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06:47:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:48:10 <andythenorth> ho 06:48:15 <andythenorth> conveyors will cover all sins :P 06:48:15 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7461/clay_pit_improved_23.png 06:48:20 <andythenorth> once finished 06:49:51 <__ln__> there's a huge grey arrow floating in the sky 06:50:17 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@ip98-176-6-104.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:51:14 <andythenorth> fuck, must be a bug :o 06:59:05 <peter1138> you're a bug 07:04:21 <andythenorth> harsh 07:04:32 * andythenorth canât handle sledging before the second cup of coffee :( 07:11:53 <planetmaker> moin 07:12:18 <planetmaker> I like that version 07:16:56 <andythenorth> it will work ok 07:17:11 <andythenorth> but Iâll do it better 07:36:37 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:36:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 07:42:34 *** guru3-vp1 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[~kenji@vps.longbowslair.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:58:40 *** Guest1216 [~kenji@vps.longbowslair.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:02:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 09:09:14 <andythenorth> planetmaker: o_O https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7462/clay_pit_improved_24.png 09:12:16 <planetmaker> :) 09:12:54 <planetmaker> the 2nd small hut on the pit border is really good 09:13:10 <planetmaker> or rather 2nd and 3rd with belt 09:13:42 <planetmaker> a definitive win overall over previous iterations 09:14:21 <andythenorth> I am going to swap the positions of the big silo / crusher buildings 09:14:27 <andythenorth> and make one of them smaller 09:16:53 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:17:09 * andythenorth has drawn and deleted a lot of nice pixels for this industry 09:18:56 <Supercheese> Wow, but this latest one is smashingly good 09:19:26 <Supercheese> I love the way CHIPS dirt stations can integrate 09:19:57 <Supercheese> since the dirt now matches more readily 09:29:49 <andythenorth> CHIPS has been the other moving part 09:30:07 <andythenorth> I havenât shown that in the other 23 âimprovedâ screenshots :P 09:30:14 <andythenorth> but I need it to work with CHIPS platforms :P 09:39:57 <andythenorth> âthis improvement brought to you byâŠâ 09:40:00 <andythenorth> 5 second FIRS compiles 09:53:14 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 09:59:23 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i still have 2 problems with that: 09:59:35 <Eddi|zuHause> 1) the conveyor belt should end at the buildings in all layouts 09:59:56 <Eddi|zuHause> 2) the buildings on the SW end stick out like a sore thumb, they should be rotated 10:00:49 <andythenorth> this approach requires sprites to change between layouts 10:00:52 <andythenorth> sprites donât do that 10:01:22 <Eddi|zuHause> just use different tiles for the rotations? 10:01:39 <Eddi|zuHause> one layout uses tiles ABC and the second BCD? 10:02:45 * andythenorth could run the conveyor on all sides 10:02:58 <Eddi|zuHause> drop the layout with buildings on SE side, and have the end of the conveyor belt in a place where it is next to the buldings on SW and NW side 10:03:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. move the NW buildings one tile to the corner 10:03:48 <Eddi|zuHause> and have the SW buildings on that same corner 10:07:34 <andythenorth> drop the SE or SW? 10:07:39 <andythenorth> the SW is the one that looks bad 10:09:22 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i implied that the SW one gets rotated buildings to look better 10:09:27 <andythenorth> nah 10:09:31 <andythenorth> that would need new sprites 10:09:48 <Eddi|zuHause> the old one had rotated buildings? 10:09:55 <andythenorth> Iâm not convinced that layout with the sticking out SW buildings adds more placement options 10:09:57 <andythenorth> and it looks bad 10:10:05 <andythenorth> and variety is pointless if it looks bad 10:18:24 *** VaLeo_q [~Vadym@46.211.203.74] has joined #openttd 10:29:44 * andythenorth deletes that one 10:34:45 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:26 *** Pensacola [~quassel@88.159.51.52] has joined #openttd 11:21:39 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7464/clay_pit_improved_25.png 11:21:51 <andythenorth> the second conveyor conveniently located by the animated bulldozer 11:21:57 <andythenorth> so Iâm calling that serendipity 11:22:51 <planetmaker> :) 11:23:48 <Eddi|zuHause> the fence disappears when a station is placed? 11:23:51 <andythenorth> yes 11:24:09 <andythenorth> thatâs a FIRS feature, which is perhaps a mis-feature at this specific industry 11:24:13 <Eddi|zuHause> what about truck stops? 