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And a normal way to work with a repo 07:15:50 <andythenorth> I know the repo will handle it 07:16:23 <andythenorth> but wonât it look odd that the history of the release is 1.4.4 -> 2.0.0-alpha -> 2.0.0-beta -> 1.4.5 07:16:24 <andythenorth> ? 07:16:40 * andythenorth is confused tbh 07:17:38 <planetmaker> andythenorth, no. And tbh, look at NML repo. It has the same :) 07:17:56 <planetmaker> I made 0.3.x and 0.2.x releases on the same hour actually 07:20:50 <andythenorth> so what happens to people who have 2.0.0-alpha or beta? 07:20:59 <andythenorth> theyâll be offered 1.4.5 as an upgrade 07:21:10 <andythenorth> which breaks their saves 07:21:32 <planetmaker> no savegame will be broken 07:21:58 <andythenorth> ok, so if you already had 2.0.0-alpha release, that stays 07:22:00 <andythenorth> nothing breaks 07:22:10 <andythenorth> but you wouldnât be able to obtain 2.0.0-alphas 07:22:14 <andythenorth> etc 07:22:15 <andythenorth> ok 07:22:22 <andythenorth> tbh 07:22:24 <planetmaker> hm... but maybe they'll get it offered as upgrade. but not for existing savegames 07:22:45 <planetmaker> dunno how the internal newgrf version is handled... probably just date, right? 07:22:46 <andythenorth> I didnât understand this when releasing FIRS 2, which caused broken 07:22:52 <andythenorth> I have no better understanding now 07:23:05 <andythenorth> so my inclination is to do nothing 07:23:26 <andythenorth> if Iâve learnt any lessons about engineering, itâs not to poke twicce without understanding what the mistake was the first time 07:23:41 <andythenorth> mess compounding mess 07:23:48 <planetmaker> probably 'nothing' is even the best path of progression for 1.5.x users 07:27:22 * andythenorth ponders. What happes if I want to join a server using FIRS 1.4.4 and I donât have that grf? 07:28:14 <planetmaker> you get it from bananas 07:28:29 <planetmaker> you *always* get the version you need for a savegame. Whatever OpenTTD version you have 07:28:38 <planetmaker> and servers == savegame for this matter 07:29:03 <planetmaker> and also whatever you set in the settings of the NewGRF. Savegame requiring it overrules it all. 07:33:53 <andythenorth> ok thanks 07:33:59 <andythenorth> the âuse a new grfidâ ideas seem bad 07:34:02 <andythenorth> dunno why though 07:34:14 *** Zyme [~oftc-webi@78-70-242-79-no186.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 07:34:15 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d08e459.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 07:34:42 <Zyme> does anyone want to play co-op with FIRS and hardmode? a bit more casual, regular longterm play to make a massive complex network 07:38:34 <andythenorth> Zyme: try openttdcoop? o_O 07:38:55 <andythenorth> http://www.openttdcoop.org 07:39:02 <andythenorth> maybe you knew that already :) 07:39:39 <Zyme> but they are pros 07:39:46 <V453000> no they arent 07:39:55 <V453000> and in fact, FIRS 2 is on public server right now 07:40:10 <V453000> idk what hardmode is 07:41:37 <Zyme> this client basically: https://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/wiki/server2#wiki_joining_instructions 07:43:09 <andythenorth> âprosâ :) 07:43:10 <andythenorth> ha 07:43:18 <andythenorth> they just obsess about train length mostly 07:44:34 <Zyme> I want to have fun and not be OCD, but at the same time build a complex network, but I don't really feel like doing it by myself :P 07:47:45 <V453000> the public is a good place to start .) 07:48:29 <Zyme> people just want to compete :P 07:48:37 <Supercheese> I like Reddit server2, I had a fun game on there before 07:48:56 <Supercheese> was my first time trying a Citybuilder script 07:49:45 <Zyme> its fun yeah but no co-op 07:52:31 <V453000> competing in openttd is kind of pointless :) 08:29:57 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:30:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 08:36:23 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:49:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 09:01:53 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Quit: :q!] 09:05:55 *** Pensacola [~quassel@88.159.51.52] has joined #openttd 09:13:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 09:25:21 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:29:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 10:11:06 <peter1138> andythenorth, yes, train length and signal spacing (always block) are of course the most important part of the game. 10:11:48 <andythenorth> I like the farm fields 10:11:50 <andythenorth> so pretty 10:11:56 <andythenorth> and they change, with the seasons 10:12:04 <andythenorth> or according to random process 10:12:08 <andythenorth> either way 10:12:48 <peter1138> Imagine an infinite world MMO version of openttd, all with trains of 3 tiles long and signals on every tile. 10:13:02 <andythenorth> would be best if it was flat 10:13:18 <peter1138> yes, no obstructions, no pesky towns in the way, and no competition. 10:13:28 <peter1138> trees, they're not needed. 