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00:20:15  <Alaura> /!load Soap Error: No module named libottdadmin2.enums Is there a fix for this?
00:23:21  <FLHerne> Alaura: Not enough context
00:23:39  <Alaura> this is supyrbot
00:23:53  <Alaura> i was trying to load the module soap, that openttd uses to communicate from the irc
00:23:55  <Alaura> to the game
00:24:00  <Alaura> and i got that error
00:24:36  <FLHerne> Did you install libottdadmin2?
00:24:56  <Alaura> Is it a package?
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00:26:42  <Sylf> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/soap/repository/entry/README.txt
00:26:48  <Sylf> did you read the readme?
00:27:35  <Alaura> Yea
00:27:38  <Alaura> I just installed
00:27:39  <Alaura> thank you
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00:30:25  <Alaura> Hmm Sylf and FLHerne i did that, and im still getting the error
00:30:42  <Alaura> It says it installed and then finished processing the dependancies
00:30:42  <Alaura> so
00:35:17  <Eddi|zuHause> have you tried turning it off and on again?
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00:36:10  <Alaura> wait, would that work?
01:41:13  <Eddi|zuHause> ... only one way to find out.
02:08:40  <Alaura> I did
02:08:50  <Alaura> but now when i try to connect, it gives "Connecting..."
02:08:52  <Alaura> and then nada
02:09:47  <Eddi|zuHause> then probably the port is not open
02:10:01  <Eddi|zuHause> or you didn't set up a password
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09:37:06  <V453000> lol a wiki how to build realistically
09:37:10  <V453000> this gave me cancer
09:39:29  <Eddi|zuHause> tss :p
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11:02:45  <andythenorth> hmm
11:02:47  <andythenorth> RVs
11:02:54  <andythenorth> TE coefficient of 0.3 is
.low
11:03:01  * andythenorth has been using google
11:22:36  <peter1138> very low, they have rubber tyres.
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11:23:10  <Wolf01> o/
11:25:01  <andythenorth> googley-woogle suggests 0.4-0.8
11:25:05  <andythenorth> for rubber on concrete
11:25:39  <Eddi|zuHause> my table says 0,8 (dry) and 0,5 (wet)
11:26:34  <Eddi|zuHause> so just use 0,8
11:28:06  <andythenorth> never rains in TTD
11:28:09  <Eddi|zuHause> the 0,3 for trains is also on the upper end of the spectrum
11:28:19  <Eddi|zuHause> steel-on-steel is more like 0,15
11:28:26  <Eddi|zuHause> the 0,3 is with sand
11:28:32  <andythenorth> it’s ok, at TTD scale, they have rubber traction tyres
11:28:36  <andythenorth> like all toy trains
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12:09:03  <Wolf01> mmmh it looks like there's not an easy way to convert images
12:09:29  <Wolf01> the bmp is 24bpp and i need a 8bpp :P
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12:15:14  <Wolf01> also saving it as 8bpp and removing headers doesn't work :/
12:22:14  <_dp_> bmp can be 8bpp, are you sure you're cutting headers correctly?
12:22:41  <_dp_> there also can be pallette info before image, don't think grayscale bmps include it though
12:23:07  <_dp_> btw, if you do some regular pattern in bmp it will be visible even in binary, makes it easier to debug
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12:25:27  <Wolf01> the problem is that every thing it loads is too short for the byte[] i need
12:25:38  <Wolf01> the size must be 160*43*4
12:25:53  <Wolf01> and i don't know where the 4 comes from
12:26:00  <Wolf01> maybe they rolled a dice
12:26:28  <_dp_> *4 sounds like 32bpp
12:28:05  <_dp_> it's rare for bmp but can be done too, photoshop or gimp can save those iirc, ARGB or RGBA format
12:28:14  <Wolf01> bah, their tutorial is broken, they mixed monochrome and colour displays :!
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12:30:04  <Wolf01> so for 8bpp what must be, just 160*43 with truncated headers?
12:30:43  <_dp_> yeah, ofc
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12:34:24  <Wolf01> using the sizes for monochrome display throws exception
12:34:33  <Wolf01> this is a kind of sorcery
12:34:49  <Hiddenfunstuff> java
12:36:35  <_dp_> did you manage to send at least something to it? array of zeros or whatever garbage
12:38:41  <Wolf01> yes, now that i fixed the tutorial it works with a pattern, but i get garbage with the image
12:39:21  <_dp_> so, it expects 160*43*4, right?
12:39:32  <Wolf01> no, just 160*43
12:40:16  <Wolf01> the image is upside down and a little broken, maybe i calculated the wrong header size
12:40:30  <_dp_> hm, I though you got exception with that
12:40:40  <Wolf01> also i can load the 24bpp one
12:40:57  <Wolf01> but just one piece :P
12:42:12  <_dp_> upside down is probably coz of bmp, I vaguely remeber it being stored upside-down
12:42:22  <_dp_> you can flip it before saving)
12:43:57  <_dp_> and for being broken check header size and esure that you're reading it as a binary file (text does extra stuff for newlines)
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13:08:04  <Wolf01> got to go now, maybe later i'll give it another try
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13:54:32  <George> Hi. Something wrong with CF
13:54:35  <George> https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/1129/
13:54:48  <George> 13:34:34 $ hg clone --rev default --noupdate http://hg.openttdcoop.org/xussrset /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/xussrset/workspace
13:54:48  <George> 13:34:34 abort: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
13:54:48  <George> 13:34:34 ERROR: Failed to clone http://hg.openttdcoop.org/xussrset
13:54:48  <George> 13:34:34 ERROR: Failed to clone http://hg.openttdcoop.org/xussrset
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14:19:11  <peter1138> Not CF, hg...