11:24:22 <andythenorth> yes 11:24:36 <Eddi|zuHause> it's probably alright 11:24:49 <planetmaker> makes sense, I think 11:25:52 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7465/clay_pit_improved_26.png 11:25:53 <Eddi|zuHause> now one small detail left: what's the reason for the different ground tiles between buildings and pit? why not all-dirt or all-grass? 11:26:57 <andythenorth> pit looks weird with dirt edges 11:27:08 <andythenorth> I have been wondering about using a part-grass terrain tile 11:27:09 <andythenorth> but tbh 11:27:15 <andythenorth> then I could delete the conveyors 11:27:22 <andythenorth> they only exist to cover the gap 11:27:56 <andythenorth> I tried buildings on grass, looks stupid 11:28:06 <andythenorth> I tried pit on mud tiles, looks stupid 11:29:00 <Eddi|zuHause> keep the conveyors, they look good 11:29:53 <Eddi|zuHause> although the back conveyor looks a bit odd starting in the water, maybe move it back a few pixels so it starts on the sand 11:31:42 <andythenorth> itâs making a weird angle with the pile 11:31:50 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:51 <V453000> this is quite awesome andy 11:32:14 <andythenorth> is âawesomeâ a synonym for âmassively over-engineeredâ? 11:32:15 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i mean start on the NE beach, away from the pile 11:32:27 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 11:32:32 <andythenorth> (13MB) https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7466/clay_pit_with_conveyors.mov 11:33:31 <V453000> would be great to see some movement on the belts 11:33:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host15-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:34:10 <andythenorth> probably in v3 11:34:12 <andythenorth> can be done 11:34:15 <andythenorth> just alternate pixels 11:34:19 <Wolf01> hihi 11:34:24 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: the crane needs to go up closed, and down open 11:34:42 <andythenorth> for realisms yes 11:34:51 <andythenorth> for not having to draw more sprites, no 11:35:04 <andythenorth> it reverses the sequence currently 11:35:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i think you have skewed optimization goals :p 11:35:15 <andythenorth> also I tried drawing the bucket closed, and it looked like a blob 11:35:48 <Eddi|zuHause> and you need this start/stop animation thing 11:35:59 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 11:35:59 <Eddi|zuHause> permanent animation is annoying 11:36:04 <andythenorth> yes, but eh 11:36:23 <andythenorth> more interestingly, I need to replace the base set sprites for bauxite mine, copper mine, diamond mine and iron ore mine 11:36:32 <andythenorth> which is challenging 11:36:50 <planetmaker> you don't need to replace the sprites but just invent the industries anew. Much easier :P 11:36:58 <andythenorth> replace / draw anew 11:37:10 <andythenorth> improving the opengfx sprites would be the easy route :) 11:37:20 <andythenorth> but the iron ore mine is daft 11:37:33 <andythenorth> deep mines all, or more bloody open pits? 11:39:26 <andythenorth> Danâs mock-up for Bauxite https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7154/Bauxite_mine1.png 11:40:47 <Wolf01> whoa 11:44:11 *** Pensacola [~quassel@88.159.51.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:49:34 <andythenorth> eh, also there is a time window for boosting secondary production by combining input cargos 11:49:40 <andythenorth> FIRS v1 has it as 30 days 11:49:49 <andythenorth> FIRS v2 I set it to 90 days, because I prefer the play style 11:49:54 <planetmaker> wow, that bauxite mine does look quite nice 11:50:08 <andythenorth> is it validly a parameter, or will it just confuse players? 11:50:42 <Wolf01> the clay pit with conveyors look really nice, and i agree with eddi, you need start/stop animation 11:50:45 <planetmaker> 90 days seems nicer... making it a parameter... it's a difficulty setting of sorts. Depends on the hassle you want to go for and how much it is to make it a parameter, I think 11:51:12 <andythenorth> I think the code is easy, but explaining it in action 14 text is harder 11:51:48 <andythenorth> if people want more difficulty they can use SPI 11:51:49 <andythenorth> or ECS 11:51:57 <andythenorth> or it can be a parameter in v3 11:54:35 * andythenorth wonders which forum user will find out that is in fact 90 days, not three months 11:54:47 <andythenorth> and theyâll do it by exhaustive testing, not reading the source :P 11:54:56 <andythenorth> still, nice game they play :) 12:00:18 <planetmaker> :) 12:37:22 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:51:15 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 13:01:05 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.99.21] has joined #openttd 13:04:58 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-173-231.