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00:06:45 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:48:44 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 00:50:49 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:17:48 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:17:51 *** mescalito [~mescalito@251-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:18:43 *** mescalito [~mescalito@251-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 01:30:25 <AdmiralKew> So, one of the GRFs I've downloaded somehow gives me a monthly ship running cost even though I haven't had any ships yet 01:36:37 <AdmiralKew> Not sure if it's HEQS, Iron Horse, eGRVTS or OpenGFX+ Vehicles 01:41:58 *** Sirenia [~sirenia@454028b1.test.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:52:56 <Eddi|zuHause> it sounds really unlikely that is the reason 01:53:13 <AdmiralKew> Could also be FISH 01:54:13 <Eddi|zuHause> well, that one definitely has ships in it 01:56:55 <AdmiralKew> Not FISH 01:57:16 <AdmiralKew> The ship upkeep thing is gone 01:57:20 *** mescalito [~mescalito@251-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:57:27 <AdmiralKew> but now I'm dealing with a negative ship income 02:00:19 *** mescalito [~mescalito@251-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 02:04:47 <AdmiralKew> Huh 02:04:55 <AdmiralKew> It's something regarding ECS 02:05:48 <AdmiralKew> Could be ECSext 02:06:44 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@68-116-139-65.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:13:23 *** mescalito [~mescalito@251-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:14:52 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 02:14:52 *** KouDy_ [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:21:25 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:21:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 02:22:28 *** mescalito 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andythenorth is now known as Guest2944 07:54:09 *** Guest2944 [~Andy@host81-153-66-223.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:03:57 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:12:38 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:47:33 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:54:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:59:21 *** dpk [~dpk@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:13:14 *** dpk [~dpk@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has joined #openttd 09:25:13 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:32:15 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.145.75.70] has joined #openttd 09:35:29 *** AdmiralKewl [~pcc31@49.145.75.70] has joined #openttd 09:36:45 <AdmiralKewl> http://puu.sh/n1nbP/1cc7336e90.png 09:36:55 <AdmiralKewl> Should I have merged the bus stop and the dock? 09:39:18 <Alberth> looks like it 09:39:23 *** glevans2 [~glevans21@68-116-139-65.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:39:45 <Alberth> passengers are extremely lazy, they don't walk :p 09:40:34 <AdmiralKewl> Passengers that are meant for the dock go onto the bus stop instead though 09:41:58 *** glevans2 [~glevans21@68-116-139-65.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #openttd 09:44:51 <AdmiralKewl> I also really wish you could specify a minimum/maximum load for vehicles at a certain station 09:45:26 <Milek7> minimum? 09:46:05 <AdmiralKewl> Say: Train 1 has to be at least 50% full before it can leave the station 09:47:40 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:54:26 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:19 <AdmiralKewl> http://ttdpatch.de/download.html 09:56:31 <AdmiralKewl> Is DBSet XL here compatible with oTTD? 09:59:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:00:04 <peter1138> does the download page mention openttd? 10:04:03 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host245-3-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:04:48 <Wolf01> o/ 10:05:05 <AdmiralKewl> Apparently not 10:05:10 <AdmiralKewl> Hi Wolf 10:05:30 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:07:52 <peter1138> are you sure? 10:14:43 <Wolf01> he's right, it doesn't, it says OpenTTD not oTTD ;) 10:18:59 <Alberth> o/ 10:21:56 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:23:45 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:24:06 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 10:24:27 <Wolf01> uhm, it seem that 2 trains shared the same space in Germany 10:24:41 <M-E> Oh dear. did they do so violently? 10:25:00 <Wolf01> apparently 10:29:52 <Wolf01> as always, newspapers don't agree... 40 injuried + 8 dead, 100 injuried + 2 dead 10:31:54 <Alberth> time of going to print differs :) 10:40:17 <Clockworker__> sounds awful 10:40:58 <Clockworker__> oh jesus 10:41:01 <Clockworker__> head-on 10:41:10 <Clockworker__> it's on CNNs frontpage even 10:46:30 <V453000> sup yo 10:47:48 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:54:29 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:26:44 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:26:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 11:27:55 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@2001:41d0:1:f924::1] has quit [Quit: quit] 11:33:06 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@2001:41d0:1:f924::1] has joined #openttd 11:33:25 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:33:41 *** FR^2 is now known as Guest2961 11:34:23 *** Guest2961 is now known as FR^2 11:47:54 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:54:38 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:35 *** glevans2 [~glevans21@68-116-139-65.