt trains crash like, constantly on the way out? 08:33:04 <V453000> trains never crash 08:33:08 <Supercheese> not with path signals 08:33:48 <Ether_Man> Supercheese, except there's only path signal on the way in. Not for leaving the station, so from station, it enters the X without any signals 08:33:57 <Supercheese> when reversing, trains wait for path 08:34:03 <Supercheese> even if no signal is present 08:34:06 <Ether_Man> Ah 08:34:16 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Quit: :q!] 08:35:00 <Supercheese> a good question to ask, some people get confused and may think that "stations have built-in signals" 08:35:22 <Supercheese> it's rather just that whenever a train reverses it re-checks for a free path and waits if one is not available 08:35:31 <Supercheese> you can see this if you manually reverse a train 08:47:02 *** sla_ro|master2 [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 08:51:40 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:13:15 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 09:26:11 * Sacro wants pre/post PBS signals :( 09:29:46 * Ether_Man wants realistic signals. 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to the ottd rts :p 20:38:59 <drac_boy> just wanted to check when I naturally went to search for a factorio grf and noticed it was this instead 20:39:07 <drac_boy> does seem like an interesting game 20:41:03 <drac_boy> and hi eddi 20:49:21 *** Zr40 [~zr40@000128ef.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56:38 <drac_boy> going out for a while now 20:56:41 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 20:59:24 *** sla_ro|master2 [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 21:01:55 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A197E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:18 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:05:46 *** sla_ro|master2 [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 21:14:53 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-175-178.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 21:15:08 *** Suicyder 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