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:11:56 *** VaLeo_q [~Vadym@46.211.203.74] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:36:06 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 13:55:08 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 14:03:49 *** CompuDesktop [~quassel@2604:6000:120a:801d:7423:b745:62e8:3d82] has joined #openttd 14:10:51 *** Compu [~quassel@2604:6000:120a:801d:7423:b745:62e8:3d82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:10:56 *** Wolf03 [~wolf01@host15-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 14:10:56 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest1235 14:10:56 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 14:15:59 *** Wolf03 [~wolf01@host15-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 14:15:59 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest1238 14:15:59 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 14:16:56 *** Guest1235 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:00 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:21:56 *** Guest1238 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:28:26 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 14:34:32 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 14:36:02 <andythenorth> planetmaker: the major problem with bauxite pit is the floor of the pit 14:36:10 <andythenorth> making it not weird 14:36:26 <andythenorth> would it be repeating tiles, because thatâs quite TTD-ish? 14:36:32 <andythenorth> or would it be one huge drawn sprite? 14:36:45 <andythenorth> sprite / piece of art with no repetition /s 14:37:05 <planetmaker> could be both. TTD seems go for the latter, one huge sprite 14:37:21 <andythenorth> for mines yes 14:37:43 <planetmaker> could be several multi-tile sprites which can be re-arranged, as a kind of middle ground, though 14:37:47 <andythenorth> I have been wondering about making a smaller pit, but repeating it 14:37:58 <andythenorth> connected to a processor by conveyors or such 14:38:11 <andythenorth> dunno about trucks, I always think they should be moving 14:38:21 <planetmaker> also, just to warn you: we'll have probably very soon a devzone downtime for maintenance (aka asap). Thus might go down somewhen for short time 14:38:35 <andythenorth> ho ok :) 14:41:21 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:36 <andythenorth> http://media.wirtgen-group.com/media/06_ciber/news_and_pressreleases/2012_bauxite_para/Bauxite_Para_02_880x0.png 14:41:40 <andythenorth> not much to see there :P 14:42:36 *** pm [~planetmak@aeolus.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has joined #openttd 14:42:56 *** pm is now known as Guest1240 14:43:25 *** Osai [~Osai@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:26 *** Ammler [~ammler@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:50 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43:54 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@000128e4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43:58 *** avdg [~avdg@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:58 *** SmatZ [~smatz@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:44:06 *** tneo [~tneo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44:30 *** Hazzard [~Hazzard@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44:38 *** planetmaker is now known as Guest1241 14:44:38 *** Guest1240 is now known as planetmaker 14:44:51 *** Guest1241 [~planetmak@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44:54 *** V453000 [~V453000@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:11 *** Yexo- [~Yexo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:45:13 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:45:15 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@0001612d.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:45:19 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:47:48 <andythenorth> hmm 14:47:58 <andythenorth> also that mockup needs a 5x7 layout 14:48:04 <andythenorth> hard to place 14:48:06 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 14:48:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 14:48:25 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 14:48:34 <Alberth> hihi 14:49:01 <Alberth> your fight with the pits is done? 14:49:06 <andythenorth> for now 14:51:49 <Alberth> ie "normal state" :) 14:53:27 *** Hazzard [~Hazzard@5.9.88.188] has joined #openttd 14:53:41 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:53:41 *** SmatZ [~smatz@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:54:01 * andythenorth has to fight more industries 14:54:07 <andythenorth> but eh, maybe a v2 beta first 14:54:10 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:54:41 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@0001612d.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:54:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o Terkhen] by ChanServ 14:55:02 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@000128e4.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:55:11 *** V453000 [~V453000@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:55:42 *** Yexo [~Yexo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:55:42 *** planetma- [~planetmak@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:55:55 *** tneo [~tneo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:56:21 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@aeolus.