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:56 *** glevans2 [~glevans21@68-116-139-65.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #openttd 12:05:28 <Wolf01> http://news.slashdot.org/story/16/02/09/0545208/are-roads-safer-with-no-central-white-lines 12:05:46 <Wolf01> I'll drive in the middle of the road :P 12:07:54 <Wolf01> also, I use the central line to keep the road with the fog, as usually the lateral lines are covered with leaves and dirt here... so with no central line I'll align with a tree for sure 12:09:22 <Alberth> no discussions about white versus yellow lines? 12:11:50 <argoneus> white master race 12:13:00 <Alberth> please leave your racism at home 12:13:12 <argoneus> im not even racist :( 12:14:28 <Flygon> Flygon Master Race 12:14:37 <Flygon> We sexy, we curvy, we fly :3 12:14:42 <Flygon> Tho 12:14:53 <Flygon> Sexy only applies if the other people looking are also Flygons 12:14:54 <Flygon> :B:B 12:17:40 <Wolf01> Glalie, I chose you! 12:18:33 <Wolf01> Glalie uses blizzard, Flygon is fucked 12:18:45 <Flygon> That's what she said :# 12:18:47 <Flygon> :3* 12:18:53 <Wolf01> ahaha 12:32:05 <AdmiralKewl> Is there a mod to increase just the size of the text? 12:32:29 <AdmiralKewl> my eyes are bad, and the 2x UI size in the option makes everything too big 12:34:23 <Alberth> https://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#My_User_Interface_is_too_small_to_read_.2F_My_font_is_unreadable_or_faulty 12:41:07 <V453000> nice, managing to get accused of racism argoneus :P 12:43:39 <argoneus> V453000: it keeps happening 12:46:48 *** AdmiralKew_ [~pcc31@49.145.75.70] has joined #openttd 12:48:01 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:50:12 <V453000> the "civilized world" is making me sad 12:50:38 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:56 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 12:52:00 <Flygon> The world is racist against me, clearly 12:52:16 *** AdmiralKewl [~pcc31@49.145.75.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:16 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.145.75.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:43 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:30 <AdmiralKew_> Well, Formula One is way better then NASCAR #race_discrimination 13:03:53 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:04:41 <V453000> you step on the gas in both? :P 13:06:34 <argoneus> Flygon I think your people are not sexy at all 13:06:36 <argoneus> sorry.. 13:06:44 <Flygon> You hate Australians? D: 13:06:50 <V453000> I learned to ignore most things Flygon says 13:07:27 <Flygon> He's still bitter over the non-weaving cloverleaf 13:07:40 <V453000> that is the last thing tbh 13:07:49 <Flygon> ??? 13:08:03 <Flygon> If I've genuinely upset you, I'm willing to correct myself 13:08:10 <argoneus> did you steal his four leaf clover 13:08:13 <argoneus> or what 13:08:16 <V453000> no, not at all, nothing personal 13:08:38 <V453000> vast majority of the stuff you say makes no sense to me, just that 13:09:53 <Flygon> Ooh... 13:09:54 <Flygon> Well 13:09:57 <Flygon> If I ever do upset you 13:10:04 <Flygon> Please make it obvious >_< 13:10:12 <Flygon> I have very poor perception of other's feelings 13:10:30 <Flygon> argoneus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/openttdnoweavingcloverleaf.png 13:10:48 <V453000> upsetting me is considerably hard 13:12:13 <Flygon> Yes, but I tend to be blind to even considerably 13:13:35 *** AdmiralKewl [~pcc31@49.145.75.70] has joined #openttd 13:20:36 *** AdmiralKew_ [~pcc31@49.145.75.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:28:15 *** AdmiralKewl [~pcc31@49.145.75.70] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30:39 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:48:08 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:54:00 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 13:54:51 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:15 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 14:48:16 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:55:01 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:07:05 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 15:30:50 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d082e66.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:38:28 *** ghost64 [~ghost64@corrigan.xyz] has joined #openttd 15:42:23 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 15:42:34 *** Lokimaros [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:55:56 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-137-117-57.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:01:20 <andythenorth> o/ 16:03:34 <Wolf01> o/ 16:04:06 * andythenorth needs to start a new Lego forum 16:04:33 <Wolf01> ok, you have my attention now 16:04:40 <andythenorth> nah 16:04:45 <andythenorth> just annoyed with EB posters 16:04:48 <andythenorth> they are silly bunnies 16:05:02 <Wolf01> the story "lego will sue you"? 16:05:12 <andythenorth> didnât even see that :) 16:05:31 <Wolf01> the porsche thread, about the mocs of the various parts 16:06:52 <andythenorth> ha 16:07:02 <andythenorth> I have up reading before that 16:07:13 <andythenorth> âomg, I canât believe we have to wait until August for these" 16:07:22 <andythenorth> âYes, I know. Thatâs nearly half a year!