10:13:37 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> then do a 1.4.5 tag with no changes, and put that on bananas <-- i would not bother with that... 10:14:44 <Eddi|zuHause> either you get someone to extend bananas to have more than one "newest" version, or you live with the fact that people can't get FIRS for half a year. 10:16:11 <Eddi|zuHause> actually, there may be a way to force availability through some dependency stuff. i've seen things available in multiple versions because some addon grf stated that it required the older version 10:16:12 <andythenorth> whatâs the downside of splitting the grfid? 10:16:22 <andythenorth> I donât like splitting grfid, but canât remember why 10:16:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host125-136-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:16:44 <Wolf01> hi hi 10:16:50 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: people won't get the update if they go on bananas and tick "get all updates" 10:17:20 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: and you need to extend compatibility bullshit, because people can add both GRFs to the same game 10:17:26 <andythenorth> yeah 10:17:44 <andythenorth> fun bugs 10:17:46 <andythenorth> for fun 10:17:54 <andythenorth> and broken update chain 10:17:58 <peter1138> just reserve a block of grfids and then disable stuff 10:18:09 <andythenorth> I would like 1 million please 10:18:14 <peter1138> don't ask, just do it 10:18:18 <peter1138> and don't tell anyone 10:18:26 <peter1138> and think people will care 10:18:29 <andythenorth> can I rage quit? 10:18:51 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but only if you replace all your existing posts with "..." 10:19:06 <andythenorth> can someone (not me) compile FIRS 1.4.5 with a different grfid, and release it to Bananas as âStolen FIRSâ? 10:19:16 <andythenorth> it would be a nice conflation with Stolen Trees 10:19:20 *** roidal [~roland@193-154-143-216.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 10:22:22 <andythenorth> ⊠10:22:58 <andythenorth> fwiw, I donât care either way whether FIRS is available for 1.5.x users, I just donât like that I made a mistake :x 10:23:27 <V453000> XD 10:23:33 <V453000> great logic 10:24:03 <andythenorth> nobody uses FIRS anyway 10:25:11 <planetmaker> andythenorth, you did not do a mistake (I think) 10:28:36 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: the thing with jokes like "Stolen FIRS" is that they get old pretty quick, and then you sit here in three years asking "why the hell did i do this?" 10:30:40 <V453000> bananas should offer the "last compatible" version of newgrfs imo 10:31:48 <planetmaker> yes, it should 10:31:58 <planetmaker> maybe andy can work on changing bananas accordingly? :) 10:32:24 <V453000> andy should do everything 10:32:32 <V453000> roadtypes go 10:48:06 <andythenorth> andythenorth is busy eating Skyr 10:48:24 <andythenorth> âIcelandic styleâ yoghurt, made in Germany 10:48:48 <andythenorth> V453000: do you want me to finish RAWR and whatnot? 10:49:58 <V453000> sure 10:50:01 <V453000> want full source? 10:50:14 <V453000> ready for 12849 GB? :P 10:51:47 <andythenorth> nah, no space on my SSD 10:51:53 <andythenorth> sorry :) 10:52:12 * andythenorth counts remaining active contributors 10:52:19 <andythenorth> on fingers 10:52:25 <andythenorth> not down to one hand yet 10:52:29 <V453000> 0? 10:54:10 <andythenorth> 4 OpenTTD committers, one sysadmin, one NoAI/GS, a handful of remaining newgrf authors capable of releasing a finished playable set 10:54:18 <andythenorth> still needs two hands 10:55:07 <andythenorth> :) 10:55:38 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you know that "<whatever> style" is a euphemism for "knockoff"? 10:56:09 <Eddi|zuHause> "Schnitzel Wiener Art" vs. "Wiener Schnitzel" 10:56:44 <Eddi|zuHause> now i'm hungry... 10:56:48 <andythenorth> âFIRS is TTD-style graphics" 10:57:44 * andythenorth eats a banana 10:57:57 <andythenorth> then ham, bread, cheese, tomato, cucumber after that 10:58:01 <andythenorth> then some crisps 10:58:03 <andythenorth> and coffee 10:58:09 <andythenorth> still hungry? o_O 10:59:00 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 10:59:45 <Eddi|zuHause> if you scratch the cheese (unless it's baked), and the coffee... 11:00:18 <Eddi|zuHause> a cordon bleu would be lovely... 11:00:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not actually sure what a cordon is, and why it's blue... 11:01:54 <SpComb> gordon blue 11:02:04 <peter1138> blue ribbon 11:02:42 <Eddi|zuHause> then, what does that have to do with schnitzel? 11:04:40 <peter1138> no idea, we don't use the word schitzel 11:05:22 <V453000> sauerkraut blitzkrieg 11:06:19 <Eddi|zuHause> your german has detoriated since we last met, i think :p 11:09:19 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: i think his name was gordon brown :p 11:09:19 <V453000> xd 11:30:41 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:18 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 11:36:00 *** openbu [~openbu@222.172.187.148] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:09:23 *** DDR [~David@S0106001f16aa47bc.