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:56:42 *** Osai [~Osai@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:56:42 *** Ammler [~ammler@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:57:04 *** planetma- is now known as planetmaker 14:57:12 *** avdg [~avdg@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:57:42 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 15:02:54 <Alberth> getting some more feedback would be good 15:36:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A184E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:45:57 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:50:05 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:55:12 *** Zr40 [~zr40@000128ef.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:12:06 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:38 <peter1138> that's easy, i just turn the gain up too much 16:23:10 <Alberth> gaining lots of noise then :) 16:23:32 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:28:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6BEEA.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:42:19 <andythenorth> Alberth: eints doesnât handle branches other than default? o_O 16:42:30 <andythenorth> [this would make sense] 16:43:54 <^Spike^> saw eints and thought something broke but that doesn't seem to be the case :D 16:44:18 <Alberth> eints itself doesn't know about branches 16:44:28 <Alberth> it just gets files 16:44:44 <Alberth> maybe the push & pull scripts do something, but not sure 16:45:11 <Alberth> I didn't write those scripts 16:45:11 <andythenorth> Iâm wondering how to get translations in place for FIRS 2.0.0 16:45:20 <andythenorth> possibly I do an alpha, then a beta in the branch 16:45:21 <andythenorth> or so 16:45:27 <andythenorth> then merge to master for an RC 16:45:37 <andythenorth> and let translators work then, before final release 16:46:56 <Alberth> move 2.0 to default? 16:47:32 <Alberth> but really, I have no idea what the push & pull scripts do here 16:51:27 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:51:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:52:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A184E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29:21 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:33:47 *** gelignite [~gelignite@mue-88-130-89-254.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #openttd 17:37:42 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:29 *** Pensacola [~quassel@88.159.51.52] has joined #openttd 17:47:13 <andythenorth> eh come on compile farm 17:47:15 <andythenorth> go faster 17:47:38 <Alberth> :) 17:47:55 <andythenorth> I want $someone to proof-read the changelog 17:48:25 * andythenorth has to be patient :P 17:48:31 <Alberth> and a faster compile farm helps there? :) 17:49:05 <andythenorth> waiting for the html docs to be built 17:49:10 <andythenorth> reading the raw source is uglier 17:50:41 <andythenorth> wow compile farm builds FIRS slowly :o 17:50:48 <Alberth> depending on the layout, that can be ugly indeed 17:51:17 <Alberth> it's so good, it takes longer to appreciate all the worl 17:51:19 <Alberth> *work 17:51:20 <andythenorth> â6 min 53 sec and countingâ 17:51:34 <Alberth> :) 17:51:52 <Alberth> eints is clearly just crap, it needs only 18 seconds or so :) 17:52:03 * andythenorth got bored waiting 17:52:04 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/entry/src/docs_templates/changelog.pt 17:52:42 <Alberth> :) 17:52:47 <Alberth> I'll have a look 17:52:55 <andythenorth> thanks :) 17:53:02 * andythenorth wonders if jenkins is stuck 17:56:40 <Alberth> probably V is keeping it busy :p 17:58:17 <Alberth> initial uppercase for all the items? 18:00:19 <Alberth> full firs economy is not default any more? 18:02:11 <andythenorth> I think it is 18:02:13 * andythenorth checks 18:02:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f747ede.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 18:03:00 <andythenorth> Full Firs is still default :) 18:03:07 <andythenorth> the order of that changelog is dubious 18:03:13 <Alberth> quite :) 18:03:23 <frosch123> hola hi hoi 18:03:25 <andythenorth> ah the pretty version http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/changelog.html 18:03:29 <andythenorth> ho hi frosch123 18:03:47 <Alberth> I'd shuffle the entries so the same kinds of entries are near each other 18:03:50 <Alberth> hi hi frosch123 18:03:52 <andythenorth> +1 18:06:38 <andythenorth> so in the final analysis, is the Quarry now better? 