â 16:07:54 <andythenorth> I wonder if they have to use the picture guides to tell a 13 stud beam from a 15 stud beam 16:08:06 <andythenorth> or if they can count 16:08:36 <andythenorth> also the guy whoâs life just wonât be complete until thereâs a 1H/2H flagship wheel excavator 16:14:00 *** srhnsn [~srhnsn@p2003006A6C0EC300394B540FB2448952.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:14:15 *** Dumarest [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:16:14 <Wolf01> btw, what set should I purchase with a 35% discount? 16:18:07 *** Lokimaros [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:18:30 <Eddi|zuHause> why does the price even matter? either you're poor enough so you shouldn't buy any at all, or you're rich enough that you can buy all of them... there's nothing inbetween anymore 16:18:37 *** Lokimaros [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:18:47 *** Lokimaros [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 16:20:08 <Dumarest> And anything you buy you'll see for half what you paid the next day. 16:23:22 *** _johannes [~johannes@port-92-203-226-67.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:29:19 *** Dumarest [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:31:16 <andythenorth> Wolf01: whatâs left? You have everything good, no? 16:31:22 <Wolf01> yeah 16:31:26 <Wolf01> that's the matter 16:31:48 <andythenorth> :) 16:32:30 <Wolf01> I must pick a duplicate... If only the summer sets were spring sets :P 16:32:59 <Wolf01> maybe I'll buy another mercedes arocs 16:34:05 <andythenorth> buy the arocs 16:34:12 <andythenorth> build the tractor unit 16:34:16 <andythenorth> put the rest in the parts bin 16:34:25 <Wolf01> yeah 16:34:34 <andythenorth> new pumps, some spare tyres 16:38:25 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:46:51 <Wolf01> I have... 12? spare tyres (the 42009 crane) 16:48:02 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest2995 16:48:03 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 16:50:07 <andythenorth> Wolf01: in that case http://media.daimler.com/dcmedia/351-921-614341-1-1852202-1-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-3842-@aj.a1.s110167@ac.clink103928_3842-0-0-0-0.html 16:50:11 <andythenorth> 10x6 16:50:26 *** Guest2995 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:28 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:50:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:50:29 <andythenorth> or http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/mercedes-benz-arocs-now-available-with-five-glorious-axles_2.jpg 16:51:02 <Wolf01> nice 16:51:45 <V453000> oh RV porn 16:53:06 <andythenorth> 12 axle actros? http://www.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/mercedes-actros-concrete-pumps 16:53:58 <V453000> I thought 1 axle = set of 2 wheels? 16:54:26 <andythenorth> youâre right 16:54:30 <andythenorth> 6 axles actros 16:54:34 <andythenorth> 14x6 http://www.ditzj.de/fora/buzzy/bauma2013/D90_36422.jpg 16:55:38 <andythenorth> tbh, big technic models are boring to build 16:57:01 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:21 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:09:14 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:28:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19720.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:35:41 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:07 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f049110229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:40:43 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:43 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:45:43 *** zeknurn` is now known as zeknurn 17:49:34 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:49:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:04:20 <andythenorth> so why donât most of you compile OpenTTD in a VM? 18:04:23 * andythenorth is curious 18:04:33 <andythenorth> in fact, why would you ever compile anything on your host OS? 18:04:40 <andythenorth> (from 3rd parties) 18:05:04 <Mazur> Who's compiling? 18:05:20 <Mazur> oh, different conversation. 18:05:29 <Mazur> Never mind. 18:07:08 <Milek7> andythenorth: security paranoia? 18:08:15 <Mazur> Would that not be called insecurity paranoia? 18:12:41 <andythenorth> dunno 18:12:57 <andythenorth> I can trivially grab the contents of your .ssh and send them to a remote url 18:13:03 <andythenorth> is that good? 18:13:27 <Milek7> how? 18:14:24 <andythenorth> depends who you are, but if you ever compile my newgrfs⊠18:15:12 <andythenorth> itâs also probably quite easy to get escalated privileges on devzone, by social engineering it if nothing else 18:16:18 <Milek7> it is based on trusting other people 18:17:11 <Milek7> but ok, if i would ever need to compile your newgrf i will do it from separate user ;P 18:17:41 <andythenorth> it doesnât require evil, only a lack of competence 18:17:55 <andythenorth> and the more I read, the more I am convinced that lack of competence is widely distributed 18:25:03 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:29:06 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 18:33:38 * Mazur is not distributing, he is keeping his incompetence all to himself. 18:34:13 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 18:42:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6D7D4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:45:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6C010.