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:28:26 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:27 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:34:00 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 13:00:30 *** Geth [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 13:05:03 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:14:57 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 13:37:05 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.115.178] has joined #openttd 13:42:42 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 13:59:13 *** TheMask96- [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:06:13 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:10:36 *** TheMask96- [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:36 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:17:46 *** DanMacK [~3fee8a84@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:27:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A524.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:32:27 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:40 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 14:59:11 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 14:59:14 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:00:45 *** Pensacola [~quassel@88.159.51.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16:52 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-74.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 15:20:16 *** jjavah0lic [~jjavah0li@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:46 *** jjavah0lic [~jjavah0li@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 15:28:17 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 15:43:07 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 15:43:44 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 15:44:07 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:45:34 *** jinks [~jinks@77-114-251-162-static.reverse.queryfoundry.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:56 <Sylf> Is there a way to change Bananas so it'll make firs 1.X to stable client? Can I volunteer to help? 15:50:07 <andythenorth> frosch packaged bananas and such onto a VM image so that it could be developed on 15:50:19 <andythenorth> ask when he arrives? ;) 15:50:25 <andythenorth> maybe thereâs a repo 15:50:26 * andythenorth looks 15:50:44 <andythenorth> http://git.openttd.org/?p=extra/website.git;a=tree 15:51:50 <andythenorth> I donât know how the OpenTTD client talks to bananas though 15:52:04 <andythenorth> Iâve skimmed that repo, it _looks_ like admin UI code 15:52:07 <Alberth> one bit at a time 15:52:26 <andythenorth> the code for returning content to OpenTTD client might be in there somewhere 15:53:31 <Rubidium> msu 15:53:34 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 15:53:49 <andythenorth> ? http://git.openttd.org/?p=extra/masterserver_updater.git;a=tree 15:54:44 <Alberth> that name sounds like the part that copies stuff to the mirrors 16:00:09 <andythenorth> hmm 16:00:15 * andythenorth is baffleds 16:00:26 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:01:01 <Alberth> more than one time even, apparently 16:01:39 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 16:01:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 16:05:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A183FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:06:04 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:06:53 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-74.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:28 *** jinks [~jinks@2602:ffe8:102:213::1c:34ac] has joined #openttd 16:29:05 <Wolf01> http://c1.staticflickr.com/1/655/20688748593_a84350ac23_c.jpg mmh this makes me sick 16:29:37 <Wolf01> but it's indeed a good piece of art 16:30:09 <Alberth> it definitely looks great 16:31:01 <andythenorth> ha ha 16:31:04 <Alberth> it may not be designed to drive around :) 16:31:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:43:51 *** jjavah0lic [~jjavah0li@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:45:38 <__ln__> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10277101 16:48:21 <Wolf01> is there a relevant part or we must read everything? 16:49:05 <__ln__> read the pdf linked to at the top 16:57:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A183FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59:39 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:59:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:07:57 <Wolf01> lol, they rewrote anything, but hey: http://delta-associates.com/wp-content/uploads/DOHP-Main-Image-Wheel.jpg 17:09:57 <lastmikoi> that mindset makes me a bit sick... 17:12:14 <Wolf01> "// Hack to support launch, will fix next week" ahah, who does not have a comment like this buried in code... and written ages ago 17:13:46 <lastmikoi> people without silly deadlines. 17:15:53 <Wolf01> so, long story short, he fucked up his own account 17:16:38 <Alberth> :) 17:16:49 <lastmikoi> long story short, they lack a staging environment 17:17:24 <lastmikoi> which is very odd. 17:24:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:33:11 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38:37 *** Cybert1nus is now known as Cybertinus 17:38:43 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d08e459.