18:06:41 <andythenorth> current: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7464/clay_pit_improved_25.png 18:06:48 <andythenorth> previous: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/static/img/industries/quarry.png 18:07:19 <andythenorth> wouldnât be the first time the changed version is worse than the original :) 18:09:59 <V453000> I love how the edge is not uniform width andythenorth 18:10:07 <V453000> really sells that it is jut wet/mud edge 18:10:18 <Alberth> current is better, imho 18:10:42 <Alberth> the green grass looks more in place with the buildings in some way 18:14:19 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:16:47 *** Extrems [super@presper.ipv6.extremscorner.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:31 *** Extrems [super@presper.ipv6.extremscorner.org] has joined #openttd 18:18:43 <Alberth> andythenorth: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pxk6oyuuy 18:19:46 <andythenorth> embarassingly, your English is better than mine :| 18:21:13 <andythenorth> Iâll add that patch, thanks 18:22:45 <Alberth> ha, I had that experience with a colleague from work with Dutch, she knew all about grammar, while I just do things on feeling 18:23:14 <Alberth> some things are suggestions 18:24:13 <Alberth> mostly the "<--" things need some thinking perhaps :) 18:26:30 <planetmaker> holla :) 18:28:51 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:29:05 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:32:45 * andythenorth watches Jenkins again 18:33:01 *** juzza1 [~juzza1@0001bead.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:33:18 <Alberth> hi hi planetmaker 18:35:06 <Taede> ello 18:35:12 *** Progman [~progman@p57A184E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:37:23 *** juzza1 [~juzza1@0001bead.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:40:04 <andythenorth> fixed http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/changelog.html 18:42:04 <frosch123> yay, christmas advertising 18:42:31 <Alberth> :) 18:42:55 <andythenorth> hmm 18:42:58 <andythenorth> Christmas FIRS 18:43:44 <Alberth> looks good, andy 18:44:04 <Wolf01> \o/ 18:44:44 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 18:48:24 <andythenorth> eh before I make a bananas mistake... 18:48:31 <andythenorth> I have tagged FIRS 2.0.0-alpha 18:48:42 <andythenorth> it has the same grfid as FIRS 1.x 18:48:54 <andythenorth> I am planning to upload it to bananas, set to nightly openttd >= 27280 18:49:08 <andythenorth> (requires increased industry limit) 18:49:13 <andythenorth> is this a viable plan? 18:50:12 <Wolf01> yay 453MiB of grf upgrades to download 18:51:02 <Wolf01> i think i'll need to cleanup my install folder 18:51:29 <Wolf01> get rid of everything and keep just the 2 or 3 grfs i really need 18:51:48 <Wolf01> like pineapple, zbase... oh wait 18:53:26 <Alberth> you can safely keep everything else as well, you won't notice the difference :) 18:53:40 <Wolf01> that was the point 18:53:42 <andythenorth> oh 18:53:44 <andythenorth> bananas 18:53:45 <andythenorth> https://bananas.openttd.org/en/manager/update/3644 18:54:14 <andythenorth> is a âbroken in productionâ 18:54:29 <andythenorth> also the edit view 18:54:38 <andythenorth> and âadd new' 18:54:47 <andythenorth> lawks 18:54:48 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@72.1.195.4] has joined #openttd 18:54:50 <drac_boy> hi 18:55:17 <andythenorth> Unhandled Exception 18:55:17 <andythenorth> An unhandled exception was thrown by the application. 18:55:32 <andythenorth> there is probably a long forum thread about this, and I am late to the party? 18:55:41 <frosch123> yup 18:55:49 <Alberth> not very long, but yeah 18:55:50 <frosch123> the answer is: use musa 18:56:04 <frosch123> Alberth: there are also like 2 fs tasks and some irc conversions :p 18:56:24 <Alberth> ah, it's distributed :) 18:56:28 <drac_boy> musa? 18:57:05 <andythenorth> ach 18:57:15 <Alberth> drac_boy: Python program that prepares your upload, and checks for silly mistakes and such 18:57:22 <frosch123> drac_boy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musa_%28genus%29 18:57:41 <drac_boy> ah ok alberth 18:57:43 <andythenorth> I donât have musa and I *do* have to make dinner :| 18:57:57 <andythenorth> can anyone upload FIRS 2.0.0-alpha to the coop account? 18:58:05 <andythenorth> nightly openttd >= 27280 18:59:49 <andythenorth> hmm jenkins hasnât built the tag yet 18:59:50 <andythenorth> nvm 19:00:10 <drac_boy> heh going from firs1 to firs2? 19:00:12 <andythenorth> oh it had no changes 19:00:29 <andythenorth> yak-shaving :P 19:02:45 <drac_boy> so why going to 2 then? ;) 19:02:59 <Alberth> 1 was already used 19:03:13 <andythenorth> yair 19:03:17 <frosch123> if there is nothing new, you have to at least use a new version number 19:03:18 <andythenorth> 1 has been done 19:03:24 <andythenorth> 1 is old news 19:03:30 <andythenorth> this yearâs number is 2 19:03:32 <Alberth> and 0 was silly 19:03:38 <andythenorth> rubbish also 19:03:45 <andythenorth> could have gone to 3 19:03:50 <andythenorth> that would have raised the game 19:03:51 <drac_boy> well if its 2 then what is new? 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