14:19:17  <peter1138> Oh he left.
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18:02:54  <andythenorth> o/
18:05:23  <fjb> Moin
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19:06:30  <andythenorth> absence of cat comments
19:06:46  <andythenorth> also forums quiet
19:06:46  <V453000> .
19:06:51  <andythenorth> is V453000 :D
19:06:56  <V453000> is
19:06:59  <andythenorth> or lies
19:07:04  * andythenorth counts the 0s
19:07:13  <V453000> them be correct
19:07:14  *** andythenorth is now known as V45301
19:07:21  * V45301 agrees
19:07:23  <V453000> g
19:07:26  <V45301> wrong 0s
19:07:31  * V45301 needs glasses
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19:09:58  <V453000> what you up to andythesouth000
19:10:08  <andythenorth> is Hog
19:10:12  <andythenorth> also actual work
19:10:22  <V453000> hm :)
19:10:24  <andythenorth> also, no FIRS 2 until next year
19:10:28  <andythenorth> lots of time to delete stuff...
19:10:30  <V453000> XD
19:13:35  <andythenorth> is factorio done yet?
19:13:36  <andythenorth> o_O
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19:26:07  <V453000> there are tons of things to do, but the current version is very good
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19:30:59  <andythenorth> V453000: do they pay you? o_O
19:31:01  * andythenorth assumes they do
19:31:09  <V453000> yes
19:31:11  <V453000> full time job
19:31:24  <V453000> + hobby so 2 time job ;)
19:31:46  <andythenorth> better graphics -> more people buy it
19:31:51  <andythenorth> everyone happy
19:31:52  <V453000> yay
19:32:24  <V453000> it is awesome, I have probably never been happier in my life
19:32:43  <andythenorth> nice
19:32:54  <andythenorth> I don’t know of anything more fun than making and selling a product
19:33:04  <andythenorth> well, nothing that lasts for a long time anyway
19:35:39  <V453000> what do you mean?
19:36:17  <andythenorth> exactly what I said :P
19:36:42  <V453000>  /me dumb
19:36:48  <Eddi|zuHause> that sentence did really not make a lot of sense...
19:36:56  <andythenorth> ach
19:37:03  <V453000> XD
19:37:07  <V453000> thanks Eddi
19:37:13  <andythenorth> lost in translation :(
19:38:28  <andythenorth> I have never had more sustained fun than crafting something that people buy
19:38:41  <andythenorth> you make it better, customers/buyers/players etc like it
19:38:49  <andythenorth> virtuous circle
19:38:51  <V453000> that I understood
19:39:00  <V453000> but what did you mean with the nothing that lasts a long time
19:39:05  <andythenorth> there are other things that are more fun, but they don’t last
19:39:12  <andythenorth> like drinking a lot and dancing
19:39:17  <andythenorth> it’s more fun than making a product
19:39:22  <andythenorth> but not for a long time
19:39:36  <V453000> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
19:39:45  <V453000> YES.
19:39:46  <V453000> :D
19:39:54  <andythenorth> riding a bike down a mountain is more fun
19:39:58  <V453000> understanding has been reached, even your former sentence makes perfect sense now
19:39:58  <andythenorth> but I’d sooner make product
19:40:13  <andythenorth> even though making product is also ridiculously painful a lot of the time
19:40:20  <andythenorth> so much has to be made and then destroyed
19:40:28  <V453000> yay.
19:45:40  <V453000> currently making some smoke simulation so destruction is very much in place
19:56:06  <andythenorth> hmm
19:56:17  <andythenorth> Rainfall Rivers Generator seems to need me to apply a queue
19:56:19  <andythenorth> urgh
19:56:31  <V453000> wtf is that
19:56:51  <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=71970&start=120&sid=b10207a1c8db95ce8f612d9315691f97
19:57:05  <andythenorth> I want to try it, but eh faff
19:57:20  <V453000> tldr version?
19:57:27  <andythenorth> better rivers
19:57:30  <andythenorth> can’t build the patch though
19:57:34  <andythenorth> or can’t be arse
19:57:36  <andythenorth> d
19:58:02  <V453000> dd
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20:20:25  <andythenorth> is to bed
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20:53:52  <Wolf01> ahhhh, back to my bitmap problems
20:58:50  <Wolf01> i think the solution is not to use bitmaps
20:59:27  <frosch123> use tape
20:59:41  <frosch123> tape over the display, and forget that it exists
21:00:07  <frosch123> oh, andy is already gone :)
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21:07:10  <Eddi|zuHause> andy is always already gone
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21:17:23  <Wolf01> this time i'll try to use a lot of domain driven design
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21:37:25  <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like a useless buzzword
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21:40:51  <Wolf01> and here comes my weakness... the lack of math exercise
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22:08:42  <Eddi|zuHause> so, who was that?
22:08:45  <Wolf01> bad server is bad
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22:12:55  <Wolf01> ooooh it prints the symbol... or at least it tries
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22:17:27  <Wolf01> it tries because i swapped width and height of the matrix
22:17:34  <Wolf01> now it does it :)
22:18:05  <Wolf01> and now... print position and symbol offset
22:19:18  <Wolf01> the first one was easy
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22:41:49  <Wolf01> ok, now i have a little framework to print stuff on a matrix display, the next step is to write the symbols for what i need
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23:58:04  <Wolf01> 'night
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