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:50:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f747da6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 17:55:50 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-179.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 18:18:28 <andythenorth> quak 18:18:46 <frosch123> hoi 18:19:31 <Wolf01> o/ 18:22:56 *** DanMacK [~3fee8a84@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:32:54 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 18:34:29 <andythenorth> so the next version of Iron Horse breaks saves completely, and needs beta testing 18:34:39 <andythenorth> so I should go back to releasing test grfs on forums? 18:34:57 <andythenorth> it was decided some years ago that was a bad pattern and should stop 18:35:19 <andythenorth> but the bananas route doesnât handle major version changes at all 18:35:24 <Wolf01> release it on bananas as "stolen iron horse" 18:36:17 <andythenorth> stolen fish 18:36:36 <andythenorth> why donât we change grfids any more? 18:36:44 * andythenorth is in world of puzzle :) 18:36:52 *** urdh [~urdh@00013d7a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:42:30 <andythenorth> ha 18:43:34 <andythenorth> could the road vehicle pathfinder be weighted to avoid traffic? 18:43:51 <andythenorth> if there are two equal edges between current node and next node? 18:44:07 <andythenorth> or is that too computationally demanding? 18:44:50 <frosch123> it does that for roadstops, but for regular road tiles there is no good method to track whether there are vehicles 18:45:16 <blathijs> The train pathfinder already does that (or at least, NPF does) 18:45:34 <frosch123> yes, but for trains it is easier, especially since pbs reservations 18:45:44 <andythenorth> I can understand the problem 18:45:45 <andythenorth> nvm 18:46:10 <andythenorth> the âproblemâ is that andythenorth is too lazy to build and signal train routes 18:46:17 <andythenorth> so spams a lot of RVs 18:46:27 <andythenorth> also pikkaâs AI keeps building the roads I need for me 18:46:29 <andythenorth> so why not? 18:47:03 <andythenorth> it leads to boring set design though, because I make everything in Road Hog the same speed per generation 18:47:12 <andythenorth> and all types have new generations introduced at the same time 18:48:11 *** urdh [~urdh@00013d7a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:05 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 19:01:53 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 19:02:19 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71.12.36.79] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:13:33 <andythenorth> wow 19:13:44 <andythenorth> pikkaâs AI has grown a 30k popn town, with just a few buses :P 19:14:25 <Alberth> 4 buses and patience is sufficient afaik 19:16:45 <frosch123> 1 bus is enough 19:25:32 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:29:54 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-179.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:31:53 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 19:58:23 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 19:58:24 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:00:13 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:28:56 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:32:09 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> could the road vehicle pathfinder be weighted to avoid traffic? <-- iirc there was a patch about that 20:32:57 <Eddi|zuHause> the problem is, trains do this by signal states and track reservation, neither of which works for roads 20:33:16 <Eddi|zuHause> track reservation somewhat assumes that only one vehicle is on that track 20:34:05 <Eddi|zuHause> two trains on the same trackbit is really tricky to achieve, but it happens all the time for road vehicles 20:34:59 <Eddi|zuHause> so for road you rather need a reservation counter, but road tiles are some of the most stuffed tiles in the game 20:42:41 *** roidal [~roland@193-154-143-216.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 20:45:35 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f747da6.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:53:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A183FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:54:26 *** gelignite [~gelignite@mue-88-130-81-052.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #openttd 21:08:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A183FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:42 *** Geth [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:22:10 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d08e459.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 22:40:58 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 22:46:00 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:52:31 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:54:11 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 23:01:50 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:20:13 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d08e459.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:24 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd