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#openttd 13:33:48 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:37:42 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 13:40:19 *** Zr40 [~zr40@000128ef.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:48:28 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 14:46:56 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 14:47:00 <drac_boy> hi 14:50:34 <drac_boy> any of you here still play with dan or pikka's trains? 14:53:17 <Alberth> that's not unlikely 14:53:23 *** Nathan1852_ [~Nathan185@p5DC11129.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:56:35 <drac_boy> heh. I do kinda still like my old copy of canset for one thing 14:57:45 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 14:58:34 <drac_boy> ukrs is...hmm well..meh lets just say its not bad for pax-only more or less but to our own gameplay styles 15:00:25 *** Nathan1852__ [~Nathan185@p5DC11129.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:44 <Alberth> never played much with such sets, too many engines to choose from 15:06:42 <drac_boy> do you have noexpire in use? 15:10:40 <Alberth> nope, I don't play that long, or I use a set like NUTS that doesn't need it 15:11:40 <drac_boy> oh just wondering because I only see a few engines the whole time 15:12:11 <drac_boy> although the wagons can sometimes be a bit weird such as ukrs not wanting to acknowledge food chains for a few years at least once as an example 15:12:43 <Alberth> too many engines is anything larger than 4-5 or so :) 15:13:35 <Alberth> isn't ukrs older than the new cargoes? 15:13:58 <Alberth> no idea tbh 15:14:05 <drac_boy> well I guess you seem to only want to play 10 years then? 15:14:41 <Alberth> nah, usually 40-50 years 15:15:31 <drac_boy> actually no what I meant more or less was that I could have trains serving a full chain to grow town then for 20+ years you can't even buy any wagons to do the -same- chain at all .. odd gap but its still there even after two revisions ... so meh no comment 15:15:34 <Alberth> by then the map is sufficiently full :) 15:16:30 *** Nathan1852_ is now known as Nathan1852 15:16:38 <Alberth> oh, can be, I typically play with test newgrfs, so pretty much bleeding edge 15:16:57 <Alberth> but not so much, 3-5 games a year or so 15:17:20 <Alberth> and I do mostly industry rather than towns 15:17:59 <drac_boy> for a map smattered with dense spread of towns I still always love japanset but heh :-> 15:18:42 <Alberth> don't think I ever played a game with that 15:21:25 *** roidal [~roland@193-154-143-48.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 15:30:10 <frosch123> drac_boy: iron-horse is a modern set with many vehicles by dan 15:40:33 <drac_boy> hmm that seem somewhat interesting for a grf...if I feel bothered I'll give it a try and see what shows up to start with 15:44:06 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> dibasic.oftc.net quits: drac_boy 15:44:50 <Eddi|zuHause> the words "drac_boy" and "iron-horse" somehow just merged into "dragonhorseboy" on first glance into this channel 15:45:24 *** Netsplit over, joins: drac_boy 15:48:35 *** gelignite [~gelignite@mue-88-130-108-119.dsl.tropolys.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 15:51:13 <Alberth> missing some iron there :) 15:52:05 <drac_boy> ? 15:53:35 <Alberth> no worries, just some name mixup 15:54:16 <drac_boy> heh ok :) 15:55:45 <drac_boy> about trains...my default on temperate tho seem to almost always be dbsetxl...I guess theres something about a short list of wagons with little overlap and the early begin of electric powers 15:56:12 <drac_boy> sometimes never seem to be able to have enough crocodiles yet no funding to source more new ones 15:57:58 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: the "-on" of "iron" is there ;) 15:59:08 <drac_boy> heh? :) 15:59:25 <Alberth> :) 16:00:52 <Alberth> I prefer steam engines, they look much nicer at the tracks 16:01:24 *** Nathan1852_ [~Nathan185@p5DC11129.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:05:19 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> synthon.oftc.net quits: efess, Wolf01, @Rubidium, Vadtec, jinks, gnu_jj_, Flippy, Antheus, Wormnest, funnel, (+61 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 16:08:11 *** Netsplit over, joins: Extrems, innocenat, Flippy, Compu, glevans2, @Belugas, liq3, +tokai, sla_ro|master, Wormnest (+61 more) 16:08:22 *** Nathan1852 [~Nathan185@p5DC11129.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:45 *** Compu [~quassel@2604:6000:120a:8025:c942:39be:1ac0:391c] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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<kant_> Actually I think microeconomics would fit better* 18:44:34 *** kant_ [~kant_@200-97-109-158.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #openttd [Leaving...] 19:02:27 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:02:28 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 19:16:07 <Eddi|zuHause> right. 19:16:11 <Eddi|zuHause> sure. 19:16:14 <Eddi|zuHause> whatever. 19:27:03 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:27:20 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:42:32 *** gelignite [~gelignite@mue-88-130-108-119.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #openttd 20:10:25 *** Pereba [~UserNick@191.250.235.75] has joined #openttd 20:18:10 *** Geth [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18:51 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 20:22:22 *** crabster [~mccrabbym@145.131.157.180] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:23:18 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[~kais58@213.250.187.81.in-addr.arpa] has joined #openttd 21:56:49 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:01:24 *** hehe [~oftc-webi@85-168-39-205.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #openttd 22:01:52 <hehe> If I put non 3*3 roads in a 3*3grid city does that mess up anything 22:02:21 <Eddi|zuHause> no, they are just ignored 22:02:57 <Eddi|zuHause> and the town will try to build parallel roads 22:04:07 <hehe> so it does mess up things 22:04:29 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on what you call a "mess" 22:05:10 <Eddi|zuHause> you can easily use this method to do "avenue" style double roads 22:05:16 <hehe> roads side by side according to your description 22:05:19 <hehe> i guess 22:06:34 <hehe> thats a good point 22:06:36 <ST2> if you have settings to towns build roads, yes 22:06:38 <ST2> if towns not allowed to build them, your layout is what matters :) 22:11:21 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:11:40 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@vadtec.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:12:02 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 22:15:29 *** Nathan1852_ [~Nathan185@p5DC11129.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:43 <Eddi|zuHause> hehe: anyway, if you want to build manual roads, and the town follow them, use "better roads" layout 22:30:28 <hehe> alright 22:30:50 <hehe> but i tried 3*3 grid to have a nice and easy bus station distribution 22:31:10 <Eddi|zuHause> sure, grids have some advantages 22:31:22 <hehe> in a megacity composed of 5 cities, except their grids aren't aligned 22:32:39 <Eddi|zuHause> grids should align 22:32:51 <Eddi|zuHause> unless you do weird stuff 22:33:00 <Eddi|zuHause> or your game is really really old 22:33:27 <hehe> well i put in the cities in a scenario 22:33:44 <Eddi|zuHause> that might be a problem, yes 22:33:55 <Eddi|zuHause> the automatic town placement is done in a way that grid-cities are placed on the grid 22:34:01 <hehe> i supposed the grids are centered around the point i put them at, and i didn't pay attention to that at the time 22:35:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C375.versanet.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:35:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C375.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:42:06 *** hehe [~oftc-webi@85-168-39-205.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:18:09 *** hehe [~oftc-webi@85-168-39-205.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #openttd 23:18:26 <hehe> is it normal for farms to produce little (less than other industries) 23:22:55 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 23:23:46 *** guru3-vp1 [~guru3-vps@109.200.19.187] has joined #openttd 23:28:44 *** guru3-vps [~guru3-vps@109.200.19.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:55 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40:03 *** UukGoblin [~jaa@yatima.uukgoblin.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 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