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:49:08 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.145.75.70] has joined #openttd 18:49:21 <AdmiralKew> http://puu.sh/n1MXj/7c3e13b65c.png 18:49:22 <AdmiralKew> okay lol 18:51:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6D7D4.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:35 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:05:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d00be69.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 19:07:46 <_johannes> currently, is there only the cargo possible described in cargo_type.h ? 19:08:03 <_johannes> are there no extensions for other cargo types? 19:08:27 <_johannes> (this file describes only temperate, arctic, tropic and toyland) 19:09:47 <Alberth> it lists the default cargoes 19:10:01 <Alberth> newgrfs can also define cargoes 19:10:24 <Alberth> not sure what "type" means here 19:11:20 <_johannes> ah, FOR_ALL_CARGOSPECS seems to list all type of cargo 19:12:52 <Alberth> with some isvalid check 19:14:07 <_johannes> ah, many thanks. 19:18:02 <Alberth> cargo chain window should pull cargoes from the high hat too, maybe you want to check how that works 19:36:32 <frosch123> andythenorth: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/ptbenxagl?/ptbenxagl <- that seems to restore savegame compatibility 19:36:50 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest3016 19:37:58 <_johannes> Alberth: do you know how the cargo chain window is named? 19:38:32 <Alberth> CargoChain something? 19:39:30 <andythenorth> frosch123: nicely done thanks 19:39:35 <_johannes> no, grep -i did not find "cargo.*chain" 19:39:43 * andythenorth didnât test, getting children to sleep 19:40:02 <Alberth> IndustryCargoesWindow : public Window industry_gui.cpp 2045 19:40:35 <Alberth> _johannes: ^ 19:41:33 <_johannes> Alberth: oh, I though it would be in the widgets directory 19:41:59 <Alberth> widgets only contains widgets (ie the small elements at a window) 19:42:13 <Alberth> *_gui files contain the GUI windows 19:42:48 <Alberth> *_cmd files the commands 19:43:19 <_johannes> ah, ok 19:44:42 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45:03 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:48:12 <_johannes> this is really too complicated :/ 19:48:20 <Alberth> hmm, widgets is just widget numbers :p 19:48:34 <_johannes> I mean, these cargo strings 19:49:02 <_johannes> I just wanted to get a map of (cargo id, cargo name) of the current game 19:49:14 <Alberth> the price for having 42 different translations :) 19:49:21 <_johannes> GetString(suffix, GetGRFStringID(indspec->grf_prop.grffile->grfid, 0xD000 + callback), suffix_last); 19:49:40 <_johannes> Not sure if that does it 19:50:12 <_johannes> I was hoping for something like SetDParam(0, carg->Index()); GetString(buf, STR_CARGO_PLURAL, lastof(buf)); but STR_CARGO_PLURAL does not exist 19:50:29 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:52:13 <_johannes> can someone please hel me how to get this map? 19:52:16 <_johannes> *help 19:52:30 <frosch123> use STR_JUST_CARGO_LIST 19:52:48 <frosch123> with SetDParam(0, 1 << cargoid) 19:54:22 <_johannes> frosch123: how did you know? 19:54:43 <frosch123> i had wrote a gamescript some years ago 19:54:46 <frosch123> which needed the same 19:55:26 <frosch123> anyway, the approach is: check the string codes, figure out which you need, then check whether there is already a matching string 19:55:53 <andythenorth> done a bit more on this https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7627/chemical_plant_3.png 19:55:54 <_johannes> but the "1 <<" ... :D 19:56:00 <frosch123> cargos do not just have names, they have singular and plural forms for specific amounts, and other forms for arbitrary amounds 19:56:05 <andythenorth> now I just need a big run of pipes in the air 19:57:17 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:58:07 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01:01 <Alberth> _johannes: the parameters is a 32bitset which cargos to print in the list 20:01:47 <Alberth> ie find a spot where that string is used :) 20:02:07 <_johannes> haha 20:05:32 <Alberth> things are designed from required use rather than from the concept itself 20:06:06 <Alberth> also, it's assembly, converted to C, converted to C++ -ish 20:06:15 <Alberth> still lots of C-isms 20:06:41 <Alberth> but good performance :) 20:07:27 <_johannes> lol what? 20:07:38 <_johannes> this was originally assembler code? 20:08:08 <frosch123> not all of if 20:08:08 <_johannes> you're kidding now :P 20:08:10 <frosch123> about 30% 20:08:29 <_johannes> the one from tt deluxe? 20:09:14 <frosch123> https://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD#History_of_Transport_Tycoon 20:10:13 <Alberth> btw "assembly" is the language, "assembler" is the program that converts such files to machine language 20:13:57 <_johannes> was the reverse-engineering and using the resulting C code legalised? 20:16:15 <_johannes> I mean if you'd do this with the windows binaries, you'd probably get into prison... 20:18:48 <frosch123> the ownership is unknown, and there is not sufficient financial interest to figure it out 20:18:58 <frosch123> search the forums if you want to know more 20:29:48 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:35:12 <andythenorth> can a mod stop this guy derailing GarryGâs thread? :) http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1163958#p1163958 20:35:40 <Alberth> andythenorth: use the "!" button 20:35:52 <andythenorth> oh thatâs what that means :) 20:35:55 * andythenorth tries it 20:47:54 *** Wormnest__ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 20:49:44 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:54:52 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:58 *** _johannes [~johannes@port-92-203-226-67.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:20 *** srhnsn [~srhnsn@p2003006A6C0EC300394B540FB2448952.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: srhnsn] 21:06:57 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d00be69.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:11:15 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:16:47 *** Guest3016 [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 21:18:10 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 21:29:07 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 21:36:38 <Quatroking> is it possible to group multiple vehicles at once 21:37:20 *** Clockworker_ [~Clockwork@189-72-25-164.paemt701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 21:37:50 <andythenorth> hold ctrl while dragging 21:37:58 <andythenorth> winning feature, only just found it myself :) 21:38:10 <andythenorth> ctrl-drag will also make a new group if needed 21:40:26 <Quatroking> holy hell 21:40:28 <Quatroking> thanks 21:40:49 <Quatroking> this is going to save me so much time 21:41:24 <FLHerne> Quatroking: Alternatively, 'add shared vehicles' in an existig group 21:41:49 <FLHerne> Is handy if you've created more vehicles since you grouped them initially 21:42:20 <Quatroking> Thanks again, haven't seen that option before 21:42:34 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7628/chemical_plant_4.png 21:42:42 <andythenorth> V453000: criticisms? ^ 21:42:52 <andythenorth> also http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/entry/src/graphics/industries/chemical_plant_1.png 21:42:56 <andythenorth> not done yet 21:42:57 <andythenorth> but eh 21:43:08 <Quatroking> Is it normal for a city of 2564 citizens to have 3800 passengers waiting at their busstops 21:43:21 <andythenorth> if you have cdist on yes 21:43:23 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 21:43:29 <Quatroking> cdist? 21:43:31 <Eddi|zuHause> even without cdist 21:44:05 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a33e:4100:5055:267d:a1f8:a0cc] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:45:06 *** Clockworker__ [~Clockwork@189-72-25-164.paemt701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:08 <Quatroking> here's another question: can I change the wait time on multiple stops of one vehicle 21:46:14 <Quatroking> for example, set all stops to a 4 day wait 21:54:54 <FLHerne> Quatroking: Treat populations as being measured in the hundreds or something - like everything else in OTTD, the sizes of different things are ridiculous when you compare them... 21:55:56 * andythenorth must to bed 21:55:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-137-117-57.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 21:56:22 <FLHerne> An articulated bus is longer than an office building, and the train you're taking them to might carry more people than the entire city. So why shouldn't they wait? :P 21:56:52 <Quatroking> good point lol 21:57:56 <Quatroking> Going from city A to B takes a good 20 days, building statues of yourself, etc. 21:58:21 <Quatroking> I don't think there are any cities with statues of transportation CEO's 21:58:25 <Quatroking> other than pyongyang 22:02:19 <Eddi|zuHause> if it were up to me, statues would be replaced by local travel office or something like that 22:03:00 <Quatroking> Do statues add anything other than vanity? 22:03:53 <Eddi|zuHause> increase all station ratings by 10% 22:04:18 <Eddi|zuHause> (around this town) 22:04:52 <Quatroking> oh neat 22:04:59 *** Wormnest__ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:05:45 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@50-37-95-240.mscw.id.frontiernet.net] has joined #openttd 22:05:56 <Eddi|zuHause> also, you can't decide where to put them and they can't be moved or removed later on, royally screwing with your restructuring and expanding plans 22:09:27 *** Eearslya [~irssi@sleiarion.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:20:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19720.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33:08 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f049110229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 22:43:55 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d082e66.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 22:59:55 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 23:00:12 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:22:23 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:07 *** SpBot [spbot@109.204.237.153] has joined #openttd 23:38:42 *** You're now known as Guest3054 23:39:17 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 23:41:35 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 23:42:11 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:38 <Wolf01> 'night 23:49:41 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:57:42 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@50-37-95-240.mscw.id.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes]